[gmx-users] PMF on dihedral

2010-09-23 Thread charlier
Hi

I would like to perform calculations of potential of mean force on a
dihedral angle.
But it seems that all the options are parametrized for a PMF
calculation on a distance.

This question has been already posted 4 years ago
(http://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg00384.html) without
any answer. I hope that somebody will be able to help me.

Thanks,

Landry


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[gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..

2010-09-23 Thread Kamalesh Roy
Dear users

I am trying to install Gromacs-4.5 with fftw-3.2.2  in Fedora version 9,
when I am trying to install the Groamcs
after installing fftw it is giving me an error that ftwf library not found.

Please hep me.

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Re: [gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..

2010-09-23 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Kamalesh Roy wrote:

Dear users

I am trying to install Gromacs-4.5 with fftw-3.2.2  in Fedora version 9, 
when I am trying to install the Groamcs

after installing fftw it is giving me an error that ftwf library not found.

Please hep me.



At the very least you need to provide us with the command you gave.  Detailed 
installation instructions are available on the Gromacs site:


http://www.gromacs.org/index.php?title=Download_%26_Installation/Installation_Instructions

-Justin


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Re: [gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..

2010-09-23 Thread Fabio Affinito
On 09/23/2010 12:27 PM, Kamalesh Roy wrote:
> Dear users
> 
> I am trying to install Gromacs-4.5 with fftw-3.2.2  in Fedora version 9,
> when I am trying to install the Groamcs
> after installing fftw it is giving me an error that ftwf library not found.
> 
> Please hep me.
> 
> -- 
> Regards
> Kamalesh Roy
> 

Same problem here.
Using:
./configure --prefix=/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/gromacs \
 --enable-ppc-sqrt \
 --disable-ppc-altivec \
 --with-fft=fftw3 \
 --without-x \
 CFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 CC="xlc_r -q64" \
 CXX="xlC_r -q64" \
 CXXFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 CPPFLAGS="-I/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/include" \
 F77="xlf_r -q64" \
 FFLAGS="-O3 -qnoprefetch -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 LDFLAGS="-L/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/lib"
is fine with 4.0.7 but it generates
checking for main in -lfftw3f... no
configure: error: Cannot find fftw3f library
in 4.5.1

I successfully installed 4.5.1 only using the --with-fft=fftpack

Fabio



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Re: [gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..

2010-09-23 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Fabio Affinito wrote:

On 09/23/2010 12:27 PM, Kamalesh Roy wrote:

Dear users

I am trying to install Gromacs-4.5 with fftw-3.2.2  in Fedora version 9,
when I am trying to install the Groamcs
after installing fftw it is giving me an error that ftwf library not found.

Please hep me.

--
Regards
Kamalesh Roy



Same problem here.
Using:
./configure --prefix=/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/gromacs \
 --enable-ppc-sqrt \
 --disable-ppc-altivec \
 --with-fft=fftw3 \
 --without-x \
 CFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 CC="xlc_r -q64" \
 CXX="xlC_r -q64" \
 CXXFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 CPPFLAGS="-I/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/include" \
 F77="xlf_r -q64" \
 FFLAGS="-O3 -qnoprefetch -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
 LDFLAGS="-L/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/lib"
is fine with 4.0.7 but it generates
checking for main in -lfftw3f... no
configure: error: Cannot find fftw3f library
in 4.5.1



Did you install floating-point or double-precision libraries?  In this case, it 
appears that you've at least set LDFLAGS correctly, now the issue is whether or 
not you've got a precision mismatch.


-Justin


I successfully installed 4.5.1 only using the --with-fft=fftpack

Fabio





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Re: [gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..

2010-09-23 Thread Mark Abraham


- Original Message -
From: Fabio Affinito 
Date: Thursday, September 23, 2010 20:54
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] ffyw3f library not found..
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users 

