[gmx-users] FATAL ERROR: Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database.

2012-07-31 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear All usres:

I am trying to do a simple system that contains 4 molecules ethane and
MD run using GROMACS. I build my .pdb file by using Avogadro software
. Afterwards, I try to generate the topology and .gro file using
pdb2gmx program and it generates an error. I am using the 43a1 force
field.


COMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1  C   LIG 1  -1.328   5.677  -0.487  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM2  C   LIG 1   0.160   5.696  -0.216  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM3  C   LIG 2  -2.612   1.541  -0.437  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM4  C   LIG 2  -1.247   1.959   0.060  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM5  C   LIG 3  -0.924  -2.018   0.494  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM6  C   LIG 3   0.583  -1.901   0.467  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM7  C   LIG 4   0.836  -5.626  -0.170  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM8  C   LIG 4   2.339  -5.464  -0.149  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM9  H   LIG 1  -1.676   6.669  -0.790  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   10  H   LIG 1  -1.878   5.379   0.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   11  H   LIG 1  -1.564   4.970  -1.287  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   12  H   LIG 1   0.396   6.406   0.582  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   13  H   LIG 1   0.710   5.990  -1.115  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   14  H   LIG 1   0.508   4.705   0.091  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   15  H   LIG 2  -3.153   2.402  -0.840  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   16  H   LIG 2  -3.203   1.113   0.378  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   17  H   LIG 2  -2.520   0.790  -1.227  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   18  H   LIG 2  -0.651   2.374  -0.758  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   19  H   LIG 2  -0.709   1.102   0.476  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   20  H   LIG 2  -1.338   2.717   0.843  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   21  H   LIG 3  -1.230  -3.068   0.452  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   22  H   LIG 3  -1.365  -1.498  -0.362  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   23  H   LIG 3  -1.328  -1.578   1.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   24  H   LIG 3   0.891  -0.853   0.527  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   25  H   LIG 3   0.984  -2.323  -0.459  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   26  H   LIG 3   1.025  -2.438   1.312  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   27  H   LIG 4   2.612  -4.409  -0.060  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   28  H   LIG 4   2.771  -6.003   0.699  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   29  H   LIG 4   2.781  -5.858  -1.069  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   30  H   LIG 4   0.564  -6.681  -0.264  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   31  H   LIG 4   0.394  -5.238   0.753  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   32  H   LIG 4   0.402  -5.082  -1.015  1.00  0.00   H
END


FATAL ERROR: Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database.

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Re: [gmx-users] FATAL ERROR: Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database.

2012-07-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/31/12 7:48 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:

Dear All usres:

I am trying to do a simple system that contains 4 molecules ethane and
MD run using GROMACS. I build my .pdb file by using Avogadro software
. Afterwards, I try to generate the topology and .gro file using
pdb2gmx program and it generates an error. I am using the 43a1 force
field.



pdb2gmx isn't magic:

http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#Residue_'XXX'_not_found_in_residue_topology_database

-Justin



COMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1  C   LIG 1  -1.328   5.677  -0.487  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM2  C   LIG 1   0.160   5.696  -0.216  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM3  C   LIG 2  -2.612   1.541  -0.437  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM4  C   LIG 2  -1.247   1.959   0.060  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM5  C   LIG 3  -0.924  -2.018   0.494  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM6  C   LIG 3   0.583  -1.901   0.467  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM7  C   LIG 4   0.836  -5.626  -0.170  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM8  C   LIG 4   2.339  -5.464  -0.149  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM9  H   LIG 1  -1.676   6.669  -0.790  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   10  H   LIG 1  -1.878   5.379   0.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   11  H   LIG 1  -1.564   4.970  -1.287  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   12  H   LIG 1   0.396   6.406   0.582  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   13  H   LIG 1   0.710   5.990  -1.115  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   14  H   LIG 1   0.508   4.705   0.091  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   15  H   LIG 2  -3.153   2.402  -0.840  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   16  H   LIG 2  -3.203   1.113   0.378  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   17  H   LIG 2  -2.520   0.790  -1.227  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   18  H   LIG 2  -0.651   2.374  -0.758  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   19  H   LIG 2  -0.709   1.102   0.476  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   20  H   LIG 2  -1.338   2.717   0.843  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   21  H   LIG 3  -1.230  -3.068   0.452  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   22  H   LIG 3  -1.365  -1.498  -0.362  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   23  H   LIG 3  -1.328  -1.578   1.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   24  H   LIG 3   0.891  -0.853   0.527  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   25  H   LIG 3   0.984  -2.323  -0.459  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   26  H   LIG 3   1.025  -2.438   1.312  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   27  H   LIG 4   2.612  -4.409  -0.060  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   28  H   LIG 4   2.771  -6.003   0.699  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   29  H   LIG 4   2.781  -5.858  -1.069  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   30  H   LIG 4   0.564  -6.681  -0.264  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   31  H   LIG 4   0.394  -5.238   0.753  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   32  H   LIG 4   0.402  -5.082  -1.015  1.00  0.00   H
END


FATAL ERROR: Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database.

