Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Thomas Evangelidis
You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.

0-20ns
0-30ns
0-40ns
...
0-100ns

Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that account
for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system has
equilibrated enough.

Thomas


On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:

> Dear users,
>
> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last 100
> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results were
> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten principal
> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal components
> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from the
> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation has
> reached convergence?
>
> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
>  1 0.00685769
>  2 0.137028
>  3 0.00139929
>  4 0.00903137
>  5 0.0180072
>  6 0.0128686
>  7 0.00154502
>  8 9.71793e-05
>  9 0.00485945
>  10 0.00202377
>
> Thanks in advance
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Thomas,

As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
equilibrium.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis  wrote:
> You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
> beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
>
> 0-20ns
> 0-30ns
> 0-40ns
> ...
> 0-100ns
>
> Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that account
> for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
> least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system has
> equilibrated enough.
>
> Thomas
>
>
> On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
>
>> Dear users,
>>
>> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
>> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last 100
>> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results were
>> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten principal
>> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal components
>> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from the
>> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation has
>> reached convergence?
>>
>> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
>>  1 0.00685769
>>  2 0.137028
>>  3 0.00139929
>>  4 0.00903137
>>  5 0.0180072
>>  6 0.0128686
>>  7 0.00154502
>>  8 9.71793e-05
>>  9 0.00485945
>>  10 0.00202377
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>> --
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>
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> University of Athens
> Faculty of Pharmacy
> Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> Panepistimioupoli-Zografou
> 157 71 Athens
> GREECE
>
> email: tev...@pharm.uoa.gr
>
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AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current

2013-02-25 Thread Florian Dommert
Hi,

 Which version of gromacs are you using. I am applying this tool also to ILs
and it works fine for me in the release-4-5 branch. It is especially strange
that you have a rotational dipole moment of zero. However, currently I have
no idea where the segfault arises. Especially because you get an output. So
what version you are using?

Cheers,
Flo

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 00:05
> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> Betreff: Re: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My system is ionic liquids composed of 128 cation (EMIM) and 128 anion
(ethyl
> sulfate). I choose system (0) as index group.
> 
> Nilesh
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >  Can you be a little bit more specific about your system, and what you
> > have chosen as index groups ?
> >
> > /Flo
> >
> > ---
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> > Dipl. Phys.
> >
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> > Universität Stuttgart
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> > D-70569 Stuttgart
> >
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> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2013 16:17
> >> An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> >> Betreff: [gmx-users] g_current
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am calculating the correlation of the rotational and translational
> > dipole
> >> moment of the system using g_current.
> >>
> >> I used following command
> >>
> >> g_current -f md.trr -s md.tpr –mc
> >>
> >> It crashed with segmental fault.
> >> Last frame  15000 time 3.002
> >> Prefactor fit E-H: 1 / 6.0*V*k_B*T: 2.45747e-11
> >>
> >>
> >> Average translational dipole moment M_J [enm] after 15001 frames
> >> (|M|^2):
> >> -0.00 -0.00 -0.00 (0.00)
> >>
> >>
> >> Average molecular dipole moment M_D [enm] after 15001 frames (|M|^2):
> >> -7.281919 17.954138 5.845435 (490.493744)
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Absolute values:
> >>  epsilon=2723.718750
> >>   , , <(M_J*M_D)^2>:  (490.493744, 0.00, -0.03)
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Fluctuations:
> >>  epsilon=450.336090
> >>
> >>
> >>  deltaM_D , deltaM_J, deltaM_JD:  (80.947235, 0.00, 0.00)
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Static dielectric constant using integral and fluctuations:
> >> 450.336090
> >>
> >>  < M_JM_D > via integral:  -0.000
> >>
> >> ***
> >>
> >> Average volume V=42.031509 nm^3 at T=300.00 K and corresponding
> >> refactor 1.0 / 3.0*V*k_B*T*EPSILON_0: 5.550975
> >>
> >> Start fit at 98.08 ps (100.00).
> >> End fit at 398.31 ps (400.00).
> >>
> >> Einstein-Helfand fit to the MSD of the translational dipole moment
> >> yields:
> >>
> >> sigma=0.
> >> translational fraction of M^2: 0. Dielectric constant using EH:
> >> 2723.7188 Segmentation fault
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you whats the problem?
> >>
> >> Nilesh
> >>
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[gmx-users] request

2013-02-25 Thread Group Gro



Dear Gromacs Users.


I apologize for asking a question that has come up several times by numerous 
users in the previous e-mails, but I have read the answers and suggestions to 
those posts and I am not still able to solve the problem based on them. It is 
completely possible that I am just not seeing the obvious, so I apologize, but 
I would welcome any advice. I want to work on "Human Glutathione Peroxidase" 
and downloaded its pdb file, but when I try pdb2gmx, I face Fatal Error:

Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5 
Source code file:
/build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.5/src/kernel/pgutil.c, line: 91 
Fatal error: 
Atom CD is used in an interaction of
type atom in the topology 
database, but an atom of that name was
not found in residue 
number 50. 


I tried different force fields, for example OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field, 
different versions of AMBERs, but I
always get the same problem! When I tried GROMOS's versions, the problem goes 
on CZ atom instead of CD. Here is a chunk of my pdb file (I have also attached 
the full pdb file to this e-mail):

SHEET    6   A 1 PHE A 183  PRO A190  0
SHEET    7   A 1 GLY A 192  HIS A200  0
MODEL
ATOM  1    N GLY A  38  -4.242  -9.833 -26.316  1.00  0.00   N  
ATOM  2   CA GLY A  38  -3.416 -10.949 -25.765  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM  3    C GLY A  38  -1.953 -10.570 -25.632  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM  4    O GLY A  38  -1.069
 -11.266 -26.159  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM  5    N THR A  39  -1.673  -9.461 -24.940  1.00  0.00   N  
ATOM  6   CA THR A  39  -0.286  -9.039 -24.705  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM  7    C THR A  39  -0.073  -8.722 -23.214  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM  8    O THR A  39  -1.035  -8.559 -22.442  1.00 
 0.00   O  
ATOM  9   CB THR A  39   0.124  -7.784 -25.533  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM 10  OG1 THR A  39  -0.415  -6.602 -24.926  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM 11  CG2 THR A  39  -0.309  -7.882 -27.037  1.00  0.00   C  
…..
ATOM 91  OD1 ASP A  49  10.106   1.841  -5.471  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM 92  OD2 ASP A  49  12.010   2.918  -5.273  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM 93    N GLY A   50   8.192   0.495  -3.643  1.00  0.00   N 
 
ATOM 94   CA GLY A   50   6.805   0.919  -3.449  1.00  0.00   C 
 
ATOM 95    C GLY A   50   6.525   2.278  -4.054  1.00  0.00   C 
 
ATOM
 96    O GLY A   50   5.449   2.818  -3.864  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM 97    N GLU A   51   7.471   2.832  -4.802  1.00  0.00   N 
 
ATOM 98   CA GLU A   51   7.351   4.238  -5.211  1.00  0.00   C 
 
ATOM 99    C GLU A    51   6.737   4.438  -6.592  1.00  0.00   
C  
ATOM    100    O GLU A
   51   6.291   5.522  -6.897  1.00  0.00   O  
ATOM    101   CB GLU A  51   8.713   4.941  -5.174  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM    102   CG GLU A  51   9.283   5.140  -3.759  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM    103   CD GLU A  51   8.612   6.301  -3.006  1.00  0.00   C  
ATOM    104    N GLU A   52   6.729  
 3.418  -7.432  1.00  0.00   N  
…. 
ATOM    3035    OH TYR  A   228  -9.320
-43.377 -52.577  1.00  0.00   O 
TER3036  TYR A 228 
ENDMDL 
HETATM 3037   CL  CL 11000 -16.070
-39.525  -6.168  1.00  0.00  CL 
HETATM 3038   NA  NA 11001  -1.679
-34.065  -0.491  1.00  0.00  NA 
CONECT  996 1519 
CONECT 1021 1519 
CONECT 1519  996 1021 
END

I know that the residue number printed
by pdb2gmx is actually starting from zero, so the problem is actually in GLU.
In both rtp file and pdb I have CD atom. Some suggestions wanted to
change the order of C and O in pdb file, but it didn't work. What should I do?
Thanks a lot.
Groupgro.
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Thomas Evangelidis
On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
>
> As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
> inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
> in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
> relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
>

Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape, and
exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this is
what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the way I
use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
"relaxation.


> equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
> If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
> equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
> of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
> take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
> reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
> equilibrium.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tsjerk
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis 
> wrote:
> > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
> > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
> >
> > 0-20ns
> > 0-30ns
> > 0-40ns
> > ...
> > 0-100ns
> >
> > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that account
> > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
> > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system
> has
> > equilibrated enough.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
> >
> >> Dear users,
> >>
> >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
> >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last
> 100
> >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results were
> >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
> principal
> >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
> components
> >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from
> the
> >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation
> has
> >> reached convergence?
> >>
> >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
> >>  1 0.00685769
> >>  2 0.137028
> >>  3 0.00139929
> >>  4 0.00903137
> >>  5 0.0180072
> >>  6 0.0128686
> >>  7 0.00154502
> >>  8 9.71793e-05
> >>  9 0.00485945
> >>  10 0.00202377
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance
> >> --
> >> Ahmet Yıldırım
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> >
> >
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> >
> > Thomas Evangelidis
> >
> > PhD student
> > University of Athens
> > Faculty of Pharmacy
> > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> > Panepistimioupoli-Zografou
> > 157 71 Athens
> > GREECE
> >
> > email: tev...@pharm.uoa.gr
> >
> >   teva...@gmail.com
> >
> >
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Ahmet yıldırım
Hi,

I think my question was misunderstood.
My question is:
Why is second cosine content greater than the other values?

