Re: [gentoo-user] Default USE flags for net-libs/webkit-gtk
Ühel kenal päeval, R, 09.11.2018 kell 10:59, kirjutas Yongming: > Hi all, > > I wonder if there is a place to read previous discussions for a > package/ebuild. Specifically, I am interested in the rationale behind > having the "geolocation" flag on by default for net-libs/webkit-gtk. > > Currently on a desktop, having "geolocation" pulls in "geoclue" > (which > in turn pulls in "modemmanager" and so on), which is seemingly > unnecessary in my case. I understand that these dependencies can be > customised via /etc/portage/package.use/*, but I am also curious > about > the thinking behind net-libs/webkit-gtk having "geolocation" flag on > by default. We were asked this off-list. Now catching up, it seems that didn't reach the list too, so here's belated information to others as well: geolocation is a browser engine feature that is expected to be built by default. Yes, it very likely also is default enabled by upstream, but we also want to provide an out of the box good experience for browsers built on top of webkit-gtk (such as epiphany and midori), which means working geolocation support. Thus the default remains. However, based on that query, we instead ended up removing the default enabling of USE=modemmanager from geoclue itself. As a result, odemmanager is not pulled in anymore for webkit-gtk without user making that choice via enabling USE=modemmanager due to actually having a modem (think 4G mobile modems, not the dial-up kind). Mart signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Odd problem with Xorg
On 11/30/18 1:33 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: Thank you, Dan. I hadn't heard of it, but your report immediately suggested I try it to reduce the wait while chronyd started, on two machines here. Worked like a charm: no waiting for enough entropy to be collected. No problem. What's weird is that bug is known to affect kernels 4.16.x but all my machines use 4.14.x. Out of eight machines only one of them had this problem, which is even more strange. It does happen to be the oldest machine, though. That laptop has had slow boots, but not necessarily Xorg, for a long time and I could never figure it out. I even installed an SSD thinking it could've been the HDD in it a couple years ago; that's how long the slow booting has happened. Never occured to me the random number generator could cause that. Dan
[gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
I've been trying to clean up my machines (pruning world file, etc) and am making progress. I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I am normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for something. Does anyone have suggestions for a small-footprint window manager (I have no need for a full desktop environment) as twm is just fugly and sometimes not intuitive. I also don't need a file manager as I use Midnight Commander which works well for my needs. This all stems from occasionally needing a gui for configuring mythtv or the ability to have two shells open side by side. I am thinking others have most likely had this problem at some point and have found something that's lightweight for this type of purpose. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
Daniel Frey wrote: > I've been trying to clean up my machines (pruning world file, etc) and > am making progress. > > I ran into one issue, that being on my server (mythtv, file, etc) I am > normally in text/ssh mode but occasionally I need X for something. > > Does anyone have suggestions for a small-footprint window manager (I > have no need for a full desktop environment) as twm is just fugly and > sometimes not intuitive. I also don't need a file manager as I use > Midnight Commander which works well for my needs. This all stems from > occasionally needing a gui for configuring mythtv or the ability to > have two shells open side by side. > > I am thinking others have most likely had this problem at some point > and have found something that's lightweight for this type of purpose. > > Dan > > It's been a while but last I used Fluxbox, it was tiny. If you just do a basic install, it isn't much to it. Of course, it isn't feature rich either but it should run well on a low powered machine or consume very little resources on a bigger system. I've got two fluxbox packages installed here. Here is some info on them. root@fireball / # equery s x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod x11-wm/fluxbox * x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod-20050128-r1 Total files : 1539 Total size : 4.22 MiB * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r3 Total files : 339 Total size : 3.89 MiB root@fireball / # I'm not sure the top one is needed. I think I installed it so I could tweak a few things. At one point, I thought about switching, back when KDE was a disaster. I'm sure others will have ideas but you may want to check into Fluxbos. Install time is pretty short. If you don't like it, just unmerge it. I keep it installed here just in case a KDE update goes sideways. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
