[gmx-users] Create a elastic network model -attach a spring between to atoms with force constant

2012-08-06 Thread mohan maruthi sena
Hi all,
 I want to create an elastic network model for a protein,
in which  i  have selected only c-alpha atoms(removed rest of the
atoms). To attach a spring  between  alpha atoms with some
force(spring) constant k , How can i mention this  in topology file ?


Thanks,
 Mohan
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RE: [gmx-users] tutorials for Coarse-Grained MD Simulation

2012-08-06 Thread Marzinek, Jan
For MARTINI force field:

http://md.chem.rug.nl/cgmartini/index.php/tutorial

Jan


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Dear Gromacs Users,

I would like to know if there are any tutorials for Coarse-Grained MD
Simulation available anywhere.

Thanks

Peterson J



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Re: [gmx-users] Create a elastic network model -attach a spring between to atoms with force constant

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Abraham

On 6/08/2012 5:24 PM, mohan maruthi sena wrote:

Hi all,
  I want to create an elastic network model for a protein,
in which  i  have selected only c-alpha atoms(removed rest of the
atoms). To attach a spring  between  alpha atoms with some
force(spring) constant k , How can i mention this  in topology file ?


In principle, it's not difficult to do this, but you'll need to be well 
acquainted with various parts of chapters 4 and 5 of the manual, 
including the example topology files and table 5.5.


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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Adding New Residue to the Gromos 53.6 ff

2012-08-06 Thread James Starlight
Mark,


The main difficulties is that ATB's output is in the form like

 [ bonds ]
122   0.1000   1.8700e+07
132   0.1000   1.8700e+07

 [ angles ]
;  ai   aj   ak  funct   angle fc
2132109.50   380.00
2142109.50   425.00
3142109.50   425.00

 [ dihedrals ]
; GROMOS improper dihedrals
;  ai   aj   ak   al  funct   angle fc
78   1092  0.00   167.36
8   109   112  0.00   167.36
   109   1172  0.00   167.36

etc

here I must replace the number of atoms by the corresponded real atoms
but also replace the values for the bonds, angles and dihedrals by the
Gromacs type codes ( e.g gb_1 etc). This is very routinely for me yet
:)

I've sent the letter to the ATB's developments with the same
proposition to five RTP as the output which could be in some cases
more usefull that ITP.

James

2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :
> On 6/08/2012 4:11 PM, James Starlight wrote:
>> Mark,
>>
>>
>> I suppose that the most trivial way to include such external
>> topologies is the placement of the ITP file at the bottom of the
>> topol.top file ( and addition of two covalent bonds with the adjcent
>> residues in case of GFP chromophore ) like in any potein-ligan system.
>
> No, because bonded interactions can only occur within a [moleculetype].
>
>> I think that it must be some script foe convertion itp ro rtp because
>> both of that formats have a lot of differenties so the manually
>> editing in case of big HET group is very routinely.
>
> For the ~25 atoms of the GFP chromophore, given a reliable .itp of
> Ace-Gly-Cro-Gly-Nme or something, producing an .rtp entry by hand is a
> job of up to half an hour, if you understand the .rtp format.
> Particularly if the bonded interactions are from the main forcefield,
> you've only got to describe atom types, connectivity and charge.
>
> You could make a feature request of the ATB people for .rtp output
> (which might come with supplemental forcefield .itp files).
>
> Mark
>
>>
>> James
>>
>> 2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :
>>> On 6/08/2012 4:31 AM, James Starlight wrote:
 Mark,

 1) The error was because I've used topology of the CRO generated by
 the ATB in the ITP form in the RTP file.
>>> No, the error "Residue 'CRO' not found in residue topology database"
>>> means you haven't put it in the right place, but until you inspect your
>>> pdb2gmx output for clues about where it is looking, to help find where
>>> you haven't followed the right procedure, you're stuck. You've not told
>>> us your command line or shown us any significant output, so you really
>>> can't be helped.
>>>
 E.g in RTP file I've found that [ atoms ] is simple
 C C   0.450 1

 when in my ITP its more complicated
 7 C1CRO C150.089  12.0110

 the main difference is that RTP havent atom order where in IPT file
 the order of each group is specified.
 Is there any way to convert ITP back to RTP form ?
>>> No. You'll have to do it by hand.
>>>
 2) I've used specbond.dat to define covalent bonds between C and N
 termi of chromophore and corresponded termi of the djacent residues (
 in GFP chromophore is covalently linked in the midle of the alph helix
 of that protein in both ends)
>>> Sounds like a recipe for trouble, unless you know how to build a
>>> two-chain peptide with correct termini into the same [moleculetype], and
>>> get specbond.dat to work at the same time. It's possible, but why not
>>> use the built in mechanism for head-to-tail peptide linking?
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
 James

