Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo system has become unstable and unusable - help, please!
I am (was) getting this as well on a new amd64 install (zotac ION n330) - it appears there is a problem with certain glibc 32bit libraries - there is a bug about it. Upgraded glibc and most things are now happy - but I still cant build gcc. BillK On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 10:50 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Friday 12 February 2010 10:54:53 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > Hi, Gentoo, > > > > My new Gentoo box has become unusably unstable. > > > > The first sign was when the compiler threw a segfault whilst emerging > > the xfce window manager. I "solved" this by emerging Openbox instead. > > > > Then I got another compiler segfault whilst emerging firefox (yes, I > > know there's a binary for this). > > > > everything you mention below is indicative of failing hardware, especially > RAM > closely followed by PSU. > > Swap them out with known good items and test thoroughly *before* doing > anything else. > > > > > > > > > Then, on somebody's advice (not fully understood), I did > > > > # emerge -e gcc > > > > , to try and get a consistent working gcc. This crashed. I repeated > > the invocation, and it crashed more quickly. :-( > > > > At this point, I thought, just reload "everything" from the stage3, with > > > > # cd / ; bunzip2 /stage3-amd64-20100121.tar.gz > > > > , which didn't help either. I emerged gentoolkit, to see if I could get > > some handle on the mess. Then > > > > # revdep-rebuild -p > > > > threw a segfault. > > > > At this point, I'm feeling a bit sad. My rough guess is that there's > > some conflict somewhere between 32-bit and 64-bit code, and some of my > > USE flags are inconsistent with some others, or the kernel, or something > > like that. > > > > One other thing I remember vaguely is that early on, some emerge told me > > I had to "revdep-rebuild" something. I wasn't able to do this through > > not yet knowing what "revdep-rebuild" meant, and not having any file of > > that name on my system. Could this be the cause? > > > > Finally, is there a way of reloading/rebuilding ALL the executables > > onto/on my system without discarding all my painfully wrought config > > files and without portage getting confused? > > > > Thanks in advance for the help! > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] How should I clean up my broken system?
"equery check package" compares current with the as installed checksum (or something like that!) for the packages files. emerge -ep world > a edit "a" to add "equery check " before each package name run "sh a > b" and got hrough the list in b to see whats broke - lots of debris - config files etc will show as failing a checksum, so ignore them. Also ".a" libraries may not be broke, but a side effect of lafilefixer - need to check that one. prelink apparently doesnt affect (or maybe updates) the checksum. I am sure someone probably has a utility able to automate the process - anyone? BillK e.g., myth2 ~ # equery check gcc [ Checking sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 ] !!! /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/f951 has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/32/libgfortran.so.3.0.0 has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libgcc.a has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/libmudflapth.so.0.0.0 has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/locale/tr/LC_MESSAGES/gcc.mo has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/32/libgfortran.a has incorrect md5sum !!! /etc/env.d/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.4 has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/include/g ++-v4/bits/boost_concept_check.h has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/libexec/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/tree1 has incorrect md5sum !!! /usr/share/gcc-data/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/gcc.mo has incorrect md5sum * 944 out of 954 files good myth2 ~ # Yeah my gcc is broke and wont rebuild :( On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 19:55 +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Gentoo! > > As reported in other threads, my new PC had a broken RAM stick in it. > As a result, an unknown proportion of installed binaries are flaky. One > non-functioning binary is probably GCC. > > What I'd like to do is reinstall every binary, yet without erasing any > configuration info, whose creation was so arduous. > > Where does portage keep it's list of installed packages? What do I have > to do to persuade portage it has _no_ installed packages before doing > 'rm -rf *' in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin, /usr/sbin? > > Has anybody any other tips to offer me for this operation? > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] binary amd64 multilib build of gcc 4.3.4 wanted
Can someone point me to a binary amd64 multilib build of gcc 4.3.4 (same as the amd64 install CD)? Or create one with quickpkg for me. I am finding it impossible to get gcc to build on a diskless system with an nfs root. All other packages build ok - just not gcc (4.2, 4.3, 4.4) - Ive replaced individual files with no luck, so want try to emerge a binary package in the hope that its something Ive missed causing the failure. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] binary amd64 multilib build of gcc 4.3.4 wanted
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 08:49 +0100, Zeerak Mustafa Waseem wrote: > PORTAGE_BINHOST="http://tinderbox.dev.gentoo.org/default-linux/amd64/"; Brilliant! Thanks, BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)
I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The main use I am concerned about is a PXE system with root over nfs where I am putting the portage tmp and some other stuff in tmpfs for speed. tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 I suspect the middle line is correct. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] What is the proper fstab line for shm memory (tmpfs)
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 13:28 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 26 Februar 2010, William Kenworthy wrote: > > I have a number of systems with different shm lines in fstab - but which > > is correct? - I think they all work, but which is best (and why)? The > > main use I am concerned about is a PXE system with root over nfs where I > > am putting the portage tmp and some other stuff in tmpfs for speed. > > > > tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 > > shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0 > > none/dev/shmtmpfs defaults0 0 > > > > I suspect the middle line is correct. > > > > BillK > > I have > > shm /dev/shmtmpfs nodev,nosuid,noexec > > 0 0 > > for ages in fstab. If it is wrong, I am living a lie for years now. Thanks, the reason I am not sure is I often copy fstab between machines to speed up configuration, and I suspect the lines with "defaults" trace back to circa 1989 (my first gentoo - over dialup modem with 7 days of downloading/compiling on a 200Mhz K6 :) or whenever tmpfs appeared in the kernel. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] about sys-fs/zfs-fuse and qmerge
On Sun, 2010-03-14 at 00:43 -0600, Harry Putnam wrote: > I need a little coaching on qmerge usage. > qmerge is an argument to ebuild: "ebuild file.ebuild compile install qmerge" documented in "man ebuild" BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] OT:Choosing a filesystem
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 11:11 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Neil Bothwick [10-04-02 10:52]: > > On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:09:30 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > > So I have a lot of docs (specs of microcontrollers, howtos, programm > > > and source code docs...etc) on my disk. > > > This one part. > > > > Those are fairly normal files. > > > > > Then: I often transer videos from my DVB-T-receiver/recorder to my > > > harddisk to cut out the advertising and to transcode the videos to > > > somethings better than "ts" (transport streams), > > > > These tend to be bigger, often in the GB range, so I'd use a separate > > filesystem for them with XFS, which handles large files better in my > > experience. > > > > > Then I want something encrypted, either as a partition or as a files > > > (carrying a encrypted fs), which I can copy to dvd and will be able > > > to mount this dvd and use it without to have to copy the whole dvd > > > first to harddisk before using it... > > > Currently I am using encfs...(outdated?). What can I do use instead? > > > > ecryptfs does much the same job as encfs but is in the kernel. > > > > I'd say something like reiser3 for most areas and an XFS filesystem for > > the videos would be a good starting point. I would strongly recommend you > > use LVM and only set up volumes for what you need. That gives you extra > > space to play with and even experiment with different filesystems to see > > which work for you. > > > > > > -- > > Neil Bothwick > > > > The facts, although interesting, are irrelevant. > > Hi Neil, > > Thank you for your help! :) > > A question to LVM: As much as I know, LVM combines several partition > to one big partition, and if one partition fails, at least other > others of that volume are damaged, too. > What is the advantage of using LVM and several small partitions > instead of one in the size of the sum of the others and not using > LVM? > > Best regards, > mcc > The advantage is flexibility - you absolutely love LVM when you discover you have made a file system too small! Shrinking/enlarging/adding more storage etc is a real bonus. Downside as you mention is lose one disk and you may lose all - however I believe that sometimes the remaining data can be recovered. Also keep in mind that while small partitions can be a pain and waste space, normal corruption is limited to one partition, and physical data protection is better (i.e., when one partition fills up, others are safe) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] OT:Choosing a filesystem
On Fri, 2010-04-02 at 14:45 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > On Freitag 02 April 2010, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > Neil Bothwick [10-04-02 14:08]: > > > On Fri, 2 Apr 2010 13:04:53 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > > > only to be sure to have understood everything correctly: > > > > Suggestion is to create for example one root partition and a swap > > > > partion. And I will create on big "rest of the disk"-partition. > > > > The last one will be subdivided with LVM into portions as needed. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > Since the last big partition is big due to physical reasons (not for > > > > logical one): What will happen, if -- for example -- one portion will > > > > be not unmounted cleanly and while booting/checking fails to recover? > > > > Are all others damaged/lost? > > > > > > No, because the failure you describe is at the filesystem level. Even the > > > volume containing that filesystem will retain integrity, only the > > > filesystem itself will be corrupted. As you have left free space on the > > > volume group, you can just create a new volume, format it and copy over > > > everything you can recover from the broken filesystem before deleting it. > > > > Hi Neil, > > > > yes, sounds good, very good. > > Last question: How heavy is the performance impact of such a setup ? > > seriously lvm sounds nice. But it isn't. It easily breaks. > > You want a save setup? Go raid5 or raid6. As a bonus - you can get more space > if you need it by just adding another disk. And you are not depending on some > complex stuff to get it working. > My experience is lvm itself is quite robust and very low impact on performance. More reliable than linux software raid at least (well the raid 0 that I was using: ) - never had a problem I could trace to lvm. The only thing thats affected lvm for me were hardware errors (disk died). My experience was with raid 0, while the higher raid redundancy will shift the reliability figures back the other way. Its really down to space and management or losing space to redundancy. Yes its an extra layer on top of the raw hardware (but so is raid really) so its the flexibility thats important. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Forcing X.org video driver without xorg.config
My experience with my own systems is that (at least on mostly older hardware), disabling hal is the only way to get a properly working system. I would suggest trying with hal at first (which you have done), then overiding it with xorg.conf where necessary - but often xorg seems to prefer hal over the conf file so in more problematic cases, compile with -hal. They will probably get it working properly eventually, but for the moment hal is one of those things that sounded good in theory, but ... BillK On Mon, 2010-04-05 at 14:37 +0300, Black Napalm wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to set up X.org and the Gentoo X Server configuration > HOWTO says that HAL should be used and that xorg.conf should only be > used as a last resort. However, when running X without a configuration > file, it autodetects the video card and tries to load the wrong > drivers, which I haven't installed, and therefore fails. > Is there a way to force X to use a specific driver without using a > configuration file? I am not really familiar with HAL, but it seems as > though none of the provided policies have anything to do with video > cards. > > Thank you in advance! > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
> I am however documenting my experiences for others than come after me > to this question of "to ~amd64 or not ~amd64". Nothing more. It worked > for Alan who is a __very__ experienced and capable person. It didn't > work for Mark (at this point) who is a 10 year Gentoo user but > __nothing__ more than a user type Those people can decide who they are > closer to in capabilities and make their choice a bit more informed. > > I didn't wake up this morning thinking I could do what you and Neil > and others on this list can with this distro. I'm not that silly! I > just wanted to try ~amd64 to see what happened. It will take me less > than 90 minutes to get to a new clean install if I blow everything > away and start over. It's not a big deal. > > - Mark > Is there a reason why you want to run all @system as ~amd64, and the rest stable. To me it makes more sense (especially for production systems) to run @system as stable and only ~amd64 those apps and dependencies you want/need to be bleeding edge. Anyhow, what I really wanted to say is for more sensible unmasking, check out autounmask: moriah home # esearch autounmask [ Results for search key : autounmask ] [ Applications found : 1 ] * app-portage/autounmask Latest version available: 0.27 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 3 kB Homepage:http://download.mpsna.de/opensource/autounmask/ Description: autounmask - Unmasking packages the easy way License: GPL-2 moriah home #
Re: [gentoo-user] ~amd64 - my experience so far...
On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 09:09 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Monday 12 April 2010 18:33:21 KH wrote: > > Am 12.04.2010 14:57, schrieb Alan McKinnon: > > > > So, in the rare case of a user who can discipline himself to say within the > limits you describe, your advice is fine. But that's a theoretical situation > :-) and the real one is quite different in my experience. > > This is exactly how I manage a number of gentoo systems - only unmasking versions I need. Ive actually never done a ~ system :) However, on the other side of the coin is the fact I have also never run a completely stable system either because I have never been able to get the task done a system was built for without at least a few unstable packages. For an extreme example, remember when X was masked for some security problem leaving stable with no X windows system (think it was back in the xfree86 days). You will quite often find that when trying to build even a basic system, you have to keyword a few packages or you get nowhere. And if its a complex 1000 pkg plus system, you are definitely going to have problems. One hint I can give for long term stability is to try and specify versions (either with = or ~) rather than just an open keywording. Otherwise it gets out of hand with many unmasked packages needed and needing maintaining on upgrades. BillK
[gentoo-user] Adding styles to lyx in gentoo
I am definitely not a latex/lyx person it seems :) Ive installed lyx and am trying to add the springer llncs2e to it without luck so far. 1. Ive added llncs and llncs2e directories to /usr/share/texmf-dist/tex/latex/ and unzipped the relevant packages inside. 2.run texhash 3.run reconfigure within lyx 4. restarted lyx Is there anything else needed? - I followed ubuntu instructions and he directories are a bit different but that seems ok after adjustment as texhash indexes them. Is there something gentoo specific that needs doing? BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Maybe OT: Sync freq of LCDpanel != framerate of movie ?!?