Sincerely



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[gmx-users] FATAL ERROR Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database?

2012-07-31 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear All usres:

I am trying to do a simple system that contains 4 molecules ethane and
MD run using GROMACS. I build my .pdb file by using Avogadro software
. Afterwards, I try to generate the topology and .gro file using
pdb2gmx program and it generates an error. I am using the 43a1 force
field.


COMPNDUNNAMED
AUTHORGENERATED BY OPEN BABEL 2.3.0
HETATM1  C   LIG 1  -1.328   5.677  -0.487  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM2  C   LIG 1   0.160   5.696  -0.216  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM3  C   LIG 2  -2.612   1.541  -0.437  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM4  C   LIG 2  -1.247   1.959   0.060  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM5  C   LIG 3  -0.924  -2.018   0.494  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM6  C   LIG 3   0.583  -1.901   0.467  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM7  C   LIG 4   0.836  -5.626  -0.170  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM8  C   LIG 4   2.339  -5.464  -0.149  1.00  0.00   C
HETATM9  H   LIG 1  -1.676   6.669  -0.790  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   10  H   LIG 1  -1.878   5.379   0.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   11  H   LIG 1  -1.564   4.970  -1.287  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   12  H   LIG 1   0.396   6.406   0.582  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   13  H   LIG 1   0.710   5.990  -1.115  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   14  H   LIG 1   0.508   4.705   0.091  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   15  H   LIG 2  -3.153   2.402  -0.840  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   16  H   LIG 2  -3.203   1.113   0.378  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   17  H   LIG 2  -2.520   0.790  -1.227  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   18  H   LIG 2  -0.651   2.374  -0.758  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   19  H   LIG 2  -0.709   1.102   0.476  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   20  H   LIG 2  -1.338   2.717   0.843  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   21  H   LIG 3  -1.230  -3.068   0.452  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   22  H   LIG 3  -1.365  -1.498  -0.362  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   23  H   LIG 3  -1.328  -1.578   1.410  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   24  H   LIG 3   0.891  -0.853   0.527  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   25  H   LIG 3   0.984  -2.323  -0.459  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   26  H   LIG 3   1.025  -2.438   1.312  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   27  H   LIG 4   2.612  -4.409  -0.060  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   28  H   LIG 4   2.771  -6.003   0.699  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   29  H   LIG 4   2.781  -5.858  -1.069  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   30  H   LIG 4   0.564  -6.681  -0.264  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   31  H   LIG 4   0.394  -5.238   0.753  1.00  0.00   H
HETATM   32  H   LIG 4   0.402  -5.082  -1.015  1.00  0.00   H
END


FATAL ERROR: Residue "LIG" not found in residue topology database.

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[gmx-users] make_ndx: duplicates groups appearing in index.ndx file

2012-07-31 Thread Laura Kingsley

Hello,

I've just switched from using Gromacs version 4.0.5 to 4.5.5, and I'm 
having an issue with make_ndx. Using the old version I have a single 
group showing up for each "odd" residue, eg JJJ shows up once as group 
16 for example. When I use the new version on the same file I get 2 
groups appearing for residue JJJ and others. Here is the output of that 
I get from make_ndx. Is there some way I can prevent this?


 0 System  : 126928 atoms
  1 Other   :   137 atoms
  2 NGL : 9 atoms
  3 CY1 :10 atoms
  4 CAR :25 atoms
  5 HEM :73 atoms
  6 JJJ : 1 atoms
  7 CPZ :19 atoms
  8 Cl  : 6 atoms
  9 Protein :  7475 atoms
 10 Protein-H   :  3733 atoms
 11 C-alpha :   461 atoms
 12 Backbone:  1383 atoms
 13 MainChain   :  1844 atoms
 14 MainChain+Cb:  2275 atoms
 15 MainChain+H :  2275 atoms
 16 SideChain   :  5200 atoms
 17 SideChain-H :  1889 atoms
 18 Prot-Masses :  7475 atoms
 19 non-Protein : 119453 atoms
 20 Water   : 119310 atoms
 21 SOL : 119310 atoms
 22 non-Water   :  7618 atoms
 23 Ion : 6 atoms
 24 NGL : 9 atoms
 25 CY1 :10 atoms
 26 CAR :25 atoms
 27 HEM :73 atoms
 28 JJJ : 1 atoms
 29 CPZ :19 atoms
 30 Cl  : 6 atoms
 31 Water_and_ions  : 119316 atoms


