[gmx-users] order parameters of partially unsaturated chains

2011-01-08 Thread Ángel Piñeiro
Dear all
I wonder which is the best way to determine the deuterium order
parameters of partially unsaturated chains like the oleoyl chain of
POPC, more specifically I wonder if I should use the -unsat flag in
g_order for this case. I checked several papers on unsaturated lipids,
see for instance:
1.- http://persweb.wabash.edu/facstaff/FELLERS/publications/jpc_01.pdf
2.-
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1225825/pdf/biophysj00084-0102.pdf
3.-
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg&_imagekey=B94RW-4V8X9MG-P-1&_cdi=56421&_user=10&_pii=S0006349597782596&_coverDate=11%2F30%2F1997&_sk=%23TOC%2356421%231997%23999269994%23800076%23FLP%23display%23Volume_73,_Issue_5,_Pages_2249-2849_%28November_1997%29%23tagged%23Volume%23first%3D73%23Issue%23first%3D5%23date%23%28November_1997%29%23&view=c&_gw=y&wchp=dGLbVlz-zSkzV&md5=778ad27c9fc1e0b3874b178e36451cb4&ie=/sdarticle.pdf
4.- http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ja903529f
5.- http://www.ibpc.fr/UMR7099/pdf/Warschawski05-1.pdf

but it seems that nobody mentions anything about a correction for the
unsaturated carbons. Then I went to the code, I think this is the
important part:

if (bUnsat) {
  /* Using convention for unsaturated carbons */
  /* first get Sz, the vector from Cn to Cn+1 */
  rvec_sub(x1[a[index[i+1]+j]], x1[a[index[i]+j]], dist); 
  length = norm(dist);
  check_length(length, a[index[i]+j], a[index[i+1]+j]);
  svmul(1/length, dist, Sz);

  /* this is actually the cosine of the angle between the double bond
 and axis, because Sz is normalized and the two other components of
 the axis on the bilayer are zero */
  sdbangle += acos(Sz[axis]);  
} else {
  /* get vector dist(Cn-1,Cn+1) for tail atoms */
  rvec_sub(x1[a[index[i+1]+j]], x1[a[index[i-1]+j]], dist);
  length = norm(dist);  /* determine distance between two atoms */
  check_length(length, a[index[i-1]+j], a[index[i+1]+j]);
  
  svmul(1/length, dist, Sz);
  /* Sz is now the molecular axis Sz, normalized and all that */
}

As far as I see the difference is that by using the -unsat option, the
atoms Cn, Cn+1 are used to measure theta instead of the atoms Cn-1, Cn
+1. I think this could be reasonable when the whole chain is unsaturated
but I am not sure that it is correct to use the -unsat option when we
have two unsat carbons in the middle of a larger chain The
calculation could also be done for the whole chain without the -unsat
option, then repeat it for the unsaturated carbons plus their first
neighbors with the -unsat option and then replace the results obtained
from the second calculation for the central carbons in the curve
obtained without the -unsat option... as previously suggested in this
list (see
http://lists.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2010-February/049072.html)
but I am not sure that is the best... I would appreciate any comment.

Cheers,

Ángel.
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[gmx-users] error in ffgmxbon.itp

2011-01-08 Thread delara aghaie

Dear Justin
I want to run a simulation on a system containing DPPC and water(TIP4P-2005).
I have in my .top file some included .itp files.
they are:
lipid.itp
dppc.itp
tip4p-2005.itp
 
ffgmx-local.itp (this is the name which we have selected for the modified 
version of ffgmx.itp)
in which they are two included files: ffgmxbon-local.itp & ffgmxnb-local.itp
 
I have simulated this system at 310 K without error before. Now I only changed 
the temp to 270 K in the run.mdp file, now using the grompp command I get this 
error:(I sent you the command line and the error, below) I do not now what is 
ffdum.itp (you can see error line below)
you can see below also the part of ffgmx-local.itp which the error is about 
that part.
 
please let me know how to fix the error.
 