Not sure if it will help, but try setting your kernel jiffies to 300hz? - 300 is evenly divisible by both 60 and 50 and I think was introduced for this reason. BillK On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 14:26 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > Hi, > > may be this is offtopic, may be it is not. Depends > on whether gentoo-related software can do something > for me in this case... > > I bought a LCD monitor as a replacement for my aging > CRT one. > > It is a HP LP2475w which has a vertical refresh rate > (sorry is this is a corrupted terminus technicus... > my "C" is better than my English... ;) ) of 60Hz and > runs with 1920x1200 resolution. > > Since all my hardware is wired to 220V/50Hz and > DVDs/videos of region 2 have a framerate of 50Hz > I can see distortions in fast moving scenes especially > at fast changing light conditions (flashes, disco > lightning, fight scenes in Matrix Revolutions etc...) > > The LCD is driven via DVI conection by a > nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] (rev a2) > and I am using the current nvidida-drivers. > > I played around with different SYNC-options in > the nvidia-settings dialog but did not found one > which cures the problem. > > How can I fix the problem ? > > Thank you very much for any help in advance! > Have a nice weekend! > Best regards > mcc > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] two glibcs with different version
On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 10:57 +0200, Kraus Philipp wrote: > > On 01.05.2010 um 10:32 wrote Volker Armin Hemmann: > > > On Samstag 01 Mai 2010, Graham Murray wrote: > > > Kraus Philipp writes: > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > I must test a software with a older version of the glibc. I run > > > > the > > > > 2.11.1 now but for one tool I need a previous version (2.6.1). > > > > How can I compile the glibc without changing my system glibc. I > > > > would > > > > like to set the previous glibc with the LD_PATH. > > > > Can I run two different versions or is a better solution to > > > > downgrade > > > > the system glib? > > > > > > I think that the only way you can do this is to create a chroot > > > jail, > > > in which you build everything using the old version of glibc (in a > > > very > > > similar way to building a new Gentoo system) and run your > > > application in > > > that. > > > > no, you can install glibc in /usr/local and then tell apps to either > > use the > > libs in /usr/local or /usr. > > > > It is just not easy because it easily breaks stuff in horrrible to > > fix ways. > > > > > Okay, can I downgrade my glibc? My Gentoo isn't a big system, it's a > server > installation, so I can recompile the whole system. I had forgotten to > mask the > glibc on the last update. I have add a line to the portage.mask but > emerge says > that it can't compile the older version, because will damage the > system. > > Would LD_PRELOAD solve your problem? - worked for me when needing to run a legacy redhat app in the past on a more up-to-date gentoo system. There is also a LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. Get a binary copy of the libs you need and put em somewhere convenient and let the rest of the system stay as is. google for LD_PRELOAD. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] two glibcs with different version
On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 12:25 +0200, Kraus Philipp wrote: > > Am 01.05.2010 um 11:48 schrieb William Kenworthy: > > > On Sat, 2010-05-01 at 10:57 +0200, Kraus Philipp wrote: > > > > > > On 01.05.2010 um 10:32 wrote Volker Armin Hemmann: > > > > > > > On Samstag 01 Mai 2010, Graham Murray wrote: > > > > > Kraus Philipp writes: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > I must test a software with a older version of the glibc. I > > > > > > run > > > > > > the > > > > > > 2.11.1 now but for one tool I need a previous version > > > > > > (2.6.1). > > > > > > How can I compile the glibc without changing my system > > > > > > glibc. I > > > > > > would > > > > > > like to set the previous glibc with the LD_PATH. > > > > > > Can I run two different versions or is a better solution to > > > > > > downgrade > > > > > > the system glib? > > > > > > > > > > I think that the only way you can do this is to create a > > > > > chroot > > > > > jail, > > > > > in which you build everything using the old version of glibc > > > > > (in a > > > > > very > > > > > similar way to building a new Gentoo system) and run your > > > > > application in > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > no, you can install glibc in /usr/local and then tell apps to > > > > either > > > > use the > > > > libs in /usr/local or /usr. > > > > > > > > It is just not easy because it easily breaks stuff in horrrible > > > > to > > > > fix ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, can I downgrade my glibc? My Gentoo isn't a big system, it's > > > a > > > server > > > installation, so I can recompile the whole system. I had forgotten > > > to > > > mask the > > > glibc on the last update. I have add a line to the portage.mask > > > but > > > emerge says > > > that it can't compile the older version, because will damage the > > > system. > > > > > > > > > > Would LD_PRELOAD solve your problem? - worked for me when needing to > > run > > a legacy redhat app in the past on a more up-to-date gentoo system. > > > > > I think that can solve my problem, because it's only this one lib all > other libs > work very well. > > > There is also a LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable. Get a binary copy of the > > libs > > you need and put em somewhere convenient and let the rest of the > > system > > stay as is. > > > I don't have the glibc binary. I can't emerge it and if I try to > compile from the sources. > The configure script says: These critical programs are missing or too > old: as ld > > > How I can compile the from the sources > (http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/glibc/glibc-2.10.1.tar.gz) ? > > > Thanks > > > Phil You can use ebuild to build a package, but not install it - then just un-compress it and grab the wanted libs. Or if you tell us what arch, someone (me if its compatible) can create a binary pkg for you using quickpkg. It might also be on the livecd/install medium as well - dont have one here to check. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Cannot emerge x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2-r1
FEATURES='-distcc -ccache' MAKEOPTS='-j1' emerge ... Worked for me on multiple systems BillK - Original message - > For the last week or perhaps more, I have been unable to complete an emerge > update of world because x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2-r1 fails. I now have just > the following ebuilds that cannot finish because of qt-webkit: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2-r1 [4.6.2] USE="dbus%* exceptions > kde > (-aqua) -debug -pch" 0 kB > [ebuild U ] kde-base/ksplash-4.4.2-r1 [4.4.2] USE="mmx sse sse2 -3dnow > (- > altivec) (-aqua) -debug (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix) -xinerama" 0 kB > [ebuild R ] kde-base/libplasmagenericshell-4.4.2 USE="(-aqua) -debug (- > kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix) -test%" 0 kB > > > [ebuild U ] > kde-base/systemsettings-4.4.2-r1 [4.4.2] USE="handbook opengl usb (-aqua) > -debug (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix) -xinerama" 0 kB > > [ebuild U ] >app-cdr/k3b-1.91.0_rc2 > [1.70.0_beta1] USE="dvd encode flac handbook%* mad vorbis wav (-aqua) -debug > -emovix -ffmpeg (-kdeenablefinal) - lame -musepack -musicbrainz -sndfile -sox > -taglib -vcd" LINGUAS="fr%* -ast% - be% -bg% -ca% -...@valencia% -cs% -csb% > -da% > -de% -el% -en_GB% -eo% -es% -et% - eu% -fi% -ga% -gl% -he% -hi% -hne% -hr% > -hu% > -is% -it% -ja% -km% -ko% -ku% - lt% -mai% -nb% -nds% -nl% -nn% -oc% -pa% -pl% > -pt% -pt_BR% -ro% -ru% -se% -sk% -sl% -sv% -th% -tr% -uk% -zh_CN% -zh_TW%" 0 > kB > > Total: 5 packages (4 upgrades, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB > > Near the end of the emerge, the following error occurs: > > compiling .rcc/release-shared/qrc_WebKit.cpp > rm -f libQtWebKit.so.4.6.2 libQtWebKit.so libQtWebKit.so.4 libQtWebKit.so.4.6 > linking ../../../../lib/libQtWebKit.so.4.6.2 > /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux- > gnu/bin/ld:obj/release/HTMLParser.o: file format not recognized; treating as > linker script > /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.4/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux- > gnu/bin/ld:obj/release/HTMLParser.o:1: syntax error > collect2: ld returned 1 exit status > make: *** [../../../../lib/libQtWebKit.so.4.6.2] Error 1 > * ERROR: x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.6.2-r1 failed: > * emake failed > > There was a thread on gentoo forums with this very error listed as solved > (https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=6262495), but the ccache solution > suggested there has no effect on my experience of the problem. Anyone have a > suggestion on how to proceed? > > Thanks, > -- > Jim
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB printer and new cups
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 04:11 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > walt writes: > > > On 05/15/2010 04:01 PM, Dale wrote: > > > Just for reference, this is my USE flags: > > > > > > USE="X avahi dbus gnutls java jpeg ldap pam perl png ppds python ssl > > > tiff zeroconf -acl -kerberos -php -samba -slp -static -xinetd" > > > > Good grief, Dale, you're almost stark nekkid! Where are all the rest > > of your useflags? > > That was my first impression also, but those are only the USE flags for > cups. Mine are a little different, but I have another cups version (Dale > does not even seem have a usb USE flag): > > USE="X acl dbus java jpeg ldap linguas_de pam perl php png python samba > slp ssl tiff usb -debug -gnutls -kerberos -static -xinetd) > > > > > Alex: when I plug in my HP USB printer, I see this in dmesg: > > > > usb 2-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2 > > usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=03f0, idProduct=1617 > > usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 > > usb 2-2: Product: hp LaserJet 3015 > > usb 2-2: Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard > > usb 2-2: SerialNumber: 00CNBM369103 > > usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 1 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 > > pid 0x1617 usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp > > > > Do you see somethinhg different? > > Less verbose, but similar: > usb 1-2: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 3 > usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 3 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04A9 pid > 0x10A5 > usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp > > There is a message in syslog that is being repeated hundreds of times: > May 15 22:25:55 [kernel] usb 1-2: usbfs: interface 0 claimed by usblp > while 'usb' sets config #1 > - Last output repeated 58 times - > > Wonko > A stab in the dark: Does udev know about the printer? - this identifies a new usb device to the kernel as a usb printer instead of just an unknown usb device. Do you have sane installed? - if its a multifunction device sane may have grabbed it first (for the scanner) locking the printer out. Requires some manual tuning of the udev rules if this is the case (this is required by my epson multifunction) BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have an ... anomaly! It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and sabayon - why? I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is it? How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find anything so far. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote: > > I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have > > an ... anomaly! > > > > It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and > > sabayon - why? I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg > > so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is > > it? > > > > How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find > > anything so far. > > euse -I kdrive > > will show which packages on your system are using this flag. > Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be needed that I want: >From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to require xorg-server to be built with kdrive. So even though this system is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ... COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4 >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0 >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3 >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15 x11-libs/pango dev-python/python-ldap x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]" It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome here as well - seems to work ok. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] kdrive use flag quandary
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 13:03 +0200, ich bins wrote: > Am 16.05.2010 12:22, schrieb William Kenworthy: > > On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 08:08 +0100, Mick wrote: > >> On Sunday 16 May 2010 05:42:13 William Kenworthy wrote: > >>> I am trying to update a laptop after a break of a few months and have > >>> an ... anomaly! > >>> > >>> It suddenly wants the kdrive use flag enabled for xorg-server and > >>> sabayon - why? I think kdrive is a minimal xserver built on top of xorg > >>> so its not appropriate for a system I want full functionality on - is > >>> it? > >>> > >>> How can I find out whats bringing this use flag in as I cant find > >>> anything so far. > >> > >> euse -I kdrive > >> > >> will show which packages on your system are using this flag. > >> > > > > Its not what packages use it - but what packages are causing it to be > > needed that I want: > > > >> >From the new sabayon ebuild stabilized for gnome 2.28 it seems to > > require xorg-server to be built with kdrive. So even though this system > > is using stable gnome, the newer sabayon now requires it ... > > > > COMMON_DEPEND=">=dev-lang/python-2.4 > > >=x11-libs/gtk+-2.6.0 > > >=dev-python/pygtk-2.5.3 > > >=dev-python/pygobject-2.15 > > x11-libs/pango > > dev-python/python-ldap > > x11-base/xorg-server[kdrive]" > > > > > > It appears its set by autounmask for gnome-2.28.2 on my other systems so > > guess its a requirement these days ... guess I'll unmask the newer gnome > > here as well - seems to work ok. > > > > BillK > > > > > > > You need kdrive for Xephyr! > Perhaps, but its not installed and doesnt even have an ebuild that I can see. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] identical drives, different free space!
