[gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

2024-09-12 Thread Dale
Howdy,

I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
for me. 

What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy
the last instance I used that is still open.  When I open a new
instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other
instances that are running.  Just as a example.  Yesterday I was trying
to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying
and organizing them on my hard drive.  When I put in a USB stick or the
card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open
the USB stick or the card.  Thing is, it tries to copy the instance,
usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs.  I
have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be
to begin with. 

I also have KDE set to save my session.  When I first login with four
saved instances, it creates a mess.  Sometimes, it just jumbles them
up.  Sometimes it sort of works.  It never works like it used to tho. 
Also, sometimes the Folder panel on the left doesn't work either.  It's
either blank or only has /bin and nothing else.  Nothing I do gets it to
work right so I have to start a new instance and close the broken one. 

This is fairly new and very consistent.  It started a couple updates ago
and I was hoping it was a bug and would be fixed.  I'm starting to think
it is a new feature.  I've looked in preferences and can't find any
setting related to this behavior.  Smplayer for example has a setting
for either multiple or single instances.  It works the way you set it. 
I can't find anything similar in Dolphin tho. 

Anyone have any info on this?  Is this the new way Dolphin works?  Is
there a way to disable it somewhere?  Do I need to look for another file
manager that behaves like I want? 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

2024-09-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> Howdy,
> 
> I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
> something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
> instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
> instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
> so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
> instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
> cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
> use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
> different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
> for me. 
> 
> What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy
> the last instance I used that is still open.  When I open a new
> instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other
> instances that are running.  Just as a example.  Yesterday I was trying
> to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying
> and organizing them on my hard drive.  When I put in a USB stick or the
> card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open
> the USB stick or the card.  Thing is, it tries to copy the instance,
> usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs.  I
> have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be
> to begin with. 

Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a 
fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal 
state.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

2024-09-12 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>> Howdy,
>>
>> I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
>> something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
>> instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
>> instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
>> so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
>> instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
>> cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
>> use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
>> different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
>> for me. 
>>
>> What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy
>> the last instance I used that is still open.  When I open a new
>> instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other
>> instances that are running.  Just as a example.  Yesterday I was trying
>> to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying
>> and organizing them on my hard drive.  When I put in a USB stick or the
>> card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open
>> the USB stick or the card.  Thing is, it tries to copy the instance,
>> usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs.  I
>> have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be
>> to begin with. 
> Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a 
> fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal 
> state.
>
> -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Abolish Christmas, Joseph
> confessed everything!


I saw that setting.  First place I looked.  Thing is, since I didn't
want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't
work.  I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that
place.  Given you said that would work, I tried it.  I set it to /, or
root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts
and opens the folder I clicked on.  Did that a few times just to be
sure.  LOL  I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the
notification thingy to open in File Manager.  Yep, it opened right where
it should.  I was looking for a instance setting or something since it
kept copying other running instances and their tabs.  I wouldn't have
ever thought to try that setting.

They might want to explain that setting a little bit.  While I saw it, I
certainly didn't expect it to behave this way.  I expected it to open at
that location no matter how Dolphin was started. 

I'll play with this a few days but so far, looks like a good solution. 

Thanks much.  I can stop pulling my hair out now. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  Planning to try that checksum script soon.  It's a large number
of files so it will take a long time to run.  I think you mentioned that
if stopped, it will resume where it left off.  Oh, I did use rsync and
checksum option on backups the other day.  I couldn't check all the
files tho.  I just checked the ones recently accessed.  It found four
out of the few hundred I checked.  I restored them after some testing. 


Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

2024-09-12 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:53:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale:

> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> > Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
> >> Howdy,
> >>
> >> I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
> >> something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
> >> instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
> >> instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
> >> so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
> >> instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
> >> cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
> >> use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
> >> different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
> >> for me. 
> >> […]
> > Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a 
> > fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal 
> > state.
> 
> I saw that setting.  First place I looked.  Thing is, since I didn't
> want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't
> work.  I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that
> place.  Given you said that would work, I tried it.  I set it to /, or
> root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts
> and opens the folder I clicked on.  Did that a few times just to be
> sure.  LOL  I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the
> notification thingy to open in File Manager.  Yep, it opened right where
> it should.  I was looking for a instance setting or something since it
> kept copying other running instances and their tabs.  I wouldn't have
> ever thought to try that setting.
> 
> They might want to explain that setting a little bit.  While I saw it, I
> certainly didn't expect it to behave this way.  I expected it to open at
> that location no matter how Dolphin was started. 