 2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :
> James Starlight wrote
>> Dear Gromac's users!
>>
>> I'm working with the GFP protein which has chromophore (CRO) group
>> which is covalently bonded to the protein. I want to add new residue
>> to the Gromos 53.6 ff. by means of algorithm described here.
>>
>>
>> For that I've coppied files to my local work dirr and modify all of
>> them in accordance to the above tutorial- I've coppied .itp of CRO to
>> the aminoacids.rtp
>>
>> [ CRO ]
>> [ atoms ]
>> etc
>>
>> I've defined bonds of the djacent real amino acids in the
>> specbond.dat
> Seems dangerous from my memory of GFP. You should probably be making a
> single residue for the whole chromophore, in which case a model that
> does
> not need specbond.dat is possible.
>
>
> James Starlight wrote
>> Finally I've defined CRO (as the protein) in the residuetypes.dat
>>
>> When I've try use pdb2gmx I've obtain error
>>
>> Fatal error:
>> Residue 'CRO' not found in residue topology database
>>
>>
>> What I've done wrong?
>>
> If
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Residue_'XXX'_not_found_in_residue_topology_database
> and its links don't help, you'll have to inspect carefu

Re: [gmx-users] Re: Adding New Residue to the Gromos 53.6 ff

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Abraham

On 6/08/2012 6:00 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Mark,


The main difficulties is that ATB's output is in the form like

  [ bonds ]
 122   0.1000   1.8700e+07
 132   0.1000   1.8700e+07

  [ angles ]
;  ai   aj   ak  funct   angle fc
 2132109.50   380.00
 2142109.50   425.00
 3142109.50   425.00

  [ dihedrals ]
; GROMOS improper dihedrals
;  ai   aj   ak   al  funct   angle fc
 78   1092  0.00   167.36
 8   109   112  0.00   167.36
109   1172  0.00   167.36

etc

here I must replace the number of atoms by the corresponded real atoms
but also replace the values for the bonds, angles and dihedrals by the
Gromacs type codes ( e.g gb_1 etc). This is very routinely for me yet
:)


You don't need to replace

122   0.1000   1.8700e+07


with stuff like

ConeCtwogb_234


Stuff like

ConeCtwo2   0.1000   1.8700e+07

is fine. gb_234 means "paste in the #define in the .itp file"... 
(seehttp://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Include_File_Mechanism) so no need to take it 
out to just paste it in again.  See discussion in manual 5.6.1, which of course you've 
read ;-)

Most of what you need to do is to map the atom numbers back to atom names. Most 
of the rest is doing the +N, -C stuff to use the standard peptide linking 
machinery.

Mark


I've sent the letter to the ATB's developments with the same
proposition to five RTP as the output which could be in some cases
more usefull that ITP.

James

2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :

On 6/08/2012 4:11 PM, James Starlight wrote:

Mark,


I suppose that the most trivial way to include such external
topologies is the placement of the ITP file at the bottom of the
topol.top file ( and addition of two covalent bonds with the adjcent
residues in case of GFP chromophore ) like in any potein-ligan system.

No, because bonded interactions can only occur within a [moleculetype].


I think that it must be some script foe convertion itp ro rtp because
both of that formats have a lot of differenties so the manually
editing in case of big HET group is very routinely.

For the ~25 atoms of the GFP chromophore, given a reliable .itp of
Ace-Gly-Cro-Gly-Nme or something, producing an .rtp entry by hand is a
job of up to half an hour, if you understand the .rtp format.
Particularly if the bonded interactions are from the main forcefield,
you've only got to describe atom types, connectivity and charge.

You could make a feature request of the ATB people for .rtp output
(which might come with supplemental forcefield .itp files).

Mark


James

2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :

On 6/08/2012 4:31 AM, James Starlight wrote:

Mark,

1) The error was because I've used topology of the CRO generated by
the ATB in the ITP form in the RTP file.