Thanks,

- Laura

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Re: [gmx-users] make_ndx: duplicates groups appearing in index.ndx file

2012-07-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/31/12 10:14 AM, Laura Kingsley wrote:

Hello,

I've just switched from using Gromacs version 4.0.5 to 4.5.5, and I'm having an
issue with make_ndx. Using the old version I have a single group showing up for
each "odd" residue, eg JJJ shows up once as group 16 for example. When I use the
new version on the same file I get 2 groups appearing for residue JJJ and
others. Here is the output of that I get from make_ndx. Is there some way I can
prevent this?



Repeated groups are normal, but certainly undesirable. Since there is nothing 
functionally wrong with these groups, it's a rather low-priority bug and has 
been around since Gromacs 4.5 (so several years). The only way to prevent the 
duplicate groups would be to create an index file that eliminates the duplicates.


-Justin


  0 System  : 126928 atoms
   1 Other   :   137 atoms
   2 NGL : 9 atoms
   3 CY1 :10 atoms
   4 CAR :25 atoms
   5 HEM :73 atoms
   6 JJJ : 1 atoms
   7 CPZ :19 atoms
   8 Cl  : 6 atoms
   9 Protein :  7475 atoms
  10 Protein-H   :  3733 atoms
  11 C-alpha :   461 atoms
  12 Backbone:  1383 atoms
  13 MainChain   :  1844 atoms
  14 MainChain+Cb:  2275 atoms
  15 MainChain+H :  2275 atoms
  16 SideChain   :  5200 atoms
  17 SideChain-H :  1889 atoms
  18 Prot-Masses :  7475 atoms
  19 non-Protein : 119453 atoms
  20 Water   : 119310 atoms
  21 SOL : 119310 atoms
  22 non-Water   :  7618 atoms
  23 Ion : 6 atoms
  24 NGL : 9 atoms
  25 CY1 :10 atoms
  26 CAR :25 atoms
  27 HEM :73 atoms
  28 JJJ : 1 atoms
  29 CPZ :19 atoms
  30 Cl  : 6 atoms
  31 Water_and_ions  : 119316 atoms


Thanks,

- Laura



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[gmx-users] Isothermal compressibility for polymers - regd

2012-07-31 Thread ramesh cheerla
Dear GMX users,

  How one can calculate Isothermal
compressibility for given system ( eg : Materials like polymers )
using gromacs.

Thank you in advance.


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[gmx-users] Double X Simple precision

2012-07-31 Thread marcelodepolo
Hi folks!

I'm running Gromacs in double precision to minimize my system until 10^-4
kcal/mol.nm 'cause it's too much unstable. Unfortunately, my system is huge
and double precision make the simulation slower.

My question is: can I run minimization process in double precision and
simulation itself in simple??

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[gmx-users] Re: Double X Simple precision

2012-07-31 Thread markabraham

marcelodepolo wrote
> 
> I'm running Gromacs in double precision to minimize my system until 10^-4
> kcal/mol.nm 'cause it's too much unstable. Unfortunately, my system is
> huge and double precision make the simulation slower.
> 
> My question is: can I run minimization process in double precision and
> simulation itself in simple??

Yes. This may not help your problem. See
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up

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[gmx-users] Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms

2012-07-31 Thread Thales Kronenberger
Hello Everybody

I'm running a production simulation of a kinase (after minimization
and equilibration) and after concluded 20ns I got the following
problem when I tryied to run g_rmsf

"Fatal error:
Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms (4005).
You are probably trying to use a trajectory which does not match the
first 4005 atoms of the run input file.
You can make a matching run input file with tpbconv.
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors";

I insert ions in the PDB and ATP. My ion's topology were included as:
"#include "WT_Other_chain_A2.itp", #include "WT_Other_chain_B2.itp"".
I don't know if they're causing the trouble.

tks for help
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[gmx-users] Re: Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms

2012-07-31 Thread Mark Abraham

Thales Kronenberger wrote
> 
> Hello Everybody
> 
> I'm running a production simulation of a kinase (after minimization
> and equilibration) and after concluded 20ns I got the following
> problem when I tryied to run g_rmsf
> 
> "Fatal error:
> Molecule in topology has atom numbers below and above natoms (4005).
> You are probably trying to use a trajectory which does not match the
> first 4005 atoms of the run input file.
> You can make a matching run input file with tpbconv.
> For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
> GROMACS
> website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors";
> 
> I insert ions in the PDB and ATP. My ion's topology were included as:
> "#include "WT_Other_chain_A2.itp", #include "WT_Other_chain_B2.itp"".
> I don't know if they're causing the trouble
> 

They aren't. But like the error message says, until you know what the
coordinates in your trajectory file represent, and how that relates to the
run input file you gave to g_rmsf it will be a mystery.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Shima Arasteh
Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.

