[Gimp-user] 2.3.x

[Eric P]

Is there a roadmap posted anywhere for the next development series?
Thanks,
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Preserve transparency in a TIFF

[Eric P]

Try a merge visible (under layers) _before_ saving.  This will maintain
transparency.

On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 09:11 -0400, Gregory Yetman wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a GIMP image with transparency set. I've read that TIFF supports
> transparency, yet when I try and save my image as a TIFF I have to
> 'flatten' it first, which removes the transparency.
> 
> Is there a way in the GIMP to create a TIFF file with transparent areas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Feature Request: Open toolbox on right click.

[Eric P]

On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 09:17 +0200, Olivier Ripoll wrote:
> David Marrs wrote:
> > Olivier Ripoll wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> You can specify inthe preferences that the toolbox must be "on top". 
> >> This way, you always have it available...
> > 
> > 
> > Try as I might, I cannot find this option!
> Preferences->Window Management->Hint for the toolbox->keep above
> 
> >> Not everyone is using the menubar (it is optional, see the prefences): 
> >> I do not. I find it unpractical since I very often use Gimp to work on 
> >> small images. I think long time gimp users might also use 
> >> preferentially the right-click menu to the menubar: It allows a 
> >> faster/more straightforward access to the functionality. To summarise 
> >> my personal opinion: The right click menu is one of the best things 
> >> introduced by Gimp.
> > 
> > 
> > But even with the menubar switched off it can still be accessed by 
> > clicking the right-facing arrow in the top left corner of the screen, so 
> > you don't *need* the right-click. I'm not saying that it shouldn't 
> > continue to be accessible by right-clicking. It could always be a 
> > preference option, or a Shift+click option.
> 
> The difference between the right click menu and the arrow icon is with 
> respect to Fitts law: The pixel where you already are is always the most 
> esily accessible. This is a big reason why the right click menu is so 
> damn useful: No need to move the mouse, no need to position the cursor 
> on a limited-size target (arrow icon or menu toolbar).
> 
How about if  were bound to the arrow menu (top left)?  Presently,
it's bound to the menu bar.Then the menu would be available "where
you already are" even if you've opted to turn off the menu bar.

Just my 2 bits, but right clicking to bring up a full menu never made
sense at all to me; especially since the 2.0 branch.  But then again, I
use the keyboard for everything possible (i.e., key mnemonics to access
the menu options, keyboard shortcuts, etc.).

Isn't the right click a contextually based menu option in the majority
of software applications anyway?  That's what I've been brought up to
believe these past 10 years of computing.

Eric Pierce

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Re: [Gimp-user] Tiff compression options

[Eric P]

jpeg compression is lossy by definition.  There is no such thing as
lossless jpeg compression.

Personally, I only LZW (which is lossless) for tiff.  I cannot think of
any reason why you would ever want to use jpeg compression for a tiff
over a straight jpeg format. I've had zero experience experience with
the Pack Bits and Deflate options.

On a side note, at work we have high spec color laser jet printer that
happens to have scanning capabilities as well.  For some reason, the
tiffs it creates are tiff w/jpeg compression with NO option to change it
to other any other compression type or even muck with the jpeg
compression setting.  I noticed that the Gimp doesn't give any option
either for the jpeg compression setting when saving as a tiff.

On Sat, 2005-04-16 at 22:46 +0200, cedric wrote:
> Reading Tiff specs for Scribus Team, we saw that Tiif could have JPEG
> compression. We add a simple question : is gimp implementation of Tiff
> jpeg compression lossless ? And in which case use one or another
> compression options ?
> 
> regards.
> Cedric
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[Gimp-user] Script-fu inclusion for 2.4

[Eric P]

I made a Script-fu script that I find indispensable for pushing pixels
at work.  It's called Rounded Selection, and it does just that.

Here's its Gimp registry home:
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4937

And here's a direct link:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/selection-rounded-selection.scm

What are the chances of a poor country boy getting this included 2.4?  I
think others in the graphic field would find this plugin as useful as I
do.

Thanks,
Eric P.

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[Gimp-user] Re: Script-fu inclusion for 2.4

[Eric P]

And here's a quick visual of what it does.
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimpOn 4/27/05, Eric P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I made a Script-fu script that I find indispensable for pushing pixels
at work.  It's called Rounded Selection, and it does just that.Here's its Gimp registry home:http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=4937And here's a direct link:
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/selection-rounded-selection.scmWhat are the chances of a poor country boy getting this included 
2.4?  Ithink others in the graphic field would find this plugin as useful as Ido.Thanks,Eric P.

Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Script-fu inclusion for 2.4

[Eric P]

On Thu, 2005-04-28 at 20:57 +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Eric P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >And here's a quick visual of what it does.
> >http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp
> 
> Should probably register next to the Rounded Rectangle script instead
> of to the bottom of the menu. Try to use /Select/Modify.
> 
Done.

Thanks for the tip.  
Eric P.

> 
> Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] Yet another collection of brushes and patterns..

[Eric P]

The examples look beautiful!  Do you have any tutorials/techniques you 
can share on how you create such nice naturalism in the Gimp?

Also, could you provide an archive of your brushes/patterns etc. for 
easier download (zip/tgz/whatever)?

Thanks,
Eric P.
Rene Jensen wrote:
Howdy folks, and thanks for a great program.
I don't know where you keep you link section for external resources, but
if you want to add my brushes and patterns, feel free to do so. All is
free and homemade so no strings attached. I use most of it for game
graphics, and it works sweet. One do have to figure out how to use them
first, though :)
I add to the collection every now and then. 

Stuff: http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/
Examples of use: http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/examples/
Have fun and keep coding, it makes the world happy..
Sincerely
Rene Jensen
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Re: [Gimp-user] Yet another collection of brushes and patterns..

[Eric P]

Rene,
I just have to reiterate... these brushes and patterns are second to 
none!  Have you considered what kind of license to attach to your work? 
 If possible, it would be wonderful if a majority of these were added 
to the default Gimp install (devs, listening?).

Everyone else, please try out the plethora of animated brushes Rene has 
created and tell me if your jaw doesn't drop.  Ditto for the patterns.

I think several (not all) of the current default brushes and patterns 
could go away, and Rene's work added.  Rene's are all much higher 
quality (resolution and [subjectively] visually).

Eric P.
Rene Jensen wrote:
Howdy folks, and thanks for a great program.
I don't know where you keep you link section for external resources, but
if you want to add my brushes and patterns, feel free to do so. All is
free and homemade so no strings attached. I use most of it for game
graphics, and it works sweet. One do have to figure out how to use them
first, though :)
I add to the collection every now and then. 

Stuff: http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/
Examples of use: http://www.artcamilla.dk/vaultage/examples/
Have fun and keep coding, it makes the world happy..
Sincerely
Rene Jensen
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Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

[Eric P]

Kent Tong wrote:
Disadvantage of GIMP
- Text tool
It is limited.  But there are a few enhancements planned for the next 
release (ex. letter spacing).
-- Can't display Chinese in the "GIMP Text Editor"
Not true for Japanese, so I'm sure this applies to Chinese.  See 
http://epierce.freeshell.org/misc/gimp_japanese.png
-- Can't control indivitual text format in the same Text. (The format applies to
the whole text)
True.
-- Compare to PhotoShop, creating text effect is difficult. Photoshop built in
text effects. GIMP can only use the filter or script-fu to create effect. 
True.  There are no dynamic text effects.
-- Compare to PhotoShop, text effect will still be apply even the Text is
changed. But you need to do everything again if you text need to be changed.
True.
-- Can't display Chinese font in the font selection list.
Not true for Japanese, so I'm sure this applies to Chinese. See 
http://epierce.freeshell.org/misc/gimp_japanese_font.png
- Layers control
-- Can't display Chinese in the Layer.
Not true for Japanese, so I'm sure this applies to Chinese.  See 
http://epierce.freeshell.org/misc/gimp_japanese.png
-- Compare to PhotoShop, managing the layers is not that easy. You can define
layers to groups in Photoshop. You can even target an action to a group. No
group idea in GIMP.
Not sure about this one.
Make sure you're running within a Chinese language environment. Assuming 
you're running Linux, from the command line type: env|grep LANG

On my system, it outputs:  LANG=ja_JP.UTF-8   (running Japanese in UTF-8)
To list which Chinese languages are available, try:  locale -a|grep ^zh
I get...
zh_CN
zh_CN.gb18030
zh_CN.gbk
zh_CN.utf8
zh_HK
zh_HK.utf8
zh_SG
zh_SG.gbk
zh_SG.utf8
zh_TW
zh_TW.euctw
zh_TW.utf8
I don't know which one you need, but try running the Gimp with something 
like:
export LANG=zh_CN.utf8 && gimp

Now my Gimp interface looks like this: 
http://epierce.freeshell.org/misc/gimp_chinese.png

I don't know how to input Chinese, so I can't show you any screenshots 
for that, but I think you're best bet is to pick Chinese as your default 
language when installing Linux (assuming you're running Linux of 
course).  Not sure how it would work for Windows.