> On 09/23/2010 12:27 PM, Kamalesh Roy wrote:
> > Dear users
> > 
> > I am trying to install Gromacs-4.5 with fftw-3.2.2  in 
> Fedora version 9,
> > when I am trying to install the Groamcs
> > after installing fftw it is giving me an error that ftwf 
> library not found.
> > 
> > Please hep me.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Regards
> > Kamalesh Roy
> > 
> 
> Same problem here.
> Using:
> ./configure --prefix=/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/gromacs \
>  --enable-ppc-sqrt \
>  --disable-ppc-altivec \
>  --with-fft=fftw3 \
>  --without-x \
>  CFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
>  CC="xlc_r -q64" \
>  CXX="xlC_r -q64" \
>  CXXFLAGS="-O3 -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
>  CPPFLAGS="-I/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/include" \
>  F77="xlf_r -q64" \
>  FFLAGS="-O3 -qnoprefetch -qarch=auto -qtune=auto" \
>  LDFLAGS="-L/bgp/userinternal/cin0644a/fftwlibs/lib"
> is fine with 4.0.7 but it generates
> checking for main in -lfftw3f... no
> configure: error: Cannot find fftw3f library
> in 4.5.1
> 
> I successfully installed 4.5.1 only using the --with-fft=fftpack

Don't use that, it will be diabolically slow for PME simulations!

Unfortunately, the BlueGene-specific GROMACS installation instructions didn't 
have the clue that the precision of GROMACS and FFTW has to match. It does now.

Presumably both you and the original poster need to install a single-precision 
copy of FFTW, or configure a double-precision version of GROMACS (if you know 
you need double precision, or don't mind your simulation being much slower).

Mark

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[gmx-users] Getting started - Peptide

2010-09-23 Thread Artur Panczakiewicz
Dear Gromacs Users,

I'm a freshman and would like to lear how to use GROMACS in my
research starting from tutorial. I've just installed the newest
version and try to repeat all of the steps from the chapter that
describes the preparation of Ribonuclease A to MD simulation. In my
case it is not possible, unfortunatelly. The grompp program crashes
such a way:

---
Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.1
Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987

Fatal error:
No such moleculetype SOL
For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
---

I tried to install GROMACS on other machine with different Linux
distribution but the error in grompp was the same.
What is important, I installed version 4.0.7 and it works well! I
don't have any idea what is going on.
Does anyone have a similar problem?

Regards,
Artur
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[gmx-users] GROMACS 4.5.1 and MPI

2010-09-23 Thread simon sham
Hi,
I have some questions about installation of GROMACS with MPI.
Our system administrator has installed the 4.5.1 version in our system. When I 
tested the software with "openmpi/openmpi-1.3.3-gcc/bin/mpirun" with mdrun_mpi, 
I got all sorts of error message such as 
"opt/apps/gromacs/gromacs-4.5.1-mpi/bin/mdrun_mpi: Symbol `ompi_mpi_byte' has 
different size in shared object, consider re-linking", and many others.

My questions:
1. When I prepare my system for simulations, do I have to consistently use 
*_mpi functions in gromacs_4.5.1_mpi directory?
2. Are there any details that I need to pay attention when I configure the 
software with openmpi?

Thanks for your help in advance.

Best,

Simon



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Re: [gmx-users] Re: rotational correlation function

2010-09-23 Thread Paymon Pirzadeh
Dear Dr. van der Spoel,
Thanks a lot for your clarification. But some questions yet:

1. If I do not provide the "-aver" option, will the program calculate
the C(t) for individual N-H bond?

2. In a paper that I just read, JCP vol. 131 155103 (2009),  they claim
they have calculated the Ctot(t) which could be factorized into
rotational and internal components, Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). I assume
g_rotacf gives the rotational part. How one can calculate the Ctot(t)
(they claim they calculatetd the Ctot and Crot with GROMACS utilities)?
How can we generate the rotation matrix (omega(t)) and use it? What's
the use of "-fitfn"? Is it sth that could be done in other data
processing softwares?