What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of 
grompp, then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple 
interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the 
investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and 
.  .
If anybody has suggestion, it would be appreciated.


Sincerely,
Shima



From: Shima Arasteh 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users  
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

I edited the grompp output and sent it to you. Bring that again here:
  Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
 Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
 Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations

 ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
      No default Bond types


 ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
      No default U-B types


 ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
      No default U-B types


 ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
      No default Proper Dih. types


 ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
      No default Proper Dih. types

 ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
      No default Improper Dih. types

And wrote line 414 is :
line 414 of topol.tp:
   [bonds]
         1     2     1



Sincerely,
Shima



From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users  
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)
>
> I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
> Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
> needed again:
>
>> 1. rtp entry
>>
>> [ FVAL ]
>   [ atoms ]
>      CN    C     0.357    0
>      ON    O    -0.51    1
>      H1    HA    0.100    2
>      N    NH1    -0.423    3
>      HN    H    0.333    4
>      CA    CT1    0.034    5
>      HA    HB    0.09    6
>      CB    CT1    -0.093    7
>      HB    HA    0.09    8
>      CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
>      HG11    HA    0.09    10
>      HG12    HA    0.09    11
>      HG13    HA    0.09    12
>      CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
>      HG21    HA    0.09    14
>      HG22    HA    0.09    15
>      HG23    HA    0.09    16
>      C    C    0.528    17
>      O    O    -0.510    18
>   [ bonds ]
>      CN    H1
>      CN    ON
>      CN    N
>      N    HN
>      CA    N
>      CA    HA
>      CA    C
>      C    O
>      CA    CB
>      CB    HB
>      CB    CG1
>      CB    CG2
>      CG2    HG21
>      CG2    HG22
>      CG2    HG23
>      CG1    HG11
>      CG1    HG12
>      CG1    HG13
>      
>   [ impropers ]
>      CN     N    ON    H1
>
>> 2. hdb entry
> In which file?
> *aminoacids.hdb
>
>
>> FVAL    6
>> 1    1    H1    CN    N    ON
> This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...
>
>> 1    1    HN    N    C    CA
>> 1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
>> 1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
>> 3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
>> 3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA
>>
>> 3. N-terminal fragment
>> HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1      -0.721   1.600   1.249
>> HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1      -0.839   2.806   1.453
>> ATOM      3  N   FVAL    1      -1.227   0.728   2.125
>> ATOM      4  CA  FVAL    1      -1.918   1.159   3.323
>> ATOM      5  C   FVAL    1      -1.969   2.678   3.410
>> ATOM      6  O   FVAL    1      -0.931   3.335   3.447
>> ATOM      7  CB  FVAL    1      -1.219   0.644   4.576
>> ATOM      8  CG1 FVAL    1       0.208   1.178   4.618
>> ATOM      9  CG2 FVAL    1      -1.976   1.118   5.812
>>
>> 4. pdb2gmx command
>> #pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter
>>
>> 5. pdb2gmx output
> Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff
>
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
> Reading monomer.pdb...
> Read 177 atoms
> Analyzing pdb file
> Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
> There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms
>
>    chain  #res #atoms
>    1 ' '    24    177
>
> All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
> Atomtype 1
> Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.rtp
> Residue 42
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/dna.rtp
> Residue 46
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/lipids.rtp
> Residue 82
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.rtp
> Residue 86
> Sorting it all out...
> Opening force field file ./charmm

Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/31/12 5:21 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.

What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of 
grompp, then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple 
interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the 
investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and 
.  .
If anybody has suggestion, it would be appreciated.



You shouldn't delete lines from the topology.  The errors indicate that the 
interaction types you have defined do not exist in the force field.  You need to 
add suitable values, either by analogy to existing parameters or by a suitable 
derivation protocol.


I would not trust any results from a topology that has been haphazardly modified 
in this way.  You may get rid of the grompp warnings, but you also get rid of 
reliability.