No, the error "Residue 'CRO' not found in residue topology database"
means you haven't put it in the right place, but until you inspect your
pdb2gmx output for clues about where it is looking, to help find where
you haven't followed the right procedure, you're stuck. You've not told
us your command line or shown us any significant output, so you really
can't be helped.


E.g in RTP file I've found that [ atoms ] is simple
C C   0.450 1

when in my ITP its more complicated
7 C1CRO C150.089  12.0110

the main difference is that RTP havent atom order where in IPT file
the order of each group is specified.
Is there any way to convert ITP back to RTP form ?

No. You'll have to do it by hand.


2) I've used specbond.dat to define covalent bonds between C and N
termi of chromophore and corresponded termi of the djacent residues (
in GFP chromophore is covalently linked in the midle of the alph helix
of that protein in both ends)

Sounds like a recipe for trouble, unless you know how to build a
two-chain peptide with correct termini into the same [moleculetype], and
get specbond.dat to work at the same time. It's possible, but why not
use the built in mechanism for head-to-tail peptide linking?

Mark


James

2012/8/5, Mark Abraham :

James Starlight wrote

Dear Gromac's users!

I'm working with the GFP protein which has chromophore (CRO) group
which is covalently bonded to the protein. I want to add new residue
to the Gromos 53.6 ff. by means of algorithm described here.


For that I've coppied files to my local work dirr and modify all of
them in accordance to the above tutorial- I've coppied .itp of CRO to
the aminoacids.rtp

[ CRO ]
[ atoms ]
etc

I've defined bonds of the djacent real amino acids in the
specbond.dat

Seems dangerous from my memory of GFP. You should probably be making a
single residue for the whole chromophore, in which case a model that
does
not need specbond.dat is possible.


James Starlight wrote

Finally I've defined CRO (as the protein) in the residuetypes.dat

When I've try use pdb2gmx I've obtain error

Fatal error:
Residue 'CRO' not found in re

[gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-06 Thread Acoot Brett
 Dear All,

I have a protein with about 400 amino acids. I have done a production MD of it. 
I find in the 400 amino acids, there is 1 amino acids, during the whole MD 
process, this residue moves in a extremely large scope in comparison with all 
the other residues.
Do you think this single residue with extremely large-scale movement in the 
whole MD has important biological function, or has no biological function?
I am looking forward to getting a reply from you.
Cheers,

Acoot  
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Re: [gmx-users] a residue move in extremely large scale in MD

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Abraham

On 6/08/2012 8:58 PM, Acoot Brett wrote:

  Dear All,

I have a protein with about 400 amino acids. I have done a production MD of it. 
I find in the 400 amino acids, there is 1 amino acids, during the whole MD 
process, this residue moves in a extremely large scope in comparison with all 
the other residues.
Do you think this single residue with extremely large-scale movement in the 
whole MD has important biological function, or has no biological function?


I'd start by proving that it was not a problem with periodic boundary 
conditions! If real, movement may or may not be indicative of functional 
significance - the question is impossible to answer out of context.


Mark
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[gmx-users] Compilation of Gromacs 4.5.5 with GPU support: libxml and CUDA toolkit problems

2012-08-06 Thread ms

Hi,

I am trying to compile Gromacs 4.5.5 with GPU support on Linux. I have 
performed the following steps:


export OPENMM_ROOT_DIR=/home//gromacs/OpenMM2.0-Linux64/
mkdir build-gpu
mkdir exec-gpu
cd build-gpu
cmake ../  -DGMX_OPENMM=ON -DFFTW3F_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/lib/include 
-DFFTW3F_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libfftw3f.a 
-DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=../exec-gpu -DGMX_X11=OFF 
-DGMX_PREFER_STATIC_LIBS=ON -DGMX_DEFAULT_SUFFIX=OFF 
-DGMX_BINARY_SUFFIX="_gpu" -DGMX_LIBS_SUFFIX="_gpu" -DGMX_DOUBLE=OFF 
-DGMX_MPI=OFF -DLIBXML_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/lib


but it fails with:

-- Using manually set binary suffix: "_gpu"
-- Using manually set library suffix: "_gpu"
-- checking for module 'libxml-2.0'
--   package 'libxml-2.0' not found
-- Could NOT find LibXml2 (missing:  LIBXML2_LIBRARIES LIBXML2_INCLUDE_DIR)
CMake Error at cmake/FindCUDA.cmake:465 (message):
  Specify CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR
Call Stack (most recent call first):
  CMakeLists.txt:434 (find_package)

For libxml2: I have libxml2.so.2 in /usr/lib
I tried the following:

- export LIBXML2_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/lib
- export LIBXML2_LIBRARIES=/usr/lib/libxml2.so.2
- adding -DLIBXML2_INCLUDE_DIR=/usr/lib

but it continues to fail.