Regards

2013/2/25 Thomas Evangelidis 

> On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:
>
> > Hi Thomas,
> >
> > As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
> > inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
> > in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
> > relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
> >
>
> Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
> unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape, and
> exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this is
> what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
> from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the way I
> use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
> presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
> helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
> "relaxation.
>
>
> > equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
> > If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
> > equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
> > of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
> > take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
> > reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
> > equilibrium.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Tsjerk
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis 
> > wrote:
> > > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
> > > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
> > >
> > > 0-20ns
> > > 0-30ns
> > > 0-40ns
> > > ...
> > > 0-100ns
> > >
> > > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that
> account
> > > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
> > > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system
> > has
> > > equilibrated enough.
> > >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear users,
> > >>
> > >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
> > >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last
> > 100
> > >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results
> were
> > >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
> > principal
> > >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
> > components
> > >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from
> > the
> > >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation
> > has
> > >> reached convergence?
> > >>
> > >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
> > >>  1 0.00685769
> > >>  2 0.137028
> > >>  3 0.00139929
> > >>  4 0.00903137
> > >>  5 0.0180072
> > >>  6 0.0128686
> > >>  7 0.00154502
> > >>  8 9.71793e-05
> > >>  9 0.00485945
> > >>  10 0.00202377
> > >>
> > >> Thanks in advance
> > >> --
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> > > Thomas Evangelidis
> > >
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> > > University of Athens
> > > Faculty of Pharmacy
> > > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> > > Panepistimioupoli-Zografou
> > > 157 71 Athens
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> > >
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Thomas,

Okay :) First of all, do be careful that the first stage of
relaxation, giving that nice principal component profile, is not
exclusive. If you take it off, by leaving out the first part of the
trajectory, you may well find that there is another component which is
still relaxing, which maybe could only start after the first bit
finished (think of rotation and hinging; maybe have to hinge a bit
before the (other) rotation can relax). So checking cosine content
from the start up to the point that you have a low correlation and
then claiming that the system is relaxed after that is dangerous.

What that relaxation and equilibrium is? Let's started by introducing
the initial state T, as in T(ensed). That state can be a crystal
structure, in which the packing forces cause it to adopt a structure
that has a low probability under the conditions you're doing your
simulations at. It could also be the result from (homology) modeling,
where you can imagine a set of forces having acted to yield that
structure. Of course the same set of forces is still present, but
aimed outward from the protein if you change the environment. The
system is sort of wound up as a spring, and that potential energy
needs to dissipate before you can argue that the system samples
conformations that reflect the underlying, unperturbed energy
landscape. That's what the relaxation is: losing that initial strain
and get onto the energy landscape proper.
Equilibrium is of course a different matter still, where the actual
conformations and their relative probabilities come into play.

Cheers,

Tsjerk


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Thomas Evangelidis  wrote:
> On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:
>
>> Hi Thomas,
>>
>> As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
>> inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
>> in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
>> relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
>>
>
> Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
> unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape, and
> exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this is
> what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
> from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the way I
> use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
> presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
> helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
> "relaxation.
>
>
>> equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
>> If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
>> equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
>> of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
>> take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
>> reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
>> equilibrium.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tsjerk
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis 
>> wrote:
>> > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
>> > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
>> >
>> > 0-20ns
>> > 0-30ns
>> > 0-40ns
>> > ...
>> > 0-100ns
>> >
>> > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that account
>> > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
>> > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system
>> has
>> > equilibrated enough.
>> >
>> > Thomas
>> >
>> >
>> > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Dear users,
>> >>
>> >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
>> >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last
>> 100
>> >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results were
>> >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
>> principal
>> >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
>> components
>> >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from
>> the
>> >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation
>> has
>> >> reached convergence?
>> >>
>> >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
>> >>  1 0.00685769
>> >>  2 0.137028
>> >>  3 0.00139929
>> >>  4 0.00903137
>> >>  5 0.0180072
>> >>  6 0.0128686
>> >>  7 0.00154502
>> >>  8 9.71793e-05
>> >>  9 0.00485945
>> >>  10 0.00202377
>> >>
>> >> Thanks in advance
>> >> --
>> >> Ahmet Yıldırım
>> >> --
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Because it fits a little bit better to a cosine with full period than
the first one fits a cosine with half period and the third one fits a
cosine with 1.5 period.

Tsjerk

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I think my question was misunderstood.
> My question is:
> Why is second cosine content greater than the other values?
>
> Regards
>
> 2013/2/25 Thomas Evangelidis 
>
>> On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Thomas,
>> >
>> > As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
>> > inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
>> > in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
>> > relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
>> >
>>
>> Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
>> unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape, and
>> exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this is
>> what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
>> from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the way I
>> use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
>> presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
>> helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
>> "relaxation.
>>
>>
>> > equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
>> > If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
>> > equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
>> > of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
>> > take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
>> > reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
>> > equilibrium.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Tsjerk
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis 
>> > wrote:
>> > > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
>> > > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
>> > >
>> > > 0-20ns
>> > > 0-30ns
>> > > 0-40ns
>> > > ...
>> > > 0-100ns
>> > >
>> > > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that
>> account
>> > > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been dropped at
>> > > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the system
>> > has
>> > > equilibrated enough.
>> > >
>> > > Thomas
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Dear users,
>> > >>
>> > >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the cosine
>> > >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used last
>> > 100
>> > >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results
>> were
>> > >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
>> > principal
>> > >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
>> > components
>> > >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs from
>> > the
>> > >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think simulation
>> > has
>> > >> reached convergence?
>> > >>
>> > >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
>> > >>  1 0.00685769
>> > >>  2 0.137028
>> > >>  3 0.00139929
>> > >>  4 0.00903137
>> > >>  5 0.0180072
>> > >>  6 0.0128686
>> > >>  7 0.00154502
>> > >>  8 9.71793e-05
>> > >>  9 0.00485945
>> > >>  10 0.00202377
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks in advance
>> > >> --
>> > >> Ahmet Yıldırım
>> > >> --
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>> > >
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>> > > ==
>> > >
>> > > Thomas Evangelidis
>> > >
>> > > PhD student
>> > > University of Athens
>> > > Faculty of Pharmacy
>> > > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
>> > > Panepistimioupoli-Zografou
>> > > 157 71 Athens
>> > > GREECE
>> > >
>> > > email: tev...@pharm.uoa.gr
>> > >
>> > >   teva...@gmail.com
>> > >
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[gmx-users] Building a box pure solvent with genbox for CG simulations

2013-02-25 Thread ABEL Stephane 175950
Hello All,

It is a newbie question here, but I can not find a clear response. I would like 
to create a simple box of pure DECANE for MD with the Martini force field. I 
have tried do that with genbox (as for AA force field)

genbox_mpi -cp 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -ci 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -o CG_DECANE_box.gro -box 
4.8 4.8 4.8 -nmol 255 -vdwd 0.21

where 1_CG_DECANE.pdb file contains three atoms (or beads) for decane. This 
atoms C1, C2 and C3 are placed according the geometry given in the 
martini_v2.0_solvents.itp file (i.e distance between beads of 4.7 A and angle 
of 180o). With this command, only the first atom of the DEC molecule is added 
in the box.

So how to construct of pure solvent when i use the Martini force field

In addition i have tried to use the martinize python script to transform a box 
of decane (AA) -> CG, but seemes to work only for proteins (correct ?). 

Thank you in advance for your help

Stephane 
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Re: [gmx-users] Building a box pure solvent with genbox for CG simulations

2013-02-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Stephane,

martinize.py was written to convert proteins. But you can just take
C2+C5+C8 from atomistic decane and energy minimize against the martini
topology and you'll be fine.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950
 wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> It is a newbie question here, but I can not find a clear response. I would 
> like to create a simple box of pure DECANE for MD with the Martini force 
> field. I have tried do that with genbox (as for AA force field)
>
> genbox_mpi -cp 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -ci 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -o CG_DECANE_box.gro -box 
> 4.8 4.8 4.8 -nmol 255 -vdwd 0.21
>
> where 1_CG_DECANE.pdb file contains three atoms (or beads) for decane. This 
> atoms C1, C2 and C3 are placed according the geometry given in the 
> martini_v2.0_solvents.itp file (i.e distance between beads of 4.7 A and angle 
> of 180o). With this command, only the first atom of the DEC molecule is added 
> in the box.
>
> So how to construct of pure solvent when i use the Martini force field
>
> In addition i have tried to use the martinize python script to transform a 
> box of decane (AA) -> CG, but seemes to work only for proteins (correct ?).
>
> Thank you in advance for your help
>
> Stephane
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Re: AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current

2013-02-25 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

 I am using Gromacs VERSION 4.0.7.