-Justin



Sincerely,
Shima



From: Shima Arasteh 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

I edited the grompp output and sent it to you. Bring that again here:
   Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
  Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations

  ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
   No default Bond types


  ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
   No default U-B types


  ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
   No default U-B types


  ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
   No default Proper Dih. types


  ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
   No default Proper Dih. types

  ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
   No default Improper Dih. types

And wrote line 414 is :
line 414 of topol.tp:
[bonds]
  1 2 1



Sincerely,
Shima



From: Mark Abraham 
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:

Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)

I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
needed again:


1. rtp entry

[ FVAL ]

[ atoms ]
   CNC 0.3570
   ONO-0.511
   H1HA0.1002
   NNH1-0.4233
   HNH0.3334
   CACT10.0345
   HAHB0.096
   CBCT1-0.0937
   HBHA0.098
   CG1CT3-0.2689
   HG11HA0.0910
   HG12HA0.0911
   HG13HA0.0912
   CG2CT3-0.26813
   HG21HA0.0914
   HG22HA0.0915
   HG23HA0.0916
   CC0.52817
   OO-0.51018
[ bonds ]
   CNH1
   CNON
   CNN
   NHN
   CAN
   CAHA
   CAC
   CO
   CACB
   CBHB
   CBCG1
   CBCG2
   CG2HG21
   CG2HG22
   CG2HG23
   CG1HG11
   CG1HG12
   CG1HG13

[ impropers ]
   CN NONH1


2. hdb entry

In which file?
*aminoacids.hdb



FVAL6
11H1CNNON

This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...


11HNNCCA
15HACANCCB
15HBCBCACG1CG2
34HG1CG1CBCA
34HG2CG2CBCA

3. N-terminal fragment
HETATM1  CN  FVAL1  -0.721   1.600   1.249
HETATM2  ON  FVAL1  -0.839   2.806   1.453
ATOM  3  N   FVAL1  -1.227   0.728   2.125
ATOM  4  CA  FVAL1  -1.918   1.159   3.323
ATOM  5  C   FVAL1  -1.969   2.678   3.410
ATOM  6  O   FVAL1  -0.931   3.335   3.447
ATOM  7  CB  FVAL1  -1.219   0.644   4.576
ATOM  8  CG1 FVAL1   0.208   1.178   4.618
ATOM  9  CG2 FVAL1  -1.976   1.118   5.812

4. pdb2gmx command
#pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter

5. pdb2gmx output

Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./charmm36-modified.ff

Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/aminoacids.r2b
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/rna.r2b
Reading monomer.pdb...
Read 177 atoms
Analyzing pdb file
Splitting chemical chains based on TER records or chain id changing.
There are 1 chains and 0 blocks of water and 24 residues with 177 atoms

 chain  #res #atoms
 1 ' '24177

All occupancy fields zero. This is probably not an X-Ray structure
Opening force field file ./charmm36-modified.ff/atomtypes.atp
Atomtype 1
Reading residue database... (charmm36-modified)
Opening force field file ./charmm36-m

Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Shima Arasteh


 All right. Thanks.


Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Justin Lemkul 
To: Shima Arasteh ; Discussion list for GROMACS 
users 
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:04 AM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up



On 7/31/12 5:21 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
> Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.
>
> What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
> I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of 
> grompp, then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple 
> interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the 
> investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and 
> .  .
> If anybody has suggestion, it would be appreciated.
>

You shouldn't delete lines from the topology.  The errors indicate that the 
interaction types you have defined do not exist in the force field.  You need 
to 
add suitable values, either by analogy to existing parameters or by a suitable 
derivation protocol.

I would not trust any results from a topology that has been haphazardly 
modified 
in this way.  You may get rid of the grompp warnings, but you also get rid of 
reliability.

