Re: [gentoo-user] Handling a sizable amount of spam and Dovecote question
Wols Lists wrote: >> Well, for the moment, I want to use it for gmail that I'm posting with. >> My reason for this, Seamonkey is in a iffy state. I've already started >> using Firefox and containers for most other things but use Seamonkey >> mostly for emails. My hope, set up something local so that I don't lose >> any older emails and then be able to access those emails with whatever >> web browser or other tool I want, like Firefox. Of course, I'd want to >> be able to send email as well. Maybe this is a bigger task than I think >> it is. Either way, I have Dovecote installed, think it is working but >> no idea what to do with it. >> > Just point your email client at dovecot. Or rather, create an account, > in your mail client, that points at your dovecot server. Bingo, one > empty IMAP mail account. I was hoping to use a web browser like Firefox to access my email. One reason for this, I have multiple Firefox profiles. My hope is that if I click on a link in Firefox, it will open in the same profile, as a new tab for example. I can't see why that wouldn't work. Thing is, I can't get Firefox, or any other browser, to connect no matter what I try. So, I'm lost. I don't like Thunderbird at all plus, I'd be depending on it. I suspect I could transfer even if I had to move away from Dovecote for some reason. I'm not sure about Seamonkey transferring tho. May be touchy on that. > > Now go into your ISP account in the same mail server, and set up > client filters to move all your mail across into your local (dovecot) > account. > > That way you don't need postfix, or fetchmail, or any other fancy > mailer service, you're using your normal mail client to copy your > emails from your isp down to your local system, and categorise and > sort them. > > I have rules that move all my mailing lists into dedicated folders, > marketing junk into dedicated folders (that expire), etc etc. I don't > actually have that much spam, but I have rules that move what I > recognise straight into "Deleted" :-) > > Then your spam filter will end up like mine was at work - "Anything I > want gets moved into dedicated folders, anything left is probably > spam". So at regular intervals I just sorted my inbox by subject, and > bulk-deleted pretty much the lot. When scanning by subject, you tend > to get multiple spams with the same subject, so any ham will stand out > because there's just the one ... > > (Of course, you could configure fetchmail to collect your mail and > dump it straight into dovecot ...) > > Cheers, > Wol > > I already divide my emails into folders. Example, any email that contains [gentoo-user] goes to the gentoo-user folder. Similar for -dev etc. I also have folders for things like banking, friends, family, shopping websites etc etc. Well over 95% of my emails goes to a folder other than the general purpose inbox. Any email that will be a regular thing gets filtered to something. Most of what is in the inbox is either a one time thing or spam. Right now, I just have it set to emtpy the trash, a LOT. Clicking the unsub link is doing no good at all. What stupid politician came up with that idea anyway. My plan is to have it so I'm not so dependent on Seamonkey. I want something, Dovecote for example, that will fetch new emails from gmail, or any other service if I move, and also allow me to send emails as well. The actual emails tho would be here on my puter, as they are now but at the moment depends on Seamonkey. Seamonkey seems to be on its last legs. It's bad enough that it isn't maintained much in the tree but I don't think upstream is keeping things working either. It needs a rewrite sort of like Firefox did. Finding or updating add-ons for Seamonkey is almost non-existant. Some add-ons haven't been updated in ages or are not even available at all. As a example, I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden almost a year ago. I can't find a Bitwarden add-on for Seamonkey at all. I'm stuck using Lastpass which is at a version a few years old. There's no telling what security holes it may have. Even the very common and popular adblock hasn't been updated in ages. My concern, losing Seamonkey completely and losing all my emails with it. I'd like to have a better way but I'm not sure I can do that. This appears to be complicated. I may search for a video on this. Maybe watching someone else do this will helps. I dunno. I got the service to start but after that, I'm clueless. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Handling a sizable amount of spam and Dovecote question
Am Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 06:29:06AM -0600 schrieb Dale: > > Just point your email client at dovecot. Or rather, create an account, > > in your mail client, that points at your dovecot server. Bingo, one > > empty IMAP mail account. > > I was hoping to use a web browser like Firefox to access my email. That would require the setup of a webmail client, like roundcube or horde. Firefox is just the display layer, the actual mail client is the webmail software, which connects to the mail server and generates the human-readable stuff. -- Grüße | Greetings | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Only in the encyclopedia the world is in order from A to Z. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Handling a sizable amount of spam and Dovecote question