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 10:12 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 18 May 2010 04:13:07 Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > As an alternative check out http-replicator - yes the clients do > > download to a local directory but that can be cleaned afterwards. It > > also allows download locally when you know you are taking the machine > > (laptop?) elsewhere. > > Yet another approach is to have an rsync server on your LAN. In my case > it's the local server box (print, squid, mail etc). It's simple to set > up and to use, and all the boxes on the LAN can operate in their own > devious ways. > The advantage of http-replicator is that it is a caching proxy - if it isnt in the cache, it downloads it and then serves it out to one or more clients - rsync/FTP/wget/... can just share whats already there, not go get the file in the first place. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] identical drives, different free space!
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 11:30 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 18 May 2010 11:19:06 William Kenworthy wrote: > > > The advantage of http-replicator is that it is a caching proxy - if > > it isnt in the cache, it downloads it and then serves it out to one > > or more clients - rsync/FTP/wget/... can just share whats already > > there, not go get the file in the first place. > > My setup does exactly the same, since squid is running on the same box. > How have you configured it? - I wouldn't have though squid suitable considering its designed for a different purpose and so regularly expires items in its cache (i.e., they will be available for a limited time before being cleaned.) If you extend max_age, then it becomes unsuitable as a regular web proxy/cache unless you are running multiple instances. There are posts saying that squid doesnt work well with portage but other than a high miss rate (possibly because the files expired?), no details are given. Squid also seems to store its files named something like /var/cache/squid/00/00/00B9 so its hard to get at them directly without having squid to serve them up while the http-replicator cache is just the raw files - same as "distfiles" in fact. see http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=1138287#1138287 for details on http-replicator. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: spell checking using kile under gnome
kile to gedit is like openoffice to dos edit! I'd rather not ... BillK On Sat, 2010-05-22 at 09:32 -0700, walt wrote: > On 05/22/2010 07:17 AM, W.Kenworthy wrote: > > I am using kile under gnome to edit latex files. Its ok, but I am > > having problems with the spell checker - it works and does the job > > except it cant "add to dictionary"... > > I know nothing about kile, and little about latex, but I notice that > gedit does have a LaTeX highlighting mode in the View::Highlighting:: > Markup:: menu. Would that work for you? > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Two gcc versions installed
Did you run "fix_libtool_files.sh 4.3.4" after switching gcc versions with gcc-config before trying depclean? BillK On Thu, 2010-06-10 at 03:05 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > Daniel D Jones writes: > > > eix gcc shows: > > > > Installed versions: > > > > 4.3.4(4.3)!s(10:56:18 AM 02/27/2010)(gtk mudflap nls nptl openmp > > -altivec - bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -fortran -gcj -hardened > > -libffi -multilib - multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -nopie -objc -objc++ > > -objc-gc -test -vanilla) > > > > 4.4.3-r2(4.4)!s(08:29:19 PM 06/07/2010)(fortran gtk mudflap nls nptl > > openmp - altivec -bootstrap -build -doc -fixed-point -gcj -graphite > > -hardened -libffi - multilib -multislot -n32 -n64 -nocxx -objc -objc++ > > -objc-gc -test -vanilla) > > > > Is there any reason to have both of these installed? Is it safe to > > unmerge 4.3.4? > > Probably not. I would do an emerge -a --depclean. If nothing depends on > the old gcc, it will be removed. Otherwise you get a message what has to > be rebuilt, like I do: > > weird ~ # emerge -a --depclean > > * Always study the list of packages to be cleaned for any obvious > * mistakes. Packages that are part of the world set will always > * be kept. They can be manually added to this set with > * `emerge --noreplace `. Packages that are listed in > * package.provided (see portage(5)) will be removed by > * depclean, even if they are part of the world set. > * > * As a safety measure, depclean will not remove any packages > * unless *all* required dependencies have been resolved. As a > * consequence, it is often necessary to run `emerge --update > * --newuse --deep @world` prior to depclean. > > Calculating dependencies... done! > >>> Checking for lib consumers... > >>> Assigning files to packages... > * In order to avoid breakage of link level dependencies, one or more > * packages will not be removed. This can be solved by rebuilding the > * packages that pulled them in. > * > * sys-devel/gcc-4.3.4 pulled in by: > * app-arch/rpm-4.4.6-r7 needs libgomp.so.1 > * dev-lang/R-2.11.1 needs libgfortran.so.3 > * dev-lang/gdl-0.9_rc4 needs libgomp.so.1 > * dev-libs/beecrypt-4.2.1 needs libgomp.so.1 > * kde-base/cantor-4.4.4 needs libgfortran.so.3 > * kde-base/libkdcraw-4.4.4 needs libgomp.so.1 > * media-gfx/imagemagick-6.6.1.7 needs libgomp.so.1 > * media-sound/sox-14.3.1 needs libgomp.so.1 > * media-video/transcode-1.1.5-r1 needs libgomp.so.1 > * sci-libs/blas-reference-20070226-r1 needs libgfortran.so.3 > * sci-libs/fftw-3.2.2 needs libgomp.so.1 > * sci-libs/plplot-5.9.5 needs libgfortran.so.3 > * sys-devel/gettext-0.18.1 needs libgomp.so.1 > * > >>> Adding lib providers to graph... > >>> > - > Calculating dependencies... done! > >>> No packages selected for removal by depclean > >>> To see reverse dependencies, use --verbose > Packages installed: 1678 > Packages in world:373 > Packages in system: 50 > Required packages:1678 > Number removed: 0 > > Wonko > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions regarding the usage of multiple locales
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:59 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > Mick writes: > > > On Saturday 26 June 2010 12:10:02 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > Your aterm is configured as a login shell, and as such reads > You might want to read this and set up your locales properly. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Questions regarding the usage of multiple locales
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:38 +0100, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 26 June 2010 13:20:38 William Kenworthy wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 13:59 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Mick writes: > > > > On Saturday 26 June 2010 12:10:02 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > > > Your aterm is configured as a login shell, and as such reads > > > > You might want to read this and set up your locales properly. > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/guide-localization.xml > > Thanks Bill, that's where I started, but I am getting confused with the way > my > system and various terminals respond to the suggested files/settings. > > The only way to see the locales I entered in /etc/env.d/02locale is by > launching a terminal (aterm, xterm, urxvt) and 'su -' to root. In all other > cases US locales seem to take over (although the LANG setting appears to be > working). Could it be your desktop overiding the basics? - gnome or kde perhaps? Also check the login manager (I use GDM and there is a language setting for the login there.) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/time is in what package?
On Sun, 2010-07-04 at 10:59 +0100, Stroller wrote: > On 4 Jul 2010, at 09:22, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: > > in what package can I find /usr/bin/time (not the shell's builtin) ? > > sys-process/time > > > Or, in other more general words: How can I find a package which > > contains a certain installable file? > > qfile /usr/bin/time > > Stroller. > > This only works for files already on your system which is ok if thats what you want. If like in this case you are trying to locate a binary thats not installed - how do you find what package its in? For me its down to googling and seeing what other distros use and map that back to a gentoo package as far as I can see. BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 07:40 -0500, Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 05 July 2010 08:08:05 Dale wrote: > > > >> Mick wrote: > >> > >>> PS. Google is only as good as your ability to find the terms by which you > >>> should be searching. I understand they are working hard on reading our > >>> thoughts. > >>> > >> +1 > >> > >> I like how folks that have the answer say to Google for it. If you > >> don't know what to tell Google to find, Google isn't worth $0.01 on the > >> subject. > >> > >> Now after you get the answer, Google is great. :-) > >> > > N, you don't get it. > > > > You must google the question to get the search terms > > Then you must google the search terms to get the answer > > > > Two-step process! > > > > > > That doesn't usually work for me in even a three or four step process. lol > > Dale > There is a very informative movie that might help explain the process of asking a question, then asking what question you need to get the answer. Its called "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy". Its obvious, the answers 24. :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 13:43 +0100, Mick wrote: > On 5 July 2010 08:43, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:57:12 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > >> PS. Google is only as good as your ability to find the terms by which > >> you should be searching. > > > > Your question was "How to capture a screen video"m Googling for "linux > > How to capture a screen video" gives several answers :) > > Yes, I googled trying not to be clever and asked: > > "How to record my desktop using Linux" > > but this brought up the recordmydesktop application. I thought there > must be more ways, knowing of xvidcap but not remembering ffmpeg. > > At which point I thought, better ask the 'oracle' of all knowledge and > posted in this M/L. > > A good keyword for a google search would have been "capture", but > after a long day of bashing the keyboard I was pretty brain dead to > come up with it! O_O > > Ditto for "screencast". All I could think at the time was I want to > make a video of screenshots, or I want to record desktop events, none > of which gave me a satisfactory answer. Ive used recordmydesktop and it does a good job - however the windows camtasia app has a better end product due to propriety codecs. I tried many combinations on a recorded file to compress a recordmydesktop file but never got near camtasias size/quality. It was acceptable though for download. There were also the usual problems of syncing audio, some formats playing ok on some platforms and not on others etc that also make getting a winning combination difficult. Needs some kind of linux expert on the subject to produce a usable guide to the many settings to get the best out of it. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] How to capture a screen video?
On Mon, 2010-07-05 at 15:39 +0200, Daniel Pielmeier wrote: > 2010/7/5 William Kenworthy : > > > > There is a very informative movie that might help explain the process of > > asking a question, then asking what question you need to get the answer. > > Its called "Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy". > > > > Its obvious, the answers 24. > > 24? I always thought "The Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the > Universe, and Everything" was 42. Did I miss something? :) > uh? - check 2 + 2 = 5, rats, my brain is malfunctioning :( or its a typo and I should NEVER try and send a witty reply after 9pm :( BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Pair Programming & Non-Routable IP Address
Openvpn tunnel - treat the endpoints as a network connecting the two of you. If one end is public, connect direct (easier), or use your server as a server and the ends as clients and route between at the server end - can be fun (not) to get to work :) Zebedee is a port based tunnel when only a single (or a few) ports needs tunneling between two end points - designed originally for vnc type connections and works great over low bandwidth and poor quality connections. ssh tunnel - similar to zebedee but Ive found it flakey and unreliable with anything other than a good connection between two end points, far prefer zebedee for this, but ssh is on almost everything by default these days. Start googling! BillK On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 15:47 -0700, Hilco Wijbenga wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to do remote pair programming with somebody on a > non-Linux box. It seems that NoMachine NX or TightVNC would allow me > to do so. Great. > > My problem is that I don't have a routable IP address. My ISP gives me > a 192.x.x.x IP which is sort of nice because the bad guys can't see me > ... but neither can the good guys. :-) (On top of that I have my own > network with NAT set up so I can share my Internet connection among my > various machines.) > > I do have root access to a (Debian) server with a static IP with a > hosting company. So now I'm wondering if I can somehow take advantage > of that static IP address. How would I do that? What would I need to > set up on that server to allow my partner to reach my box? > > Cheers, > Hilco > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] firefox/xulrunner fails on "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 and 1.9.2.7.
I am getting a "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 and 1.9.2.7. Firefox 3.6.7 and xulrunner 1.9.2.7 In the past, the fix was to recompile one or both a second time - unfortunately I now have two broken (probably soon to be 3 - havent tested yet :( systems where this is not working. Help! BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/xulrunner fails on "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 and 1.9.2.7.
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 13:30 +0200, Kacper Kopczyński wrote: > Dnia sobota 24 lipca 2010 o 12:10:52 William Kenworthy napisał(a): > > I am getting a "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 > > and 1.9.2.7. > > > > Firefox 3.6.7 and xulrunner 1.9.2.7 > > > > In the past, the fix was to recompile one or both a second time - > > unfortunately I now have two broken (probably soon to be 3 - havent > > tested yet :( systems where this is not working. > > > > Help! > > > > BillK > > Have you tried running: > xulrunner-1.9.2 --register-global > as a root? > > -- > Kacper Kopczyński > I t gives 'Error: could not create '@GENTOO_PORTAGE_EPREFIX@/etc/gre.d'. The file /etc/gre.d/1.9.2.7.system.conf contains: [1.9.2.7] GRE_PATH=/usr/lib/xulrunner-1.9.2 xulrunner=true abi=x86-gcc3 (the above was manually copied/typed here) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] firefox/xulrunner fails on "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 and 1.9.2.7.
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 14:09 +0200, netfab wrote: > Le Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:10:52 +0800, > William Kenworthy a écrit : > > Help! > > > > Just re-sync and re-emerge xulrunner and firefox. > See bugs #329563 and #329529. > Thanks, doing so now. As luck would have it Ive been working on this since yesterday and the bugs were posted after I had checked bugzilla :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: firefox/xulrunner fails on "Could not find compatible GRE between version 1.9.2.7 and 1.9.2.7.