Hope that helps.
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] when even free advertising fails

[Eric P]

David Marrs wrote:
I 
*am* very grateful for the GIMP and think it says much for the spirit of 
free software. I also think it has some way to go before it becomes a 
mature product, 
Huh... the Gimp is not "mature"?  Thank you for sharing that.  I 
honestly didn't know!

Shit... and while I'm at it, I best let my boss know ASAP that he's been 
paying me in a professional capacity to use an app that's not "mature".

It's a wonder I've gotten anything done at all!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Disadvantage of GIMP when compared to Photoshop

[Eric P]

Simon Budig wrote:
Are you aware of the fact, that Photoshop on the Mac does not
have such a "main window"?
Hmmm... *me looks at some Mac/PS screen shots*Interesting.
I never noticed that.  But doesn't it still behave as one instance of 
the program when flipping between programs (i.e., essentially like the 
Windows version)?

On Linux, I have no problem using a desktop solely for the Gimp, but on 
Windows (at work) I end up using a multi-desktop switcher to keep 
windows from getting out of hand (in numbers).  Unfortunately, all the 
multi-desktop switcher programs I've tried (VirtuaWin, MegaScale 
MultiDesktop Manager, & MS Virtual Desktop Manager) are a tad buggy 
and/or don't implement as well as the Unix model of multiple desktops.
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Re: [Gimp-user] How to ask the ML in english ?

[Eric P]

Run it from the command line like this.
export LANG=en_US && gimp
Pierre-Alexis wrote:
Hello,
I would like to ask the ML for some specific
questions. The problem is that I use a localized
version of The Gimp. How could I translate the menus
into english in order to explain you all my questions
? Is there another way than just reinstalling The Gimp
with an english locale ?
Thanks.
Pierre-Alexis.
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[Gimp-user] 'Pick a layer or guide' suggestion

[Eric P]

I have a handful of Gimp images that have 50+ layers.
With the move tool's 'Pick a layer or guide' selected, I can quickly 
find where a particular layer is in the stack with a left click. 
However, as soon as I let go of the mouse, I've lost where the layer is 
as the selected layer switches back to the layer that was selected 
prior.  Now I have to remember about how far down the layer, remember 
the layer name and dig to find it so I can work on it.

Wouldn't it make sense to have the layer you've just picked in this 
manner automatically become the selected layer?

Opinions please.
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] 'Pick a layer or guide' suggestion

[Eric P]

Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:
On Monday 16 May 2005 22:32, Eric P wrote:
I have a handful of Gimp images that have 50+ layers.
With the move tool's 'Pick a layer or guide' selected, I can
quickly find where a particular layer is in the stack with a left
click. However, as soon as I let go of the mouse, I've lost where
the layer is as the selected layer switches back to the layer that
was selected prior.  Now I have to remember about how far down the
layer, remember the layer name and dig to find it so I can work on
it.
Wouldn't it make sense to have the layer you've just picked in this
manner automatically become the selected layer?
Opinions please.

Hi Eric!
What you describes was the default behaviour of the GIMP uyp to the 
2.0 series.

When the new behavioyr was introduced, people perceived exactly what 
you are asking for. Then, the old behaviour was made available via  a 
setting in the preferences dialog (in the tool setting, I believe).
Hey Joao,
Hmm... all I see is 'Pick a layer or guide' and 'Move the current 
layer'.  Neither of these do what I'm talking about.  Exactly what 
preference are you referring to?

Thanks,
Eric P.
Regards,
JS
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising

[Eric P]

Dave Neary wrote:

>
> I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that 
Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see 
better products, and more products,


I'd like to be able to order one of those Pixel Pusher shirts.  The 
plain white with Wilbur is boring IMO.



> as well as formalising the cut we get from merchandising (this is 
currently an informal arrangement, I think that we should get an 
engagement on paper).


Yes.  This is very important.


> For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the 
arm (which I'm OK with)


How does the Gimp benefit from this?  Does WalMart get to put their logo 
on the Fruit of the Loom shirts they sell?  Of course not.


Personally, I think their logo has no place being on the shirt in any 
permanent form.  I'd definitely look elsewhere for a shirt vendor if 
they're insistent on their logo appearing on any of the Gimp product.  I 
will help you find one if need be.



> , and they would like to be our official merchandiser
If you can pan out everything mentioned above/below equitably, then I 
don't see a problem with this.


> - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of 
prominence on the front page.


Once again... how does the Gimp benefit from such an arrangement? 
Webspace comes at a premium in the industry I work in.  Of course, the 
Gimp isn't a company, but that's not to say we shouldn't be selective 
who we contract to do our merchandising.



> That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people?

No.

I honestly don't mean to be so negative, but what you've proposed just 
doesn't look good at all.


Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising

[Eric P]

Dave Neary wrote:


I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that Federico 
at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see better 
products, and more products, 


I'd like to be able to order one of those Pixel Pusher shirts.  The 
plain white with Wilbur is boring IMO.


as well as formalising the cut we get from 
merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I think that 
we should get an engagement on paper).

Yes.  This is very important.

For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the arm 
(which I'm OK with)
How does the Gimp benefit from this?  Does WalMart get to put their logo 
on the Fruit of the Loom shirts they sell?  Of course not.


Personally, I think their logo has no place being on the shirt in any 
permanent form.  I'd definitely look elsewhere for a shirt vendor if 
they're insistent on their logo appearing on any of the Gimp product.  I 
will help you find one if need be.


, and they would like to be our official merchandiser
If you can pan out everything mentioned above/below equitably, then I 
don't see a problem with this.


- that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, and a place of 
prominence on the front page.
Once again... how does the Gimp benefit from such an arrangement? 
Webspace comes at a premium in the industry I work in.  Of course, the 
Gimp isn't a company, but that's not to say we shouldn't be selective 
who we contract to do our merchandising.




That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people?

No.

I honestly don't mean to be so negative, but what you've proposed just 
doesn't look good at all.


Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:

What exactly does this arrangement involve? We can hardly decide
anything w/o knowing what we are talking about. Does it mean that
sourcewear will be the only official merchandiser?


Personally, I think there should be one 'Merchandise' link on the front 
page which links to another page listing ALL the companies/organizations 
that have Gimp merchandise.  Let them all duke it out.


Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: [Gimp-developer] GIMP merchandising

[Eric P]

Simon Budig wrote:


   And should we ever need a bigger amount of silkscreened shirts and we
   know in advance that a certain amount gets sold immediately, I'd like
   to suggest Petra / Kernelconcepts and I can guarantee immediate
   control over the artwork and the quality of the shirt.
   As in Me sitting in their offices.



How about one of the Pixel Pusher shirts?  I'd love to buy one of those.

Eric P.

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Re: [Gimp-user] use of the Space key

[Eric P]

might be a good idea to follow that example. If we did that, pressing
Space would keep the current tool but the cursor would change to a
hand symbol and one could drag the image display (not the content!)
using the mouse.

Any opinions on that, anyone?


I'm in favor.