I already divide my emails into folders. Example, any email that contains [gentoo-user] goes to the gentoo-user folder. Similar for -dev etc. I also have folders for things like banking, friends, family, shopping websites etc etc. Well over 95% of my emails goes to a folder other than the general purpose inbox. Any email that will be a regular thing gets filtered to something. Most of what is in the inbox is either a one time thing or spam. Right now, I just have it set to emtpy the trash, a LOT. Clicking the unsub link is doing no good at all. What stupid politician came up with that idea anyway. My plan is to have it so I'm not so dependent on Seamonkey. I want something, Dovecote for example, that will fetch new emails from gmail, or any other service if I move, and also allow me to send emails as well. The actual emails tho would be here on my puter, as they are now but at the moment depends on Seamonkey. Okay, a little reading will tell you that Dovecot's mail store is chooseable between Maildir and mbox format. So your mail is physically stored on your hard drive in a totally standard format that most mail agents can read. I'll leave you to find WHERE Dovecot puts it, it's not hard :-) Seamonkey seems to be on its last legs. It's bad enough that it isn't maintained much in the tree but I don't think upstream is keeping things working either. It needs a rewrite sort of like Firefox did. Finding or updating add-ons for Seamonkey is almost non-existant. Some add-ons haven't been updated in ages or are not even available at all. As a example, I switched from Lastpass to Bitwarden almost a year ago. I can't find a Bitwarden add-on for Seamonkey at all. I'm stuck using Lastpass which is at a version a few years old. There's no telling what security holes it may have. Even the very common and popular adblock hasn't been updated in ages. My concern, losing Seamonkey completely and losing all my emails with it. I'd like to have a better way but I'm not sure I can do that. This appears to be complicated. Find out what Seamonkey (like Dovecot) does with its mails. If your Dovecot service is working, you should be able to just create an account in Seamonkey, tell it your computer provides an IMAP service, connect, and copy your emails into this account. Dovecot will then stash them in its cache, where you can get at them with a text editor or better. I may search for a video on this. Maybe watching someone else do this will helps. I dunno. I got the service to start but after that, I'm clueless. Learn a bit more about mail transport, and which tools do which job. Then make sure you're not using the wrong tool - like asking Postie to drive a delivery truck ... Okay lets start at the beginning: An MTA (Postfix, qmail, sendmail) transfers bulk mail between Post Offices like gmail.com, yahoo.de, youngman.org.uk. That's over port 25. They then dump it into a PO Box. You now have two choices. You need a mail client (mutt, thunderbird, seamonkey, Eudora, etc) or a web client. And you can read your email over one of three different protocols. A mail client using POP is like you going to the Post Office (or postie coming to you) and transferring all your mail from the post office to your front door. A mail client using IMAP is like you going to your PO Box at the post office, and treating it like a reading room, reading your mail and leaving it behind it the box when you go. A web browser using http is pretty much the same as a mail client with IMAP. Now the big question is, is your mail client running on the same server as the post office? If it is, and you are storing mail locally in your account, a Mail Forwarding Agent typically collects it on your behalf (like postie) from the PO Box and dumps it in your account for your mail client to find. Otherwise, your mail client has to reach out and fetch it with POP. If your mail client is using IMAP, it will often cache your email much like if you were using POP, but it leaves the master copy in the Post Office. Think of IMAP as the counter clerk looking after your mail / PO Box for you. If you want to have a local post office, and read your mail with a web client, you will need a mail web server - I believe squirrelmail is one such. So if you're worried about the integrity of your mail, you need to worry about where and how it is stored. And if you are using SeaMonkey as an IMAP client, it does NOT have the master copy. If you lost SeaMonkey, you just need a different client and the data will still be there. That's why I use thunderbird as my IMAP client, and move my email from my cloud "youngman.org.uk" server to my local dovecot IMAP server "youngman.org.uk". So now my email is cached in thunderbird, and stored in dovecot. And because I know dovecot uses industry-standard mail storage, should anything happen to that I can just import it into any other tool that understands it.
[gentoo-user] dmesg on boot - is this behind my crashes?