About the CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR, I don't know where to find it honestly.

Any hint on how to find a solution?

Thanks a lot,
Massimo

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Re: [gmx-users] Hydroxyapatite MD odd behavior

2012-08-06 Thread Ramon Garduno
Justin,

Of course you are right, for troubleshooting the smaller, the better. However,
in order to build a hydroxyapaptite (HAP) slab we need the proper unit cell,
the later is by no means small.

In response to your comments, I will appreciate very much if you could examine
the PDB files related to the HAP geometry. They can be downloaded from
http://www.fis.unam.mx/~ramon/CursoDF/HAP/ They are named hap-2 and slab-2,
the first one corresponds to the unit cell from which we built the
slab (which is labed slab-2) upon which we want to study the peptide
interactions. The *.itp file I sent before corresponds to hap-2.

We hope that with this information you can help us in detecting the source of
the problem that has bother us for some time now...

Sorry for the delay in responding but I had problems sending the pdb files
through gmx-users...

Cheers, 

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:29:31 -0400, Justin Lemkul wrote
> On 7/27/12 8:54 PM, Ramon Garduno wrote:
> > Dear Justin,
> >
> > Thanks for your quick reply. Actually, we think that the topology is OK,
> > however HAP's parameters could be wrong, we are checking on this...
> >
> 
> I would say that the topology being OK and the parameters being 
> wrong are contradictory statements ;)
> 
> > These are the topology files used for HAP. The names associated to the atoms
> > present on the slab are:
> >
> 
> Can you reduce the system to just one molecule?  It appears there 
> are several molecules in the .itp below and it's quite hard to keep 
> track of everything without seeing the corresponding coordinate file 
> as well.  A single molecule would be a lot easier to deal with, and 
> a coordinate file would allow for better troubleshooting (the 
> smaller, the better).
> 
> -Justin
> 
> > ACa - Ca2+
> > AP   -  P
> > AO1 - O(P)
> > AO4 - O(H)
> > AH   - H
> >
> > 1- ffnonbonded.itp
> > [ atomtypes ]
> > ;name  at.num   mass  charge  ptype   c6   c12
> >ACa  40.0800 0.000 A  7.34375e-05   4.755341e-08
> > AP  30.9738 0.000 A  1.6701174e-03 2.9953696e-06
> >AO1  15.9994 0.000 A  1.8737825e-04 1.4573462e-07
> >AO4  15.9994 0.000 A  9.793663e-05  8.5730467e-08
> > AH  1.00800 0.000 A  7.17e-11  5.497e-16
> >
> > [ nonbond_params ]
> > ;  i   j   func c6   c12
> >   ACa  ACa  1  7.34375e-05   4.755341e-08
> >   ACa  AO4  1  8.480696e-05  6.38496e-08
> >   ACa   AH  1  7.2564e-085.112734e-12
> >   ACa  AO1  1  1.173055e-04  8.324769e-08
> >   ACa   AP  1  3.50213e-04   3.77223e-07
> >   AO4  AO4  1  1.8737825e-04 8.5730467e-08
> >   AO4   AH  1  8.37977e-08   6.864841e-12
> >   AO4  AO1  1  1.354666e-04  1.117761e-07
> >   AO4   AP  1  1.2789279e-03 5.0674888e-07
> >AH   AH  1  7.17e-11  5.497e-16
> >AH  AO1  1  1.159095e-07  8.950437e-12
> >AH   AP  1  3.460454e-07  4.057776e-11
> >   AO1  AO1  1  1.8737825e-04 1.4573462e-07
> >   AO1   AP  1  5.594137e-04  6.607035e-07
> >AP   AP  1  1.6701174e-03 2.9953696e-06
> >
> > 2- HAP-MODEL4-100.itp
> > ;; topology file for a HAP, created by Eduardo Villarreal & Ramon Garduno
> > ;; from hap.itp taken from diferente papers
> > ;; one can use Gromacs force-field files (ffgmx*.itp)
> > ;; If you use this topology file, please cite to Eduardo Villarreal & Ramon
> > Garduno
> > ;;
> >
> > [ moleculetype ]
> > ; Name   nrexcl
> > HAP  3
> >
> > [ atoms ]
> > ;aqui se hace coincidir cada atomo en la celda de unidad
> > ;   idatype   resnr resaneaname   cgnrcharge  mass
> >   1  AO1  1HAP  O3A   1-1.4000   15.9994
> >   2  AO1  1HAP  O3B   2-1.4000   15.9994
> >   3  AO1  1HAP  O3C   3-1.4000   15.9994
> >   4  AO1  1HAP  O3D   4-1.4000   15.9994
> >   5  AO1  1HAP  O3E   5-1.4000   15.9994
> >   6  AO1  1HAP  O3F   6-1.4000   15.9994
> >   7  AO1  1HAP  O3G   7-1.4000   15.9994
> >   8  AO1  1HAP  O3H   8-1.4000   15.9994
> >   9  AO1  1HAP  O3I   9-1.4000   15.9994
> >  10  AO1  1HAP  O3J  10-1.4000   15.9994
> >  11  AO1  1HAP  O3K  11-1.4000   15.9994
> >  12  AO1  1HAP  O3L  12-1.4000   15.9994
> >  13  AO1  1HAP  O3M   7-1.4000   15.9994
> >  14  AO1  1HAP  O3N   8-1.4000   15.9994
> >  15  AO1  1HAP  O3O   9-1.4000   15.9994
> >  16  AO1  1HAP  O3P  10-1.4000   15.9994
> >  17  AO1  1HAP  O3Q  11 