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Updates

[Eric P]

Carol Spears wrote:

On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:50:31PM +0300, Erika De Jesus wrote:


Carol Spears wrote:



interesting.

could you expand on the comparison for me?  i do not see any
similarities and i am interested to see what similarities you see
between the two separately licensed, separately funded softwares that do
completely different tasks on my computer.

help me with this one 

carol



it's like this carol.

firefox is expanded by millions of users worldwide by submitting themes,
plugins, and extensions. i think pierre was talking about gimp should be
the same. that it should also be expanded by users, since it is also 
open source.

the comparison is:
GIMP: open source app
is to
Firefox: open source app



Firefox has the support of Time Warner.  I watched it get pushed on
television.

it is like this.  there is a really good chance that FireFox users are
the sort of people who can install software and use it without the help
of the operating system.  this sets them apart.

it might also mean that it has a bunch of users that think "whee! it is
free so it is cool".

gimp-users get savvy windows users who can find and install software on
their own and idiot linux users who need the distribution to install it.

your enthusiasm for both the software is really nice and not misguided.
the enthusiasm will change when you see how all of this stuff really
works.

dollar for dollar, i prefer an environment where a ruling party cannot
dictate what i put on carol.gimp.org.  actually, i enjoy watching some
of them try to tell me to remove something.

you are comparing free software with software that has received much
funding and backing.  it could be considered rude.  please research the
different communities and environments before making these comparisons.

i actually had the honor of chatting with one of the original developers
from back in the day when the project was cool (Netscape3 and lesser
versions).  heh, in so many ways it was more fun to meet mitchell than
it was to watch larry wall get tom christianson to ask for a waitress
(but the difference is marginal depending on my mood).  all that fund
raising and asskissing of time warner old farts -- it would be rude to
the people who are managing things at mozilla to suggest that gimp and 
firefox are the same or that they even work together to promote free
software. 


you are asking that the bastard child of gnu/linux live the life of the
not bastard child of a free internet.  i dont think that the bastard
wants a different life.  there is a lot to be said for people who work
through things on their own.  especially if you can say that about such
a large group as we can only imagine the gimp-user base is.

i would rather you not compare gimp to other free software applications.
hell, they cannot even talk about gimp on lugradio.  how is that for
being the bastard!  Yay!




GIMP's plugins
is to
Firefox's extensions



well, how about showing me how it works so well by showing me how to
display an mng in firefox?  gimp faithfully makes them.  mng is a lush
format for animations that improved on gif in so so many ways (in case
being a firefox user you have not heard about it).  lush and free.

carol


C'mon, Carol.  Tell us how you really feel.

Eric P
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[Gimp-user] OT GTK/SuSE/Gimp question

[Eric P]

This is probably way off topic for this ML (so please ignore if you 
want), but it started w/the Gimp, so what hell...


I compiled new versions of atk/glib2/gtk2/pango in order to start 
checking out the 2.3 series of the Gimp.


Everything went fine.  I removed the old atk/glib2/gtk2/pango RPMs along 
w/their respected devel RPMs.  I then make installed (via checkinstall) 
all the new GTK and friends, so I now have lovely round RPMs of each 
package installed.  Now I compiled Gimp 2.3.0, and, yet again, all went 
well.


However, when I run YAST now, it insists on reinstalling the old GTK 
(and friends) devel RPMs.  Of course, I don't want to do that as the new 
header files are already installed.  The RPMs I created (with 
checkinstall) contain the header files.  The RPM packages just weren't 
broken out into 2 RPMs per package (i.e., binary RPM and devel RPM) like 
SuSE and other distros tend to do.


Any tips on this dilemma?

Thanks for reading,
Eric P

Ps. I'm running SuSE 9.2 pro
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Re: [Gimp-user]

[Eric P]

There's a file called ps-menurc in (I think) a folder called 'etc' in 
Gimp's install directory.  This file will map 100+ Photoshop key 
mappings for the Gimp.


Check here for directions on installing this file: 
http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/gimp_ps.php


Stacey Hawkins wrote:
Hello, I am a PhotoShop user very interested in the Gimp.  [Photoshop is 
the ONLY reason that I use Windows currently!!]  I would gladly make 
the switch and provide lots of feedback and pointers to the open source 
community if someone can tell me how to configure ‘short keys’ to mirror 
Adobes.  Is there a script available that can do this?  Thanks to 
everyone, Stacey


 

 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Text along Path.

[Eric P]

nuno alexandre wrote:

Hi,
Is there some way to achieve this with TheGimp ?
http://www.ultraweaver.com/tutorials/textalongpath/index.htm

thanks

nuno


'Curve Bend' under filters can do a similar effect, but I think you'll 
want Inkscape (Inkscape.org) to do it right.  You can export a raster 
image from Inkscape and open it with the Gimp for further editing.


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Re: [Gimp-user] pygtk and 2.3.1

[Eric P]

Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote:

On Tuesday 14 June 2005 12:59, John R. Culleton wrote:


Am running 2.3.0 without incident. I downloaded 2.3.1 and
attempted to configure. I got a message about pygtk-2.0 missing.

What is this, is it essential and where can I find it?

Not a huge deal. 2.3.0 is OK.


From gimp 2.3.1  and ahead, teh gimp python extension is enabled by 
default.


With it in, you get some new plug-ins, but above everythiong else, a 
powrfull high level language to script up the GIMP in better and easy 
ways.
How will this affect Windows' builds for the eventual 2.4 release?  I 
wonder if it will have to be disabled... I hope the Windows compiler 
crew can figure out a way to accommodate this (i.e., compiling with 
Python support)


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[Gimp-user] 2.3.1 on Debian Sarge (stable)

[Eric P]

Has anyone packaged 2.3.1 for Debian Sarge?

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.1 on Debian Sarge (stable)

[Eric P]

Nicholas wrote:

Eric P wrote:


Has anyone packaged 2.3.1 for Debian Sarge?

I did a search at apt-get.org, which is a database for unofficial apt 
repositories and did a search for you under the i386 architecture 
(assuming that is what you use and found this:
http://www1.apt-get.org/search.php?query=gimp&submit=&arch%5B%5D=i386&arch%5B%5D=all 


Thanks, I didn't know about that site (Debian newb here).

Hmm... guess I'll have to compile my own.

Thanks all the same
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Re: [Gimp-user] Blown out highlights (color)

[Eric P]

Richard Nagle wrote:

is there a way to select ³only² the blown out highlight color area
or color pixel?, and tone it down some.


Show us da pic.

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Re: [Gimp-user] sizing photos

[Eric P]

Helen wrote:
> I want a (for example)  8 x 10 inch print. 
> Not sure how much you need to know, but I'm using

> How do  I take this hugh image and give it a size that will print and
> then fit into a standard frame, such as  5 x 7 (inches)  or 8 x 10
> (inches) ?

Image -> Print Size
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Re: [Gimp-user] Question about using psd format.

[Eric P]

> I build my print images in gimp on my Knoppix box but have to send it to
> my wife's apple where the color printer is attached.  It seems logical
> to use
> Photoshop 7 to print the photo on the apple. So I do my gimp thing and
> build an 8.5x11 inches image with a resolution of 300 px/inch. I then
> store it as
> a psd file.
> 
> However, when I open the psd in Photoshop 7, Photoshop declares that the
> image is 35.4x45.8 inches with a resolution of 72 px/inch.  This looks
> like a bug
> to me and since I would expect Photoshop to handle their own format
> correctly,
> I assume that it is a gimp bug.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong?

If all you are doing is printing, then there's no reason to use psd.
You can try png or tif (both of which can handle print resolution data).

I seem to remember running into this problem as well (I use Gimp and PS
at work).  Let us know your results.

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[Gimp-user] Overview doc of Gimp's interface

[Eric P]

I'll be giving a Gimp talk at the local LUG. I'm checking to see if
anyone knows of a nice 1 to 2 page color document (print quality) that
goes over Gimp's default interface (i.e., a screenshot of the toolbox
w/arrows pointing to each tool/tab giving a short explanation of what it
is) and/or the menus.

Under normal circumstances, I could make up something myself, but I have
access to a VERY nice color laser jet printer until tomorrow (Fri.
7/15), and I don't think I'll have time tonight to work something up
(it's my wife's B-day!).

Thanks for reading,
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Re: [Gimp-user] Resolution

[Eric P]

sean wrote:
> I'm learning how to use the Ginp and I have a small problem. The default
> resolution seems to be 7 4dpi when I save my work. I need to send my
> files to a printing company and they require 300 dpi. Can anyone tell me
> how to change the resolution.
> 

Image -> Print Size
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Re: [Gimp-user] tutorial/screenshots

[Eric P]

sam ende wrote:
> i would find it a lot easier to write tutorials and the like if the drop 
> down menus did not disapear when doing screenshots, is there a way to 
> keep them dropped down for screenshots ?
> 

If you run Linux (or maybe some other unices), try this quick 'n dirty
script.