3. How can we generate a trajectory with no internal motions? Does it
have anything to do with g_rms?

Sorry for mass of questions.
Regards,

Paymon


On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:20 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:
> On 2010-09-23 01.27, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
> > Dear Dr. Chaban,
> > I meant the N-H bond vectors of protein backbone for calculation of
> > rotational time correlation function to calculate the rotational
> > diffusion constant of my protein. I need a protocol which walks me step
> > by step through the procedure.
> > Thanks for your Attention.
> define all NH bonds in an index file as
> [ NH ]
> 5 6
> 10 11
> 23 24
> 
> etc.
> 
> Then run g_rotacf -P 2 [ more flags ] -aver
> Analyze the ACF to extract the order parameters.
> You will need to read Lipari & Szabo papers:
> @Article{ Lipari82a,
>author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo and R. M. Levy",
>title ="Protein Dynamics and {NMR} relaxation: comparison of
>simulations with experiment",
>journal =  BTnature,
>year = 1982,
>volume =   300,
>pages ="197-198"
> }
> 
> @Article{ Lipari82b,
>author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo",
>title ="Model-Free Approach to the Interpretation of Nuclear
>Magnetic Resonance Relaxation in
>Macromolecules. 1. Theory and Range of Validity",
>journal =  BTjacs,
>year = 1982,
>volume =   104,
>pages ="4546-4559"
> }
> 
> 
> >
> > Paymon
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 19:03 -0400, Vitaly Chaban wrote:
> >>> Message: 2
> >>> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:07:27 -0600
> >>> From: Paymon Pirzadeh
> >>> Subject: [gmx-users] rotational correlation function
> >>> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> >>> Message-ID:<1285178847.11669.66.ca...@paymon-desktop>
> >>> Content-Type: text/plain
> >>>
> >>> Hello,
> >>> Imagine if the total correlation function of a protein could be
> >>> factorized into rotational and internal portions:
> >>> Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). With which commands I can calculate the Ctot(t)
> >>> and with which I can get the Crot(t)? Does g_rotacf produce the Crot(t)?
> >>> What does the g_rms -fit do? I am confused on how I can use gromacs
> >>> commands on my output files. Sorry for mass of e-mails.
> >>>
> >>> Paymon
> >>
> >>
> >> Hey, Paymon -
> >>
> >> Do you mean the correlation function of the velocity (VACF)? Why not
> >> to use g_velacc and g_rotacf for translational and rotational VACFs? I
> >> suppose, your molecule is rigid (enough) for rotational velocoty to
> >> make sense.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
> >> Department of Chemistry
> >> University of Rochester
> >> Rochester, NY 14627-0216
> >> United States of America
> >
> 
> 
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> Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
> Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:+46184714205.
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Re: [gmx-users] GROMACS 4.5.1 and MPI

2010-09-23 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



simon sham wrote:

Hi,
I have some questions about installation of GROMACS with MPI.
Our system administrator has installed the 4.5.1 version in our system. 
When I tested the software with "openmpi/openmpi-1.3.3-gcc/bin/mpirun" 
with mdrun_mpi, I got all sorts of error message such as 
"opt/apps/gromacs/gromacs-4.5.1-mpi/bin/mdrun_mpi: Symbol 
`ompi_mpi_byte' has different size in shared object, consider 
re-linking", and many others.




The error message suggests that perhaps a different version of the MPI 
implementation was used to compile the code.  Find out from your admin how 
Gromacs was built.



My questions:
1. When I prepare my system for simulations, do I have to consistently 
use *_mpi functions in gromacs_4.5.1_mpi directory?


No, as a matter of fact, none of the other Gromacs utilities are MPI-aware.

-Justin

2. Are there any details that I need to pay attention when I configure 
the software with openmpi?


Thanks for your help in advance.

Best,

Simon




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Re: [gmx-users] Re: rotational correlation function

2010-09-23 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2010-09-23 18.14, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Dr. van der Spoel,
Thanks a lot for your clarification. But some questions yet:

1. If I do not provide the "-aver" option, will the program calculate
the C(t) for individual N-H bond?


Yes.


2. In a paper that I just read, JCP vol. 131 155103 (2009),  they claim
they have calculated the Ctot(t) which could be factorized into
rotational and internal components, Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). I assume
g_rotacf gives the rotational part. How one can calculate the Ctot(t)
(they claim they calculatetd the Ctot and Crot with GROMACS utilities)?
How can we generate the rotation matrix (omega(t)) and use it? What's
the use of "-fitfn"? Is it sth that could be done in other data
processing softwares?
If your sim is long enough (10-20 times the rotation time, which for a 
small protein is on the order of a couple of ns) you can fit all the 
individual NH -acfs to two exponentials, 1 for the NH relaxation and one 
for the overall.




3. How can we generate a trajectory with no internal motions? Does it
have anything to do with g_rms?
You can do the reverse by fitting trjconv -fit rot+trans this will give 
you a protein with no overall rotation+translation from which you can 
derive the order parameters and relaxation times of individual NH vectors.