On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 16:30 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 07/24/2010 03:37 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > > On Sat, 2010-07-24 at 14:09 +0200, netfab wrote: > >> Le Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:10:52 +0800, > >> William Kenworthy a écrit : > >>> Help! > >>> > >> > >> Just re-sync and re-emerge xulrunner and firefox. > >> See bugs #329563 and #329529. > >> > > Thanks, doing so now. As luck would have it Ive been working on this > > since yesterday and the bugs were posted after I had checked bugzilla :) > > As luck would have it, you'll have to rebuild again since Firefox 3.6.8 > / Xulrunner 1.9.2.8 are now in portage ;-) > > Heh, thats life! and yes, just finished updating to xulrunner-1.9.2.7-r1 and recompiled firefox ... and its back! Now to do it all again ... on second thoughts sleep first :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Mon, 2010-07-26 at 09:05 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 22:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 25 July 2010 10:18:33 Dale wrote: > > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > [snip] > > > > > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > > > > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > > > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. > > > > Here in Africa we use pythons for that. > > > > Real genuine live 10 foot snakes. In a terrarium of course. > > > > Trust me, it takes about 30 seconds after the first housekeeping person > > sees > > it until none of them goes anywhere near your stuff. > > > > :-) > > > I like the idea of pythons, as they swallow the prey whole its much less > messy than the redback spiders suggested for use here in West Oz ... > someone would have to clean up the bodies in the morning. > > Must be a coincidence, didnt update the MBR after installing grub and > failed to boot this morning - though the signs are more like disk > failure - even the live CD isnt helping :( > > Another job for tonight when I get home. > > BillK > Fixed it - was grub after all - it renumbered my drives (0 and 1 swapped :( Complicated because this was one of the early sata boards with a fake raid chip to handle the sata while the old IDE drives were on the normal bus. Further complicated by the bios and raidchip changing drive assignments depending on which drive/cd/floppy you booted from (i.e., what grub sees as the drive numbers changes when the real OS is booted). I forgot what hoops I had to jump through to get this going originally. Might be time for a new setup - amd athlon 2500+ are not so cool these days :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] All of a sudden, no apache2. No clue why.
There is an "Unable to open logs" in there ... are you doing some fancy remote logging that cant start? - I cant see anything that says its specifically port 80 thats causing the problem, just no listening sockets available. syslog is udp port 514, and then there is ssl on 443. BillK On Thu, 2010-07-29 at 14:24 -0700, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: > As of today, my apache2 web server seems to refuse to start. I've > tried a system reboot, to no avail -- > connections are refused on port 80. > > In /etc/init.d it looks like this: if I try to start it, it says it's > already started. netstat says there's no listener > on port 80. If I try to restart it, it cannot start a listener. I'm > really bummed. > > Any ideas how to get this going again? > > Here's a short look at what I was doing in /etc/init.d > > treat init.d # ./apache2 start > * WARNING: apache2 has already been started. > treat init.d # ./apache2 restart > * Stopping apache2 ... > httpd (no pid file) not running > [ ok ] > * Starting apache2 ... > (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address > 64.166.164.49:80 > no listening sockets available, shutting down > Unable to open logs > [ ok ]
Re: [gentoo-user] boot log
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 06:55 -0400, dhk wrote: > On 08/05/2010 03:54 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 08:19:29 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > > >> Is there a way to log the boot messages - dmesg after booting up doesnt > >> show module load failures and they scroll off the screen and I can find > >> what they are. > > > > Set rc_logger="YES" in /etc/rc.conf to have the boot sequence logged > > to /var/log/rc.log. This is for BL2, BL1 has a similar setting. > > > > It gives this output here > > > > rc boot logging started at Tue Aug 3 17:39:35 2010 > > > > * Setting system clock using the hardware clock [UTC] ... > > [ ok ] > > * Loading module fuse ... > > [ ok ] > > * Loading module rfcomm ... > > [ ok ] > > * Loading module kvm-intel ... > > [ ok ] > > * Autoloaded 3 module(s) > > ... > > > > You can also increase the size of the dmesg ring buffer, which was > > discussed on this list last month. > > > > > > After booting try Shift-PageUp. Hopefully your not booting to run level > 5, if you are you need to get to the alternate terminal with all the > messages on it. Try Shift-PageUp before and after logging in. The > buffer isn't that big and I'd like to know how it can be increased so I > can go back to earlier messages, but I haven't found that out yet. > > The Shift-PageUp may get you back far enough to see the message that > scrolled by. I didnt think gentoo uses runlevel 5 - you mean into X I think I'll try that next time (not booting into X) and see what happens - but I think it resets itself somewhere in the middle of the text as well as scrolling off the top of the buffer - can be increased I think and booting into single might stop the graphics reset. thanks for the hint. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Some corruption after gnome 2.30
I am seeing it in gnome-terminal - corrupted and sometimes leftover buts of text. As well, when clicking the mouse will see a (usually) black bock appear at the cursor - sometimes stays for a second or two. 3 systems, all x86 and started with gnome 2.30 BillK On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 12:37 -0400, Adam Zajac wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Florian Philipp > wrote: > Am 06.08.2010 12:00, schrieb Adam Carter: > > > I'm running amd64 and am getting some screen corruption, > which i believe > > coincided with the last gnome update. > [snip] > > Hmm, maybe a GTK+ issue. I would try to re-emerge gtk+, > xulrunner and > then firefox. If that doesn't help, try other X-Server > versions. > > I am also running amd64 and experienced gtk+ issues after the recent > gnome update. In my case gtk icon sets were not working as specified > in ~/.gtkrc-2.0, regardless what I set gtk-icon-theme-name to. For > example, thunar refused to display any icons other than its fallback > set. Oddly enough, this only happened on my desktop and not on my > laptop, which has an almost identical setup. > > > revdep-rebuild reported no issues, and re-emerging gtk+, thunar, > and gnome-icon-theme had no effect. Last night I went with the > nuclear option (emerge -eav --keep-going world), and it solved the > problem. -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 cannot start up
try mii-tool if its compatible with the card sys-apps/net-tools-1.60_p20090728014017-r1 (/sbin/mii-tool) Add more "-v" to its command line and you get more info including a ROM readout. BillK On Sat, 2010-08-07 at 10:17 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: > normally, the latest livecd boot up the system, and everything works. > if the livecd boot up and something is not working, i guess it must be > a hardware issue. > > BTW, ifconfig -a does show my eth0 NIC, but ifconfig eth0 up cannot > start my NIC. > > > On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Mick wrote: > > On 6 August 2010 13:45, Xi Shen wrote: > >> i reboot the system, fresh start with livcd. all reports the same error. :( > >> > >> i noticed that the hardware address is 3a:3a:2d:6c:3a:3a, which is > >> obviously an invalid one. i guess it is a hardware failure... > > > > Hmm ... if ifconfig -a does not show your device then this merits > > further investigation. > > > > Does the LiveCD have the requisite driver for your eth0? > > > > In your normal OS the permanent udev rules could have messed up the > > order of your devices (assuming that you have more than one network > > interface) so that eth1 is now eth0. > > > > However, I am not sure that the LiveCD would show the same problem as > > it would run its own udev daemon. Either way, ifconfig -a should show > > all your interfaces and MAC numbers (as long as there is the > > appropriate driver in the kernel). > > > > If it is a hardware failure it may be worth trying to reseat the card > > if separate to the MoBo, or disable/enable in the BIOS to reset it. > > -- > > Regards, > > Mick > > > > > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] gnome 2.30 and laptop
I have upgraded to gnome 2.30 and while there are a few rough edges, the
display is causing real problems.
When I am using a projector ("beamer" for the yanks here :) on external
vga and LCD at the same time, the screen sometimes treats the vga out as
a second screen (not a clone of the first which is what I want). Its
random on how it happens. Then if I start any application, Mr Murphy
will ensure it starts on the wrong output :) I suspect running vmware
at some point before connecting the projector may have something to do
with it (has never happened unless I have run vmware sometime since
boot)
Earlier gnome (<=2.28) had a panel icon for managing the display but
this had dissappeared with 2.30.
so:
1. how can I manage the display from gnome 2.30
2. how can I fix the underlying problem of being cloned sometimes and
not others.
3. how can I do an emergency fix without having to restart X (maybe a
script/xrandr command if it exists?)
i.e., its somewhat disastrous to discover this at the start of a
presentation!)
BillK
--
William Kenworthy
Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg 1.65
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 09:03 +0800, Thomas Yao wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 5:46 AM, dan blum wrote: > > > > I am currently running xorg 1.7, which crashes very frequently. When I used > > to run xorg 1.65 everything was running fine. Can anyone clue me in on > > how to emerge an older version of the program. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > Maybe you should have a look at the portage documentation carefully > and understand it well before you dive into gentoo, it's really > important: > > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1 > > Good luck > and consider going the other way - I am using 1.8.2 (xorg-server) which is more stable for me than the 1.7 series. However, some idea on what your system is may help - certain combinations (xorg-server-1.7.x, inetl driver and tuxonice hibernate are problematic, others are fine with certain workarounds. Can you provide more info such as video card and what the crash is? The actual xorg version should be something like 7.4-r1 so I presume you quoted xorg-server? BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
RE: [gentoo-user] 2.6.30 and reiserfs?
That could have been me - oops in reiserfs "slowpath" (seen in dmesg or logs) . The good (great news for me) is that the bug has gone away in 2.6.31 ... BillK On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 10:25 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > > I am using reiserfs just for my squid-cache nevertheless > > after I booted > > 2.6.30-r4 on an amd64 system, I couldn't create any files on that > > partition. Is there a way to convert the partition to work or > > do I really have to change filesystems? > > I had some weirdness with .30 and reiser. I was using .30 sucessfully for a > few days, then had to hard reset but reiser had problems mounting on reboot. > I tried booting .30 twice with no luck. Booted .29 and it worked fine - in > fact no messages about the filesystem at all - it just loaded normally. I > didn't bother persuing it because I had read about similar issues with .30 > (IIRC on this list) and figured it was probably a kernel bug > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Screen resolution problem
On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 07:36 -0400, David Relson wrote: > On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:23:38 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On Monday 14 September 2009 02:59:28 David Relson wrote: > > > G'day, > > > > > > I'm running Xorg with a minimal config file (only 15 lines - which > > > provide font paths and set the AllowMouseOpenFail option). > > > > > > When I last restarted my computer (about 3 months ago), X came up in > > > 1280x1024 mode. Today I restarted X (because the shift and control > > > keys were non-responsive) and my computer is in 1024x768 mode. I > > > much prefer the higher resolution. > > > > > > I have the Xorg.0.log files from the reboot 3 months ago and > > > today's X restart. What should I be looking at in them to diagnose > > > what has happened differently? > > > > > > Several obvious questions arise: > > > > > >_Why_ did X select a different resolution today? > > >_How_ can I get to the higher resolution? > > >_What_ can I do to prevent a recurrence of this problem? > > > > > > I'm running a 2.6.28-gentoo-r5 kernel with the following packages: > > > > > > x11-base/xorg-x11-7.2 > > > x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 > > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-6.12.1-r1 > > > > Recent Xorg interrogates the hardware to find what resolutions it > > supports and can pick one of those to use. The user can also specify > > their preference, so I reckon you likely didn't specify a preference; > > and what Xorg thinks you want isn't what you want. > > > > Look for the string "EDID" in both logs and make comparisons in that > > area. > > > > Before you do that, run "genlop -l" or examine emerge.log to find > > what upgrades and merges were done in the last three months that > > affect resolution. > > H'lo Alan, > > Here's what genlop found for "x11.*" since June 1: > > Mon Jun 15 00:20:36 2009 >>> x11-libs/openmotif-2.3.2 > Sun Jun 21 11:58:51 2009 >>> x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 > Sun Jun 21 17:59:39 2009 >>> x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 > Sun Jun 21 19:48:37 2009 >>> x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 > > *** GOOD REBOOT > > Fri Jul 10 23:28:06 2009 >>> x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.1 > Sat Jul 11 07:12:12 2009 >>> > x11-themes/gtk-engines-ubuntulooks-0.9.12-r3 Sat Jul 25 13:02:56 2009 > >>> x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 Sun Jul 26 08:24:12 2009 >>> > >>> x11-libs/libgksu-2.0.9 > Sun Jul 26 08:30:31 2009 >>> x11-libs/gksu-2.0.2 > Tue Jul 28 07:24:07 2009 >>> x11-drivers/ati-drivers-8.552-r2 > Fri Aug 7 18:25:05 2009 >>> x11-libs/fltk-2.0_pre6786-r1 > > ati-drivers-8.552-r2 package was present at the reboot and has been > reinstalled since. None of these x11 packages seem relevant. > > Grepping for EDID finds no hits in the old log and multiple occurrences > of RADEON in the new log. Comparing the logs shows VESA in old, but > not new. Here are grep counts: > > r...@osage log # grep -c VESA Xorg.0.old.log Xorg.0.new.log > Xorg.0.old.log:79 > Xorg.0.new.log:4 > r...@osage log # grep -c RADEON Xorg.0.old.log Xorg.0.new.log > Xorg.0.old.log:0 > Xorg.0.new.log:385 > > Perhaps I need to specify VESA in xorg.conf somehow ??? > > Regards, > > David > I ran into the same problem though with different versions of the software a couple of days ago. The only fix that worked was to -hal xorg-server, and recreate the xorg.conf file that I had previously deleted, making sure that EDID and DDC were not being used. Section "Device" Identifier "AtiRadeon" Driver "radeon" VendorName "ATI" Option "DPMS" "On" Option "EnablePageFlip""1" Option "RenderAccel" "1" Option "AGPMode" "4" Option "IgnoreEDID""1" Option "NoDDC" "1" EndSection Not sure all the settings are optimal, but I have a display thats at least at a usable resolution ... It might seem all and good that xorg automaticly chooses the best resolution - but it clearly doesnt. This is on a system running as 1600x1200 for years on the same hardware, with xorg suddenly deciding it can only do 1280x1024 (and even then, it first defaulted to 1024x768). Whatever happened to the idea that in Linux (and esp gentoo-linux) its the "user" thats in control :) It certainly seems someone - seemingly xorg - dropped the ball recently :( BillK
RE: [gentoo-user] Screen resolution problem
On Tue, 2009-09-15 at 11:13 +1000, Adam Carter wrote: > Also check out xrandr, run it without parameters to see what modes it knows > about, then use -s 1280x1024 to set that mode. I have no idea how this > interacts with the other options, but IIRC when I set my old laptop to > 1600x1200 in xorg.conf it was ignored and xrandr worked and was persistant. > xrandr is part of the problem - it doesnt list the modes that used to be available (or that both the monitor and videocard have for that matter), only the ones that xorg *thinks* are available (and it doesnt seem to think very hard about it), which I am convinced is set by Alan's "toss of a coin" method. :) BillK
[gentoo-user] runlevels and service list
Is there a "reference" list of what services should be started in which runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I would like a reference or reason ... BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: runlevels and service list
On Sun, 2009-09-20 at 15:40 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 09/20/2009 03:34 PM, William Kenworthy wrote: > > Is there a "reference" list of what services should be started in which > > runlevels? I am interested in hald and dbus in particular. > > > > Googling shows mostly people set them to the default runlevel, but I > > would like a reference or reason ... > > The reason is that they are used by X, and since X is in the default > runlevel, hal and dbus go there too. > > Lots of other things use them as well - not just X, so thats not a reason (and lots of systems that dont have X but need dbus and hal). I would like to know why they are started in the default run-level, not at boot which seems more reasonable for low level hardware support. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my xorg-server 1.6 seems a bit unstable - what am I doing wrong?