thanks for your time


-bash-3.2$ grompp_mpi -c confout-310-500.gro -f run.mdp -n index.ndx -p 
topoldppc.top -o topol.tpr -np 8
 :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
   Groningen Machine for Chemical Simulation
 :-)  VERSION 3.3  (-:

  Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
   Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
 Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
    check out http://www.gromacs.org for more information.
 This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
  modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
 as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
  :-)  grompp_mpi  (-:
Option Filename  Type Description

  -f    run.mdp  Input, Opt!  grompp input file with MD parameters
 -po  mdout.mdp  Output   grompp input file with MD parameters
  -c confout-310-500.gro  Input    Generic structure: gro g96 pdb tpr tpb
   tpa xml
  -r   conf.gro  Input, Opt.  Generic structure: gro g96 pdb tpr tpb tpa
   xml
 -rb   conf.gro  Input, Opt.  Generic structure: gro g96 pdb tpr tpb tpa
   xml
  -n  index.ndx  Input, Opt!  Index file
-deshuf  deshuf.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
  -p  topoldppc.top  Input    Topology file
 -pp  processed.top  Output, Opt. Topology file
  -o  topol.tpr  Output   Generic run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
  -t   traj.trr  Input, Opt.  Full precision trajectory: trr trj
  -e   ener.edr  Input, Opt.  Generic energy: edr ene
  Option   Type  Value  Description
--
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
  -[no]X   bool no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line options
   -nice    int  0  Set the nicelevel
  -[no]v   bool    yes  Be loud and noisy
   -time   real -1  Take frame at or first after this time.
 -np    int  8  Generate statusfile for # nodes
-[no]shuffle   bool no  Shuffle molecules over nodes
   -[no]sort   bool no  Sort molecules according to X coordinate
-[no]rmvsbds   bool    yes  Remove constant bonded interactions with virtual
    sites
   -load string Releative load capacity of each node on a
    parallel machine. Be sure to use quotes around
    the string, which should contain a number for
    each node
    -maxwarn    int 10  Number of warnings after which input processing
    stops
-[no]check14   bool no  Remove 1-4 interactions without Van der Waals
  -[no]renum   bool    yes  Renumber atomtypes and minimize number of
    atomtypes
creating statusfile for 8 nodes...
Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.2#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling cpp...
In file included from ffgmx-local.itp:9,
 from topoldppc.top:3:
ffgmxbon-local.itp:125:22: error: ff_dum.itp: No such file or directory
cpp exit code: 256
Tried to execute: 'cpp  -I/apps/gromacs/3.3/share/top  topoldppc.top > 
gromppAjujan'
The 'cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
processing topology...
ERROR 1 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 129]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 2 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 130]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 3 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 131]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 4 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 132]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 5 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 133]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 6 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 134]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 7 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 136]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 8 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 137]:
  Not enou

Re: [gmx-users] error in ffgmxbon.itp

2011-01-08 Thread Mark Abraham

On 8/01/2011 8:44 PM, delara aghaie wrote:


Dear Justin
I want to run a simulation on a system containing DPPC and 
water(TIP4P-2005).

I have in my .top file some included .itp files.
they are:
lipid.itp
dppc.itp
tip4p-2005.itp
ffgmx-local.itp *(this is the name which we have selected for the 
modified version of ffgmx.itp)*
*in which they are two included files:* ffgmxbon-local.itp *&* 
ffgmxnb-local.itp

**
I have simulated this system at 310 K without error before. Now I only 
changed the temp to *270 K* in the run.mdp file, now using the grompp 
command I get this error:(I*sent you the command line and the error, 
below*) I do not now what is *ffdum.itp* (you can see error line below)
you can see below also the part of *ffgmx-local.itp* which the error 
is about that part.

please let me know how to fix the error.
thanks for your time


-bash-3.2$ *grompp_mpi -c confout-310-500.gro -f run.mdp -n index.ndx 
-p topoldppc.top -o topol.tpr -np 8

* :-)  G  R  O  M  A  C  S  (-:
   Groningen Machine for Chemical Simulation
 :-)  VERSION *3.3*  (-:



That's prehistoric. I hope you have a sufficient reason to need to use a 
version of GROMACS that predates your water model...