-Justin

>
> Sincerely,
> Shima
>
>
> 
> From: Shima Arasteh 
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:49 AM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up
>
> I edited the grompp output and sent it to you. Bring that again here:
>    Generated 21528 of the 21528 non-bonded parameter combinations
>   Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 1
>   Generated 18355 of the 21528 1-4 parameter combinations
>
>   ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
>        No default Bond types
>
>
>   ERROR 2 [file topol.top, line 1698]:
>        No default U-B types
>
>
>   ERROR 3 [file topol.top, line 1699]:
>        No default U-B types
>
>
>   ERROR 4 [file topol.top, line 2345]:
>        No default Proper Dih. types
>
>
>   ERROR 5 [file topol.top, line 2346]:
>        No default Proper Dih. types
>
>   ERROR 6 [file topol.top, line 3278]:
>        No default Improper Dih. types
>
> And wrote line 414 is :
> line 414 of topol.tp:
>     [bonds]
>           1     2     1
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Shima
>
>
> 
> From: Mark Abraham 
> To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Diagnosing + system blowing up
>
> On 31/07/2012 7:16 AM, Shima Arasteh wrote:
>> Wow!  That was a fabulous explanation given to me. Thanks dear Mark! :-)
>>
>> I regenerated the topol.top to check the correctness of input and FF files. 
>> Some output has been changed however a little bit. Now, I bring you all was 
>> needed again:
>>
>>> 1. rtp entry
>>>
>>> [ FVAL ]
>>     [ atoms ]
>>        CN    C     0.357    0
>>        ON    O    -0.51    1
>>        H1    HA    0.100    2
>>        N    NH1    -0.423    3
>>        HN    H    0.333    4
>>        CA    CT1    0.034    5
>>        HA    HB    0.09    6
>>        CB    CT1    -0.093    7
>>        HB    HA    0.09    8
>>        CG1    CT3    -0.268    9
>>        HG11    HA    0.09    10
>>        HG12    HA    0.09    11
>>        HG13    HA    0.09    12
>>        CG2    CT3    -0.268    13
>>        HG21    HA    0.09    14
>>        HG22    HA    0.09    15
>>        HG23    HA    0.09    16
>>        C    C    0.528    17
>>        O    O    -0.510    18
>>     [ bonds ]
>>        CN    H1
>>        CN    ON
>>        CN    N
>>        N    HN
>>        CA    N
>>        CA    HA
>>        CA    C
>>        C    O
>>        CA    CB
>>        CB    HB
>>        CB    CG1
>>        CB    CG2
>>        CG2    HG21
>>        CG2    HG22
>>        CG2    HG23
>>        CG1    HG11
>>        CG1    HG12
>>        CG1    HG13
>>
>>     [ impropers ]
>>        CN     N    ON    H1
>>
>>> 2. hdb entry
>> In which file?
>> *aminoacids.hdb
>>
>>
>>> FVAL    6
>>> 1    1    H1    CN    N    ON
>> This should be generating H1 bonded to CN...
>>
>>> 1    1    HN    N    C    CA
>>> 1    5    HA    CA    N    C    CB
>>> 1    5    HB    CB    CA    CG1    CG2
>>> 3    4    HG1    CG1    CB    CA
>>> 3    4    HG2    CG2    CB    CA
>>>
>>> 3. N-terminal fragment
>>> HETATM    1  CN  FVAL    1      -0.721   1.600   1.249
>>> HETATM    2  ON  FVAL    1      -0.839   2.806   1.453
>>> ATOM      3  N   FVAL    1      -1.227   0.728   2.125
>>> ATOM      4  CA  FVAL    1      -1.918   1.159   3.323
>>> ATOM      5  C   FVAL    1      -1.969   2.678   3.410
>>> ATOM      6  O   FVAL    1      -0.931   3.335   3.447
>>> ATOM      7  CB  FVAL    1      -1.219   0.644   4.576
>>> ATOM      8  CG1 FVAL    1       0.208   1.178   4.618
>>> ATOM      9  CG2 FVAL    1      -1.976   1.118   5.812
>>>
>>> 4. pdb2gmx command
>>> #pdb2gmx -f monomer.pdb -o monomer.gro -water tip3p -ter
>>>
>>> 5. pdb2gmx output
>> Using the Charmm36-modified force field in directory ./ch

[gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Mark Abraham

Shima Arasteh wrote
> 
> Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.
> 
> What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
> 

As I've said lots of times, you need to go and look at the atom types you're
using, what interactions are defined for them in ffbonded.itp and perhaps
reassess those types. Perhaps you can invent some interactions by analogy.
Perhaps you can parameterise some. Perhaps you should give up and use
acetyl.


Shima Arasteh wrote
> I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of
> grompp,

As Justin said, blindly deleting things is a terrible approach. This assumes
that pdb2gmx created interactions that weren't useful to your model physics,
given the fact that you've forced it to use atom types that the makers
didn't intend. It's much more likely you're doing something wrong than
pdb2gmx is doing something wrong.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple
> interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the
> investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and
> .  .

No point worrying about that yet. You're trying to run a simulation on a
species that your force field didn't anticipate. So you've got to fix that,
or choose a different force field, or a different simulation.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
>       No default Bond types
> 
> And wrote line 414 is :
> line 414 of topol.tp:
>    [bonds]
>          1     2     1
> 

Think about this. grompp couldn't find a bonded interaction of type 1 that
matched atoms 1 and 2. That's your formyl carbon and hydrogen. That's not
suprising - you're using the C atom type, which you will likely see in
atomtypes.atp described as "carbonyl C, peptide backbone". Only if someone
really wanted to model a formyl peptide cap would there be a bonded
interaction defined from that C type with a hydrogen atom type. Anyway, if
you can find a bonded interaction type between H and C atom types that seems
to you sufficiently analogous, then you might copy that in ffbonded.itp for
the atom types in your molecule. Likewise for angles and dihedrals. Probably
you should give up and use acetyl.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Shima Arasteh
Thanks so much.
OK. I'll do my best.