Nilesh


> Hi,
>
>  Which version of gromacs are you using. I am applying this tool also to
> ILs
> and it works fine for me in the release-4-5 branch. It is especially
> strange
> that you have a rotational dipole moment of zero. However, currently I
> have
> no idea where the segfault arises. Especially because you get an output.
> So
> what version you are using?
>
> Cheers,
> Flo
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
>> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
>> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 00:05
>> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
>> Betreff: Re: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> My system is ionic liquids composed of 128 cation (EMIM) and 128 anion
> (ethyl
>> sulfate). I choose system (0) as index group.
>>
>> Nilesh
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >  Can you be a little bit more specific about your system, and what you
>> > have chosen as index groups ?
>> >
>> > /Flo
>> >
>> > ---
>> > Florian Dommert
>> > Dipl. Phys.
>> >
>> > Institut für Computerphysik
>> > Universität Stuttgart
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>> > D-70569 Stuttgart
>> >
>> > Tel.: 0711-68563613
>> > Fax: 0711-68563658
>> >
>> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
>> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
>> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2013 16:17
>> >> An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
>> >> Betreff: [gmx-users] g_current
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I am calculating the correlation of the rotational and translational
>> > dipole
>> >> moment of the system using g_current.
>> >>
>> >> I used following command
>> >>
>> >> g_current -f md.trr -s md.tpr –mc
>> >>
>> >> It crashed with segmental fault.
>> >> Last frame  15000 time 3.002
>> >> Prefactor fit E-H: 1 / 6.0*V*k_B*T: 2.45747e-11
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Average translational dipole moment M_J [enm] after 15001 frames
>> >> (|M|^2):
>> >> -0.00 -0.00 -0.00 (0.00)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Average molecular dipole moment M_D [enm] after 15001 frames (|M|^2):
>> >> -7.281919 17.954138 5.845435 (490.493744)
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Absolute values:
>> >>  epsilon=2723.718750
>> >>   , , <(M_J*M_D)^2>:  (490.493744, 0.00, -0.03)
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Fluctuations:
>> >>  epsilon=450.336090
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  deltaM_D , deltaM_J, deltaM_JD:  (80.947235, 0.00, 0.00)
>> >>
>> >> 
>> >>
>> >> Static dielectric constant using integral and fluctuations:
>> >> 450.336090
>> >>
>> >>  < M_JM_D > via integral:  -0.000
>> >>
>> >> ***
>> >>
>> >> Average volume V=42.031509 nm^3 at T=300.00 K and corresponding
>> >> refactor 1.0 / 3.0*V*k_B*T*EPSILON_0: 5.550975
>> >>
>> >> Start fit at 98.08 ps (100.00).
>> >> End fit at 398.31 ps (400.00).
>> >>
>> >> Einstein-Helfand fit to the MSD of the translational dipole moment
>> >> yields:
>> >>
>> >> sigma=0.
>> >> translational fraction of M^2: 0. Dielectric constant using EH:
>> >> 2723.7188 Segmentation fault
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Can you whats the problem?
>> >>
>> >> Nilesh
>> >>
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Re: [gmx-users] Error during npt equilibration in coarse grained simulation

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 2/25/13 12:16 AM, Anu Chandran wrote:

Dear users,
I am trying to do a coarse grained simulation of an octamer of a 350
residue protein in water using gromacs-4.5.3 using martini force field. I
got the following error when i started running NPT equilibration

"Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 16.561310, max 137.568573 (between atoms 626 and 627)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length

Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 438.087891, max 3717.233887 (between atoms 580 and 581)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
 626627  121.90.2705  36.7207  0.2650
 621622   90.00.2756   0.4600  0.2700
 624626   91.50.3368 269.7515  0.3300
 621623   90.00.2756   0.3172  0.2700
 620624   90.40.3164 432.6003  0.3100
 622623   90.00.2756   0.3991  0.2700
 618620   85.50.3164 477.1006  0.3100
 626627  121.90.2705  36.7206  0.2650
 615618   88.60.3164 211.2461  0.3100
 607610  141.30.3164  14.3253  0.3100

Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
rms 134.347206, max 2000.691284 (between atoms 4949 and 4946)
bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
 610612  149.20.3164  17.6610  0.3100
 612614   89.70.3164   3.1394  0.3100
 614615  150.90.3164   9.9306  0.3100
 615618   88.60.3164 211.1131  0.3100
 618620   85.50.3164 477.0737  0.3100
 620624   90.40.3164 432.5994  0.3100
4950   4949   75.80.3164 146.5132  0.3100
 624626   91.50.3368 269.7514  0.3300
4952   4950  118.90.3164  14.6303  0.3100
 468469   90.00.2705  24.6834  0.2650
4941   4939   90.00.3368   8.5601  0.3300
 585586   61.30.2756   0.3361  0.2700
4944   4941   82.50.3164 206.9830  0.3100
 586587   90.10.2756   0.3137  0.2700
4946   4944   90.00.3164 583.5660  0.3100
 606607   90.00.3368   6.6314  0.3300
4949   4946   90.00.3164 620.5243  0.3100
 580581   91.90.4030 1003.9232  0.2700
4954   4952   90.30.3164   1.6571  0.3100
 580582   89.80.2756 960.9988  0.2700
 582583   98.60.2756 592.0677  0.2700
 463464   90.00.2654   7.6858  0.2600
 581582   88.80.1280 193.0707  0.2700
 581583   91.30.2254 514.1149  0.2700
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Segmentation fault (core dumped)"


Energy minimization and the NVT equilibration ran without any error or
warning. The mdp file used is as shown below;

title= Martini
define   = -DPOSRES
integrator   = md
dt   = 0.02
nsteps   = 5
nstcomm  = 10
comm-grps=
nstxout  = 0
nstvout  = 0
nstfout  = 0
nstlog   = 1000
nstenergy= 100
nstxtcout= 1000
xtc_precision= 100
xtc-grps =
energygrps   = Protein W
nstlist  = 10
ns_type  = grid
pbc  = xyz
rlist= 1.4
coulombtype  = Shift
rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
rcoulomb = 1.2
epsilon_r= 15
vdw_type = Shift
rvdw_switch  = 0.9
rvdw = 1.2
tcoupl   = v-rescale
tc-grps  = System
tau_t= 1.0
ref_t= 300
Pcoupl   = parrinello-rahman
Pcoupltype   = isotropic
tau_p= 5.0
compressibility  = 3e-4
ref_p= 1.0
gen_vel  = yes


If you ran NVT previously, regenerating velocities defeats that purpose and 
perturbs the system unnecessarily.  Further, Parrinello-Rahman is not very 
stable for initial equilibration; use Berendsen and then switch to P-R for data 
collection.



gen_temp = 300
gen_seed = 473529
constraints  = none
constraint_algorithm = Lincs
unconstrained_start  = no
lincs_order  = 4
lincs_warnangle  = 30

Also the water box after energy minimization showed some gaps towards the
edge of the box when visualized using VMD.


can anybody please help me on how to overcome this error?



In addition to the above, see the standard advice for unstable s

Re: [gmx-users] Simulation problem

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 2/25/13 1:01 AM, Jernej Zidar wrote:

Hi.
   I've been running some polymer simulations on our cluster and I'm
getting this error:
One of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off
length or box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the
cut-off.

   What does this error mean? I imagine it is somehow related to the
unit cell. Could the error be related to the fact that the unit cell
is rather long (along x axis) but short along the other axis. The
thickness of the solvation layer is 2.0 nm, which should be OK.



The error means that fluctuation of the unit cell dimensions will cause 
violation of the minimum image convention.  Either the simulation box has become 
unstable and is going to crash, or you have larger fluctuations than you 
anticipated in the pressure (and thus box size) when building the system.


-Justin


   I use the following input:
; Run parameters
integrator  = md; leap-frog integrator
nsteps  = 2500  ; 2 * 2500 = 50 ns
dt  = 0.002 ; 2 fs

; Bond parameters
continuation=   yes ; Restarting after NVT
constraint_algorithm=   lincs   ; holonomic constraints
constraints =   hbonds  ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H
bonds) constrained
lincs_iter  =   1   ; accuracy of LINCS
lincs_order =   4   ; also related to accuracy

; Output control
nstxout = 1 ; save coordinates every 20 ps
nstenergy   = 1000  ; save energies every 20 ps
nstlog  = 1000  ; update log file every 20 ps

; Neighbour searching
ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist   = 1.2   ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in nm)

; Non-bonded interactions
vdw-type= shift
rvdw= 1.0   ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in nm)
rvdw-switch = 0.8

; Electrostatics
coulombtype = PME   ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
electrostatics
rcoulomb= 1.2   ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in nm)
pme_order   = 4 ; cubic interpolation
fourierspacing  = 0.12  ; grid spacing for FFT
optimize-fft= yes   ; optimize the FFT transforms for the
current problem

; Temperature coupling is on for three groups
tcoupl  = Nose-Hoover   ; More accurate thermostat
tc-grps = POLYMER Water_CL_NA   ; three coupling groups - more accurate
tau_t   = 0.5   0.5 ; time constant, in ps
ref_t   = 300   300 ; reference temperature, one
for each group, in K

; Pressure coupling is on
pcoupl  = Parrinello-Rahman ; Pressure coupling on in NPT
pcoupltype  = isotropic ; uniform scaling of x-y box
vectors, independent z
tau_p   = 5.0   ; time constant, in ps
ref_p   = 1.0   ; reference pressure, x-y, z (in bar)
compressibility = 4.5e-5; isothermal compressibility, bar^-1

; Miscelanous
gen_vel = no; Velocity generation is off
dispcorr= no; account for cut-off vdW scheme

; Center of mass (COM) motion removal
; Reason: these options remove motion of the protein/bilayer relative
to the solvent/ions
nstcomm = 10
comm-mode   = Linear
comm-grps   = POLYMER Water_CL_NA

- - -

Thanks in advance for any help or advice,
Jernej Zidar



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Re: [gmx-users] request

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 2/25/13 6:09 AM, Group Gro wrote:




Dear Gromacs Users.