  Written by David van der Spoel, Erik Lindahl, Berk Hess, and others.
   Copyright (c) 1991-2000, University of Groningen, The Netherlands.
 Copyright (c) 2001-2004, The GROMACS development team,
check out http://www.gromacs.orgfor more information.
 This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
  modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
 as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
 of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
  :-)  grompp_mpi  (-:
Option Filename  Type Description

  -frun.mdp  Input, Opt!  grompp input file with MD parameters
 -po  mdout.mdp  Output   grompp input file with MD parameters
  -c confout-310-500.gro  InputGeneric structure: gro g96 pdb 
tpr tpb

   tpa xml
  -r   conf.gro  Input, Opt.  Generic structure: gro g96 pdb tpr 
tpb tpa

   xml
 -rb   conf.gro  Input, Opt.  Generic structure: gro g96 pdb tpr 
tpb tpa

   xml
  -n  index.ndx  Input, Opt!  Index file
-deshuf  deshuf.ndx  Output, Opt. Index file
  -p  topoldppc.top  InputTopology file
 -pp  processed.top  Output, Opt. Topology file
  -o  topol.tpr  Output   Generic run input: tpr tpb tpa xml
  -t   traj.trr  Input, Opt.  Full precision trajectory: trr trj
  -e   ener.edr  Input, Opt.  Generic energy: edr ene
  Option   Type  Value  Description
--
  -[no]h   bool no  Print help info and quit
  -[no]X   bool no  Use dialog box GUI to edit command line 
options

   -niceint  0  Set the nicelevel
  -[no]v   boolyes  Be loud and noisy
   -time   real -1  Take frame at or first after this time.
 -npint  8  Generate statusfile for # nodes
-[no]shuffle   bool no  Shuffle molecules over nodes
   -[no]sort   bool no  Sort molecules according to X coordinate
-[no]rmvsbds   boolyes  Remove constant bonded interactions with 
virtual

sites
   -load string Releative load capacity of each node on a
parallel machine. Be sure to use quotes around
the string, which should contain a number for
each node
-maxwarnint 10  Number of warnings after which input 
processing

stops
-[no]check14   bool no  Remove 1-4 interactions without Van der Waals
  -[no]renum   boolyes  Renumber atomtypes and minimize number of
atomtypes
creating statusfile for 8 nodes...
Back Off! I just backed up mdout.mdp to ./#mdout.mdp.2#
checking input for internal consistency...
calling *cpp*...
In file included from *ffgmx-local.itp*:9,
 from *topoldppc.top*:3:
*ffgmxbon-local.itp:*125:22: error*: ff_dum.itp: No such file or directory
*



What's going on here?


cpp exit code: 256
Tried to execute: 'cpp  -I/apps/gromacs/3.3/share/top  topoldppc.top > 
gromppAjujan'

The 'cpp' command is defined in the .mdp file
processing topology...
*ERROR 1 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 129]:
  Not enough parameters
*ERROR 2 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 130]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 3 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 131]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 4 [file "ffgmxbon-local.itp", line 132]:
  Not enough parameters
ERROR 5 [file "ffgmxbo

Re: [gmx-users] Ion-Clustering?

2011-01-08 Thread Erik Marklund
Clustering of ions has been seen before. It is for instance discussed in 
Hess, B. et. al. J. Chem. Phys. 124, 164509 (2006).


Cheers,

Erik

Micholas Smith skrev 2011-01-07 14.56:

Hello everyone,

I've been performing some rather long simulations (400ns) of a short 
peptide chain in explicit TIP4P water solvent using opls-aa forcefield 
with ionic concentrations near 1M, and I am finding a lot of 
"clustering" of my ionic species. Has anyone else run into this type 
of problem? I am running NPT with a temperature of 283K with berendsen 
coupling. For electrostatics iI am using PME, which I have been told 
works welll with ions in solution. The clustering of the ions reminds 
me of a crystallization process, this just doesn't feel like it's 
physical.


Thanks in advance.

Micholas D. Smith
Graduate Student
Drexel University



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