For grabbing the whole screen:
xwd -root | xwdtopnm 2> /dev/null | pnmtopng 2> /dev/null >
/home/buffalo/graphics/screenshots/screen_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_%S`.png

For grabbing a window (it'll give you a crosshair):
xwd | xwdtopnm 2> /dev/null | pnmtopng 2> /dev/null >
/home/buffalo/graphics/screenshots/screen_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_%S`.png

0. Make sure you have the 'netpbm' package installed
1. Copy line (above) into its own file
2. chmod 755 filename
3. place it in your ~/bin folder or a global bin folder
4. make sure you have a directory called ~/graphics/screenshots
5. map both files to a keyboard shortcut via your window manager


Done.
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Re: [Gimp-user] tutorial/screenshots

[Eric P]

Eric P wrote:
> sam ende wrote:
> 
>>i would find it a lot easier to write tutorials and the like if the drop 
>>down menus did not disapear when doing screenshots, is there a way to 
>>keep them dropped down for screenshots ?
>>
> 
> 
> If you run Linux (or maybe some other unices), try this quick 'n dirty
> script.
> 
> For grabbing the whole screen:
> xwd -root | xwdtopnm 2> /dev/null | pnmtopng 2> /dev/null >
> /home/buffalo/graphics/screenshots/screen_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_%S`.png
> 
> For grabbing a window (it'll give you a crosshair):
> xwd | xwdtopnm 2> /dev/null | pnmtopng 2> /dev/null >
> /home/buffalo/graphics/screenshots/screen_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_%S`.png
> 
> 0. Make sure you have the 'netpbm' package installed
> 1. Copy line (above) into its own file
> 2. chmod 755 filename
> 3. place it in your ~/bin folder or a global bin folder
> 4. make sure you have a directory called ~/graphics/screenshots
> 5. map both files to a keyboard shortcut via your window manager
> 
> 
> Done.
> 


A minor improvement to the script (I call it 'xwd_screen_grab' on my
computer).  Now, just map your keyboard shortcuts as follows:

For grabbing a single window
xwd_screen_grab

Grab the whole screen
xwd_screen_grab -root

Here's the script:
#!/bin/bash

arg=''

if [ "$1" = "-root" ]; then
  arg='-root'
fi

xwd $arg | xwdtopnm 2> /dev/null | pnmtopng 2> /dev/null >
/home/dit/graphics/screenshots/screen_`date +%Y%m%d%H%M_%S`.png
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Re: [Gimp-user] Livre sur Gimp

[Eric P]

cedric GEMY wrote:
> 
> No books about Gimp have been published since long a time. 
> 
Exactly.  Where are all the English Gimp 2.x books?  I think I've seen 2
French books so far, and that's it.

I count ~8 Gimp 1.x books on Amazon... I wonder if they didn't make any
money.

It's a shame as the 2.x series just blows heaps and chunks over 1.x.
And it's nicer to look at as well... would make for a nice looking (and
useful) book.

My 2 bits.
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[Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3.x on Debian

[Eric P]

I can't remember if I asked this before or not, but does anybody make
any 2.3.x packages for deb?

I used to compile my own these past few years on Suse w/checkinstall to
stay up on development progress, but since switching to Debian earlier
this year I haven't got back on board.

I think I tried compiling 2.3.1 back a few months ago, but checkinstall
failed to make a deb package... (going off a foggy memory).

Can anyone spank me onto the straight and narrow here?

Thanks for reading...
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.3.x on Debian

[Eric P]

Carol Spears wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:42:55AM +0200, Michael Schumacher wrote:
> 
>>>Von: Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>>On Tue, Oct 04, 2005 at 09:50:36PM -0500, Eric P wrote:
>>
>>>>I can't remember if I asked this before or not, but does anybody make
>>>>any 2.3.x packages for deb?
>>
>>>it is easy to build your own on debian.  i build mine in /usr/local
>>>though so, it is not the same as getting it from them.
>>
>>If I'm not mistkane, it is not advised to install into any /usr prefix - the
>>release notes mention /opt, and I've chosen a directory in my $HOME.
>> 
> 
> it is the configure default.
> 
> 
>>For simply testing the 2.3 releases, I wouldn't create a Debian package,
>>just install it where it can do no harm to your system.
>>
> 
> you can even have both, although they share the */2.0/* directory name.
> better to make sure before you try to install your own that you do not
> have debians libgimp-dev.  let the distribution only have lib-gimp
> binaries.
> 
> carol
> 

Awesome. Thanks for the tips from both of you.  Cool splash photo.

Michael, I took your tip and stuck it in ~/.gimp

You're absolutely right.  Why make a package when I'll just keep
compiling devel releases for a while?

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Re: [Gimp-user] curve corners

[Eric P]

Steve Stavropoulos wrote:
> On 10/13/05, Jad Madi wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>how to create curve corners with Gimp like these ones
>>http://www.sitepoint.com/examples/roundcorners/box-corners5.htm
>>
> 
> 
>  Select a rectangle with the dimensions you like and then use
> select->rounded rectangle (I think in gimp <= 2.2 is somewhere under
> script-fu). You can fill it with the color you like by dragging the
> color on the selection (or Edit->Fill with FG color).
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Or there's Rounded Selection under the Selection menu.
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Re: [Gimp-user] lighten background

[Eric P]

Akkana Peck wrote:
> Helen writes:
> 
>>I have a photo of a dark red flower against a dark background.
>>I've tried tedious ways to lighten the background without changing the
>>flower,
>>but the details of the flower are too tiny. So I'm browsing tutorials.
>>Should I
>>be learning about masks? About layers? A hint how I can approach this?
> 
> 
> Selection is what you need to be learning about: you need to
> selecting the flower and not the background, or vice versa,
> so that you can run a lightening tool (brightness-contrast, levels,
> or curves) on the background without affecting the flower.
> 
> There are lots of ways of selecting: you could use paths then turn
> the path into a selection, or you could use select by color or
> intelligent scissors to make an approximate selection, then use the
> quick mask to fine tune it and get it perfect.
> 
> For any of these techniques (maybe not siox), zoom in a lot so you
> can see what you're doing and make sure you get all the fine
> details. That's why these tools are better than something like
> Lasso select that doesn't let you zoom in.
> 
> If you can run the development version of GIMP (2.3), the new siox
> tool works quite well for flowers against a contrasting background.
> 
> A couple other tips: you'll probably want a few pixels of feathering
> (but you can feather a selection after the fact, from the Select
> menu), and you'll want to use View->Toggle Selection (ctrl-T) a lot
> to turn off the selection boundary while you're adjusting the
> brightness of the background, to make sure you don't get an obvious
> looking jump at the selection boundary (if you do, try feathering more).
> 

I agree with everything here except I'd use a mask instead of a
selection.  A selection can be a bit too fleeting for a something as
tedious as your task.

Eric
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Re: [Gimp-user] lighten background

[Eric P]

> 
> I agree with everything here except I'd use a mask instead of a
> selection.  A selection can be a bit too fleeting for a something as
> tedious as your task.
> 
> Eric
> 

"tedious" = I probably should have used "detailed".  I didn't realize
how that came off...

Eric
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Re: [Gimp-user] Space Between Letters

[Eric P]

Wade Smart wrote:
> 11232005 1246 GMT-5
> 
> I want to put some extra space between letters of some words without
> actually putting in a 'space' from the space bar. How does one do that?
> 

You want some kind of kerning adjustment.  The text tool in the 2.3.x series 
has such an adjustment for the text tool.  It's just below the 'line spacing' 
adjustment in the text tool options.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Editing .psd files

[Eric P]

Demetrius Jones wrote:
> I was wondering if there is a way to edit files that were created in
> Adobe Photoshop.   I can open a .psd file in the Gimp but I cannot seem
> to be able to manipulate the image layers.  

Hmm.. that should work (i.e., editing indiv. layers).  As Carol mentioned 
though, psd text layers aren't dynamically editable in the Gimp.  The Gimp will 
merely render the text layers as pixels.