Check this ref too:
@Article{Villa2006a,
   author  = {A. Villa and G. Stock},
  title   = {What NMR relaxation can tell us about the internal motion 
of an RNA

 hairpin: A molecular dynamics simulation study},
  journal = {J. Chem. Theory Comput.},
  volume  = {2},
  year= {2006},
  pages   = {1228-1236},
}



Sorry for mass of questions.
Regards,

Paymon


On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:20 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2010-09-23 01.27, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Dr. Chaban,
I meant the N-H bond vectors of protein backbone for calculation of
rotational time correlation function to calculate the rotational
diffusion constant of my protein. I need a protocol which walks me step
by step through the procedure.
Thanks for your Attention.

define all NH bonds in an index file as
[ NH ]
5 6
10 11
23 24

etc.

Then run g_rotacf -P 2 [ more flags ] -aver
Analyze the ACF to extract the order parameters.
You will need to read Lipari&  Szabo papers:
@Article{ Lipari82a,
author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo and R. M. Levy",
title ="Protein Dynamics and {NMR} relaxation: comparison of
simulations with experiment",
journal =  BTnature,
year = 1982,
volume =   300,
pages ="197-198"
}

@Article{ Lipari82b,
author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo",
title ="Model-Free Approach to the Interpretation of Nuclear
Magnetic Resonance Relaxation in
Macromolecules. 1. Theory and Range of Validity",
journal =  BTjacs,
year = 1982,
volume =   104,
pages ="4546-4559"
}




Paymon


On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 19:03 -0400, Vitaly Chaban wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:07:27 -0600
From: Paymon Pirzadeh
Subject: [gmx-users] rotational correlation function
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID:<1285178847.11669.66.ca...@paymon-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello,
Imagine if the total correlation function of a protein could be
factorized into rotational and internal portions:
Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). With which commands I can calculate the Ctot(t)
and with which I can get the Crot(t)? Does g_rotacf produce the Crot(t)?
What does the g_rms -fit do? I am confused on how I can use gromacs
commands on my output files. Sorry for mass of e-mails.

Paymon



Hey, Paymon -

Do you mean the correlation function of the velocity (VACF)? Why not
to use g_velacc and g_rotacf for translational and rotational VACFs? I
suppose, your molecule is rigid (enough) for rotational velocoty to
make sense.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Department of Chemistry
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627-0216
United States of America





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Re: [gmx-users] Re: rotational correlation function

2010-09-23 Thread Paymon Pirzadeh
Great tips and advices. I appreciate your attention.
But, what would the g_rms -fit rot+trans  do? 