I've got a slightly unstable system, and I'm beginning to get a feel that it's something to do with my Radeon graphics card. I've got a Ryzen 3 processor, so I'm not using onboard graphics. Output attached - can anybody give me any clues? There's what looks like a crash where it says "cut here", and the intel sound driver is unhappy ... Cheers, Wol [9.784205] systemd[1]: Finished Remount Root and Kernel File Systems. [9.784454] systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in First Boot Wizard being skipped. [9.808757] systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Rebuild Hardware Database being skipped. [9.809256] systemd[1]: Starting Load/Save Random Seed... [9.809469] systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Create System Users being skipped. [9.809870] systemd[1]: Starting Create Static Device Nodes in /dev... [9.839386] vboxdrv: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel. [9.841225] vboxdrv: Found 4 processor cores [9.857287] vboxdrv: TSC mode is Invariant, tentative frequency 3493435186 Hz [9.857351] vboxdrv: Successfully loaded version 6.1.28 r147628 (interface 0x0032) [9.873100] systemd[1]: Condition check resulted in Update is Completed being skipped. [9.873669] systemd[1]: Starting Record System Boot/Shutdown in UTMP... [9.873990] systemd[1]: Started Journal Service. [9.938060] VBoxNetAdp: Successfully started. [9.959986] VBoxNetFlt: Successfully started. [ 10.109799] systemd-journald[1071]: Received client request to flush runtime journal. [ 10.270589] systemd-journald[1071]: File /var/log/journal/053db4036a25efc6f8d2186a603c3f79/system.journal corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing. [ 12.260700] Buffer I/O error on dev dm-5, logical block 33554416, async page read [ 12.262882] Buffer I/O error on dev dm-3, logical block 33554416, async page read [ 12.401372] r8169 :08:00.0 enp8s0: renamed from eth0 [ 12.583888] Loading firmware: rtl_nic/rtl8168h-2.fw [ 12.825283] Generic FE-GE Realtek PHY r8169-0-800:00: attached PHY driver [Generic FE-GE Realtek PHY] (mii_bus:phy_addr=r8169-0-800:00, irq=IGNORE) [ 12.966102] Adding 67108860k swap on /dev/sda2. Priority:1 extents:1 across:67108860k [ 12.990798] r8169 :08:00.0 enp8s0: Link is Down [ 13.212665] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. [ 13.212768] radeon :09:00.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console [ 13.213438] Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25 [ 13.213656] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (RV710 0x1002:0x954F 0x1043:0x02A8 0x00). [ 13.213717] ATOM BIOS: [ 13.214123] radeon :09:00.0: VRAM: 512M 0x - 0x1FFF (512M used) [ 13.214127] radeon :09:00.0: GTT: 1024M 0x2000 - 0x5FFF [ 13.214131] [drm] Detected VRAM RAM=512M, BAR=256M [ 13.214133] [drm] RAM width 64bits DDR [ 13.214172] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 16404706 KiB [ 13.214175] [TTM] Zone dma32: Available graphics memory: 2097152 KiB [ 13.214177] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator [ 13.214181] [TTM] Initializing DMA pool allocator [ 13.214193] [drm] radeon: 512M of VRAM memory ready [ 13.214195] [drm] radeon: 1024M of GTT memory ready. [ 13.214202] [drm] Loading RV710 Microcode [ 13.214204] Loading firmware: radeon/RV710_pfp.bin [ 13.386412] Loading firmware: radeon/RV710_me.bin [ 13.433615] Loading firmware: radeon/R700_rlc.bin [ 13.433836] Loading firmware: radeon/RV710_smc.bin [ 13.434823] [drm] Internal thermal controller without fan control [ 13.435486] [drm] radeon: dpm initialized [ 13.435489] Loading firmware: radeon/RV710_uvd.bin [ 13.471544] [drm] GART: num cpu pages 262144, num gpu pages 262144 [ 13.472432] [drm] enabling PCIE gen 2 link speeds, disable with radeon.pcie_gen2=0 [ 13.483464] [drm] PCIE GART of 1024M enabled (table at 0x0014C000). [ 13.483490] radeon :09:00.0: WB enabled [ 13.483493] radeon :09:00.0: fence driver on ring 0 use gpu addr 0x2c00 [ 13.483495] radeon :09:00.0: fence driver on ring 3 use gpu addr 0x2c0c [ 13.483686] radeon :09:00.0: fence driver on ring 5 use gpu addr 0x0005c598 [ 13.483853] radeon :09:00.0: radeon: MSI limited to 32-bit [ 13.483889] radeon :09:00.0: radeon: using MSI. [ 13.483912] [drm] radeon: irq initialized. [ 13.530078] [drm] ring test on 0 succeeded in 1 usecs [ 13.530084] [drm] ring test on 3 succeeded in 2 usecs [ 13.706180] [drm] ring test on 5 succeeded in 1 usecs [ 13.706185] [drm] UVD initialized successfully. [ 13.706260] [drm] ib test on ring 0 succeeded in 0 usecs [ 13.706279] [drm] ib test on ring 3 succeeded in 0 usecs [ 14.360113] [drm] ib test on ring 5 succeeded [ 14.360313] [drm] Radeon Display Connectors [ 14.360316] [drm] Connector 0: [ 14.360317] [drm] VGA-1 [ 14.360319] [drm] DDC: 0x7e40 0x7e40 0x7e44 0x7e44 0x7e48 0x7e48 0x7e4c 0x7e4c [
Re: [gentoo-user] dmesg on boot - is this behind my crashes?