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0400, Denis wrote: > > Let us know what blows up. ;-) > > > > Dale > > Nothing blew up ;-) I was successful removing X, downgrading, and > getting X working again with xorg-server-1.5.3 and libxcb-1.1 > Have you tried "strace'ing" mathematica to see why it dies? BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] ">=net-libs/libsoup-2.25.1:2.4[gnome]" Huh?
On Mon, 2009-10-19 at 10:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Monday 19 October 2009 06:31:24 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Monday 19 October 2009 04:42:43 Dale wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > My light bulb is not working tonight. I just synced and checked for > > > > > > updates and ran into this little "issue": > > > > r...@smoker / # emerge -uvDNfa world > > > > > > > > These are the packages that would be fetched, in order: > > > > > > > > Calculating dependencies ... done! > > > > > > > > emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy > > > > ">=net-libs/libsoup-2.25.1:2.4[gnome]". > > > > !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: > > > > - net-libs/libsoup-2.26.3-r3 (Change USE: +gnome) > > > > (dependency required by "dev-libs/libgweather-2.26.2.1" [ebuild]) > > > > (dependency required by "gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-2.26.3" > > > > [ebuild]) > > > > (dependency required by "app-office/openoffice-3.1.1" [installed]) > > > > (dependency required by "@world" [argument]) > > > > > > > > r...@smoker / # > > > > > > It seems it wants me to turn on the gnome USE flag but I use KDE and > > > have more than enough gnome stuff pulled in already. Is there a "sane" > > > way around this? I know OOo is installed and the data server was pulled > > > in by something ages ago. I have KDE 3.5 and KDE 4 installed. > > > > If you don't use the gnome desktop (just some apps here and there), remove > > gnome from USE. OOo especially wants to pull in a load of stuff with that > > in place > > The way I read Dale, he already has no gnome in USE; portage is asking him to > add it to libsoup's USE flags, which, naturally, he's reluctant to do. > > I had the same thing come up the other day, and I haven't got round to fixing > it yet. > Try adding -gnome to the use flags rather than letting portage get confused. BillK
[gentoo-user] Java and glsa-check
I have multiple systems affected by this: moriah ~ # glsa-check -p affected Checking GLSA 200804-20 >>> The following updates will be performed for this GLSA: >>> For the following packages, no upgrade path exists: dev-java/sun-jdk-1.5.0.20moriah ~ # Yet 1.5.0.20 is supposed to be unaffected. Is this the slotting issue bug 106677 is talking about? I currently have java 1.5 and 1.6, jdk and jre's present on in various combinations - all versions look like they should be ok, all want to apply the glsa but say there is no upgrade path ... BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kernel panic -- finding proper config diff
Run diff on both config files and see what you missed ... BillK On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 21:28 -0600, Maxim Wexler wrote: > > Do you use 'make oldconfig' to generate the .config file for your new > > kernel? I'm getting the impression that you did the menuconfig thing > > from scratch, but maybe I'm wrong? > > I did the 30-r6 from scratch, then copied the .config over to the > 30-r7 slot and ran make oldconfig. No change. > > Least I still have the 29 kernel; it works fine ;) > > mw > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] firefox dies on setting master password
I am having some weird problems on a laptop after the latest X and gnome 2.26 upgrades. Firefox is the most pressing - I cant set a master password. It just dissappears - no mesg in the terminal, no dmesg, no messages log, ... Ive rebuilt firefox, and nss and used revdep-rebuild. It was working for awhile - it is possibly related to trying to fix mimetypes (I am missing some icons in Evolution and few other apps) but cant see the connection. Deleting .mozilla allows firefox to run - until I try and set the master password again ... BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge advises upgrade profile
rattus ~ # eselect profile list Available profile symlink targets: [1] default/linux/x86/10.0 * [2] default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop [3] default/linux/x86/10.0/developer [4] default/linux/x86/10.0/server [5] hardened/linux/x86/10.0 [6] selinux/2007.0/x86 [7] selinux/2007.0/x86/hardened [8] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86 [9] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/desktop [10] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/developer [11] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/hardened [12] selinux/v2refpolicy/x86/server rattus ~ # On Mon, 2009-10-26 at 18:31 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > My profile has been > ../usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/2008.0 > > starting an update system today I'm told my profile is depricated and > to update to default/linux/x86/10.0 > > I've forgotten about how this is done. Is it just a matter of > > ln -sf > /usr/portage/profiles/default/linux/x86/10.0 /etc/make.profile ? > > Or does it involve something like a major regrind of every package? > > A quick google with site:gentoo.org "change profile" shows dozens of > hits in forum messages, but I didn't notice a HOWTO or concise > walk-thru. > > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE4+i945+kernel+external display = ?
f going back to KDM I'm being > dropped to VT7, closer examination shows that KDM is running, but I > can't get to it on any of the VTs. So I kill it and start again. And > KDE4 itself leaves quite a few artifacts on screen (not entirely sure if > it's related to a few effects I have enabled for usability's sake). KDE4 > on my home machine haven't had any of those issues for quite some time > now (it's got different issues though ;) ). > > Another annoyance is that with older kernel vesa framebuffer worked > perfectly fine (... video=vesafb:ywrap,mttr,1280x800...@72 ...) and I > was able to have full-screen framebuffered text console with 1280x800 > resolution on external LCD. Now I get some "viewport"-like console where > content is stuck in the upper-left corner (I assume it's resolution is > 1280x800) but it didn't scale to full screen. > > So my real question is: are there any specific guides I should've > followed instead of playing "hit-n-miss"? Did I miss something along the > way that produces KDM issues? Do I really have to have an xorg.conf only > to disable certain things? How do I deal with my framebuffer so that my > console looks bit more sane and utilizes all given real estate of 26" > monitor and not a mere 50% or so. > > Sorry for bundling all those into one mail, but it kind of popped up > altogether so I felt bad about separating it :-D > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing an old glibc to run a proprietary commercial tool (would that even help?)
I was in a similar position some years ago - grab a copy of the needed libs from somewhere and use "ldpreload" to load them into memory before running the application. Google will help. In some cases, you can symlink the needed lib names to existing later libs and run ldconfig before trying to run the app. This does work sometimes, but success varies ... BillK On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 19:27 -0400, Albert Hopkins wrote: > On Fri, 2009-10-30 at 14:52 -0700, Kyle Bader wrote: > > I dunno how > > flexible the vendor is but its worth asking :) > > They only support RHEL4. RHEL4 was released nearly 5 years ago and uses > the 2.6.9 kernel. I think that shows how flexible they are. :) > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] "deleted inode referenced"
On Sat, 2009-11-07 at 12:05 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > In the course of trying to get X to work on my ASUS 1005HA netbook, > I had to power the machine off several times. In the course of this, > some damage seems to have occurred to the file system. > There are files in /var /tmp which I can't remove: > the msg is "EXT2-fs error: ext2_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 16388". > > I got round the problem by creating new dirs, copying everything else > & renaming the dirs, but that leaves me with /bad1 , which I can't remove > as it contains a reference to an inode which no longer exists. > NB this is not the more common problem of a bad file name, > which cb dealt with simply by removing the inode (which still exists). > > Can anyone help ? > > BTW is Ext2 the best fs for this machine ? Might Ext3 or Ext4 be better ? > -- I use Reiserfs on my desktop machines. > Have you tried fsk on it? - "man e2fsck" The last question is a bit of a "how long is a piece of string" question. My personal experience is ext2 is only for those occasions you dont value the data at all :) ext3 isnt much better unless you use "data=journal" to get some basic protection. But instead of fiddling with such (deleted disparaging comment) file systems, use reiserfs though this may need a complete reinstall . Updates are still occuring to the reiserfs code in the kernel, so reiserfs is not abandoned by any means. ext4, reiserfs4, btfs and the like are too new for me, though I like the look of btfs. I have read some interesting articles in the past about the ext filesystem devs and their inside track on rieserfs in the kernel and the war of words that surrounds it. My personal experience with ext2/3 supports the view that the ext filesystems didn't fairly win the argument based on performance and data protection. Enough said. Unfortunately, filesystems are a very complex and emotive subject with no one choice fits all solution. My suggestion is you have lost data and have problems with what you are using ... time to move on, try ext3 (with "data=journal") next - because you can fix ext2 with e2fsck (though probably lose some data in the process, but ...), convert to ext3 then mount with "data=journal" without having to reinstall. Google for the commands needed ... worked for me. Have fun :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server upgrading problem
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 01:13 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 18:46:15 -0600, Roy Wright wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Was at xorg-server-1.6.3 and current sync tried to upgrade to 1.7.1, > >>> which failed to compile. In researching on b.g.o., discovered that > >>> nvidia has not released a driver yet that will work with 1.7.1, so > >>> followed the bug report directions and masked out several packages to > >>> prevent 1.7.1 upgrading. > >>> > >> I have had xorg-server-1.7.1 and nvidia-drivers-190.42-r[23], working > >> together since Nov 3rd, with no masking or keywording, although this is > >> on ~amd64. For a while the newer xorg was blocked but as soon as the > >> newer nvidia-drivers hit portage, everything upgraded without a hitch. > >> > >> > > I am just in the process of updating a machine stored for over a year - > > relatively straight forward except its taking awhile as expected. It > > has an old TNT nvidia card that needs the older drivers (169 something > > with 2.6.21 is working on it at the moment - I upgraded to 2.6.31 and > > belatedly remembered this Achilles heal for nvidia stuff :) > > > > Are the older nvidia drivers locked to older kernels? If so, is there a > > map that tells what driver version is usable with which kernels? > > > > BillK > > > > > > I have a older card to, FX-5200, and sometimes finding the driver that > works is a trial and error process. Right now I'm using 173.14.20 but a > couple months ago I was using a older kernel and had to use a older > version that was no longer in portage, still in the 173 series tho. If > you have the latest stable kernel, then the latest stable nvidia driver > in your series should work. If not, back up a version and try it. If > it doesn't work just keep backing up until one works. > > You may be able to search the nvidia website to fine the correct drivers > for your model but I don't know if they have one for kernel version. > Just think of it this way, the older the kernel then the older the > driver version. The newer the kernel, the newer the driver should be. > > All that said, I think this is yours: > > http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_71.86.11.html > > If not, try this: > > http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us > > Like me, you have to select legacy in the first menu. > > I would try nvidia-drivers-71.86.11 first and if that doesn't work, try > nvidia-drivers-71.86.09 next. Once you get a working driver, mask the > others so it will stick to it until you upgrade your kernel and start > this process over again. > > Hope that helps. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Decided to sidestep the issue - the nv driver works fine (no multimedia etc needed). This was to be a temporary desktop while waiting for parts for a dead HD in the laptop, but I found it (much) faster to add x, oo etc to a core2 duo server instead of trying to bring the old machine up to date. Will still complete it as you cant have too many backup systems ... as my luck of late has proved :( BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] slotted package - how to switch
On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 12:39 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 12 Nov, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 12 November 2009 13:05:29 Helmut Jarausch wrote: > >> Sorry if this is FAQ but I couldn't find the answer. > >> E.g. I have to versions of dev-libs/libusb installed, one in slot 0 and > >> the other one in slot 1. > >> For testing purposes I'd like to make the slot-0 version 'effective'. > >> How can I do that (other than unmerging the slot-1 version) > >> ASAIK, eselect cannot do this. > > > > > > Why do you want to do that? The package contains only libs, and apps that > > link > > to it already know which on they want. > > > > I suppose you could tinker with LDPATH but I think there's a basic > > misunderstanding of what the package is > > > > The reason is the following bug. > To use an old printer (no USB connector) I've purchased > a USB-to-parallel adapater (since some software like VirtualBox > cannot handle the parallel port). > > [my bug report 291596] : > > When I use 'add printer' from the cups web interface this "printer" isn't > shown and I get the following entry in /var/log/messages: > Nov 2 16:19:41 numa-be kernel: usb[9750]: segfault at 7fff14c3 ip > 7f8d3a50dc0b sp 7fff14c2ced8 error 4 in > libc-2.10.1.so[7f8d3a49+14d000] > > I have started cupsd in foreground but it doesn't show any errors. > Where does this error come from? > > - > > Robin Johnson replied > Did this work on: > - a previous kernel? > - the libusb-0* series? > - ever (what changed since then)? > > Therefore I'd like to test with the older libusb. > > Many thanks for your help, > Helmut. > Just a thought as I have not been following the thread - why not use a network printer? If its gentoo in a virtualbox on a windows machine you can share the windows printer and use cups on the linux side to redirect to it via samba. No need to worry about parallel ports or physical printer connections in the vm, and the original host can continue to use the printer on the parallel port. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/printing-howto.xml Apologies if its already been mentioned. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints needed