Paymon



On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 20:07 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:
> On 2010-09-23 18.14, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
> > Dear Dr. van der Spoel,
> > Thanks a lot for your clarification. But some questions yet:
> >
> > 1. If I do not provide the "-aver" option, will the program calculate
> > the C(t) for individual N-H bond?
> >
> Yes.
> 
> > 2. In a paper that I just read, JCP vol. 131 155103 (2009),  they claim
> > they have calculated the Ctot(t) which could be factorized into
> > rotational and internal components, Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). I assume
> > g_rotacf gives the rotational part. How one can calculate the Ctot(t)
> > (they claim they calculatetd the Ctot and Crot with GROMACS utilities)?
> > How can we generate the rotation matrix (omega(t)) and use it? What's
> > the use of "-fitfn"? Is it sth that could be done in other data
> > processing softwares?
> If your sim is long enough (10-20 times the rotation time, which for a 
> small protein is on the order of a couple of ns) you can fit all the 
> individual NH -acfs to two exponentials, 1 for the NH relaxation and one 
> for the overall.
> 
> >
> > 3. How can we generate a trajectory with no internal motions? Does it
> > have anything to do with g_rms?
> You can do the reverse by fitting trjconv -fit rot+trans this will give 
> you a protein with no overall rotation+translation from which you can 
> derive the order parameters and relaxation times of individual NH vectors.
> 
> 
> Check this ref too:
> @Article{Villa2006a,
> author  = {A. Villa and G. Stock},
>title   = {What NMR relaxation can tell us about the internal motion 
> of an RNA
>   hairpin: A molecular dynamics simulation study},
>journal = {J. Chem. Theory Comput.},
>volume  = {2},
>year= {2006},
>pages   = {1228-1236},
> }
> 
> >
> > Sorry for mass of questions.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Paymon
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:20 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:
> >> On 2010-09-23 01.27, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:
> >>> Dear Dr. Chaban,
> >>> I meant the N-H bond vectors of protein backbone for calculation of
> >>> rotational time correlation function to calculate the rotational
> >>> diffusion constant of my protein. I need a protocol which walks me step
> >>> by step through the procedure.
> >>> Thanks for your Attention.
> >> define all NH bonds in an index file as
> >> [ NH ]
> >> 5 6
> >> 10 11
> >> 23 24
> >>
> >> etc.
> >>
> >> Then run g_rotacf -P 2 [ more flags ] -aver
> >> Analyze the ACF to extract the order parameters.
> >> You will need to read Lipari&  Szabo papers:
> >> @Article{ Lipari82a,
> >> author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo and R. M. Levy",
> >> title ="Protein Dynamics and {NMR} relaxation: comparison of
> >> simulations with experiment",
> >> journal =  BTnature,
> >> year = 1982,
> >> volume =   300,
> >> pages ="197-198"
> >> }
> >>
> >> @Article{ Lipari82b,
> >> author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo",
> >> title ="Model-Free Approach to the Interpretation of Nuclear
> >> Magnetic Resonance Relaxation in
> >> Macromolecules. 1. Theory and Range of Validity",
> >> journal =  BTjacs,
> >> year = 1982,
> >> volume =   104,
> >> pages ="4546-4559"
> >> }
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Paymon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 19:03 -0400, Vitaly Chaban wrote:
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:07:27 -0600
> > From: Paymon Pirzadeh
> > Subject: [gmx-users] rotational correlation function
> > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
> > Message-ID:<1285178847.11669.66.ca...@paymon-desktop>
> > Content-Type: text/plain
> >
> > Hello,
> > Imagine if the total correlation function of a protein could be
> > factorized into rotational and internal portions:
> > Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). With which commands I can calculate the Ctot(t)
> > and with which I can get the Crot(t)? Does g_rotacf produce the Crot(t)?
> > What does the g_rms -fit do? I am confused on how I can use gromacs
> > commands on my output files. Sorry for mass of e-mails.
> >
> > Paymon
> 
> 
>  Hey, Paymon -
> 
>  Do you mean the correlation function of the velocity (VACF)? Why not
>  to use g_velacc and g_rotacf for translational and rotational VACFs? I
>  suppose, your molecule is rigid (enough) for rotational velocoty to
>  make sense.
> 
>  --
>  Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
>  Department of Chemistry
>  University of Rochester
>  Rochester, NY 14627-0216
>  United States of America
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
> >> Dept. of Cell&  Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
> >> Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone: +46184714205.
> >> sp...@xray

Re: [gmx-users] Re: rotational correlation function

2010-09-23 Thread David van der Spoel

On 2010-09-23 20.38, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Great tips and advices. I appreciate your attention.
But, what would the g_rms -fit rot+trans  do?


compute the rmsd. something different. I said trjconv.


Paymon



On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 20:07 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2010-09-23 18.14, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Dr. van der Spoel,
Thanks a lot for your clarification. But some questions yet:

1. If I do not provide the "-aver" option, will the program calculate
the C(t) for individual N-H bond?


Yes.


2. In a paper that I just read, JCP vol. 131 155103 (2009),  they claim
they have calculated the Ctot(t) which could be factorized into
rotational and internal components, Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). I assume
g_rotacf gives the rotational part. How one can calculate the Ctot(t)
(they claim they calculatetd the Ctot and Crot with GROMACS utilities)?
How can we generate the rotation matrix (omega(t)) and use it? What's
the use of "-fitfn"? Is it sth that could be done in other data
processing softwares?

If your sim is long enough (10-20 times the rotation time, which for a
small protein is on the order of a couple of ns) you can fit all the
individual NH -acfs to two exponentials, 1 for the NH relaxation and one
for the overall.



3. How can we generate a trajectory with no internal motions? Does it
have anything to do with g_rms?

You can do the reverse by fitting trjconv -fit rot+trans this will give
you a protein with no overall rotation+translation from which you can
derive the order parameters and relaxation times of individual NH vectors.