On Sunday, 23 January 2022 16:20:25 GMT Wols Lists wrote: > I've got a slightly unstable system, and I'm beginning to get a feel > that it's something to do with my Radeon graphics card. I've got a Ryzen > 3 processor, so I'm not using onboard graphics. Output attached - can > anybody give me any clues? There's what looks like a crash where it says > "cut here", and the intel sound driver is unhappy ... > > Cheers, > Wol Yes, it seems this is a HD_Audio codec problem. Have a look here - search for azx: https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/alsa-configuration.html > [ 61.464425] snd_hda_intel :0b:00.3: Cannot probe codecs, giving up > [ 61.464558] [ cut here ] > [ 61.464579] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 1447 at sound/hda/hdac_bus.c:72 > snd_hdac_bus_exit+0x3b/0x50 > [ 61.464610] Modules linked in: radeon i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper > syscopyarea sysfillrect sysimgblt fb_sys_fops ttm vboxnetflt(O) > vboxnetadp(O) vboxdrv(O) drm > [ 61.464669] CPU: 0 PID: 1447 Comm: kworker/0:11 Tainted: G > O 5.10.76-gentoo-r1 #1 > [ 61.464701] Hardware name: To Be Filled By O.E.M. To Be Filled By > O.E.M./B450 Gaming K4, BIOS P3.90 12/12/2019 > [ 61.464739] Workqueue: events azx_probe_work > [ 61.464756] RIP: 0010:snd_hdac_bus_exit+0x3b/0x50 > [ 61.464774] Code: 75 19 48 8b 57 58 48 8d 47 58 48 39 c2 75 1b 48 81 > c7 f8 02 00 00 e9 e4 b2 77 ff 0f 0b 48 8b 57 58 48 8d 47 58 48 39 c2 74 > e5 <0f> 0b 48 81 c7 f8 02 00 00 e9 c7 b2 77 ff 0f 1f 80 00 00 00 00 41 > [ 61.464841] RSP: 0018:941940d33e88 EFLAGS: 00010206 > [ 61.464860] RAX: 8a6f05002880 RBX: 8a6f05002828 RCX: > 8020001e > [ 61.464886] RDX: 8a6f052a1af8 RSI: 0001 RDI: > 8a6f05002828 > [ 61.464911] RBP: 8a6f05002e90 R08: R09: > 0001 > [ 61.464936] R10: 8a6f050a6100 R11: R12: > 8a75fe829880 > [ 61.464961] R13: R14: 8a75fe82d800 R15: > > [ 61.464987] FS: () GS:8a75fe80() > knlGS: > [ 61.465016] CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 80050033 > [ 61.465037] CR2: 55a1ba3c997c CR3: 000103c54000 CR4: > 003506f0 > [ 61.465062] Call Trace: > [ 61.465073] azx_free+0xcf/0x1d0 > [ 61.465096] process_one_work+0x1cf/0x360 > [ 61.465111] worker_thread+0x48/0x3c0 > [ 61.465125] ? rescuer_thread+0x390/0x390 > [ 61.465140] kthread+0x116/0x130 > [ 61.465152] ? __kthread_bind_mask+0x60/0x60 > [ 61.465169] ret_from_fork+0x22/0x30 > [ 61.465182] ---[ end trace ba7e254e6c701850 ]--- > [ 127.562555] systemd-journald[1071]: File > /var/log/journal/053db4036a25efc6f8d2186a603c3f79/user-1000.journal > corrupted or uncleanly shut down, renaming and replacing. > [ 127.752386] xauth (1611) used greatest stack depth: 12424 bytes left > [ 176.527986] EXT4-fs (dm-13): mounted filesystem with ordered data > mode. Opts: (null) > [ 178.163161] EXT4-fs (dm-14): mounted filesystem with ordered data > mode. Opts: (null) > [ 1000.504858] kworker/dying (42) used greatest stack depth: 12320 bytes > left > [ 7562.479834] kworker/dying (3091) used greatest stack depth: 12296 > bytes left > anthony@thewolery ~/gitstuff/ScarletDME/Sphinx/docs $ You could try compiling audio as modules and modprobing them for additional info/options. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