I worked for a few years w/a Photoshop user (I think he had PS CS).  
The caveats I learned from sharing files between the Gimp and PS were (from 
memory): 
1. can't use masks in the Gimp and save to psd - they won't make it.  Never 
figured out if the Gimp properly read in mask from PS though.
2. text layers just get rendered as pixel info - still look the same, but 
cannot be dynamically altered.

Everything else I did transferred correctly when I saved to psd, so I could be 
productive and maintain my ethics (i.e., Open Source or death).

I did read that the 2.3.x series of the Gimp has improvements to the psd 
filter.  Not sure what they are though.

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Re: [Gimp-user] template for sawtooth border wanted

[Eric P]

Axel Wernicke wrote:
> Hi list,
> 
> I'm one of the members of the gimp documentation team and want to ask 
> you for a favour. To reduce the size of all the screenshots to the 
> clipping that is of relevance I'm in need of a template that I can 
> easily  use to cut of the unwanted borders. To make clear that there  is
> something cut of from the picture, the border should be look  similar to
> a sawtooth - an irregular one - bit hard to describe, but  I'm pretty
> sure you know what I mean.
> 
> 
> Any gfx wizards out there that want to support the GIMP manual??  Thats
> you chance!
> 
> Greetings, lexA
> 
> ---
> Live is like a chocolate box, you never know what you wanna get...
> GPG Signatur auf http://wernicke-online.net/Impressum/ prüfen
> 

Here's a ripped paper effect I did once.
http://web.archive.org/web/20040402184426/http://bobkerbearings.com/

Kinda cool.
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Re: [Gimp-user] old GIMP screenshots wanted

[Eric P]

Axel Wernicke wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> a week ago I translated a chapter of the GIMP manual that is dealing 
> with the GIMP history. Given the fact that this is about ten years of 
> open source and contribution involving lots of lots of people I was 
> curious if there aren't a couple of screenshots from the early stages 
> of GIMP (versions prior 1.2) available. So, if you have such an old 
> image or even have one of the ancient versions up and running  somewhere
> I'd be really happy if you would mail it to may. If  possible a note on
> which version the screenshot shows and from which  platform it was taken
> would even enhance the fun of it.
> So, if there is anybody who want to help and possibly see his own 
> desktop see published in the manual send me an email.
> 
> Since bin attachments are for good reason not wanted on this list 
> please send it to axel . wernicke AT gmx . de
> 
> Thanks and greetings,
> 

You might also want to check here.
ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/historical

I've compiled either 0.54 or 0.6 not all that long ago.  I'll try again.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Patterns

[Eric P]

Carol Spears wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2005 at 08:17:31AM +1100, Owen wrote:
> 
>>Carol Spears wrote:
>>
>>
>>>it would be interesting to find out what resolutions and what catagories
>>>of patterns the users of gimp would find useful.
>>
>>
>>I don't have 7MP camera, but I assume if you want to fill a selection of
>>a 7MP image with a Gimp pattern it would come out all clunky?
>>
> 
> well, larger resolution for larger images.  i really do work at many
> different sizes.  print needs a lot and web stuff needs a little.
> sometimes things scale nicely just by making them smaller, but sometimes
> it is not the case.  
> 
> it might be good to discuss what a useful upper limit would be for image
> size.
> 
> 
>>What happens if I have a low res image and want to fill it with a hi-res
>>pattern,  will it be obscured?
>>
>>Perhaps (as usual) I do not understand.
>>
> 
> you will get a small portion of a pattern instead of a repeating image.
> 
> 
>>Anyway additions to the pattern collection would no doubt be welcome.
>>Perhaps an upload area on the Gimp site (like the GUG site) to allow
>>patterns to be contributed.
>>
> 
> i have been thinking about this some.  it seems like such a site would
> be very popular at first and then lose its appeal and interest.  at
> least there is the threat of that.
> 
> the gimp wiki has been suggested.  i do not keep much of an eye on that.
> i wonder if there might not already be a pattern collection there
> even
> 
> carol
> 

I'm not sure what the license is for these patterns, but they showed
up around 1 year ago (?) and gave my pattern collection a much
needed breath of fresh air.

http://artcamilla.dk/vaultage/cornucopia/gimp-patterns/

They're larger in pixel size than the default gimp patterns, and
extremely tasteful in my (er... extremely subjective) opinion.

Of course, as Carol mentioned, they will add significant bloat to
the file size of Gimp.  Oh, here's an idea!  What if the Gimp (like
Firefox, etc.) had a prominent button in the patterns dialog like
"click here to d/l more patterns", and the user is automatically
whisked to a webpage containing extra patterns?  Now, that'd be
cool!  You could do it for brushes, scripts, etc!  That'd be spiffy!

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[Gimp-user] Crop tool in 2.3.6

[Eric P]

The crop tool and dialog in 2.3.6 have some really excellent
improvements over the old one.  Great work dev!

I have one question: is it still possible to do a 'crop from
selection' like in Gimp < 2.3?  I seem to be missing that option in
the new dialog.

Thanks,
Eric P.
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[Gimp-user] 'File Exists' in 2.3.6

[Eric P]

Maybe this deserves a bug report, but something I've noticed in
2.3.6 is that it always alerts me that a 'A File Named ... Already
Exists' upon saving any file regardless whether is truly exists or not.

Can anyone else confirm this?  Just create a new document and save
and see what it says.

FYI, my 2.3.6 was compiled on Debian Testing.
gtk 2.6.5
glib 2.8.4

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crop tool in 2.3.6

[Eric P]

Carol Spears wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 03:10:59PM -0600, Eric P wrote:
> 
>>The crop tool and dialog in 2.3.6 have some really excellent
>>improvements over the old one.  Great work dev!
>>
>>I have one question: is it still possible to do a 'crop from
>>selection' like in Gimp < 2.3?  I seem to be missing that option in
>>the new dialog.
>>
> 
> i must admit, i missed this at first as well and discussed it with
> mitch
> 
> crop from selection is gone.  instead, /Image/Crop and
> /Layer/Crop are there.  two steps less for me and i do not have
> the problem of having the crop tool toggled to work on only one layer
> when i did not need it or want it any longer.
> 
> carol
> 
> 

Awesome.  I didn't even get off my lazy butt to look around at the
other options.  However, I'm not sure if I would have recognized
them.  I think 'Crop Image from Selection' and 'Crop Layer from
Selection' might be a tad clearer in the menu.  That is the sole
purpose of these procedures, isn't it (since they're grayed out
until a selection is made)?

Anywho, I'm just glad those procedures are there.  I'd be lost
otherwise.

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] 'File Exists' in 2.3.6

[Eric P]

Carol Spears wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 03:19:56PM -0600, Eric P wrote:
> 
>>Maybe this deserves a bug report, but something I've noticed in
>>2.3.6 is that it always alerts me that a 'A File Named ... Already
>>Exists' upon saving any file regardless whether is truly exists or not.
>>
>>Can anyone else confirm this?  Just create a new document and save
>>and see what it says.
>>
> 
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309729
> 
Ulp, I should've done my homework before bugging the list.

> the fact that you noticed this bug means (to me) that you are really
> giving this file selector a work out.  
> 
Well, the GTK file selector is barely useful in my opinion.  I don't
use KDE, but they've had their file selector in good working order
for a couple years now.  Even Crackdoze is better (ack!)

> for me, i get that warning everytime i type in a new location to that
> dialog.  like i am working in /home/carol/images and want to save
> something in /tmp so i type /tmp/image.xcf into the file selector to
> save time and button pushing madness.
But I get the false alert _anytime_ I save a new file.  I'm not
doing anything at all exotic as the initial bug reporter posted (or
as you are doing).  I just make a new file, try to save (in whatever
is the current working directory), and I'm alerted.

> 
> what i don't like, and i am finding it difficult to articulate (as you
> will soon see, perhaps) is that when i am finally have the damn thing in
> the directory i want to make the save in and i start to type the first
> few characters, it gives me a list of files that are already named like
> that.  
And directories!

