Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue
(Nuno Silva) wrote: > On 2018-11-18, Daniel Frey wrote: > [...] >> It's really unfortunate that on massive builds distcc is not an option. >> Maybe I should consider -bin instead. > If you do happen to have a more powerful machine running Gentoo on a > compatible architecture[1], you could also try Gentoo binary packages > (that is, not -bin, but binary packages made from www-client/firefox and > mail-client/thunderbird on that machine, either automatically with > FEATURES=buildpkg, or manually using quickpkg or emerge --buildpkg). > > [1] I guess it should also be possible to cross-compile, but that will > require additional steps, with which I am not acquainted. > > Do you know Seamonkey? If you like it and it works for everything you > use Firefox and Thunderbird with, another idea to consider would be > replacing Firefox and Thunderbird with Seamonkey Navigator and Seamonkey > Mail&News. That way, it would be "just" one massive build instead of > two. > I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both average out to about the same. For me here, about 1.5 hours. Of course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average. While genlop -t shows compile times, it doesn't average them out. It's just rough in my head quick math. ;-) I agree that Seamonkey may be a good option for Daniel. I use Seamonkey for my email and some web browsing. While the new Firefox has some advantages in some areas, Seamonkey does work well. I have both installed here. Dale :-) :-) P. S. For those who keep up with my slow upgrades. I just ordered a FX-8350 CPU and 32GBs of ram. The new Firefox with Content Process set to 4 would use all my memory and cause my system to crash, reboot actually. I had to go back to one. With the new 32GBs of ram, I hope to be able to set it to 2, 3 or maybe 4. For what I do, I think 2 would be enough. They should be here in a few days. Sort of dread putting the CPU in. Always concerned something could go sideways. :/ Old parts will go on a older mobo I have. It may turn into a server for all those hard drives I need to have. lol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 02:29:10 -0600, Dale wrote: > I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both > average out to about the same. For me here, about 1.5 hours. Of > course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average. While genlop -t > shows compile times, it doesn't average them out. It's just rough in my > head quick math. ;-) Try genlop -i or qlop -t -- Neil Bothwick Walking on water and writing software to specification is easy if they're frozen. pgpFOX24s5zaH.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 02:29:10 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both >> average out to about the same. For me here, about 1.5 hours. Of >> course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average. While genlop -t >> shows compile times, it doesn't average them out. It's just rough in my >> head quick math. ;-) > Try genlop -i or qlop -t > > I need to read the man pages every once in a while. I don't recall seeing that there last I looked. Still, it also includes when I install from a pre-built binary which takes only a few seconds or a minute or so. That throws off the average a bit. Sometimes a upgrade goes a little sideways. When doing it in my head, I ignore those. Still interesting to know about the -i option tho. Going by the output of the -i tho, Seamonkey only takes a little longer than Firefox. Of course, I've had to go back to a pre-built binary a couple times with Firefox recently. Accounting for that, I suspect they are roughly the same. Thanks for sharing the -i info. Interesting. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma sound devices
On Friday, 23 November 2018 19:28:19 GMT Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Hello list, > > > > Over the last few days I've trimmed my plasma setup - to slightly below > > the > > minimum, by which I mean that sound notification has stopped working. I > > can > > hear streamed radio, but the plasma control panel doesn't show any devices > > so I don't hear notifications. > > > > I've scanned the list of packages I removed but I can't see a likely > > suspect, and google just returns results about having no sound at all, > > which is not my case. > > > > Can anyone tell me which plasma module I need to install to hear > > notifications again? > > > > Again, the hardware and low-level drivers are fine: it's just plasma > > that's > > missing a component. > > Could you be missing Kmix? Since it controls volume/mute settings, I'd > think it would be needed, maybe anyway. Good idea, but no cigar. Mick suggested pulseaudio. I don't think it can be that because there's no sign of it in my backups; neither in world nor under /etc/portage. I'll try it though; I just need to decide whether to set the USE flag globally or just on certain packages - or just emerge pulseaudio. The global setting causes 10 rebuilds, including ffmpeg and firefox, as well as 9 new packages, so don't hold your breath. -- Regards, Peter.