On 12/1/18 8:38 PM, Dale wrote: It's been a while but last I used Fluxbox, it was tiny. If you just do a basic install, it isn't much to it. Of course, it isn't feature rich either but it should run well on a low powered machine or consume very little resources on a bigger system. I've got two fluxbox packages installed here. Here is some info on them. root@fireball / # equery s x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod x11-wm/fluxbox * x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod-20050128-r1 Total files : 1539 Total size : 4.22 MiB * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r3 Total files : 339 Total size : 3.89 MiB root@fireball / # I'm not sure the top one is needed. I think I installed it so I could tweak a few things. At one point, I thought about switching, back when KDE was a disaster. I'm sure others will have ideas but you may want to check into Fluxbos. Install time is pretty short. If you don't like it, just unmerge it. I keep it installed here just in case a KDE update goes sideways. Dale :-) :-) Thanks Dale! After the new stable 4.14.x kernel finishes compiling I think I'll give that a try. I completely forgot about fluxbox. The one I was thinking about was maybe enlightenment, but there are likely many of these things out there. On that machine I don't even boot to a login manager of any sort. So keeping things simple is great. Dan
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
Daniel Frey wrote: > On 12/1/18 8:38 PM, Dale wrote: >> It's been a while but last I used Fluxbox, it was tiny. If you just do >> a basic install, it isn't much to it. Of course, it isn't feature rich >> either but it should run well on a low powered machine or consume very >> little resources on a bigger system. I've got two fluxbox packages >> installed here. Here is some info on them. >> >> >> root@fireball / # equery s x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod >> x11-wm/fluxbox >> * x11-themes/fluxbox-styles-fluxmod-20050128-r1 >> Total files : 1539 >> Total size : 4.22 MiB >> >> * x11-wm/fluxbox-1.3.7-r3 >> Total files : 339 >> Total size : 3.89 MiB >> root@fireball / # >> >> >> I'm not sure the top one is needed. I think I installed it so I could >> tweak a few things. At one point, I thought about switching, back when >> KDE was a disaster. >> >> I'm sure others will have ideas but you may want to check into Fluxbos. >> Install time is pretty short. If you don't like it, just unmerge it. I >> keep it installed here just in case a KDE update goes sideways. >> >> Dale >> >> :-) :-) >> > > Thanks Dale! > > After the new stable 4.14.x kernel finishes compiling I think I'll > give that a try. I completely forgot about fluxbox. The one I was > thinking about was maybe enlightenment, but there are likely many of > these things out there. > > On that machine I don't even boot to a login manager of any sort. So > keeping things simple is great. > > Dan > > You may want to google to be sure but I think the command can be something like: startx Should be /usr/bin/fluxbox. That's if you want to start it manually each time. There are others ways if you want. I think the only requirement is a working video card driver, nvidia-drivers in my case. Hope you find something you like. You are right, there are a LOT of them out there. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Small (as in footprint) window manager
On 12/1/18 9:07 PM, Dale wrote: You may want to google to be sure but I think the command can be something like: startx Should be /usr/bin/fluxbox. That's if you want to start it manually each time. There are others ways if you want. I think the only requirement is a working video card driver, nvidia-drivers in my case. Hope you find something you like. You are right, there are a LOT of them out there. Dale :-) :-) I decided to follow the wiki entry for fluxbox. Simply using `exec startfluxbox` was enough to get me started. I'm currently trying a couple terminals. xterm is pretty basic, I tried eterm based on fluxbox's recommendation (but the package in gentoo doesn't have a maintainer...) and am compiling gnusteps-apps/terminal that was recommended as a decent terminal app. That one has a few dependencies, including clang, but we'll see how it performs. Fluxbox is so light that I'm considering using it on my mythtv frontends with a terminal that I haven't quite decided on yet as a backup in case I need to do troubleshooting. Dan Dan