[gmx-users] Re: How to add new residue(LIG reisdue)? (Justin Lemkul)

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Lemkul


Please keep all Gromacs-related correspondence on the gmx-users mailing list.

On 8/6/12 1:47 PM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear Justin

I Know your reply.

But,
All my pdb file for each molecules contain LIG residue. What's LIG
residue? Why LIG residue exists in any pdb files,
I used avogadro software,
Please help me, i study normal alkanes behavior by means of molecular dynamic,



Only you know what "LIG" means.  That's probably just some generic designator 
for a ligand or small molecule.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Hydroxyapatite MD odd behavior

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/6/12 1:35 PM, Ramon Garduno wrote:

Justin,

Of course you are right, for troubleshooting the smaller, the better. However,
in order to build a hydroxyapaptite (HAP) slab we need the proper unit cell,
the later is by no means small.

In response to your comments, I will appreciate very much if you could examine
the PDB files related to the HAP geometry. They can be downloaded from
http://www.fis.unam.mx/~ramon/CursoDF/HAP/ They are named hap-2 and slab-2,
the first one corresponds to the unit cell from which we built the
slab (which is labed slab-2) upon which we want to study the peptide
interactions. The *.itp file I sent before corresponds to hap-2.

We hope that with this information you can help us in detecting the source of
the problem that has bother us for some time now...



Please provide all the necessary files, including topologies and modified force 
field files.  I don't have time to make and double-check all of these files and 
it's better to use exactly the same files you've been trying to use.



Sorry for the delay in responding but I had problems sending the pdb files
through gmx-users...



Attachments are no longer allowed due to recent viruses and spam.  Posting files 
for download from external sites is the only way to provide files (aside from 
copying and pasting their contents, but external download is probably easiest in 
many cases).


-Justin


Cheers,

On Fri, 27 Jul 2012 22:29:31 -0400, Justin Lemkul wrote

On 7/27/12 8:54 PM, Ramon Garduno wrote:

Dear Justin,

Thanks for your quick reply. Actually, we think that the topology is OK,
however HAP's parameters could be wrong, we are checking on this...



I would say that the topology being OK and the parameters being
wrong are contradictory statements ;)


These are the topology files used for HAP. The names associated to the atoms
present on the slab are:



Can you reduce the system to just one molecule?  It appears there
are several molecules in the .itp below and it's quite hard to keep
track of everything without seeing the corresponding coordinate file
as well.  A single molecule would be a lot easier to deal with, and
a coordinate file would allow for better troubleshooting (the
smaller, the better).