Check this ref too:
@Article{Villa2006a,
 author  = {A. Villa and G. Stock},
title   = {What NMR relaxation can tell us about the internal motion
of an RNA
   hairpin: A molecular dynamics simulation study},
journal = {J. Chem. Theory Comput.},
volume  = {2},
year= {2006},
pages   = {1228-1236},
}



Sorry for mass of questions.
Regards,

Paymon


On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 08:20 +0200, David van der Spoel wrote:

On 2010-09-23 01.27, Paymon Pirzadeh wrote:

Dear Dr. Chaban,
I meant the N-H bond vectors of protein backbone for calculation of
rotational time correlation function to calculate the rotational
diffusion constant of my protein. I need a protocol which walks me step
by step through the procedure.
Thanks for your Attention.

define all NH bonds in an index file as
[ NH ]
5 6
10 11
23 24

etc.

Then run g_rotacf -P 2 [ more flags ] -aver
Analyze the ACF to extract the order parameters.
You will need to read Lipari&   Szabo papers:
@Article{ Lipari82a,
 author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo and R. M. Levy",
 title ="Protein Dynamics and {NMR} relaxation: comparison of
 simulations with experiment",
 journal =  BTnature,
 year = 1982,
 volume =   300,
 pages ="197-198"
}

@Article{ Lipari82b,
 author =   "G. Lipari and A. Szabo",
 title ="Model-Free Approach to the Interpretation of Nuclear
 Magnetic Resonance Relaxation in
 Macromolecules. 1. Theory and Range of Validity",
 journal =  BTjacs,
 year = 1982,
 volume =   104,
 pages ="4546-4559"
}




Paymon


On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 19:03 -0400, Vitaly Chaban wrote:

Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 12:07:27 -0600
From: Paymon Pirzadeh
Subject: [gmx-users] rotational correlation function
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Message-ID:<1285178847.11669.66.ca...@paymon-desktop>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello,
Imagine if the total correlation function of a protein could be
factorized into rotational and internal portions:
Ctot(t)=Crot(t)*Cint(t). With which commands I can calculate the Ctot(t)
and with which I can get the Crot(t)? Does g_rotacf produce the Crot(t)?
What does the g_rms -fit do? I am confused on how I can use gromacs
commands on my output files. Sorry for mass of e-mails.

Paymon



Hey, Paymon -

Do you mean the correlation function of the velocity (VACF)? Why not
to use g_velacc and g_rotacf for translational and rotational VACFs? I
suppose, your molecule is rigid (enough) for rotational velocoty to
make sense.

--
Dr. Vitaly V. Chaban
Department of Chemistry
University of Rochester
Rochester, NY 14627-0216
United States of America





--
David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
Dept. of Cell&   Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se





--
David van der Spoel, Ph.D., Professor of Biology
Dept. of Cell&  Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se





--
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Dept. of Cell & Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
Box 596, 75124 Uppsala, Sweden. Phone:  +46184714205.
sp...@xray.bmc.uu.sehttp://folding.bmc.uu.se
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Re: [gmx-users] Getting started - Peptide

2010-09-23 Thread TJ Mustard



  

  



  On September 23, 2010 at 3:02 PM Artur Panczakiewicz  wrote:
  
  > Dear Gromacs Users,
  >
  > I'm a freshman and would like to lear how to use GROMACS in my
  > research starting from tutorial. I've just installed the newest
  > version and try to repeat all of the steps from the chapter that
  > describes the preparation of Ribonuclease A to MD simulation. In my
  > case it is not possible, unfortunatelly. The grompp program crashes
  > such a way:
  >
  > ---
  > Program grompp, VERSION 4.5.1
  > Source code file: toppush.c, line: 1987
  >
  > Fatal error:
  > No such moleculetype SOL
  > For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the GROMACS
  > website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
  > ---


 

This usually means you have "SOL" coupled to a temperature, and if you don't have SOL in your system/.top/.gro you will get this error. This coupling is in the .mdp file. If you are running the system in a vacuum you must remove the SOL from the mdp file. If you want some kind of SOL (SPC, TIP3P, etc), you must add this in by making a box with solvent in it. The tutorial will most likely have this in it.

 

 


  > > I tried to install GROMACS on other machine with different Linux
  > distribution but the error in grompp was the same.
  > What is important, I installed version 4.0.7 and it works well! I
  > don't have any idea what is going on.
  > Does anyone have a similar problem?
  >
  > Regards,
  > Artur
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