Thanks, yes I am aware of the caveats - but they dont really apply when rescuing something as severely broken as this system was - I upgraded 3 machines without a problem, and this one died on reboot - badly :( BillK On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 23:44 -0600, Dale wrote: > Bill Kenworthy wrote: > > Some time back I saw someone mention a way to get emerge to install an > > ebuild with a bad digest - man emerge shows nothing so can someone give > > me a hint. It was much easier than going down the ebuild path. > > > > I think it is --digest. I don't see it in the man page so you may have > to do that with the ebuild command and the manifest option. See man > page to make sure. > > I will also add, you should not do this unless it passed the first test > and you had to edit the file for some reason. It could be corrupt or > altered in some unknown way otherwise. > > > Also, I am in the process of rescuing a system from the > > e2fs/util-linux/device-mapper snafu and find that now I have it booted > > re-emerging util-linux wont overwrite the files I manually installed to > > replace the missing ones - necessitating manually rm'ing some 50 or so > > files - is there a way to force emerge to ignore file collisions and > > just overwrite them in this circumstance? > > > > BillK > > > > > > I think you are looking for this option with emerge: > >--noconfmem > Causes portage to disregard merge records indicating > that a config file inside of a CONFIG_PRO- > TECT directory has been merged already. Portage will > normally merge those files only once to > prevent the user from dealing with the same config > multiple times. This flag will cause the file > to always be merged. > > Keep in mind that it will replace whatever it emerges which may include > dependencies. I have never used that option before so be forewarned if > it does. > > Hope that helps. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints needed
There is often a couple of ebuilds in the tree that need manual editing for one reason or another so the digest needs regenerating. For one off's its easier to do it in situ, but if long term pain is expected its better to do in an overlay. Same day I also got caught with googleearth - tried to install it, the digest is wrong as if they keep changing it (happens nearly everytime for GE). Gave up and just installed it via the google stuff manually so I didnt have to deal with it :) BillK On Sat, 2009-11-21 at 08:38 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:33:17 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > > > Thanks, yes I am aware of the caveats - but they dont really apply when > > rescuing something as severely broken as this system was - I upgraded 3 > > machines without a problem, and this one died on reboot - badly :( > > Too badly to resync? That should fix the digests. The problem with digest > failures in this situation is that you don't know whether the digest is > wrong or one of the files corrupt. > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] OO thesaurus
Apparently US, UK, Aus and some others are rolled into the standard en dictionary - which is available - its only the thesaurus I am having probs with. BillK On Fri, 2009-11-27 at 10:57 +, Mick wrote: > 2009/11/27 Kirill Lipatov : > > got the same thing with english spell-checking. Can't get it to work > > What I find odd is that there is no English-UK dictionary available as > an extension? > > http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/dictionary -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Seamonkey and LastPass
On Sat, 2009-11-28 at 20:44 -0600, Dale wrote: ... > Another situation I was thinking about. Let's say it is as secure as > they CLAIM it to be. If someone stole my puter, I could go to lostpass > and change the master password or just close the account. Then even my > computer would be useless to them. From my understanding you have to > type in the master password from time to time. If it is changed through > the website, I'm sure it would require it to be re-entered. > ... Give most competent techs your machine and the data is theirs - unless you have taken some extreme precautions. Standard IBM hardware is not designed to be secure, and with the exception of some laptops (which in most cases, things like encryption via the IDE interface available on some Dell's and others, isnt even turned on!), most of those are not either. Lostpass looks ideal for those who lose/forget/do not really understand what passwords are about - its better than the alternatives such people come up with (a common, easily guessed password, or none if they can get away with it). Got something valuable/want to keep private, dont use them, or some of the google apps and others. In fact, I know of some who have a separate, locked down a/c on their machines just for banking - no browsing (and no extraneous browser plugins) to other sites etc. - safer! (and relatively simple to do and manage under nix) BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] bluetooth headset
Hi, I am trying get a bluetooth headset working with bluez4. most documentation (even on the bluez site) is is for bluez3 and not applicable. Ive installed bluez4, the gnome bluetooth applet (2.26) associates with the headset fine. The headset is a Motorols S9 and I primarily want just a2dp playback, but it would be nice to get the mic working as well (for VoIP/egiga/...) at some point. But alsa reports: [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: pcm.c:2211:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM bluetooth [AO_ALSA] Playback open error: No such file or directory Failed to initialize audio driver 'alsa:device=bluetooth' Could not open/initialize audio device -> no sound. Audio: no sound Video: no video Ive tried adding the bluetooth stanza as both a separate stanza "pcm.bluetooth", and as "bluetooth" within the existing pcm scope in /etc/asound.names. The headset works on a freerunner (SHR using a2dp) but its not working on the laptop under gentoo :( Anyone got a usable bluez4 guide, or knows how to do this? BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Mothballing a ~arch gentoo system?
On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 20:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > Marcus Wanner wrote: > > When an old (circa 2001) desktop came out of retirement a few months > > ago, I shuffled across Linuxes trying to find something that worked > > well, and finally hit on gentoo. I eventually switched to ~x86 because > > I was tired of using versions of apps from 6 months ago... Too make a > > long story short, I have a new computer now and that one is going back > > into retirement. I may want to use it more in future and would like to > > know how I would go about "mothballing" it so that if it ever needs to > > be used again, bringing it up to date will be as smooth and painless > > as possible. If I need to resurrect it, it will probably be at least a > > year from now. What would you recommend? > > > > Marcus > > > > > > Portage is better but that is a while to go without a update. It mostly > depends on what all is updated with some sort of hiccup between the time > you shut it down and the time you try to update it again. If there is > no major problems then it wouldn't be a issue but of there is multiple > packages with issues, then you have a problem. > > Me, I would put it in a closet or something with a ethernet cable hooked > up and just update it say once every 6 to 8 weeks. Just hope for the > best after that. > > Dale > > :-) :-) I have an "emergency desktop" system at work that I recently pulled out of storage to use (laptop HD died!). Once used, I spent quite a while updating it and was just going to put it aside using Dales suggestion when this thread got me thinking. I am going to clean out gnome and anything not of immediate use leaving just a bare desktop and minimal tools needed for emergency use (OO, evolution) - I'll replace gnome with fluxbox first. Then if it needs to get serious use other packages can be added on the fly. If it looks like longer term use, its easy to add gnome etc back overnight, and while continuing to use the fluxbox desktop. The minimal system should be quicker and simpler to update than a crufty system - and if you have to update much of gnome and the like, updating/reinstalling might take longer than building from scratch anyway (going by my last update to gnome :) BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] Mothballing a ~arch gentoo system?
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 00:27 -0600, Dale wrote: > William Kenworthy wrote: > > On Sun, 2009-12-27 at 20:45 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> Marcus Wanner wrote: ... trim ... > > > > The minimal system should be quicker and simpler to update than a crufty > > system - and if you have to update much of gnome and the like, > > updating/reinstalling might take longer than building from scratch > > anyway (going by my last update to gnome :) > > > > BillK > > > > > > I should also add that I use KDE. So, updating all that takes time plus > if there are packages with "issues" then that adds to the grief. It > appears that it depends on just what you have installed. If it is a > bare system, then it may not be to bad. If it is a full blown KDE like > mine, then that could take a really long while. Of course, portage has > been a lot better at handling blocks here lately too. There are > exceptions and they always confuse the heck out of me but it is a lot > better. That should shorten the update time for a lot of packages. > > Maybe a 'emerge -ep world | genlop -p' would be in order here. > > Dale > > :-) :-) Thats why I think removing gnome (or kde) is a good idea - replace with a lightweight desktop so you still have the required functionality. it is for emergency use after all. I find that building from scratch is usually less of a problem than large updates as blocks and problems seem to occur less often. So it is feasable to spend overnight installing gnome/kde if need be as you still have a usable system in the meantime - may not be as nice as kde, but it will still get the job done.
Re: [gentoo-user] Compressed Filesystem
On Mon, 2009-12-28 at 12:58 +0100, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking for a working and maintained compressed filesystem. > I'd like to use it for backing up my root and my /usr filesystems, > so that I can use rsync to keep it up-to-date. > > I've come across CompFused which seems to be just what I'm looking for, > but it's buggy not maintained anymore. > > Similarly, fusecompress > http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127433 > doesn't build on an up-to-date Gentoo system and doesn't > look maintained either. > > There would be sys-fs/zfs-fuse but that sounds like overkill to me. > > Are there any other packages? > > Many thanks for a hint, > Helmut. Tried a few for this and besides the unmaintained part, they dont stand up to the battering that rsync dishes out - regular corruption. If you have space, look at dirvish (its in portage) on reiserfs. Tried it on ext2 and ext3 - more corruption but reiserfs3 with data=journal is rock solid. The devs reccomend not using a journaled FS for performance, but I found it essential for my setup. Dirvish takes the full size for the first backup. Subsequent backups create hard links to existing files so only differences show up as using space. After a number of backups, total size stabilises around 2x original space unless you add some large files, or do an "emerge -ep world" :) Can be easily managed by cron and ssh keys including how many backups to keep etc. Can use on a local system, or more usually to a remote machine. Restore is as simple as copying the files back (though special files an permissions need to be maintained so a simple copy isnt viable for a full system restore.) BillK
[gentoo-user] evolution and exchange
I am using evolution to successfully read/send email to a local, unencrypted mail server andan IMAPS server using SSL at work. However, the main organisation uses exchange and I want to add this to evolution but cant get it to authenticate to webmail. Firefox accesses the webmail fine using TLSv1, however evolution tries to use SSLv3 (I found out the difference using wireshark). How can I get evolution to use TLS instead of SSL for this account? I have built with and without the SSL USE flag (and without the existing SSL IMAPS account fails of course :( BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] evolution and exchange
The exchange plugin is what you use to connect evolution to OWA
("Outlook Web Access" I think) which is what I am doing. Its the echange
plugin that seems to be trying to use SSL, when firefox which is working
is using TLS.
There is a lot of google results for "evolution cant connect to
exchange", but no solutions.
The strange thing is firefox can authenticate just fine, so how can I
force evolution to do the same.
BillK
On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 18:01 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Montag 25 Januar 2010 09:25:15 schrieb William Kenworthy:
> > I am using evolution to successfully read/send email to a local,
> > unencrypted mail server andan IMAPS server using SSL at work. However,
> > the main organisation uses exchange and I want to add this to evolution
> > but cant get it to authenticate to webmail.
>
> Did you try the exchange plugin (evolution-exchange)?
>
> Bye...
