Re: [gentoo-user] Portage improved

2024-11-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 3 November 2024 12:56:05 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> On 31/10/2024 11:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > the load steadies out at about
> > 4, with several more in merge-wait. This is with i24 l30 in make.conf.
> 
> How many cores does your CPU have. I've found that load is an
> approximation to "how many cores are running at 100%".

24, which is why I have -i24 -l30 in make.conf. The machine also has 6GB RAM.

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Regards,
Peter.






Re: [gentoo-user] Portage improved

2024-11-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 3 November 2024 23:18:37 GMT Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Sunday 3 November 2024 12:56:05 GMT Wols Lists wrote:
> > On 31/10/2024 11:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > > the load steadies out at about
> > > 4, with several more in merge-wait. This is with i24 l30 in make.conf.
> > 
> > How many cores does your CPU have. I've found that load is an
> > approximation to "how many cores are running at 100%".
> 
> 24, which is why I have -i24 -l30 in make.conf. The machine also has 6GB
> RAM.

Er... 64GB.

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Regards,
Peter.






Re: [gentoo-user] format usb as ext4

2024-11-03 Thread Wol

On 24/10/2024 04:01, Mitchell Dorrell wrote:
I have no idea whether you can skip the partition table and still be 
usable with computers running Windows or Mac OS or with embedded systems 
like home printers or commercial photo kiosks.


Seeing as it's removable media I would expect most of those to have 
problems if you DID have a partition table. It's linux that's unusual in 
being happy with a partition table on removable media.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Renaming files with those pesky picture type characters.

2024-11-03 Thread Wol

On 29/10/2024 15:18, Dale wrote:

Some of the other characters I run into look like this.





As I understand it, these are typically characters your display doesn't 
know how to display. Eg Unicode for which it doesn't have a glyph. Or 
(unlikely nowadays) 8-bit Latin characters when all you've got is 7-bit 
Ascii.


Bear in mind as far as linux is concerned, a file name is a string of 
bytes ending in null, with a couple of forbidden characters eg "/". So 
if your shell or whatever doesn't know how to display the bytes, that's 
what it does.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and clang

2024-11-03 Thread Wols Lists

On 01/11/2024 17:50, Michael wrote:

Thanks!  From what I read briefly, I understand clang is recommended upstream
and therefore was set as a default flag.  However, a rust Vs rust-bin version
clash can occur and since FF patched their code to work with gcc, setting
clang as the default compiler is no longer considered necessary - at least
this is the present status.


On my system, clang is explicitly disabled. This was thanks to Firefox 
and Thunderbird repeatedly failing to compile, which is apparently a 
problem with clang and older CPUs.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] format usb as ext4

2024-11-03 Thread Wols Lists

On 04/11/2024 02:11, Matt Jolly wrote:

Hi,

On 4/11/24 09:35, Wol wrote:

Seeing as it's removable media I would expect most of those to have 
problems if you DID have a partition table. It's linux that's unusual 
in being happy with a partition table on removable media.




That is not the case at all. Without a partition table how would other
OSes handle, say, a USB thumbdrive with multiple partitions?


I wasn't aware they could...


Various *nixes are the systems that don't mind if you just bang a
filesystem directly onto a storage device. Windows would (and does)
have a conniption if this is attempted.

I know linux doesn't care - has never cared, but historically you did 
NOT have partition tables on removable media. Floppy disks didn't have 
partition tables. I'm not aware of early SD cards or USB sticks having 
partition tables. It's only relatively recently with "huge" media sticks 
that partition tables on removable media have become a thing.


If you wanted to boot a Windows install from a USB stick, I'm used to 
just dd'ing the CD iso (shows how long ago that was) to the stick.


Certainly in the early days, istr Windows being unable to find a 
partition table on a USB stick.


Cheers,
Wol



Re: [gentoo-user] format usb as ext4

2024-11-03 Thread Matt Jolly

Hi,

On 4/11/24 09:35, Wol wrote:

Seeing as it's removable media I would expect most of those to have 
problems if you DID have a partition table. It's linux that's unusual in 
being happy with a partition table on removable media.




That is not the case at all. Without a partition table how would other
OSes handle, say, a USB thumbdrive with multiple partitions?

Various *nixes are the systems that don't mind if you just bang a
filesystem directly onto a storage device. Windows would (and does)
have a conniption if this is attempted.

Regards,

Matt



Re: [gentoo-user] Portage improved

2024-11-03 Thread Wols Lists

On 31/10/2024 11:56, Peter Humphrey wrote:

the load steadies out at about
4, with several more in merge-wait. This is with i24 l30 in make.conf.


How many cores does your CPU have. I've found that load is an 
approximation to "how many cores are running at 100%".


It's very noticeable running xosview, that as soon as load goes above 4 
on my 4-core system, response goes through the floor. Which is probably 
because a large chunk of CPU time suddenly gets diverted to scheduling 
and task switching, rather than doing useful work.


Cheers,
Wol