> the default response is to give you opportunity to save a
> different image with the same name.  more useful to me would be to be
> able to save a new image and have the file selector understand that and
> fill in the first few characters sequentially.
Sequentially??  I guess I don't follow.
> 
> what could i call that?  like if you made it work with the  so
> pressing  there would fill in similar characters but would stop
> before suggesting saving over an existing image.  what would that be
> called?
Hmm sounds similar to tab completion but a little different
since tab completion will finally fill in the complete file
name/directory if it's unique.
> 
> it makes me wonder what the gtk+ developers are doing that they need to
> save over existing files more often than making new ones.
GTK excels in so many areas.  I just wish they'd overhaul (again)
the file selector.  Oh well, I should stop bitching and help out,
shouldn't I?  So many projects... so little time.

Eric P
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[Fwd: Re: [Gimp-user] Checkerboard Pattern Fill]

[Eric P]

Mohamed El Dawy wrote:
> Hello,
>  I hope you are very fine.
>  
>  I was wondering, is there a way in GIMP to fill an area such that
> alternately, one pixel is colored and the other is not? For example, if
> I color a perfect square, I should end up with a chessboard pattern on
> it (on the pixel level).
>  
> Thank you very much in advance :)
> 
> 
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Get on board. You're invited
> 
> to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
> 
> 
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You can do that by making your own pattern.

It's easy.  Just create a 2x2 image of the checkerboard you want repeated.  
Save as a pattern (.pat I think).

Move the pattern file to the 'patterns' directory.  Without even restarting 
Gimp, click the refresh button at the bottom
of the patterns dialog.  Now you can use your pattern however you please.

Eric

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[Gimp-user] 2.3.10 kudos!

[Eric P]

Hey, the new marquee tool is awesome!  I can't tell you how many times I 
struggled to get an oval selection around some
preexisting oval shape.  I would use guides and usually do it over about 5-10 
times before I got.  Now it's a breeze!
Great job, devs!

The splash for 2.3.10 is choice as well.  It's easily one of my favorites.

The tango icons are a little bland IMO.  They lack the nice color contrast that 
the 2.x icons had.  Is the old set
included in the install?

I don't know when this feature was introduce, but being able to drag an image 
from the image history to a new email in
Thunderbird and have it automatically become an attachment is excellent.  Also, 
being able to drag any image from
Firefox to Gimp's toolbox and have it open in the Gimp is genious!

Always fun to watch this app get better and better.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Eric P]

Jakub Steiner wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-09-29 at 12:38 -0600, Roland Hordos wrote:
> 
> what Sven possibly meant here was for you to prove that the name GIMP is
> a reason why the product isn't used in a professional IT setting,
> whatever that is. I have been using GIMP professionally for over 5 years
> and Novell, Inc. for example doesn't have a problem selling it as part
> of their enterprise OS.
> 

Here's one example for you.

I've used GIMP for about 5 years in a professional capacity at 2 different 
places of employment.  At the first place, I
was in a marketing department.  We all had Photoshop installed, but I used GIMP 
95% of the time.  The VP of marketing
would always smirk and make some dorky comment whenever he was looking over my 
shoulder and asked what software I was
using.  Basically, he didn't take GIMP as very serious software due to its 
name.  Granted, if he took the time to let me
show him how awesome GIMP is, he would come around.  But he simply doesn't have 
the time for that (not a hands-on
graphics guy), but he makes the final say of which graphic software packages we 
use/purchase.  That's a piece of US
culture for you that's not tied into the OS market.

Personally, I think the name should change not because I find GIMP derogatory 
but because I think a name that somewhat
identified (even vaguely) what sphere the software is used it would be a boon.

Inkscape is an excellent name in my opinion.  It is somewhat ambiguous, but you 
definitely know that software named
Inkscape must have something to do with the artistic sphere.  That's all you 
really need.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Eric P]

Owen wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Sep 2006 06:54:48 -0600
> 
> I suspect it might just be an issue local to a country, like durex is a 
> condom in the UK, sticky tape here
> 
Thanks for clarifying that.  I've always wondered why I can't get those suckers 
off!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Please Change the Derogatory Name

[Eric P]

Geoffrey wrote:
> Michael Schumacher wrote:
>> Roland Hordos wrote:
>>
>>> If you can point out a single commercial product that has mass use in
>>> North America that has a derogatory term in it's title,
>>> I'll withdraw my critique and be gone. 
> 
> Hooters the restaurant.
> 

Not really a "product" per se, but I'd say you nailed it.

Personally, I would never be caught dead in a Hooters.  Your example leads me 
to believe you'd equate the quality of
GIMP users with the quality of Hooter's clientele.  Maybe that wasn't your 
intention... (boy, this thread has gone nutty).

Eric

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Re: [Gimp-user] Blocking of Alan on the name topic

[Eric P]

Well put, Ben.

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs. Photoshop

[Eric P]

I'm lazy, and I don't feel like reading this entire thread (it seems to show up 
on a regular basis on the list).

Were any new, constructive insights brought up?  Anyone care to summarize this 
thread on this exhausting topic?

EP
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Re: [Gimp-user] CD Labels

[Eric P]

Alan Wolfe wrote:
> what do sticky labels do to cds? they chemically alter them or
> something?  It seems like the topside could get damaged but that the
> bottomside would remain fine but i guess not eh?
> 
> On 1/10/07, Akkana Peck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Michael Satterwhite writes:
>>> I was going to burn some Gimp CD's to distribute at our IBM (Brotherhood
>>> of Magicians - not Business Machines) Ring. Does anyone know of any CD
>>> labels that someone has made? Would look better than me just writing
>>> "Gimp" on the front with a sharpie.
>> I have a script-fu to make the template:
>> http://shallowsky.com/software/cdplugins/
>>
>> I haven't used it in years, since I found out what sticky labels do
>> to CD longevity (I lost a bunch of vacation photos I'd burned
>> only a couple of years earlier), but for handing out festive CDs to
>> a group, labels do make sense and they're fun to make.
>>
>> --
>>...Akkana
>>"Beginning GIMP: From Novice to Professional": http://gimpbook.com

The data layer on a CD is, to be technical, just a hair below the top of the 
CD.  I've even heard that CDs/DVDs written
on w/markers (Sharpie, etc.) will be compromised quicker that w/o.  I know they 
(Sharpie) now makes markers specifically
for writing on CDs/DVDs.  I have some right here and the package says, 
"Specially formulated ink for digital media".
Whatever the hell that means.  But that's definitely a vote for never using a 
normal Sharpie on a disc!

If you really want to mark your discs and not worry about screwing up the data 
layer, it's probably a safe bet to write
in the inner (transparent) ring area.  That's the only place I'll write on a 
CD/DVD anymore.

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Re: [Gimp-user] CD Labels

[Eric P]

Matthias Julius wrote:
> Eric P <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
>> The data layer on a CD is, to be technical, just a hair below the top of the 
>> CD.  I've even heard that CDs/DVDs written
>> on w/markers (Sharpie, etc.) will be compromised quicker that w/o.  I know 
>> they (Sharpie) now makes markers specifically
>> for writing on CDs/DVDs.  I have some right here and the package says, 
>> "Specially formulated ink for digital media".
>> Whatever the hell that means.  But that's definitely a vote for never using 
>> a normal Sharpie on a disc!
> 
> Is it more expensive that a normal Sharpie?
> 
Um... I don't recall the price.  But I think may have been just a tad more 
expensive than regular Sharpies.

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[Gimp-user] Idea - Color Scheme Generator

[Eric P]

Wouldn't it be cool if GIMP implemented something like this DHTML Color Scheme 
Generator?
http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html

I'm learning GTKMM at the moment.  Not sure when I'll get around to C/GTK+.  
Give me a couple years.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Idea - Color Scheme Generator

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 19:50 -0600, Eric P wrote:
>> Wouldn't it be cool if GIMP implemented something like this DHTML Color 
>> Scheme Generator?
>> http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html
> 
> Tried Agave yet?  http://home.gna.org/colorscheme/
> 
> Not sure if this makes sense as a GIMP plug-in. But if GIMP integration
> is considered important, it would probably be easy to add some code to
> Agave that allows it to be run as a GIMP plug-in.
> 
> 
> Sven
> 
Actually, I just ran across that app a few days ago for the first time.  It's 
GTKMM.

This may sound naive, but is it possible to integrate C++/GTKMM code with GIMP?

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[Gimp-user] 2.3.14 compile - dbus error

[Eric P]

Anybody have any dbus problems compiling 2.3.14?