>
> Dirk
>
--
William Kenworthy
Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] PXE and dhcp
Hi, I have a working (new install, Zotac ION) machine destined to be a mythtv diskless frontend - PXE diskless is working fine, but I have a small config issue: I am using noop on eth0 to avoid losing the root mounted over NFS. However, when LO starts, it overwrites /etc/resolv.conf with a blank - how to stop that happening? It would be better to have the normal dhcp working for auto setting of DNS and ntp servers - is that possible without killing the nfs root? BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] Started seeing this in the logs - where do I look?
Started seeing this in the logs - where do I look? May 15 20:18:53 [net.agent] Bad NET invocation: $INTERFACE is not set /etc/conf.d/net looks ok BillK -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How can I make udev play nicely with my palm pilot
I can sync my palm fine using jpilot by hitting sync on the palm, then sync on jpilot. udev creates the nodes (I have set them as /dev/tts/USB0 and /dev/tts/USB1) when the palm sync is run, and deletes them when finished. The problem is that most software (pilot-link, gnome-pilot, ...) seems to expect the nodes to be present all the time - and udev keeps deleting them! Even if I manually create the nodes udev will politely delete them after a sync - causing gnome-pilot to never sync again (until killed/restarted) Manually creating the nodes and commenting out the rule in 50-udev.rules didnt work either (the nodes stayed, just didnt work - no sync). How can I make udev play nicely? BillK -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo discrimination
For a number of reasons, its quite incomplete and inaccurate - especially on older systems! BillK On Thu, 2005-05-19 at 09:09 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, May 19, 2005 2:12 am, Philip Webb said: > > > i don't even do the approved 'emerge world' in maintaining my system > > & i rely on a home-made list of packages i've installed, > > What is the world file if not a home made list of the packages you have > installed? > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I make udev play nicely with my palm pilot
In the end I changed to static nodes for this - I think the whole udev/devfs thing is a solution looking for a problem to solve - overall it creates far more difficulties than the old static system. Next Iam trying to solve the problem why the backup crashes while trying to save some of the java modules. BillK On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 06:11 +0200, Necoro wrote: > Necoro schrieb: > > William Kenworthy schrieb: > > > >> I can sync my palm fine using jpilot by hitting sync on the palm, then > >> sync on jpilot. udev creates the nodes (I have set them > >> as /dev/tts/USB0 and /dev/tts/USB1) when the palm sync is run, and > >> deletes them when finished. > >> > >> ... > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] myrhtv minimums
Ive just been given two old P3 667's, one of which is to be my new gateway, and it looks like I will have enough bits left over for another machine so I am thinking of a PVR using mythtv. is this powerful enough - what is a good minimum? I can use an athlon-xp (2400) to backend it via the network if that can help What is a good, cheap video card with a good tv out for this purpose? BillK -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] zire 31?
/dev/tts/USB1 welcome to the mess thats palm & linux ... BillK On Sun, 2005-06-12 at 14:19 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Jun 12, 2005 at 04:11:36PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote > > > usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 6 > > > > how can i access the device? Have already installed pilotlink, but > > i do not know which name the new device has. There is no /dev/pilot or so. > > > > Can somebody please help? > > Is there a /dev/sda device entry? USB usually shows up as a > pseudo-SCSI device. Try the command... > > fdisk -l > > ...to get a listing of any possible drive-like devices. You may have to > su - or logon as root to run fdisk. > > -- > Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc configuration
There were some changes to the tool chain which means that distcc wont work across different x86 archs (e.g., athlon and pentium) and the devs wont change it (marked as WONT FIX on the bug). The workaround is to add CC-gcc and CXX=g++ to make .conf on the client, however this may break other things, not to mention that it isnt currently working for me with gcc3.4 (multiple toolchain scenario). This is a real pita as distcc is most useful when using a fast modern machine supporting slow older machines, which usually means different x86 archs. If you use distcc, turn logging on on the server and make sure its really working, and not going through the motions and silently erroring off. see the distcc buglist (#84942) and I think some forum posts for the gory details ... BillK On Thu, 2005-06-16 at 12:56 -0400, michael higgins wrote: > I have a couple of questions about using distcc. I have two machines. One is > significantly faster than the other, both x86 (pentium 2 and amd athlon-xp). > > I've followed the http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/distcc.xml instructions for > configuring portage to use distcc. Should I need to continue with the > instructions for "working with automake"? > > Also, how do I tell the faster machine to just use it's own power and not > attempt to use the slower one? > > I tried so far, getting distccd running on both machines, each distcc-config > --set-hosts has one IP entry, that of the other machine. Is this right? > > I ran distcc-gnome and saw no activity reported on the faster machine when > emerging something on the slower one. So, it would seem it's not working. > > Can anyone give me some hints? The manpage for distcc doesn't seem (to me) to > be much related to the gentoo how-to... '-) > > TIA, > > -- > |\ /| | | ~ ~ > | \/ | |---| `|` ? > ||ichael | |iggins\^ / > michael[dot]higgins[at]snet[dot]net -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] distcc configuration
read the bug :) - the bug numbers in the email, or search the forums like I did. Are you sure its building? distcc connects to the machine in question, but doesnt actually build anything as it cant run gcc as the toolchain does not call it gcc internally anymore, but includes i[3456]86 in the naming scheme. So if you are crossing one of these boundaries (i.e., trying o build for a K6 which is i586 using a later pentium which is i686), it wont work. I see I was wrong in citing athlon/pentium as they are both i686 - that being said my athlon pentium combination is not working at the moment, which I will have to look into again soon. BillK On Fri, 2005-06-17 at 09:04 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote: > > There were some changes to the tool chain which means that distcc wont > > work across different x86 archs (e.g., athlon and pentium) and the devs > > wont change it (marked as WONT FIX on the bug). > > Hmm, I haven't heard anything about this and have been using distcc on an > x86 & athlon network. Each host seems to be doing the write thing as all of > the machines are recently sync'd and built. > > What exactly were the nature of the changes and how does this introduce a > bug? > > Also if it is truly a bug, why does the handbook still include the > references to building using distcc? Wouldn't failures in distcc lead to > more installation problems? The apparent stability of a gentoo-based system > would then be subject to question, not something I'd like to see happen... > > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive space low, buildpkg to blame?
the quick & dirty: 'du /|sort -rn|less' or to quickly confirm your suspicions: 'du -sh /usr/portage/packages' BillK On Sat, 2005-06-18 at 21:53 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: > Grant schreef: > > vmware is telling me I'm low on space for /tmp. My hard drive must be > > filling up and I suspect FEATURES="buildpkg" which has been on for a -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] too many devs in /dev since udev
The problem with this is udev doesnt know about a lot of devices. I cant see the sense of trying to replace a simple makdev when needed while having a large directory of nodes (that dont take up any space) versus using often flaky, complex and problematic utilities like devfs and udev where you have to do a fair bit of reading, ask on mail lists and sacrifice chickens to get your new bluetooth dongle working! Wheres the gain? - I certainly have had my share of pain (bluetooth, cdroms, dvd's, ...) with both udev and devfs - devfs does seem less problematic but I guess thats because its older. Overall, I find myself wishing for the old system ... BillK On Mon, 2005-06-20 at 04:07 +0200, Sven Köhler wrote: > Hi, > > i liked the idea of having very few devices in /dev. Since i installed > udev, i got plenty of them. AFAIK, the deives are saved on shutdown and > restored on boot. How can start my gentoo with an empty /dev directory > which is re-populated by udev? > > Thx > Sven -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] distcc not working
Need more info from clients and servers:
architectures of each machine
gcc versions
glibc versions
add
"DISTCCD_OPTS="${DISTCCD_OPTS} --log-level info"
to /etc/conf.d/distccd to each machine. Then check the client and
server syslogs whilst compiling.
If you have a firewall, is port 3632 allowed through?
BillK
On Sat, 2005-06-25 at 20:59 -0600, Joseph wrote:
> I'm reading all the posts regarding distcc and it seems to me everything
> is simple but for some reason or another I don't see any activity with
> distccmon-gnome across my network.
>
> make.conf:
> MAKEOPTS="-j3"
> FEATURES="distcc"
>
> /etc/conf.d/distccd:
> DISTCCD_OPTS="${DISTCCD_OPTS} --allow 10.0.0.103"
>
> /etc/distcc/hosts
> 10.0.0.103 10.0.0.101
>
> 10.0.0.101 - is localhost
> 10.0.0.103 - is remote computer (faster)
>
> Both machines are AMD
> --
> #Joseph
> --
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Re: [gentoo-user] Lilo "L 80" Boot Error
I agree, early genkernels did a good job, then it just started causing too much grief. When faultfinding things like driver problems, boot problems or almost anything kernel, dumping genkernel is a good first step. I suppose they might have fixed it by now, but the problems it caused me means I am in no hurry to try it again. BillK On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 19:47 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 07:06:14 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > > > > Its been said before: many of us dont use genkernel because of various > > > problems... > > > Problems with genkernel? Works fine for me ;-). I haven't use lilo in > > ages though. > > It does cause a lot of problems though. We it works right, you just > accept it without knowing why it's working right. When it goes wrong, you > usually don't know why it has gone wrong. > > genkernel originally simplified kernel building, up to around version > 1.6, but later versions made a seemingly complicated but actually > quite simple task into a seeming simple but actually complicated task. > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: telnet into embedded devices
Which telnet package - theres a couple emerge telnet -s qpkg -l net-misc/netkit-telnetd will give the file locations for the netkit package What are the results of telnet gentoo to debian-box, telnet gentoo-localhost? BillK On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 15:56 -0500, Paul Varner wrote: > On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 14:42 +, James wrote: > > Nope, It's an embedded device on a flat hub with a Gentoo and Debian -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] tvcard tuner (for my bt848) no longer works
Ive just upgraded to 2.6.12-r3 from 2.6.11-r10 and find the tvcard tuner (for my bt848) no longer works. It looks like the "type=0" parameter is no longer accepted (modinfo does not list it or the card parameters anymore). The tuner files in the kernel seem to have changed a bit. Has anyone seen a fix for this? The tuner is an old temic pal (for Oz) which works fine on kernels up to 2.6.11-r10, tho its always been a little "deaf" BillK -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] tvcard tuner (for my bt848) no longer works
Replying to myself: read the docs first! The way the tuner arg is used has changed ... BillK On Fri, 2005-07-08 at 21:18 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: > Ive just upgraded to 2.6.12-r3 from 2.6.11-r10 and find the tvcard tuner > (for my bt848) no longer works. It looks like the "type=0" parameter is > no longer accepted (modinfo does not list it or the card parameters > anymore). The tuner files in the kernel seem to have changed a bit. > > Has anyone seen a fix for this? The tuner is an old temic pal (for Oz) > which works fine on kernels up to 2.6.11-r10, tho its always been a > little "deaf" > > BillK > > -- > William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Home! > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [OT] Re: [gentoo-user] Using TV
killall - kill processes by name 'man killall' BillK On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 16:26 +0200, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: > Ryan Viljoen wrote: > > > ps aux | grep kdetv > > or just a simple > > ps aux > > and than find the process number and use > > kill > > or the simplest: > > pkill kdetv > > RTFM pgrep, pkill -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mplayer is blue!
This happens to me if I use an external monitor, whilst the laptop lcd shows the picture fine (both displaying the same screen at the same time). Does this help? BillK On Sun, 2005-07-10 at 18:06 -0500, Michael Sullivan wrote: > On Mon, 2005-07-11 at 01:54 +0400, Alexander Kirillov wrote: > > I had a problem with mplayer theme colours. > > Never with the picture itself. > > Don't know if my experience is of any use to you > > but you may try mplayer with 16 and 24 colour depth > > and with sse and sse2 use flags if supported by your cpu > > to see if it makes any difference. > > > > > My gmplayer screen (using the X11/Xv video driver (which is the only > > > driver that provides adequate full-screen performance)) is showing blue. > > > The movie's sound comes through, but no picture - just that blue screen. > > > I seem to remember someone had this same problem several months ago, but > > > I cannot seem to find the thread in the archives at gmane.org. Can > > > anyone help me? > > > > They're not supported. :( > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem access to Gentoo from XP over SSH - suggestions?
I have tried shfs ( a kernel module allowing the reomote mount of filesystems over ssh) in the past but over less than perfect connections had file system corruption. Lately I am using WebDav (via davfs or cadaver), both running on my own server, and mounting other systems I have access to onto my laptop as I move around with good success. Gentoo's implementation of davfs is clunky and problematic to manage (interfacing with fstab, having to kill a process after unmounting), but it works reliably. BillK On Fri, 2005-07-15 at 16:08 +0100, Steve [Gentoo] wrote: > I was wondering if others have tackled this before me? > > I only have remote SSH access to my Gentoo box (everything else is fire > walled) and I use this to map ports on my client machine to > corresponding ports on my server machine - so, for example, I can access > IMAP; SMTP, X applications etc. on the Gentoo server remotely. My > remote client is WinXP, and I use Cygwin OpenSSH. Owing to low > bandwidth. While Xwindows is usable it is very slow - command line > interaction without X is acceptable for most tasks but imposes a very > restrictive interface. If possible I would like to be able to edit > (relatively small) configuration files remotely in a text editor running > under windows. > > What would be the easiest way to somehow "map" a network drive on my > Gentoo server from Windows given that I need to tunnel over SSH? > > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OO icons in app have black background!