I apologize for asking a question that has come up several times by numerous users in the 
previous e-mails, but I have read the answers and suggestions to those posts and I am not 
still able to solve the problem based on them. It is completely possible that I am just 
not seeing the obvious, so I apologize, but I would welcome any advice. I want to work on 
"Human Glutathione Peroxidase" and downloaded its pdb file, but when I try 
pdb2gmx, I face Fatal Error:

Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 4.5.5
Source code file:
/build/buildd/gromacs-4.5.5/src/kernel/pgutil.c, line: 91
Fatal error:
Atom CD is used in an interaction of
type atom in the topology
database, but an atom of that name was
not found in residue
number 50.


I tried different force fields, for example OPLS-AA/L all-atom force field, 
different versions of AMBERs, but I
always get the same problem! When I tried GROMOS's versions, the problem goes 
on CZ atom instead of CD. Here is a chunk of my pdb file (I have also attached 
the full pdb file to this e-mail):

SHEET6   A 1 PHE A 183  PRO A190  0
SHEET7   A 1 GLY A 192  HIS A200  0
MODEL
ATOM  1N GLY A  38  -4.242  -9.833 -26.316  1.00  0.00   N
ATOM  2   CA GLY A  38  -3.416 -10.949 -25.765  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  3C GLY A  38  -1.953 -10.570 -25.632  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  4O GLY A  38  -1.069
  -11.266 -26.159  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM  5N THR A  39  -1.673  -9.461 -24.940  1.00  0.00   N
ATOM  6   CA THR A  39  -0.286  -9.039 -24.705  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  7C THR A  39  -0.073  -8.722 -23.214  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM  8O THR A  39  -1.035  -8.559 -22.442  1.00
  0.00   O
ATOM  9   CB THR A  39   0.124  -7.784 -25.533  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM 10  OG1 THR A  39  -0.415  -6.602 -24.926  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM 11  CG2 THR A  39  -0.309  -7.882 -27.037  1.00  0.00   C
…..
ATOM 91  OD1 ASP A  49  10.106   1.841  -5.471  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM 92  OD2 ASP A  49  12.010   2.918  -5.273  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM 93N GLY A   50   8.192   0.495  -3.643  1.00  0.00   N
ATOM 94   CA GLY A   50   6.805   0.919  -3.449  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM 95C GLY A   50   6.525   2.278  -4.054  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM
  96O GLY A   50   5.449   2.818  -3.864  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM 97N GLU A   51   7.471   2.832  -4.802  1.00  0.00   N
ATOM 98   CA GLU A   51   7.351   4.238  -5.211  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM 99C GLU A51   6.737   4.438  -6.592  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM100O GLU A
51   6.291   5.522  -6.897  1.00  0.00   O
ATOM101   CB GLU A  51   8.713   4.941  -5.174  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM102   CG GLU A  51   9.283   5.140  -3.759  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM103   CD GLU A  51   8.612   6.301  -3.006  1.00  0.00   C
ATOM104N GLU A   52   6.729
  3.418  -7.432  1.00  0.00   N
….
ATOM3035OH TYR  A   228  -9.320
-43.377 -52.577  1.00  0.00   O
TER3036  TYR A 228
ENDMDL
HETATM 3037   CL  CL 11000 -16.070
-39.525  -6.168  1.00  0.00  CL
HETATM 3038   NA  NA 11001  -1.679
-34.065  -0.491  1.00  0.00  NA
CONECT  996 1519
CONECT 1021 1519
CONECT 1519  996 1021
END

I know that the residue number printed
by pdb2gmx is actually starting from zero, so the problem is actually in GLU.
In both rtp file and pdb I have CD atom. Some suggestions wanted to
change the order of C and O in pdb file, but it didn't work. What should I do?


Your statements are inconsistent.  You say above that changing the force field 
triggers a problem with a different atom (CZ instead of CD), which doesn't make 
much sense.  The amino acids have standard atom nomenclature, so changing the 
force field should not change the error.  Beyond that, the real reason is that 
you're missing an atom somewhere and the PDB header should have clearing 
"MISSING" lines that tell you exactly what that is.  If you need further help 
diagnosing, providing the actual PDB code would be helpful.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: Dimer Dissociation Problem

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul


Please keep all Gromacs-related correspondence on the gmx-users list.  I am not 
a private tutor.  I am CC'ing the list and ask that further comments and 
questions will be posted there.


On 2/25/13 7:42 AM, mrda...@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Justin
Greetings
I simulate HIV-1 Protease with its substrate for 20ns in cubic box filled with 
SPC water using the following parameters:
title   =  n.pdb
cpp =  /lib/cpp
constraints =  none
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.001
nsteps  =  2000
nstcomm =  1
comm_mode   =  Linear
comm_grps   =
nstxout =  250
nstvout =  1000
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  100
nstenergy   =  100
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1.2
coulombtype =  PME
rcoulomb=  1.2
rvdw=  1.4
fourierspacing  =  0.12
fourier_nx  =  0
fourier_ny  =  0
fourier_nz  =  0
pme_order   =  4
ewald_rtol  =  1e-5
optimize_fft=  yes

; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in three groups
Tcoupl  =  berendsen
tau_t   =  0.1
tc-grps =  system
ref_t   =  310
; Pressure coupling is  on
Pcoupl  =  berendsen
tau_p   =  0.5
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1.0
; Generate velocites is on at 310 K.
gen_vel =  yes
gen_temp=  310.0
gen_seed=  173529
Unfortunately the dimer is dissociate to its monomers. what is the problem 
causing this unwanted event?
thank you very much for your considerations


I doubt it's actually dissociating.  What you're seeing is probably a simple 
result of periodic boundary conditions.


http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Periodic_Boundary_Conditions

If a trajectory that has been properly post-processed by trjconv shows a 
dissociation event, then you should be able to easily observe why it happens by 
watching the trajectory in your favorite visualization software.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Ahmet yıldırım
Then, these cosine content's results are all normal?

2013/2/25 Tsjerk Wassenaar 

> Because it fits a little bit better to a cosine with full period than
> the first one fits a cosine with half period and the third one fits a
> cosine with 1.5 period.
>
> Tsjerk
>
> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Ahmet yıldırım 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think my question was misunderstood.
> > My question is:
> > Why is second cosine content greater than the other values?
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > 2013/2/25 Thomas Evangelidis 
> >
> >> On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Thomas,
> >> >
> >> > As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
> >> > inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
> >> > in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
> >> > relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
> >> >
> >>
> >> Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
> >> unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape,
> and
> >> exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this
> is
> >> what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
> >> from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the
> way I
> >> use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
> >> presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
> >> helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
> >> "relaxation.
> >>
> >>
> >> > equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
> >> > If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
> >> > equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
> >> > of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
> >> > take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
> >> > reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
> >> > equilibrium.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> >
> >> > Tsjerk
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis <
> teva...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
> >> > > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
> >> > >
> >> > > 0-20ns
> >> > > 0-30ns
> >> > > 0-40ns
> >> > > ...
> >> > > 0-100ns
> >> > >
> >> > > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that
> >> account
> >> > > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been
> dropped at
> >> > > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the
> system
> >> > has
> >> > > equilibrated enough.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thomas
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım 
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Dear users,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the
> cosine
> >> > >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used
> last
> >> > 100
> >> > >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results
> >> were
> >> > >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
> >> > principal
> >> > >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
> >> > components
> >> > >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs
> from
> >> > the
> >> > >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think
> simulation
> >> > has
> >> > >> reached convergence?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
> >> > >>  1 0.00685769
> >> > >>  2 0.137028
> >> > >>  3 0.00139929
> >> > >>  4 0.00903137
> >> > >>  5 0.0180072
> >> > >>  6 0.0128686
> >> > >>  7 0.00154502
> >> > >>  8 9.71793e-05
> >> > >>  9 0.00485945
> >> > >>  10 0.00202377
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks in advance
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Ahmet Yıldırım
> >> > >> --
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> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > >
> ==
> >> > >
> >> > > Thomas Evangelidis
> >> > >
> >> > > PhD student
> >> > > University of Athens
> >> > > Faculty of Pharmacy
> >> > > Department of Pharmaceutical Chemistry
> >> > > Panepistimioupoli-Zografou
> >> > > 157 71 Athens
> >> > > GREECE
> >> > >
> >> > > email: tev...@pharm.uoa.gr
> >> > >
> >> > >   teva...@gmail.com
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > website: https://sites.google.com/site/thomasevangelidishomepage/
> >> > > --
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Re: [gmx-users] regarding the cosine content analysis