-Justin


ACa - Ca2+
AP   -  P
AO1 - O(P)
AO4 - O(H)
AH   - H

1- ffnonbonded.itp
[ atomtypes ]
;name  at.num   mass  charge  ptype   c6   c12
ACa  40.0800 0.000 A  7.34375e-05   4.755341e-08
 AP  30.9738 0.000 A  1.6701174e-03 2.9953696e-06
AO1  15.9994 0.000 A  1.8737825e-04 1.4573462e-07
AO4  15.9994 0.000 A  9.793663e-05  8.5730467e-08
 AH  1.00800 0.000 A  7.17e-11  5.497e-16

[ nonbond_params ]
;  i   j   func c6   c12
   ACa  ACa  1  7.34375e-05   4.755341e-08
   ACa  AO4  1  8.480696e-05  6.38496e-08
   ACa   AH  1  7.2564e-085.112734e-12
   ACa  AO1  1  1.173055e-04  8.324769e-08
   ACa   AP  1  3.50213e-04   3.77223e-07
   AO4  AO4  1  1.8737825e-04 8.5730467e-08
   AO4   AH  1  8.37977e-08   6.864841e-12
   AO4  AO1  1  1.354666e-04  1.117761e-07
   AO4   AP  1  1.2789279e-03 5.0674888e-07
AH   AH  1  7.17e-11  5.497e-16
AH  AO1  1  1.159095e-07  8.950437e-12
AH   AP  1  3.460454e-07  4.057776e-11
   AO1  AO1  1  1.8737825e-04 1.4573462e-07
   AO1   AP  1  5.594137e-04  6.607035e-07
AP   AP  1  1.6701174e-03 2.9953696e-06

2- HAP-MODEL4-100.itp
;; topology file for a HAP, created by Eduardo Villarreal & Ramon Garduno
;; from hap.itp taken from diferente papers
;; one can use Gromacs force-field files (ffgmx*.itp)
;; If you use this topology file, please cite to Eduardo Villarreal & Ramon
Garduno
;;

[ moleculetype ]
; Name   nrexcl
HAP  3

[ atoms ]
;aqui se hace coincidir cada atomo en la celda de unidad
;   idatype   resnr resaneaname   cgnrcharge  mass
   1  AO1  1HAP  O3A   1-1.4000   15.9994
   2  AO1  1HAP  O3B   2-1.4000   15.9994
   3  AO1  1HAP  O3C   3-1.4000   15.9994
   4  AO1  1HAP  O3D   4-1.4000   15.9994
   5  AO1  1HAP  O3E   5-1.4000   15.9994
   6  AO1  1HAP  O3F   6-1.4000   15.9994
   7  AO1  1HAP  O3G   7-1.4000   15.9994
   8  AO1  1HAP  O3H   8-1.4000   15.9994
   9  AO1  1HAP  O3I   9-1.4000   15.9994
  10  AO1  1HAP  O3J  10-1.4000   15.9994
  11  AO1  1HAP  O3K  11-1.4000   15.9994
  12  AO1  1HAP  O3L  12-1.4000   15.9994
  13  AO1  1HAP  O3M   7-1.4000   15.9994
   

Re: [gmx-users] Hydroxyapatite MD odd behavior

2012-08-06 Thread Ramon Garduno
On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:52:46 -0400, Justin Lemkul wrote

> Please provide all the necessary files, including topologies and 
> modified force field files.  I don't have time to make and double-
> check all of these files and it's better to use exactly the same 
> files you've been trying to use.
> 

Dear Justin,

Thank you for your prompt response and willingness to help us...

Since we do not have problems with the protein-water system, we decided to
look closely to what happens with the slab during the NVT simulation. Thus, I
have placed in http://www.fis.unam.mx/~ramon/CursoDF/HAP/ for download all the
files we are using (at your request) to analyze the extrange behavior observed
on the tetrahedral phosphate ion.

Hopefuly your trained eyes can see what we can not...

Cheers,
Ramon Garduno
UNAM, Instituto de Ciencias Fisicas
Cuernavaca, Mexico


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Re: [gmx-users] Hydroxyapatite MD odd behavior

2012-08-06 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 8/6/12 3:13 PM, Ramon Garduno wrote:

On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 13:52:46 -0400, Justin Lemkul wrote


Please provide all the necessary files, including topologies and
modified force field files.  I don't have time to make and double-
check all of these files and it's better to use exactly the same
files you've been trying to use.



Dear Justin,

Thank you for your prompt response and willingness to help us...

Since we do not have problems with the protein-water system, we decided to
look closely to what happens with the slab during the NVT simulation. Thus, I
have placed in http://www.fis.unam.mx/~ramon/CursoDF/HAP/ for download all the
files we are using (at your request) to analyze the extrange behavior observed
on the tetrahedral phosphate ion.

