[gmx-users] any help for PPPM?

2007-03-04 Thread feng chen
Hi,

  For the past few days , we've been carrying out a simluation by using PPPM , 
for some reason we end up with some wired pressure tensors. Based on manual , 
it says it is not easy to calculate the full long-range virial tensor with PPPM 
correctly, but it is possible to obtain the trace. What confused us is that if 
one can get the trace right why couldn't get correct virials? We have done some 
literature searches , but until now still couldn't figure out why is it. So , 
can anyone point out why we have such an issue between PPPM and virial tensor 
caculation ? and can you give me a reference where I can 
learn more about?

 thanks in advance


  Kevin


 

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Re: [gmx-users] any help for PPPM?

2007-03-04 Thread David van der Spoel

feng chen wrote:

Hi,
 
  For the past few days , we've been carrying out a simluation by using 
PPPM , for some reason we end up with some wired pressure tensors. Based 
on manual , it says it is not easy to calculate the full long-range 
virial tensor with PPPM correctly, but it is possible to obtain the 
trace. What confused us is that if one can get the trace right why 
couldn't get correct virials? We have done some literature searches , 
but until now still couldn't figure out why is it. So , can anyone point 
out why we have such an issue between PPPM and virial tensor caculation 
? and can you give me a reference where I can

learn more about?
 
 thanks in advance
 
 
  Kevin
 
The implementation of PPPM in gromacs is ancient, it is based on work by 
Luty & Van Gunsteren, 1995 or so. In order to use pressure coupling one 
would have to update the code. Hunenberger has described how to do it, 
around 2000, but we haven't come around to implement it, largely because 
we've put much more effort into optimizing PME, even though some people 
maintain that PPPM is more efficient in principle.


What it boils down to is that you're on your own when you want to use it.
--
David.

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[gmx-users] Re:realloc Error !

2007-03-04 Thread Qiang Zhong
  I have a complex protein which is predicted from cluspro server,I use it as a
start structure,I want to know the complex will deformated to a new conformation
which is NMR experiment result(it only include a fragment of protein).So I want 
to
know the two protein interaction information by MD.
  I use energy minimize step to get optimize structure,but there Fmax always 
>1.So
I don't know how to do!
  Otherwise,I got another error message in same situation:
Fatal error:
Box was shifted at least 10 times. Please see log-file.

  I also don't know how to understand it.
  Could you tell me reason?Thank you very much! 

> > Dear users:
> >  I simulate a large system which are 27062 atoms (include water),after
mdrun
> > hours,I receive a error message:
> > Fatal error:
> > realloc for grid->nra (-410897240 bytes, file nsgrid.c, line 159,
grid->nra=0x0x
> > 8cd3200)
> > 
> > Could somebody tell me what wrong with it,what should I do?
> > Thank you very much!
> 
> Probably, equilibrate the system better. You'd need to tell us more 
> about what you're doing in order to get a better guess, however.
> 
> Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] Re:realloc Error !

2007-03-04 Thread Mark Abraham

Qiang Zhong wrote:

  I have a complex protein which is predicted from cluspro server,I use it as a
start structure,I want to know the complex will deformated to a new conformation
which is NMR experiment result(it only include a fragment of protein).So I want 
to
know the two protein interaction information by MD.
  I use energy minimize step to get optimize structure,but there Fmax always 
>1.So
I don't know how to do!


You need an adequately minimized structure, but you won't be able to get 
 Fmax of zero. "Adequate" just means that later when you heat the 
system and do your equilibration run that things do not fall apart.



  Otherwise,I got another error message in same situation:
Fatal error:
Box was shifted at least 10 times. Please see log-file.


When? During the minimization? What was different between when you got 
this error message and when you didn't?



  I also don't know how to understand it.
  Could you tell me reason?Thank you very much! 


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