2013-02-25 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Well, the cosine content doesn't tell you very much anyway. And
fitting a cosine with a full period to the second component only makes
sense if the first fits well to a half cosine. If the correlation
coefficient is about .1, it tells you less. It says nothing,
absolutely nothing about convergence and/or equilibrium.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 2:36 PM, Ahmet yıldırım  wrote:
> Then, these cosine content's results are all normal?
>
> 2013/2/25 Tsjerk Wassenaar 
>
>> Because it fits a little bit better to a cosine with full period than
>> the first one fits a cosine with half period and the third one fits a
>> cosine with 1.5 period.
>>
>> Tsjerk
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Ahmet yıldırım 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I think my question was misunderstood.
>> > My question is:
>> > Why is second cosine content greater than the other values?
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > 2013/2/25 Thomas Evangelidis 
>> >
>> >> On 25 February 2013 12:14, Tsjerk Wassenaar  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Hi Thomas,
>> >> >
>> >> > As I've explained previously, the cosine content does not allow such
>> >> > inferences. Besides, taking the relaxation from the start into account
>> >> > in PCA is pretty nonsensical, unless you aim to characterize that
>> >> > relaxation in the first place. Looking at the cosine content to infer
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Yes, that's what I meant, to identity those ns where the protein does
>> >> unidirectional motion before it starts exploring the energy landscape,
>> and
>> >> exclude them from the final analysis (whatever this is). At least this
>> is
>> >> what I've seen doing in publications and this is what I have understood
>> >> from our previous conversations. I think your objection is about the
>> way I
>> >> use the term "equilibration" to refer to what you call "relaxation" (I
>> >> presume it is not the same as energy minimization). Perhaps it would be
>> >> helpful to have your definition of the terms "equilibration" and
>> >> "relaxation.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > equilibration from that is blatantly fooling yourself.
>> >> > If you feel you must use cosine content to support any claim on
>> >> > equilibration, then it is a much better approach to start from the end
>> >> > of the simulation and check that the stretch of the trajectory you
>> >> > take does not yield high cosine contents, in which case you have some
>> >> > reason to argue that that part of the simulation is sampled in a local
>> >> > equilibrium.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cheers,
>> >> >
>> >> > Tsjerk
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Evangelidis <
>> teva...@gmail.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > > You don't do it the right way. You must start the analysis from the
>> >> > > beginning not from the end of your trajectory. I.e.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 0-20ns
>> >> > > 0-30ns
>> >> > > 0-40ns
>> >> > > ...
>> >> > > 0-100ns
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Until the cosine content of the first 3 principal components that
>> >> account
>> >> > > for most of the variance in the atomic fluctuation have been
>> dropped at
>> >> > > least once below 0.5. This is the point where theoretically the
>> system
>> >> > has
>> >> > > equilibrated enough.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Thomas
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On 22 February 2013 13:43, Ahmet yıldırım 
>> wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >> Dear users,
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I performed MD simulation of 400 ns of a structure. I used the
>> cosine
>> >> > >> content to check whether the simulation is not converged. I used
>> last
>> >> > 100
>> >> > >> and 50 ns of trajectory to the analysis, respectively. The results
>> >> were
>> >> > >> very similar to each other.The cosine contents of the first ten
>> >> > principal
>> >> > >> components are as follows. The cosine contents of the principal
>> >> > components
>> >> > >> are very small but one. Why is the second cosine content differs
>> from
>> >> > the
>> >> > >> others? What could be the reason for this? And do you think
>> simulation
>> >> > has
>> >> > >> reached convergence?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> The cosine contents of last 50 ns:
>> >> > >>  1 0.00685769
>> >> > >>  2 0.137028
>> >> > >>  3 0.00139929
>> >> > >>  4 0.00903137
>> >> > >>  5 0.0180072
>> >> > >>  6 0.0128686
>> >> > >>  7 0.00154502
>> >> > >>  8 9.71793e-05
>> >> > >>  9 0.00485945
>> >> > >>  10 0.00202377
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Thanks in advance
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AW: AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current

2013-02-25 Thread Florian Dommert
Hi,

 Can you update your Gromacs version to an actual release and check if the
problem still occurs. It is very strange that the Einstein-Helfand fit gives
0 for sigma and M_J^2.

Cheers,
Flo

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Institut für Computerphysik
Universität Stuttgart
Allmandring 3
D-70569 Stuttgart

Tel.: 0711-68563613
Fax: 0711-68563658

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 14:00
> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
> 
> Hello,
> 
>  I am using Gromacs VERSION 4.0.7.
> 
> Nilesh
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >  Which version of gromacs are you using. I am applying this tool also
> > to ILs and it works fine for me in the release-4-5 branch. It is
> > especially strange that you have a rotational dipole moment of zero.
> > However, currently I have no idea where the segfault arises.
> > Especially because you get an output.
> > So
> > what version you are using?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Flo
> >
> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
> >> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 00:05
> >> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
> >> Betreff: Re: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> My system is ionic liquids composed of 128 cation (EMIM) and 128
> >> anion
> > (ethyl
> >> sulfate). I choose system (0) as index group.
> >>
> >> Nilesh
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >  Can you be a little bit more specific about your system, and what
> >> > you have chosen as index groups ?
> >> >
> >> > /Flo
> >> >
> >> > ---
> >> > Florian Dommert
> >> > Dipl. Phys.
> >> >
> >> > Institut für Computerphysik
> >> > Universität Stuttgart
> >> > Allmandring 3
> >> > D-70569 Stuttgart
> >> >
> >> > Tel.: 0711-68563613
> >> > Fax: 0711-68563658
> >> >
> >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> >> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
> >> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
> >> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2013 16:17
> >> >> An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> >> >> Betreff: [gmx-users] g_current
> >> >>
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >>
> >> >> I am calculating the correlation of the rotational and
> >> >> translational
> >> > dipole
> >> >> moment of the system using g_current.
> >> >>
> >> >> I used following command
> >> >>
> >> >> g_current -f md.trr -s md.tpr –mc
> >> >>
> >> >> It crashed with segmental fault.
> >> >> Last frame  15000 time 3.002
> >> >> Prefactor fit E-H: 1 / 6.0*V*k_B*T: 2.45747e-11
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Average translational dipole moment M_J [enm] after 15001 frames
> >> >> (|M|^2):
> >> >> -0.00 -0.00 -0.00 (0.00)
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Average molecular dipole moment M_D [enm] after 15001 frames
> (|M|^2):
> >> >> -7.281919 17.954138 5.845435 (490.493744)
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >> Absolute values:
> >> >>  epsilon=2723.718750
> >> >>   , , <(M_J*M_D)^2>:  (490.493744, 0.00,
> >> >> -0.03)
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Fluctuations:
> >> >>  epsilon=450.336090
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>  deltaM_D , deltaM_J, deltaM_JD:  (80.947235, 0.00, 0.00)
> >> >>
> >> >> 
> >> >>
> >> >> Static dielectric constant using integral and fluctuations:
> >> >> 450.336090
> >> >>
> >> >>  < M_JM_D > via integral:  -0.000
> >> >>
> >> >> ***
> >> >>
> >> >> Average volume V=42.031509 nm^3 at T=300.00 K and
> >> >> corresponding refactor 1.0 / 3.0*V*k_B*T*EPSILON_0: 5.550975
> >> >>
> >> >> Start fit at 98.08 ps (100.00).
> >> >> End fit at 398.31 ps (400.00).
> >> >>
> >> >> Einstein-Helfand fit to the MSD of the translational dipole moment
> >> >> yields:
> >> >>
> >> >> sigma=0.
> >> >> translational fraction of M^2: 0. Dielectric constant using EH:
> >> >> 2723.7188 Segmentation fault
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Can you whats the problem?
> >> >>
> >> >> Nilesh
> >> >>
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Re: AW: AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current

2013-02-25 Thread Nilesh Dhumal
Hello,

Thanks.

I will update Gromacs version. Can you tell which version you are using ?

Nilesh

> Hi,
>
>  Can you update your Gromacs version to an actual release and check if the
> problem still occurs. It is very strange that the Einstein-Helfand fit
> gives
> 0 for sigma and M_J^2.
>
> Cheers,
> Flo
>
> ---
> Florian Dommert
> Dipl. Phys.
>
> Institut für Computerphysik
> Universität Stuttgart
> Allmandring 3
> D-70569 Stuttgart
>
> Tel.: 0711-68563613
> Fax: 0711-68563658
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
>> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
>> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 14:00
>> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
>> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  I am using Gromacs VERSION 4.0.7.
>>
>> Nilesh
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >  Which version of gromacs are you using. I am applying this tool also
>> > to ILs and it works fine for me in the release-4-5 branch. It is
>> > especially strange that you have a rotational dipole moment of zero.
>> > However, currently I have no idea where the segfault arises.
>> > Especially because you get an output.
>> > So
>> > what version you are using?
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Flo
>> >
>> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
>> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
>> >> Gesendet: Montag, 25. Februar 2013 00:05
>> >> An: Discussion list for GROMACS users
>> >> Betreff: Re: AW: [gmx-users] g_current
>> >>
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> My system is ionic liquids composed of 128 cation (EMIM) and 128
>> >> anion
>> > (ethyl
>> >> sulfate). I choose system (0) as index group.
>> >>
>> >> Nilesh
>> >>
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> >  Can you be a little bit more specific about your system, and what
>> >> > you have chosen as index groups ?
>> >> >
>> >> > /Flo
>> >> >
>> >> > ---
>> >> > Florian Dommert
>> >> > Dipl. Phys.
>> >> >
>> >> > Institut für Computerphysik
>> >> > Universität Stuttgart
>> >> > Allmandring 3
>> >> > D-70569 Stuttgart
>> >> >
>> >> > Tel.: 0711-68563613
>> >> > Fax: 0711-68563658
>> >> >
>> >> >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> >> >> Von: gmx-users-boun...@gromacs.org [mailto:gmx-users-
>> >> >> boun...@gromacs.org] Im Auftrag von Nilesh Dhumal
>> >> >> Gesendet: Samstag, 23. Februar 2013 16:17
>> >> >> An: gmx-users@gromacs.org
>> >> >> Betreff: [gmx-users] g_current
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I am calculating the correlation of the rotational and
>> >> >> translational
>> >> > dipole
>> >> >> moment of the system using g_current.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I used following command
>> >> >>
>> >> >> g_current -f md.trr -s md.tpr –mc
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It crashed with segmental fault.
>> >> >> Last frame  15000 time 3.002
>> >> >> Prefactor fit E-H: 1 / 6.0*V*k_B*T: 2.45747e-11
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Average translational dipole moment M_J [enm] after 15001 frames
>> >> >> (|M|^2):
>> >> >> -0.00 -0.00 -0.00 (0.00)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Average molecular dipole moment M_D [enm] after 15001 frames
>> (|M|^2):
>> >> >> -7.281919 17.954138 5.845435 (490.493744)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Absolute values:
>> >> >>  epsilon=2723.718750
>> >> >>   , , <(M_J*M_D)^2>:  (490.493744, 0.00,
>> >> >> -0.03)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Fluctuations:
>> >> >>  epsilon=450.336090
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  deltaM_D , deltaM_J, deltaM_JD:  (80.947235, 0.00, 0.00)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Static dielectric constant using integral and fluctuations:
>> >> >> 450.336090
>> >> >>
>> >> >>  < M_JM_D > via integral:  -0.000
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ***
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Average volume V=42.031509 nm^3 at T=300.00 K and
>> >> >> corresponding refactor 1.0 / 3.0*V*k_B*T*EPSILON_0: 5.550975
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Start fit at 98.08 ps (100.00).
>> >> >> End fit at 398.31 ps (400.00).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Einstein-Helfand fit to the MSD of the translational dipole moment
>> >> >> yields:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> sigma=0.
>> >> >> translational fraction of M^2: 0. Dielectric constant using
>> EH:
>> >> >> 2723.7188 Segmentation fault
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Can you whats the problem?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nilesh
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
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[gmx-users] Re: Building a box pure solvent with genbox for CG simulations