 
Sincerely,
Shima


- Original Message -
From: Mark Abraham 
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:49 AM
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up


Shima Arasteh wrote
> 
> Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.
> 
> What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
> 

As I've said lots of times, you need to go and look at the atom types you're
using, what interactions are defined for them in ffbonded.itp and perhaps
reassess those types. Perhaps you can invent some interactions by analogy.
Perhaps you can parameterise some. Perhaps you should give up and use
acetyl.


Shima Arasteh wrote
> I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of
> grompp,

As Justin said, blindly deleting things is a terrible approach. This assumes
that pdb2gmx created interactions that weren't useful to your model physics,
given the fact that you've forced it to use atom types that the makers
didn't intend. It's much more likely you're doing something wrong than
pdb2gmx is doing something wrong.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple
> interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the
> investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and
> .  .

No point worrying about that yet. You're trying to run a simulation on a
species that your force field didn't anticipate. So you've got to fix that,
or choose a different force field, or a different simulation.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
>       No default Bond types
> 
> And wrote line 414 is :
> line 414 of topol.tp:
>    [bonds]
>          1     2     1
> 

Think about this. grompp couldn't find a bonded interaction of type 1 that
matched atoms 1 and 2. That's your formyl carbon and hydrogen. That's not
suprising - you're using the C atom type, which you will likely see in
atomtypes.atp described as "carbonyl C, peptide backbone". Only if someone
really wanted to model a formyl peptide cap would there be a bonded
interaction defined from that C type with a hydrogen atom type. Anyway, if
you can find a bonded interaction type between H and C atom types that seems
to you sufficiently analogous, then you might copy that in ffbonded.itp for
the atom types in your molecule. Likewise for angles and dihedrals. Probably
you should give up and use acetyl.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Shima Arasteh


 But If I want to use acetyl instead of formyl, then what about the chemical 
activity of the formyl located in N-terminus? 
The protein that I will put in the bilayer is composed of 2 monomers . The 
monomers form a dimer from the N-terminus, the same as gramicidin A channel. 
Acetyl could be play the same role as formyl here? 

Sincerely,
Shima


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From: Mark Abraham 
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Sent: Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:49 AM
Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up


Shima Arasteh wrote
> 
> Thanks for dear Mark's suggestions.
> 
> What's the typical solution to fix such errors of grompp?
> 

As I've said lots of times, you need to go and look at the atom types you're
using, what interactions are defined for them in ffbonded.itp and perhaps
reassess those types. Perhaps you can invent some interactions by analogy.
Perhaps you can parameterise some. Perhaps you should give up and use
acetyl.


Shima Arasteh wrote
> I don't have any idea to do what, so erased the lines defined in output of
> grompp,

As Justin said, blindly deleting things is a terrible approach. This assumes
that pdb2gmx created interactions that weren't useful to your model physics,
given the fact that you've forced it to use atom types that the makers
didn't intend. It's much more likely you're doing something wrong than
pdb2gmx is doing something wrong.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  then I went through the NVT equilibrium, it didn't stop by multiple
> interaction errors. I don't know what will happen for the rest of the
> investigation, put the protein in bilayer and then Umbrella Sampling and
> .  .

No point worrying about that yet. You're trying to run a simulation on a
species that your force field didn't anticipate. So you've got to fix that,
or choose a different force field, or a different simulation.


Shima Arasteh wrote
>  ERROR 1 [file topol.top, line 414]:
>       No default Bond types
> 
> And wrote line 414 is :
> line 414 of topol.tp:
>    [bonds]
>          1     2     1
> 

Think about this. grompp couldn't find a bonded interaction of type 1 that
matched atoms 1 and 2. That's your formyl carbon and hydrogen. That's not
suprising - you're using the C atom type, which you will likely see in
atomtypes.atp described as "carbonyl C, peptide backbone". Only if someone
really wanted to model a formyl peptide cap would there be a bonded
interaction defined from that C type with a hydrogen atom type. Anyway, if
you can find a bonded interaction type between H and C atom types that seems
to you sufficiently analogous, then you might copy that in ffbonded.itp for
the atom types in your molecule. Likewise for angles and dihedrals. Probably
you should give up and use acetyl.

Mark



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Diagnosing + system blowing up

2012-07-31 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 7/31/12 7:46 PM, Shima Arasteh wrote:



  But If I want to use acetyl instead of formyl, then what about the chemical 
activity of the formyl located in N-terminus?
The protein that I will put in the bilayer is composed of 2 monomers . The 
monomers form a dimer from the N-terminus, the same as gramicidin A channel. 
Acetyl could be play the same role as formyl here?