Perhaps it’s actually a bug. Even if Dolphin is supposed to restore a 
previous session, it *should* open the location it is given by parameter.

> P. S.  Planning to try that checksum script soon.  It's a large number
> of files so it will take a long time to run.  I think you mentioned that
> if stopped, it will resume where it left off.

Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums 
where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need 
to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to 
skip at the beginning.

Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its 
behaviour. The normal way to go is:

dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files
dh [DIR] do read it back
Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning.

Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that 
have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a 
hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.

2024-09-12 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:53:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
>
>> Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
>>> Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale:
 Howdy,

 I use Dolphin a lot.  I like it and all but recently, it started doing
 something that annoys me.  When I'm doing something, I tend to open a
 instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing.  I also leave
 instances open and ready for when I do routine things.  Some things I do
 so often, I leave them open all the time.  Usually that is four
 instances.  If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail
 cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task.  So, I
 use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in
 different places.  It just makes things easier, faster and works best
 for me. 
 […]
>>> Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a 
>>> fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal 
>>> state.
>> I saw that setting.  First place I looked.  Thing is, since I didn't
>> want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't
>> work.  I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that
>> place.  Given you said that would work, I tried it.  I set it to /, or
>> root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts
>> and opens the folder I clicked on.  Did that a few times just to be
>> sure.  LOL  I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the
>> notification thingy to open in File Manager.  Yep, it opened right where
>> it should.  I was looking for a instance setting or something since it
>> kept copying other running instances and their tabs.  I wouldn't have
>> ever thought to try that setting.
>>
>> They might want to explain that setting a little bit.  While I saw it, I
>> certainly didn't expect it to behave this way.  I expected it to open at
>> that location no matter how Dolphin was started. 
> Perhaps it’s actually a bug. Even if Dolphin is supposed to restore a 
> previous session, it *should* open the location it is given by parameter.

Well, so far it has been working fine.  I've had to open a couple things
and have been using instances that I have running all the time.  It's
working like I want it seems. 


>> P. S.  Planning to try that checksum script soon.  It's a large number
>> of files so it will take a long time to run.  I think you mentioned that
>> if stopped, it will resume where it left off.
> Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums 
> where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need 
> to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to 
> skip at the beginning.
>
> Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its 
> behaviour. The normal way to go is:
>
> dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files
> dh [DIR] do read it back
> Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning.
>
> Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that 
> have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a 
> hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago.
>

Well, I read through the help page and settled on this.  I might have
did this wrong.  ;-)

/root/dh -c -F 1Checksums.md5 -v

Right now I have the command in /root.  I just did a cd to the parent
directory I wanted it to work on and then ran that command.  Right now,
it is working on this bit.


(dir 141 of 631)

and

(file  8079 of 34061)

It has been running for about 6 hours or so now.  I think it's gonna
take a while.  I asked it to change the name a bit so that the checksum
file would be at the top.  That way if I go to a directory and want to
watch every video in that directory, I can do a CTRL + A and then hold
the control key and click to deselect the checksum file which should be
at the top.  Then start the video player.

I was wondering tho, is there a way to make it put all the checksum
files in one place, like a directory call checksums, and they just all
go in there?  Or just a single file in the parent directory?  That way
the files aren't in each directory.  Thing is, can I still just run it
on one directory if I have a suspected bad one?  Your tool does a lot. 

So far, yet another awesome script tool.  Awesome work.  This should
pick up on file problems easy enough. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  USPS claimed my memory sticks would arrive by Wednesday.  Still
not there.  Just says arriving late now.  Should have sent via UPS or
something.  LOL  Oh, did get some rain today.  Also got some serious wind.