I get the following:
...snip...
Making all in gui
make[3]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app/gui' に入ります
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app -I../../app 
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/opt/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Gimp-GUI\" 
-pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE
-g -O2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -MT
color-history.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/color-history.Tpo" -c -o color-history.o 
color-history.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/color-history.Tpo" ".deps/color-history.Po"; else rm 
-f ".deps/color-history.Tpo"; exit 1; fi
if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../.. -I../.. -I../../app -I../../app 
-I/usr/include/gtk-2.0
-I/usr/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/usr/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/include/cairo 
-I/usr/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/usr/include/dbus-1.0 
-I/usr/lib/dbus-1.0/include -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -I/opt/include -DG_LOG_DOMAIN=\"Gimp-GUI\" 
-pthread -I/usr/include/glib-2.0
-I/usr/lib/glib-2.0/include   -DGIMP_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED
-DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED 
-DGDK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE -DGTK_MULTIHEAD_SAFE
-g -O2 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wmissing-prototypes 
-Wmissing-declarations -Winit-self -Wpointer-arith -MT
gui.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/gui.Tpo" -c -o gui.o gui.c; \
then mv -f ".deps/gui.Tpo" ".deps/gui.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/gui.Tpo"; 
exit 1; fi
In file included from /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus-glib-lowlevel.h:28,
 from gui.c:27:
/usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:30:2: error: #error "Please define 
DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to acknowledge your
understanding that D-Bus hasn't reached 1.0 and is subject to protocol and API 
churn. See the README for a full
explanation."
make[3]: *** [gui.o] エラー 1
make[3]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app/gui' から出ます
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] エラー 1
make[2]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14/app' から出ます
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] エラー 1
make[1]: ディレクトリ `/home/dit/downloads/gimp-2.3.14' から出ます
make: *** [all] エラー 2


I'm running Kubuntu 6.10, and I have this version of libdbus installed 
(w/header files): 0.93-0ubuntu3.1

I tried commenting out the #error line in dbus.h, and that seemed to get past 
this part.  But then I
get a slew of errors which all look similar to this:
Warning: generating old-style constructor for:gimp_color_display_new
Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.load_state: No ArgType for GimpParasite*
Could not write method GimpColorDisplay.save_state: No ArgType for GimpParasite*

And it ends with this:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 1707, in ?
sys.exit(main(sys.argv))
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 1698, in main
sw.write(py_ssize_t_clean)
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 1340, in write
self.write_classes()
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 1437, in write_classes
instance.write_class()
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 283, in write_class
substdict['tp_methods'] = self.write_methods()
  File "/usr/share/pygtk/2.0/codegen/codegen.py", line 519, in write_methods
methods.append(self.methdef_tmpl %
UnboundLocalError: local variable 'meth' referenced before assignment
make[4]: *** [gimpui.c] エラー 1


Thanks for reading.
Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.3.14 compile - dbus error

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 2007-02-09 at 00:08 -0600, Eric P wrote:
> 
>> /usr/include/dbus-1.0/dbus/dbus.h:30:2: error: #error "Please define 
>> DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to acknowledge your
>> understanding that D-Bus hasn't reached 1.0 and is subject to protocol and 
>> API churn. See the README for a full
>> explanation."
> 
> Your version of D-Bus is outdated. Just do what the error message
> suggests and add #define DBUS_API_SUBJECT_TO_CHANGE to gui.c just before
> the d-bus headers are included.
> 
> Your copy of the Python Glib bindings are broken. There's a patch for it
> in Bugzilla. It's on the pygtk project if I remember correctly.
> Alternatively you can disable the Python plug-in when configuring gimp.
> 
> 
Thanks.  Those tips got me through the compile.

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[Gimp-user] ?yvind's GEGL talk from FOS DEM

[Eric P]

?yvind's GEGL presentation from FOSDEM last weekend is online.
http://www.fosdem.org/2007/media/video

I watched the first 15 min.  Pretty exciting stuff.

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Re: [Gimp-user] A tip of those who use GIMP in Windows

[Eric P]

Philip Stubbs wrote:
> On 09/03/07, Ben Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> GIMP has a dialog called "images", which most of you are probably aware
>> of.  Have you ever considered using it somewhat like the Windows
>> taskbar?  I have docked it to my main toolbox and use it to switch
>> between open images as opposed to trying to locate the proper button on
>> the taskbar.  The image dialog offers previews, which are very helpful,
>> and allows one to work with GIMP as if it were self-contained.  Using
>> this in conjunction with a virtual desktop leads to the best solution I
>> have found so far.
> 
Good tip.  I've been using GIMP for years on Windows/Linux, and never noticed 
that dialog.  I wish is was just a single
click to bring up and image instead of a double-click.  Then you could tie a 
keyboard shortcut to the dialog, and just
single-click the image.  Any reason it's a double-click?  Any devs reading this?

> What I do at the moment is I have the main gimp window running down
> the right hand side of my screen, with all the dialogs docked in it. I
> arrange them in groups much the same as they appear in the dialogs
> menu. I cant stand it when there are multiple floating dialogs. Makes
> finding the correct window a real pain.
> 

That's exactly what I do as well.  And I bounce around the dialogs with 
keyboard shortcuts.  Works great.
That along with VirtuaWin (virtual desktops) for Windows seems to keep things 
manageable on Windows.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Wow Linux Journal not very enamoured with GIMP.

[Eric P]

> I really get peeved by these types of articles.  GIMP is GIMP.  Krita is
> Krita.  CinePaint is CinePaint.  Each is a tool.  Use the right tool for
> the job.  There are lots of hammers.  Some are good for some projects.
> Others are good for other projects.  None are good for all projects.  As
> an author, he should know that and write accordingly.  In this case, it
> looks like he's more interested in publicly bashing one tool (which
> would be an opinion piece, which this is not intended to be) instead of
> trying to help his readers (a reference piece or review, which this *is*
> intended to be).
>

Nice retort.  You should consider sending that to LJ's 'reader
letters' section (which I always read as soon as my sub arrives in the
mail).

I've never been able to understand all the excessive bashing that GIMP
regularly gets (UI complaints, color space limitations [which has
never kept me from my day to day work], etc.).  I use GIMP regularly
and pretty much have zero complaints.  It's a great, power horse
application, and has been a solidly pleasant experience to use since
2.* in my opinion.  BTW, I use GIMP mostly for web graphics and some
print.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp - gimpshop - newbie

[Eric P]

> 
> As I wrote in my previous message, the GIMP developers are not opposed
> to some of the ideas included in Gimpshop, if only they were
> implemented in a correct way.  The developers are open to suggestions
> and are looking at alternative solutions whenever possible.  Just
> check the recent usability enhancements in SVN if you are not
> convinced about that.
> 
Raphaël,

I'm all into usability as I use a high ratio of keyboard shortcuts vs. mouse in 
GIMP.  Can you elaborate on some of the
new usability enhancements?  I'm all ears.

For reference, I'm currently running 2.3.14 (which I compiled with default 
compile settings).

Thanks!
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Re: [Gimp-user] Rounding those corners

[Eric P]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Hi gimp-user,
>>
>> How are you creating a single rounded corner, like those used for
>> css boxes with rounded corners.
>>
>> (i.e., http://www.csszengarden.com/063/corner_yelongreen_tr.gif)
>>
>> Or, if you wanted to outline an image's left, bottom, and right, sides
>> and round the lower corners (radius 8), so it would look like a "U"
>> without the tail and a flatter bottom (again for use in CSS
>> background for a round cornered semi-flexible box).
> 
> There is a nice tutorial on GUG (GIMP Users Group) which suggests a method
> (http://gug.sunsite.dk/?page=tutorials). If you wish to have only certain
> corners rounded, I would propose rounding the corners on a duplicate layer
> then erasing the unwanted regions (or use layermasking) to reveal the
> original.
> ___

Here's a script-fu plug-in that uses the technique found at the tutorial link.

http://epierce.freeshell.org/gimp/

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP video podcast / screencast

[Eric P]

> I would be happy about comments and very happy about pointers to
> mistakes or to things I could do better. 
> 
> You can find the podcast at http://meetthegimp.org
> 
> 
> Rolf
> 


I'm absolutely confounded that no one has replied to you yet.

Rolf, excellent work!  I've just begun watching (episode 6) and I am thoroughly 
impressed with the techniques and your
demonstration.