If your reasoning for using a formyl group is for some functionally relevant 
information, then you need to do the hard work of parameterizing the molecule 
completely.  If you can substitute some other cap (like acetyl) then you have to 
justify it to a skeptical audience (reviewers).  The choice is yours alone.


-Justin

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[gmx-users] A Force Field Paper including Heme Proteins

2012-07-31 Thread ZHANG Lu
Dear gromacs users,
  We just published a paper titled "Force field development for cofactors
in the photosystem II" in Journal of Computational Chemistry, which
includes the Amber03 compatible force field for heme-B and works well
with heme proteins. You may use it for reference at your convenience.
  The link for the paper is http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22685077

Best,
Lu

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[gmx-users] Fatal error: Number of grid cells is zero. Probably the system and box collapsed.

2012-07-31 Thread leila karami
Dear gromacs user

I did simulation of carbon nanotube (one in center and 6 in the
vicinity of that)|:

every CNT have 120 atoms.

1) energy minimization
2) equilibration in NVT ensemble

when I did equilibration in NPT ensemble, I encountered Fatal error:
Number of grid cells is zero. Probably the system and box collapsed.

How to solve this problem (with which parameter in the mdp file I can
solve this problem)?

Is there problem in the force field parameters?

If this problem resolves, can I do simulation under these conditions
but in the high pressure
or tempreture (800 bar or 1800 K)?

mdp file for equilibration in NPT ensemble is as follows:

title   =  Yo
cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.001; ps !
nsteps  =  5; total (2 ns).
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  100
nstxtcout   =  100
nstvout =  100
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  100
nstenergy   =  100
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  0.8
rcoulomb=  0.8
rvdw=  0.8
; Electrostatics
coulombtype =  Cut-off
; vdw
vdwtype =  Cut-off
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  Nose-Hoover
tc-grps= (NUcenter
tau_t   =  0.10  0.10
ref_t   =  1300  1300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  (NU center
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype  =  isotropic
tau_p   =  1
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1
; Generate velocites is off at 1300 K
gen_vel =  no
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc= xyz
; Lincs will write a warning to the stderr if in one step a bond
; rotates over more degrees than
lincs-warnangle  = 90
; Non-equilibrium MD
freezegrps   = (NU center
freezedim= N N NY Y Y


Any help will highly appreciated.
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Re: [gmx-users] Fatal error: Number of grid cells is zero. Probably the system and box collapsed.

2012-07-31 Thread Mark Abraham

On 1/08/2012 1:06 PM, leila karami wrote:

Dear gromacs user

I did simulation of carbon nanotube (one in center and 6 in the
vicinity of that)|:

every CNT have 120 atoms.

1) energy minimization
2) equilibration in NVT ensemble

when I did equilibration in NPT ensemble, I encountered Fatal error:
Number of grid cells is zero. Probably the system and box collapsed.

How to solve this problem (with which parameter in the mdp file I can
solve this problem)?


Standard advice is here 
http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Blowing_Up


You should pay particular attention to what it says about the use of 
pressure coupling.


Mark



Is there problem in the force field parameters?

If this problem resolves, can I do simulation under these conditions
but in the high pressure
or tempreture (800 bar or 1800 K)?

mdp file for equilibration in NPT ensemble is as follows:

title   =  Yo
cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
constraints =  all-bonds
integrator  =  md
dt  =  0.001; ps !
nsteps  =  5; total (2 ns).
nstcomm =  1
nstxout =  100
nstxtcout   =  100
nstvout =  100
nstfout =  0
nstlog  =  100
nstenergy   =  100
nstlist =  10
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  0.8
rcoulomb=  0.8
rvdw=  0.8
; Electrostatics
coulombtype =  Cut-off
; vdw
vdwtype =  Cut-off
; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
Tcoupl  =  Nose-Hoover
tc-grps= (NUcenter
tau_t   =  0.10  0.10
ref_t   =  1300  1300
; Energy monitoring
energygrps  =  (NU center
; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
Pcoupl  =  Parrinello-Rahman
Pcoupltype  =  isotropic
tau_p   =  1
compressibility =  4.5e-5
ref_p   =  1
; Generate velocites is off at 1300 K
gen_vel =  no
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc= xyz
; Lincs will write a warning to the stderr if in one step a bond
; rotates over more degrees than
lincs-warnangle  = 90
; Non-equilibrium MD
freezegrps   = (NU center
freezedim= N N NY Y Y


Any help will highly appreciated.


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