2013-02-25 Thread ABEL Stephane 175950
Many Thanks Tsjerk, 

It works

A bientot

Stephane
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Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 13:51:53 +0100
From: Tsjerk Wassenaar 
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Building a box pure solvent with genbox for
CG  simulations
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Stephane,

martinize.py was written to convert proteins. But you can just take
C2+C5+C8 from atomistic decane and energy minimize against the martini
topology and you'll be fine.

Cheers,

Tsjerk

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM, ABEL Stephane 175950
 wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> It is a newbie question here, but I can not find a clear response. I would 
> like to create a simple box of pure DECANE for MD with the Martini force 
> field. I have tried do that with genbox (as for AA force field)
>
> genbox_mpi -cp 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -ci 1_CG_DECANE.pdb -o CG_DECANE_box.gro -box 
> 4.8 4.8 4.8 -nmol 255 -vdwd 0.21
>
> where 1_CG_DECANE.pdb file contains three atoms (or beads) for decane. This 
> atoms C1, C2 and C3 are placed according the geometry given in the 
> martini_v2.0_solvents.itp file (i.e distance between beads of 4.7 A and angle 
> of 180o). With this command, only the first atom of the DEC molecule is added 
> in the box.
>
> So how to construct of pure solvent when i use the Martini force field
>
> In addition i have tried to use the martinize python script to transform a 
> box of decane (AA) -> CG, but seemes to work only for proteins (correct ?).
>
> Thank you in advance for your help
>
> Stephane
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[gmx-users] Re: Regarding Gromacs error

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul


Please keep all Gromacs-related correspondence on the gmx-users list.  I am not 
a private tutor.  I am CC'ing the list and ask that further comments and 
questions will be posted there.


On 2/25/13 9:09 AM, bhavaniprasad vipperla wrote:

Hello sir,
I have been using GROMACS for my MD work. I had many queries cleared by you 
earlier.
I got a query, please help me out regarding this.

I am trying to do MD study for a phosphorylated and un-phosphorylated form of 
my protein.

I have tried adding the phosphate group using Discovery studio but it doesn't 
get read as Phosphotyrosine while running in gromacs.

I  had obtained the modified forcefields submitted by you, having 
Phosphorylated versions of the Aminoacids from the gromacs website and using it 
for simulations.

Its giving an error

Warning: Residue PTR208 in chain has different type(other) from starting 
residue MET1 (Protein)

Identified Residue ASN207 as a ending terminus.



The above warnings are fixed by following step 5 here:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/How-tos/Adding_a_Residue_to_a_Force_Field#Adding_a_new_residue


*Fatal Error:*

*Residue 'HISE' not found in residue topology database.*

*
*

But i dont have any HISE residue in my topology and its also not reading the 
phosphorylated residue at 208 position.

I tried checking in the gromacs forum, but couldnt find any related queries. So 
am asking for your help.



Here, you probably need to add an entry in aminoacids.r2b to translate building 
block and .rtp names.  HISE is the epsilon-protonated form of histidine, which 
is called HISB in many force fields.  See existing force field files for an example.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] latest Gromacs paper

2013-02-25 Thread Peter Kasson
We are pleased to announce the publication last month of the latest
Gromacs paper:

GROMACS 4.5: a high-throughput and highly parallel open source
molecular simulation toolkit

Sander Pronk, Szilárd Páll, Roland Schulz, Per Larsson. Pär Bjelkmar,
Rossen Apostolov, Michael R. Shirts, Jeremy C. Smith, Peter M. Kasson,
David van der Spoel, Berk Hess, Erik Lindahl

http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/02/21/bioinformatics.btt055.abstract

Thanks to everyone whose hard work made this possible.  We hope you
will find the paper interesting and informative.  And yes, the paper
version lags the software release version somewhat.
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[gmx-users] Re: Gromacs 4.6 Installation under Cygwin

2013-02-25 Thread toma0052

Hello,
Thanks for the help. After setting the library path properly, I seem 
to be able to get gromacs up and running. However, I have run into another 
problem with mdrun and actually running any jobs. When I execute
mdrun -v -deffnm Clp_Test -nt 


The output is: Reading file Clp_Test.tpr, VERSION 4.6 (single precision)
Using 8 MPI threads

Followed by several occurrences of:
Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should support
setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.

Then:
starting mdrun 'Martini system for ClpX'
1 steps,200.0 ps.

After this however, the simulation never actually begins. I can get rid of 
the error messages by using -pin off, but that doesn't seem to actually fix 
anything. Is there something that has not been installed properly? Below is 
the seemingly relevant portions of the log file generated by the above 
mdrun command.



Log file opened on Mon Feb 25 11:21:08 2013
Host: Theory-Monster  pid: 3192  nodeid: 0  nnodes:  1
Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6
Precision:  single
Memory model:   32 bit
MPI library:thread_mpi
OpenMP support: enabled
GPU support:disabled
invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
FFT library:fftw-3.3.3-sse2
Large file support: enabled
RDTSCP usage:   enabled
Built on:   Mon, Feb 25, 2013 10:38:04 AM
Built by:   Mike@Theory-Monster [CMAKE]
Build OS/arch:  CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) i686
Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Build CPU family:   6   Model: 45   Stepping: 7
Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr 
nonstop_tsc pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 
sse4.2 ssse3 tdt x2apic

C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc.exe GNU gcc (GCC) 4.5.3
C compiler flags: -mavx -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
-Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value -fomit-frame-pointer 
-funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast -O3 -DNDEBUG


Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 nodes
Dynamic load balancing: auto
Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
   two-body bonded interactions: 0.988 nm, Bond, atoms 997 1005
 multi-body bonded interactions: 1.042 nm, G96Angle, atoms 1938 1942
Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.146 nm
Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.810 nm
Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.810 nm
Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.433 nm
The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 11 Y 11 Z 9
Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME nodes 0
Domain decomposition nodeid 0, coordinates 0 0 0

Using 8 MPI threads

Detecting CPU-specific acceleration.
Present hardware specification:
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Brand:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Family:  6  Model: 45  Stepping:  7
Features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr nonstop_tsc 
pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 ssse3 
tdt x2apic

Acceleration most likely to fit this hardware: AVX_256
Acceleration selected at GROMACS compile time: AVX_256

Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
Table routines are used for vdw: TRUE
Using shifted Lennard-Jones, switch between 0.9 and 1.2 nm
Cut-off's:   NS: 1.4   Coulomb: 1.2   LJ: 1.2
System total charge: 0.000
Generated table with 1200 data points for Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ6Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ12Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Potential shift: LJ r^-12: 0.000 r^-6 0.000
Removing pbc first time

Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should support
setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.

Initializing Parallel LINear Constraint Solver

 PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE 
B. Hess
P-LINCS: A Parallel Linear Constraint Solver for molecular simulation
J. Chem. Theory Comput. 4 (2008) pp. 116-122
  --- Thank You ---  

The number of constraints is 840
There are inter charge-group constraints,
will communicate selected coordinates each lincs iteration
414 constraints are involved in constraint triangles,
will apply an additional matrix expansion of order 4 for couplings
between constraints inside triangles

Linking all bonded interactions to atoms

The initial number of communication pulses is: X 1 Y 1
The initial domain decomposition cell size is: X 4.02 nm Y 8.04 nm

The maximum allowed distance for charge groups involved in interactions is:
non-bonded inter

[gmx-users] latest Gromacs paper

2013-02-25 Thread Rossen Apostolov

Dear Gromacs users,

We are pleased to announce the publication last month of the latest
Gromacs paper:

GROMACS 4.5: a high-throughput and highly parallel open source
molecular simulation toolkit

Sander Pronk, Szilárd Páll, Roland Schulz, Per Larsson. Pär Bjelkmar,
Rossen Apostolov, Michael R. Shirts, Jeremy C. Smith, Peter M. Kasson,
David van der Spoel, Berk Hess, Erik Lindahl

http://bioinformatics.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/02/21/bioinformatics.btt055.abstract

Thanks to everyone whose hard work made this possible.  We hope you
will find the paper interesting and informative.  And yes, the paper
version lags the software release version somewhat.