You're providing an excellent resource for GIMP users (both current and 
future).  Keep up the great work, and I'll be
sure to follow your updates.

It would be great if you provided a link for the original images you use in 
your podcast; then we could all follow along.

Thanks again,
Eric
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-announce] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.4.0

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Version 2.4 of the GNU Image Manipulation Program is finally out.
> 

Congratulations on all the hard work!

Eric P
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Re: [Gimp-user] Out of office on Vacation

[Eric P]

Geoffrey さんは書きました:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> I will be out of the office starting  11/16/2007 and will not return until
>> 11/26/2007.
> 
> BIG party at Andy's house on the 25th!
> 
Huh?  It starts on the 16th!

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Re: [Gimp-user] PSD or XCF?

[Eric P]

Jozef Legeny さんは書きました:
> If you need to reuse the image
> in PS afterwards you should save to PSD only after you are not likely
> to edit the image in GIMP again.

This statement is a little confusing.

Basically, always keep your current, up-to-date working image saved as xcf.  If 
a Photoshop user needs to see the work,
save a "copy" of your working file (xcf) to psd.

Another consideration is whether a Photoshop user needs to make edits to the 
file as well.  Well, that's an easy one;
just have them install GIMP!  ;)

Eric
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Re: [Gimp-user] Alt Key

[Eric P]

Geoffrey wrote:
> JC Dill wrote:
> 
>> I can hardly be expected to know about something that hasn't been 
>> incorporated, or has just recently been incorporated but not widely 
>> announced.  As I said - I'm a "potential Gimp user".  I tried it several 
>> years ago, and I am subscribed to this list to stay abreast with the 
>> changes that are discussed on this list.  I don't currently have it 
>> installed.  Like millions of other potential Gimp users, I don't have 
>> time to install and test it every time you release a new version to see 
>> if it's "ready for prime time" yet.  Rather than try to convince me it's 
>> great (while you also admit you are "just beginning" to incorporate 
>> needed changes as a result of a usability evaluation), it would be nice 
>> if you would just admit that it still needs a lot of work, and that you 
>> will let the user (and potential user) community know when you have 
>> actually done the work to make it easier to use for non-programmers.
> 
> 
> Troll back to Photoshop please.
> 
> I for one, appreciate the work the GIMP developers have done and 
> continue to do on this wonderful application.  JC, you just doesn't get 
> it.  I guess you missed the reference to the fact that ALL the work put 
> into GIMP is done by the developers on their time.
> 

My sentiments exactly!

GIMP on!

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Christmas card

[Eric P]

Mike Williams wrote:
> Hi there.  A friend of mine makes his own Christmas cards.  Since this 
> year's card was made with the gimp, and it is on his web site, it seemed 
> fitting to post a link here.
> 
> http://www.garykirby.net/
> 
> Even if you don't celebrate Christmas, it's still a nice image.
> 

Well done!

Eric
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[Gimp-user] Miniaturize effect in GIMP

[Eric P]

This miniaturize effect is a pretty cool yet super simple effect.

This how-to was initially only for Photoshop.  But I've updated the
page (it's a wiki) to include GIMP verbage.
http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Miniaturize_a_Scene

The steps are pretty much 1 to 1 w/the GIMP.  But what they call
"Reflected Gradient" is actually called "Bi-Linear" in
GIMP (silly Adobe).

Here's what I got (darn near what they got).  I also upped the saturation +15.
http://i27.tinypic.com/287ee0.jpg

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] [Gimp-announce] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 2.6.0

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Finally we have done it and released version 2.6.0 of the GNU Image
> Manipulation Program. The changes from version 2.4 are best described in
> the release notes on
> 
Excellent work!  Thank you for your tireless effort over the years on this 
absolutely beautiful and solid piece of
software.  It is a joy to use and always exciting to witness the further 
maturation of this most excellent code base.

Forever thankful,
Eric P.
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[Gimp-user] strange PNG from Adobe Fireworks

[Eric P]

Check out this png.  I'm not sure if it is editable in the GIMP.
http://i34.tinypic.com/rtzshs.png

First of all it's an indexed image.  You'll see two white arrows on the right 
hand side.  Switch the mode to RGB and
you'll see two new alpha transparent arrows appear on the left hand side (!?)

Checking the header of the image I see Adobe Fireworks in there.  Any ideas 
what this anomaly of a png is?

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Re: [Gimp-user] strange PNG from Adobe Fireworks

[Eric P]

Sven Neumann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Fri, 2008-10-17 at 21:26 -0500, Eric P wrote:
>> Check out this png.  I'm not sure if it is editable in the GIMP.
>> http://i34.tinypic.com/rtzshs.png
>>
>> First of all it's an indexed image.  You'll see two white arrows on the 
>> right hand side.  Switch the mode to RGB and
>> you'll see two new alpha transparent arrows appear on the left hand side (!?)
>>
>> Checking the header of the image I see Adobe Fireworks in there.  Any ideas 
>> what this anomaly of a png is?
> 
> rtzshs.png...
>   Image Width: 20 Image Length: 110
>   Bitdepth (Bits/Sample): 2
>   Channels (Samples/Pixel): 1
>   Pixel depth (Pixel Depth): 2
>   Colour Type (Photometric Interpretation):
> PALETTED COLOUR with alpha (3 colours, 3 transparent) 
>   Image filter: Single row per byte filter 
>   Interlacing: No interlacing 
>   Compression Scheme: Deflate method 8, 32k window
>   Resolution: 2834, 2834 (pixels per meter)
>   FillOrder: msb-to-lsb
>   Byte Order: Network (Big Endian)
>   Number of text strings: 1 of 9
> Software (xTXt deflate compressed): Adobe Fireworks CS3
>   Offsets: 0, 0
> 
> This image uses an indexed palette with transparency information. This
> is not fully supported in GIMP. The PNG loader seems to handle it
> nicely, but the GIMP image display has some special code that thresholds
> the alpha channel for images in indexed mode. This is because the code
> was written for GIF images. The projection in indexed mode simulates the
> alpha capabilities of the GIF format, where a pixel is either fully
> transparent or opaque.
> 
> 
> Sven
> 
Thanks for the reply.

Eric P.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Scaling in Gimp 2.6 is much slower than in Gimp 2.4

[Eric P]

Claus Berghammer wrote:
> Hello Gimp Users and Developers,
> 
> This is a follow up of Bug 557950 (which in fact isn't a bug, according to
> Sven Neumann ;-)
> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=557950
> 
> As described in the “Bug”, scaling in Gimp 2.6 series is far slower, than it
> was in 2.4. Sven Neumann commented:
> 
> “We have completely changed the scaling implementation. The new algorithm is
> slower for some cases, but that is not a bug.”
> 
> Since there is no explanation WHY the algorithm was rewritten, I guess 2
> possible reasons:
> 
>   1.)The old code did something wrong in some cases
>   2.)The new code was necessary due to GEGL integration
> 
> For the first point, I compared scaling results from 2.4 and 2.6, and they
> are (ignoring some harmless alignment issues) 100% identical (using
> difference blend mode). I also cannot remember, that in the past years, the
> scaling routine in Gimp produced noticeable wrong results. (Beside the
> lanczos interpolation, that didn't work right, when it was introduced)
> 
> So my question is, isn't it possible, to have both algorithms in Gimp, and
> let the user decide which one he wants to use? (Option in Scale Dialog) 
> 
> If it was due to point 2, the GEGL integration, than can we expect a faster
> version of the new scaling routine? Or will it be automatically faster, when
> GEGL is integrated more/better?
> 
> The current situation draws some users (not myself) to not use Gimp 2.6, and
> stick with 2.4 instead, because the difference in speed is so dramatically.
> 
> Sincerely, Claus Berghammer
> 

I'd be curious to see some benchmarks comparing 2.4 and 2.6 in this regard so 
that we know just how dramatically
different the speed is.

Eric P.
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[Gimp-user] gradient based on manual (lasso) selection

[Eric P]

GIMPers,

Is there a way to create a gradient (black->white) based off a closed lasso 
selection?  So the resulting gradient would
start black along the edge of the selection and expand out to white in all 
directions away from the selection.

My end goal is to create a quick mask that I can blur to create a background 
with an exaggerated out of focus look.

Thanks for reading (hope that all made sense)!
Eric
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