Hopefuly your trained eyes can see what we can not...



Immediately there is a problem.  Your cutoff values in the .mdp files (which are 
incorrect for Gromos96 53A6) are larger than the size of the small system will 
permit, causing grompp to fail with a fatal error.  If you're overriding this 
error with -maxwarn, then you're trying to simulate an unreasonable system since 
it violates the minimum image convention.


If you're working with other systems that are larger or different, please 
provide those files instead.  I've already had to make a large number of 
corrections to these files (mostly in atom naming/capitalization) to get grompp 
to even run, so parsing out those errors is somewhat annoying.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] NMA and g_nmeig segmentation fault

2012-08-06 Thread Michael Howard
Hello All -- I'm trying to do a normal modes analysis of a fairly
large crystal system (~20,000 atoms) in double-precision GROMACS. The
system is xy periodic with 2 9-3 walls, and has periodic molecules. I
first minimized the structure with L-BFGS to 1e-5 tolerance with
switched vdW interactions and PME electrostatics (3dc geometry).

When I tried to run g_nmeig on the matrix, I received the following
error message from the shell

/var/spool/pbs/mom_priv/jobs/2480011.lionxj.rcc.psu.edu.SC: line 7:
3205 Segmentation fault  g_nmeig_d -f wall3_nm -s wall3_nm -T 300
-first 1 -last 2 -of wall3_efreq -ol wall3_eigval -v wall3_eigvec
>&nm.g_nmeig

The last thing written to the g_nmeig output is
Reading file wall3_nm.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Reading file wall3_nm.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Reading double precision matrix generated by Gromacs VERSION 4.5.5

I was able to successfully run NMA using the same code on a similar
system that was only 1/3 of the current size (reaction-field-zero
electrostatics) and also on a system 1/3 of the size with xyz
periodicity and PME electrostatics, and received no segmentation fault
error. I'm a little bit baffled about the source of the segmentation
error, because I would have expected it to crash during the Hessian
calculation if there were a problem with allocating system memory or
essentially singular forces. Has anyone else encountered a similar
problem?

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Re: [gmx-users] NMA and g_nmeig segmentation fault

2012-08-06 Thread Mark Abraham

On 7/08/2012 7:07 AM, Michael Howard wrote:

Hello All -- I'm trying to do a normal modes analysis of a fairly
large crystal system (~20,000 atoms) in double-precision GROMACS. The
system is xy periodic with 2 9-3 walls, and has periodic molecules. I
first minimized the structure with L-BFGS to 1e-5 tolerance with
switched vdW interactions and PME electrostatics (3dc geometry).

When I tried to run g_nmeig on the matrix, I received the following
error message from the shell

/var/spool/pbs/mom_priv/jobs/2480011.lionxj.rcc.psu.edu.SC: line 7:
3205 Segmentation fault  g_nmeig_d -f wall3_nm -s wall3_nm -T 300
-first 1 -last 2 -of wall3_efreq -ol wall3_eigval -v wall3_eigvec

&nm.g_nmeig

The last thing written to the g_nmeig output is
Reading file wall3_nm.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Reading file wall3_nm.tpr, VERSION 4.5.5 (double precision)
Reading double precision matrix generated by Gromacs VERSION 4.5.5

I was able to successfully run NMA using the same code on a similar
system that was only 1/3 of the current size (reaction-field-zero
electrostatics) and also on a system 1/3 of the size with xyz
periodicity and PME electrostatics, and received no segmentation fault
error. I'm a little bit baffled about the source of the segmentation
error, because I would have expected it to crash during the Hessian
calculation if there were a problem with allocating system memory or
essentially singular forces. Has anyone else encountered a similar
problem?


Diagonalizing the Hessian requires memory proportional to N^2, so your 
symptoms seem consistent with not having enough memory for the job. You 
can probably probe for this by using only part of the system, or single 
precision, more virtual memory, or a bigger machine.


Mark
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[gmx-users] RE: tutorials for Coarse-Grained MD Simulation

2012-08-06 Thread J Peterson
Dear Jan,

Thanks for the link. The tutorials available here are very helpful start
preparing the systems for simulation but would like to know how to merge the
custom version of Gromacs for CG available in Martini web site with my
existing Gromacs installation.

Moreover how to make use of all the available Martini files and programs
with the recent version of GROMACS that is version 4?


Thanks,

Peterson J



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