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[gmx-users] g_bar for larger systems (protein-protein interaction)

2013-02-25 Thread Ricardo O. S. Soares

Hello dear users,

I just took a look at the new gromacs paper at Bioinformatics, and I 
noticed a new tool g_bar, which is used for free energy calculations. I 
also found a nice tutorial by Justin Lemkul. While I'm adapting the 
workflow to my system, I'd like to know from anyone with more expertise 
in this field, if this method can be successfully applied to larger 
molecules as ligands, other than small organic ligands. What is the 
effectiveness in determining a  protein-protein (300+ residues) energy 
of binding, if any?


Thanks,

Ricardo.
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Re: [gmx-users] g_bar for larger systems (protein-protein interaction)

2013-02-25 Thread Michael Shirts
My personal opinion is that for large protein-protein calculations,
the free energy should be computed through potential of mean force
calculations, NOT alchemical methods, using the endpoints (properly
corrected) to determine the free energy of association.

There are a number of tutorials and example papers on how to compute
these potentials of mean force, so I won't go into those details here.

On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Ricardo O. S. Soares
 wrote:
> Hello dear users,
>
> I just took a look at the new gromacs paper at Bioinformatics, and I noticed
> a new tool g_bar, which is used for free energy calculations. I also found a
> nice tutorial by Justin Lemkul. While I'm adapting the workflow to my
> system, I'd like to know from anyone with more expertise in this field, if
> this method can be successfully applied to larger molecules as ligands,
> other than small organic ligands. What is the effectiveness in determining a
> protein-protein (300+ residues) energy of binding, if any?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ricardo.
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[gmx-users] Can not stop center of mass: maybe 2dimensional system

2013-02-25 Thread philip han
Hi, all gmx-users,
 I am trying to simulate a system of an ion restrained at the center of
water cluster. So I set pbc = no, used "cut-off" for coulomb and vdw.  To
restrain the ion at the center of water cluster, I used COMM-pulling. Set
water molecules and the ion in two groups, and applied distance pulling.
Also, I set 
nstcomm =  10
comm_grps   =  system
comm_mode   = Angular, 
But the simulation stopped right after , and error is" Can not stop center
of mass: maybe 2dimensional system". If I did not remove center of mass
motion, the whole system drifted a lot and my system messed up. Could
someone give me advices on how to solve this problem? thanks
philip



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Gromacs 4.6 Installation under Cygwin

2013-02-25 Thread Szilárd Páll
That's strange, it seems that mdrun gets stuck somewhere. This should not
happen, but as we don't actively test cygwin, we can't be sure what's
happening. It would be great if you could help us figure out what is going
wrong.

Could you try doing the following:
- run with -ntmpi 1 -ntomp 1 (i.e single-threaded);
- run with OpenMP (-only) multhithreading, that is with -ntmpi 1 (this
should start with 8 OpenMP threads)
- run with -debug 1 which will produce the mdrun.debug output, please
upload this to e.g pastebin and post a link;

On a side-note: you would be better off using a newer gcc, 4.7 should be
considerably faster than 4.5 - especially on this Sandy Bridge Xeon
processor.

Cheers,

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On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM,  wrote:

> Hello,
> Thanks for the help. After setting the library path properly, I seem
> to be able to get gromacs up and running. However, I have run into another
> problem with mdrun and actually running any jobs. When I execute
> mdrun -v -deffnm Clp_Test -nt
> The output is: Reading file Clp_Test.tpr, VERSION 4.6 (single precision)
> Using 8 MPI threads
>
> Followed by several occurrences of:
> Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
> can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should
> support
> setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.
>
> Then:
> starting mdrun 'Martini system for ClpX'
> 1 steps,200.0 ps.
>
> After this however, the simulation never actually begins. I can get rid of
> the error messages by using -pin off, but that doesn't seem to actually fix
> anything. Is there something that has not been installed properly? Below is
> the seemingly relevant portions of the log file generated by the above
> mdrun command.
>
>
> Log file opened on Mon Feb 25 11:21:08 2013
> Host: Theory-Monster  pid: 3192  nodeid: 0  nnodes:  1
> Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6
> Precision:  single
> Memory model:   32 bit
> MPI library:thread_mpi
> OpenMP support: enabled
> GPU support:disabled
> invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
> CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
> FFT library:fftw-3.3.3-sse2
> Large file support: enabled
> RDTSCP usage:   enabled
> Built on:   Mon, Feb 25, 2013 10:38:04 AM
> Built by:   Mike@Theory-Monster [CMAKE]
> Build OS/arch:  CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) i686
> Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
> Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
> Build CPU family:   6   Model: 45   Stepping: 7
> Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr
> nonstop_tsc pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1
> sse4.2 ssse3 tdt x2apic
> C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc.exe GNU gcc (GCC) 4.5.3
> C compiler flags: -mavx -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-**initializers
> -Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value -fomit-frame-pointer
> -funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast -O3 -DNDEBUG
>
> Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 nodes
> Dynamic load balancing: auto
> Will sort the charge groups at every domain (re)decomposition
> Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
>two-body bonded interactions: 0.988 nm, Bond, atoms 997 1005
>  multi-body bonded interactions: 1.042 nm, G96Angle, atoms 1938 1942
> Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 1.146 nm
> Maximum distance for 5 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.810 nm
> Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.810 nm
> Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds) = 1.25
> Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial size of 1.433 nm
> The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 11 Y 11 Z 9
> Domain decomposition grid 4 x 2 x 1, separate PME nodes 0
> Domain decomposition nodeid 0, coordinates 0 0 0
>
> Using 8 MPI threads
>
> Detecting CPU-specific acceleration.
> Present hardware specification:
> Vendor: GenuineIntel
> Brand:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
> Family:  6  Model: 45  Stepping:  7
> Features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr nonstop_tsc
> pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 sse4.2 ssse3
> tdt x2apic
> Acceleration most likely to fit this hardware: AVX_256
> Acceleration selected at GROMACS compile time: AVX_256
>
> Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
> Table routines are used for vdw: TRUE
> Using shifted Lennard-Jones, switch between 0.9 and 1.2 nm
> Cut-off's:   NS: 1.4   Coulomb: 1.2   LJ: 1.2
> System total charge: 0.000
> Generated table with 1200 data points for Shift.
> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
> Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ6Shift.
> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
> Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ12Shift.
> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
> Potential shift: LJ r^-12: 0.000 r^-6 0.000
> Removing pbc first time
>
> Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
> can cause performance degradation. If you think your platfo

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Gromacs 4.6 Installation under Cygwin

2013-02-25 Thread toma0052

Hi,
I have run the 3 scenarios that you mentioned. The commands and output 
are pasted below.


Thanks,
Mike


***Trial 1***
mdrun -v -deffnm Clp_Test -ntmpi 1 -ntomp 1
Reading file Clp_Test.tpr, VERSION 4.6 (single precision)
Using 1 MPI thread

Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should support
setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.

starting mdrun 'Martini system for ClpX'
1 steps,200.0 ps.

--Relavant outpur from log file--
Log file opened on Mon Feb 25 20:26:57 2013
Host: Theory-Monster  pid: 8176  nodeid: 0  nnodes:  1
Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6
Precision:  single
Memory model:   32 bit
MPI library:thread_mpi
OpenMP support: enabled
GPU support:disabled
invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
FFT library:fftw-3.3.3-sse2
Large file support: enabled
RDTSCP usage:   enabled
Built on:   Mon, Feb 25, 2013 10:38:04 AM
Built by:   Mike@Theory-Monster [CMAKE]
Build OS/arch:  CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) i686
Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Build CPU family:   6   Model: 45   Stepping: 7
Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr 
nonstop_tsc pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 s

se4.1 sse4.2 ssse3 tdt x2apic
C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc.exe GNU gcc (GCC) 4.5.3
C compiler flags: -mavx -Wextra -Wno-missing-field-initializers 
-Wno-sign-compare -Wall -Wno-unused -Wunused-value -fomit-frame-pointer

-funroll-all-loops -fexcess-precision=fast  -O3 -DNDEBUG

Using 1 MPI thread

Detecting CPU-specific acceleration.
Present hardware specification:
Vendor: GenuineIntel
Brand:  Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Family:  6  Model: 45  Stepping:  7
Features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt lahf_lm mmx msr nonstop_tsc 
pcid pclmuldq pdcm pdpe1gb popcnt pse rdtscp sse2 sse3 sse4.1 sse4

.2 ssse3 tdt x2apic
Acceleration most likely to fit this hardware: AVX_256
Acceleration selected at GROMACS compile time: AVX_256

Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
Table routines are used for vdw: TRUE
Using shifted Lennard-Jones, switch between 0.9 and 1.2 nm
Cut-off's:   NS: 1.4   Coulomb: 1.2   LJ: 1.2
System total charge: 0.000
Generated table with 1200 data points for Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ6Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Generated table with 1200 data points for LJ12Shift.
Tabscale = 500 points/nm
Potential shift: LJ r^-12: 0.000 r^-6 0.000
Removing pbc first time

Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should support
setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.