Bugzilla Bug #96053 There's lots affected so hopefully it will be fixed soon. In the meantime roll back to previous xorg and mask the current one out. BillK On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 10:08 +0200, Ryan Viljoen wrote: > I am currently having a problem with Open Office. All the apps have > black backgrounds for their icons. I am running fluxbox using fbsetbg > to set the background and with a theme. I have tried reemerging OO > with out succcess. > > Any ideas? > > http://babbage.ee.wits.ac.za/~viljoenr/OOerror.jpg > > -- > "When you play a Microsoft CD backwards you can hear demonic Voices... > that's nothing - when you play it forward it installs Windows" > Are you fearing my mouse? <:3___) > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] most of /usr/portage gone--why? and what now}
y > http://www.clarkson.edu > Potsdam, NY USA > Contact:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > == > Welcome to our rsync server. > > receiving file list ... > 1 file to consider > > Number of files: 1 > Number of files transferred: 0 > Total file size: 32 bytes > Total transferred file size: 0 bytes > Literal data: 0 bytes > Matched data: 0 bytes > File list size: 32 > Total bytes written: 203 > Total bytes read: 550 > > wrote 203 bytes read 550 bytes 301.20 bytes/sec > total size is 32 speedup is 0.04 > == > CLARKSON OPEN SOURCE INSTITUTE > http://cosi.clarkson.edu > == > IP: mirror.clarkson.edu > rsync10.us.gentoo.org > Specs: Sun Ultra60 > 2 x 296Mhz CPUs > 1796 MB RAM > 250 GB RAID Storage > Bandwidth: 10 Mbit (when limited) > User Limit: 35 off-campus connections > Location: Clarkson University > http://www.clarkson.edu > Potsdam, NY USA > Contact:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > == > Welcome to our rsync server. > > receiving file list ... > 1 file to consider > 0 files... > Number of files: 1 > Number of files transferred: 0 > Total file size: 0 bytes > Total transferred file size: 0 bytes > Literal data: 0 bytes > Matched data: 0 bytes > File list size: 20 > Total bytes written: 181 > Total bytes read: 538 > > wrote 181 bytes read 538 bytes 287.60 bytes/sec > total size is 0 speedup is 0.00 > >>> starting rsync with rsync://128.118.99.31/gentoo-portage... > >>> checking server timestamp ... > >>> retry ... > > > >>> Starting retry 1 of 3 with rsync://128.153.144.22/gentoo-portage > >>> checking server timestamp ... > > > * An update to portage is available. It is _highly_ recommended > * that you update portage now, before any other packages are updated. > * Please do so and then update ALL of your configuration files. > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT]Throttling/Restricting download speeds
Checkout the QOS modules in the kernel and the iproute package. There's plenty of examples on the net as well as mailing lists and bundled scripts that will serve as a base for what you want to do. Also rsync and wget have bandwidth limiting options that may be easier/more suitable for what you want to do. As with everything that looks good, QOS has some undesirable effects on gross throughput and the smoothness of traffic flow so it doesnt suit everyone. I dont think you can dynamicly alter the rate of wget or rsync, but killing the process and resuming with new parameters a minute or so later via an "at" or "cron" job is easy. I am in OZ and found that with iinet, one has to always be aware of the dynamic change of ADSL rates that occur. Currently I am on 960/7616 up/down and it does go randomly go up or down. In the worst case you could be limiting at a ceiling of 512k when you have ~8M+ available (with QOS you need to set a ceiling rate equal to whats available) Never did find a reliable way around that, but I have since dropped QOS as with these rates it just isn't needed on a home system. BillK On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 18:46 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > Here in Australia the internet access plan I have is capped at 12GB > downloads/month during "peak" hours and then an additional 24GB/month during > "offpeak" hours, ie 2am - 9am. Rather than sit up until 2am to kick off a > download, I was wondering if it was possible to somehow throttle a connection, > or even a port, so that I could kick off the down load at say 11pm with the > connection throttled to only a few KB/s and then at say 2am, a cron job will > unthrottle it back to its full speed hence making most use of the offpeak > time. > I'm currently using gshield on top of iptables as my firewall. > > Any thoughts greatly appreciated. > Andrew -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [tight/real]vnc and ctrl-alt-del
My mistake, I am now in front of a system with net-misc/vnc (I had to revert from tightvnc which wasnt compatible with the viewer on a palm I was using) Its F8 on its own - one of the menu choices is "send F8" of course! I think tightvnc was similar. BillK On Mon, 2005-07-18 at 18:15 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:24 +0800, W.Kenworthy wrote: > > yes there is, I think its right click in vncviewer for the menu, or > > F8 to get the menu. Going from memory but this should point you > > in the right direction. > > There's no Menu at all. > > The SHifts doesn't work either. > > BTW, this is both vnc and tightvnc. Both of them don't have this > option. > > > BillK > > > > On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 17:03 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: > > > I noticed that in the windows version of tightvnc, there is an option to > > > send ctrl-alt-del to window boxes. In the linux version, there is not > > > such capability. > > > > > > Or am I wrong? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ow Mun Heng > > > Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM > > > 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! > > > Neuromancer 17:02:56 up 1 day, 4:28, 8 users, load average: 1.80, 1.56, > > > 1.37 > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ow Mun Heng > Gentoo/Linux on DELL D600 1.4Ghz 1.5GB RAM > 98% Microsoft(tm) Free!! > Neuromancer 18:15:18 up 1 day, 1:22, 8 users, load average: 0.47, 0.36, > 0.28 > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] modifying timezone
equery f sys-libs/timezone-data|grep bin zdump -v /etc/localtime gives what your system is currently doing zic allows you to create your own info. The pollies did that here in Western Australia as well - a couple of weeks notice. Within a day or so of the legislation passing, one of the local Universities made the files available. Within a couple of weeks, an official gentoo update with the changes came through. It was nice being able to sit back and laugh at the windows losers trying to cope (which they didnt do very well) BillK On Thu, 2007-12-27 at 00:10 -0300, Norberto Bensa wrote: > Hello list, > > as one or two of you may already know, Argentina is going to implement > daylight saving time from December 30th until march 16th. We're going > from GMT-03 (now) to GMT-02 (dec-mar), and my question is: what do I > need to do to correctly modify my timezone? > > Google doesn't help this time. I've got examples on how to set your > time zone, i.e.: ln -s /usr/share/zoneinfo/ /etc/localtime > > But that's not what I'm looking for... (damn politicians and all their > crazy ideas...) > > > Many thanks in advance, > Norberto > > > > ---- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Need ebuild no longer in Portage
Also, gentoo has an "attic" where all older ebuilds are archived. You can grab the ebuild and any related files and use your local overlay to keep it around for as long as you need. http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/x11-drivers/ There are nvidia-drivers and a legacy branch for even older. In nvidia-drivers there is a link to view dead files (or attic) - prob same everywhere. BillK On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 07:29 +0100, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: > Am Freitag, 4. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Grant: > > The current version of nvidia-drivers I have installed is pretty old > > but it's the last one I've found that will display the resolution of > > my monitor correctly at 1366x768. The later versions insist on > > 1280x768 I think. I need to re-compile the nvidia module since I'm > > upgrading the kernel, but how can I do that if there is no ebuild? > > There is still the ebuild you have installed from > in /var/db/pkg//. You can copy it over to your local > overlay and keep it there forever. > > HTH... > > Dirk -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Incredibly slow disk access
Check the options for your chipset in the kernel - look at device drivers and ata/... devices. Looks like its just defaulted to the minimum as it hasnt seen what chipset you are using. Also consider moving to libata - seems better where I have tried it. BillK On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 02:26 +0200, Wayn0 wrote: > Hi All, > > I have installed gentoo on my laptop recently and I am having a huge > problem with speed. > > The problem is the insanely slow disk access that I am getting. > > here is some output: > > manticore ~ # hdparm -tT /dev/hda > > /dev/hda: > Timing cached reads: 5702 MB in 2.00 seconds = 2857.11 MB/sec > Timing buffered disk reads:6 MB in 3.37 seconds = 1.78 MB/sec > > manticore ~ # /etc/init.d/hdparm start > * Running hdparm on /dev/hda ... > HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted > [ ok ] > * Running hdparm on /dev/hdd ... > HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted > [ ok ] > > > I read on a forum somewhere that this could be caused by the HAL daemon > so I shut that down and no luck :-( > > Any ideas? > > Thanks > Wayn0 -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Incredibly slow disk access
If you have sata drives, and they are showing up as hdx, you have something seriously misconfigured. They should be showing as sdx. Deselect everything in ATA/ATAPI/MFM/RLL and select the relevant boxes in serial ATA. Dont forget fstab will need redoing to match. I always thought that if you select both, serial ata should take precedence, and in some cases you can access via both, but I have at least one machine that will only work as sata with all the older ata stuff deselected. BillK On Tue, 2008-01-08 at 09:47 +0200, Wayn0 wrote: > Renat Golubchyk wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2008 20:51:02 -0500 "Mark Shields" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> I'd also recommending after checking for the above, also check what > >> level of UDMA is set. Try this: hdparm -I /dev/hda | grep -i dma > >> > >> Yours should say probably either udma3 or udma4. > > > > Why not udma5 ? All my PATA drives (desktop and notebook) run at udma5 > > for some years now without any problems. > > Thanks to everybody that's replied so far. > > I may have missed something kernel wise but my sata drives are > registering as hd* and it refuses to switch on dma. > > I have no doubt this is a kernel config, just not sure where to look. > I don't have the laptop with me at the moment so I will post the kernel > config this evening. > > or perhaps somebody knows right off the bat what the problem is and what > I need to enable and disable. > > I am using the latest gentoo-sources 2.6.23-r8 if memory serves. > > > Thanks again > > Wayn0 > -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Time format in log files
What you are looking at is a unix timestamp - seconds since 1/1/70 (from memory) A number of log analysers will convert it for you. I pipe squid logs and the like through "cat logfile|ccze -C" which will do the conversion on the fly. BillK On Mon, 2008-01-28 at 10:21 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Sunday 27 January 2008 21:54:23 Mick wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > I am sure that someone has asked this before, but a cursory look doesn't > > bring anything up. I am going through some logs and I cannot understand > > what the time was when certain events took place: > > > > [1200806556] SERVICE ALERT: router.xxx > > -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Trying to automate HTML ---> pdf
On Tue, 2008-01-29 at 08:42 +, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 21:24:37 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > $ konqueror http://url.com/page.html --output page.pdf > > > > > > It seems like a common enough thing to want to do. > > > > I was astounded to not find such an option in either firefox or > > konqueror. > > I think it would be more appropriate to include it in kprinter, but I > tried "kprinter someurl" and it couldn't handle HTML. > > Why not a pdf printer: net-print/cups-pdf This used to work well for me, though it was about 12 months ago. A bit clunky and the pdf files were dumped in a non-obvious place - hopefully fixed now. BillK -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Looking for Gnome-Panel mixer applet
Then find out why its not working - works perfectly on all the desktop systems I have. This is probably a sign that you have some deeper problems - tried revdep-rebuild recently? Its also sometimes necessary to rebuild gnome-panel at the same time as gnome-applets - its usually the batter-stat applet segfaulting that this fixes for me. BillK On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 08:23 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * AJ Spagnoletti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Have you tried using the mixer provided by the gnome-applets package. > > It is a simple speaker that you can click that allows you to adjust > > the master volume with a simple slider. > > Took a hell long time for building ... the dependencies are insane ;-o > When I tried to start it, terminated immediately, nothing more > happened. Ergo: unusable :( > > > cu > -- > - > Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ > - > Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: > http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce > Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: > http://patches.metux.de/ > ----- -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Clock issue
Sounds like you have not set the timezone in /etc/conf.d/clock properly. It defaults to the word "Factory" BillK On Mon, 2008-02-11 at 16:38 +0100, Amar Cosic wrote: > Hello all > > I just upgraded my kenel to 2.6.23-r8 and everything seems to be > OK.Only issue I have is clock.Its +1 hour what it should be. I have > this issue before and during boot there was some error that "cant > setup clock from /etc/conf.d/clock , you will have to set it up > manualy" .Unfortunetly I only have ssh acces to my machine and cant > see exact error.In /etc/conf.d/clock I have "local" set up. Bios time > is also what it should be. Before I build something in kernel and > everything was fine. I just cant remember what was it :/ . Any help ? > Thanks > > > > -- > Amar Ćosić > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +38761240095 > http://www.amar.co.ba -- William Kenworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Home in Perth! -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