Initializing LINear Constraint Solver

 PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE 
B. Hess
P-LINCS: A Parallel Linear Constraint Solver for molecular simulation
J. Chem. Theory Comput. 4 (2008) pp. 116-122
  --- Thank You ---  

The number of constraints is 840
414 constraints are involved in constraint triangles,
will apply an additional matrix expansion of order 4 for couplings
between constraints inside triangles
Center of mass motion removal mode is Linear
We have the following groups for center of mass motion removal:
 0:  rest

 PLEASE READ AND CITE THE FOLLOWING REFERENCE 
H. J. C. Berendsen, J. P. M. Postma, A. DiNola and J. R. Haak
Molecular dynamics with coupling to an external bath
J. Chem. Phys. 81 (1984) pp. 3684-3690
  --- Thank You ---  


***Trial 2***
mdrun -v -deffnm Clp_Test -ntmpi 1
Reading file Clp_Test.tpr, VERSION 4.6 (single precision)
Using 1 MPI thread

Can not set thread affinities on the current platform. On NUMA systems this
can cause performance degradation. If you think your platform should support
setting affinities, contact the GROMACS developers.
starting mdrun 'Martini system for ClpX'
1 steps,200.0 ps.

--Relavant outpur from log file--
Log file opened on Mon Feb 25 20:40:32 2013
Host: Theory-Monster  pid: 4624  nodeid: 0  nnodes:  1
Gromacs version:VERSION 4.6
Precision:  single
Memory model:   32 bit
MPI library:thread_mpi
OpenMP support: enabled
GPU support:disabled
invsqrt routine:gmx_software_invsqrt(x)
CPU acceleration:   AVX_256
FFT library:fftw-3.3.3-sse2
Large file support: enabled
RDTSCP usage:   enabled
Built on:   Mon, Feb 25, 2013 10:38:04 AM
Built by:   Mike@Theory-Monster [CMAKE]
Build OS/arch:  CYGWIN_NT-6.1-WOW64 1.7.17(0.262/5/3) i686
Build CPU vendor:   GenuineIntel
Build CPU brand:Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2687W 0 @ 3.10GHz
Build CPU family:   6   Model: 45   Stepping: 7
Build CPU features: aes apic avx clfsh cmov cx8 cx16 htt 

[gmx-users] Output for rmsd and radius of gyration doubts

2013-02-25 Thread Ewaru
Hi,

Just need some advice regarding the following results I obtained while
following the tutorial from this site, using a protein structure that I
modelled using Modeller.

http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/

1. My output plot of RMSD doesn't converge. (From 0 - 0.4ns, its around
0.25nm, 0.4 - 0.7, around 0.3nm, 0.7 - 1.0ns, around 0.35). Does it mean
that my EM wasn't properly done? Anyway, the EM did not reach the requested
Fmax <100.

2. My graph for Radius of gyration from 800 - 1000ps shows a higher
fluctuation than the ones from 0 - 800ps. Does it mean that the structure is
not that stable?

Please advice. (I followed exactly the steps in that tutorial. I'm new to
Gromacs.) And of course, I neutralized my protein according to the charge
needed. Not exactly following blindly from the tutorial. ;) 

Thank you very much in advance! :)


Best wishes. 



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Re: [gmx-users] Output for rmsd and radius of gyration doubts

2013-02-25 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 2/25/13 9:38 PM, Ewaru wrote:

Hi,

Just need some advice regarding the following results I obtained while
following the tutorial from this site, using a protein structure that I
modelled using Modeller.

http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/lysozyme/

1. My output plot of RMSD doesn't converge. (From 0 - 0.4ns, its around
0.25nm, 0.4 - 0.7, around 0.3nm, 0.7 - 1.0ns, around 0.35). Does it mean
that my EM wasn't properly done? Anyway, the EM did not reach the requested
Fmax <100.

2. My graph for Radius of gyration from 800 - 1000ps shows a higher
fluctuation than the ones from 0 - 800ps. Does it mean that the structure is
not that stable?

Please advice. (I followed exactly the steps in that tutorial. I'm new to
Gromacs.) And of course, I neutralized my protein according to the charge
needed. Not exactly following blindly from the tutorial. ;)



Please don't assume that 1 ns of MD for any system is actually meaningful, or 
that the results of some other protein will necessarily look anything like my 
example.  The commands in the tutorial are just to show how one might go about 
doing analysis and demonstrating a few tools that can be used.  Most protein 
systems require tens, if not hundreds, of ns to manifest the behavior of 
interest.  The results you've posted indicate nothing more than the fact that 
your protein isn't yet anywhere close to equilibrium, which is not at all 
unexpected.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] Re: Output for rmsd and radius of gyration doubts

2013-02-25 Thread Ewaru
Dear Justin,

Oh, no wonder. Thank you so much for your prompt reply! :)

Best wishes.



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Re: [gmx-users] Error during npt equilibration in coarse grained simulation

2013-02-25 Thread Anu Chandran
 Sir,
I have tried Berendsen barostat for Pcoupl. Still I get the same error.

Thank you,

 regards,
 Anu


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Justin Lemkul  wrote:

>
>
> On 2/25/13 12:16 AM, Anu Chandran wrote:
>
>> Dear users,
>> I am trying to do a coarse grained simulation of an octamer of a 350
>> residue protein in water using gromacs-4.5.3 using martini force field. I
>> got the following error when i started running NPT equilibration
>>
>> "Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
>> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
>> rms 16.561310, max 137.568573 (between atoms 626 and 627)
>> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>>   atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>>
>> Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
>> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
>> rms 438.087891, max 3717.233887 (between atoms 580 and 581)
>> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>>   atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>>  626627  121.90.2705  36.7207  0.2650
>>  621622   90.00.2756   0.4600  0.2700
>>  624626   91.50.3368 269.7515  0.3300
>>  621623   90.00.2756   0.3172  0.2700
>>  620624   90.40.3164 432.6003  0.3100
>>  622623   90.00.2756   0.3991  0.2700
>>  618620   85.50.3164 477.1006  0.3100
>>  626627  121.90.2705  36.7206  0.2650
>>  615618   88.60.3164 211.2461  0.3100
>>  607610  141.30.3164  14.3253  0.3100
>>
>> Step 32, time 0.64 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
>> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
>> rms 134.347206, max 2000.691284 (between atoms 4949 and 4946)
>> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>>   atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>>  610612  149.20.3164  17.6610  0.3100
>>  612614   89.70.3164   3.1394  0.3100
>>  614615  150.90.3164   9.9306  0.3100
>>  615618   88.60.3164 211.1131  0.3100
>>  618620   85.50.3164 477.0737  0.3100
>>  620624   90.40.3164 432.5994  0.3100
>> 4950   4949   75.80.3164 146.5132  0.3100
>>  624626   91.50.3368 269.7514  0.3300
>> 4952   4950  118.90.3164  14.6303  0.3100
>>  468469   90.00.2705  24.6834  0.2650
>> 4941   4939   90.00.3368   8.5601  0.3300
>>  585586   61.30.2756   0.3361  0.2700
>> 4944   4941   82.50.3164 206.9830  0.3100
>>  586587   90.10.2756   0.3137  0.2700
>> 4946   4944   90.00.3164 583.5660  0.3100
>>  606607   90.00.3368   6.6314  0.3300
>> 4949   4946   90.00.3164 620.5243  0.3100
>>  580581   91.90.4030 1003.9232  0.2700
>> 4954   4952   90.30.3164   1.6571  0.3100
>>  580582   89.80.2756 960.9988  0.2700
>>  582583   98.60.2756 592.0677  0.2700
>>  463464   90.00.2654   7.6858  0.2600
>>  581582   88.80.1280 193.0707  0.2700
>>  581583   91.30.2254 514.1149  0.2700
>> Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
>> Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
>> Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
>>
>>
>> Energy minimization and the NVT equilibration ran without any error or
>> warning. The mdp file used is as shown below;
>>
>> title= Martini
>> define   = -DPOSRES
>> integrator   = md
>> dt   = 0.02
>> nsteps   = 5
>> nstcomm  = 10
>> comm-grps=
>> nstxout  = 0
>> nstvout  = 0
>> nstfout  = 0
>> nstlog   = 1000
>> nstenergy= 100
>> nstxtcout= 1000
>> xtc_precision= 100
>> xtc-grps =
>> energygrps   = Protein W
>> nstlist  = 10
>> ns_type  = grid
>> pbc  = xyz
>> rlist= 1.4
>> coulombtype  = Shift
>> rcoulomb_switch  = 0.0
>> rcoulomb = 1.2
>> epsilon_r= 15
>> vdw_type = Shift
>> rvdw_switch  = 0.9
>> rvdw = 1.2
>> tcoupl   = v-rescale
>> tc-grps  = System
>> tau_t= 1.0
>> ref_t= 300
>> Pcoupl   = parrinello-rahman
>> Pcoupltype   = isotropic
>> tau_p= 5.0
>> compressibility  = 3e-4
>> ref_p= 1.0
>> gen_vel  = yes
>>
>
> If you ran NVT previously, regenerating velocities defeats that purpose
> and perturbs the system unnecessarily.  Further, Parrinello-Rahman is not
> very stable for initial equilibration; use Berendsen and then switch to P-R
> for data collec