Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue

2018-11-24 Thread Dale
(Nuno Silva) wrote:
> On 2018-11-18, Daniel Frey wrote:
> [...]
>> It's really unfortunate that on massive builds distcc is not an option.
>> Maybe I should consider -bin instead.
> If you do happen to have a more powerful machine running Gentoo on a
> compatible architecture[1], you could also try Gentoo binary packages
> (that is, not -bin, but binary packages made from www-client/firefox and
> mail-client/thunderbird on that machine, either automatically with
> FEATURES=buildpkg, or manually using quickpkg or emerge --buildpkg).
>
> [1] I guess it should also be possible to cross-compile, but that will
> require additional steps, with which I am not acquainted.
>
> Do you know Seamonkey? If you like it and it works for everything you
> use Firefox and Thunderbird with, another idea to consider would be
> replacing Firefox and Thunderbird with Seamonkey Navigator and Seamonkey
> Mail&News.  That way, it would be "just" one massive build instead of
> two.
>

I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both
average out to about the same.  For me here, about 1.5 hours.  Of
course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average.  While genlop -t
shows compile times, it doesn't average them out.  It's just rough in my
head quick math.  ;-)  I agree that Seamonkey may be a good option for
Daniel.

I use Seamonkey for my email and some web browsing.  While the new
Firefox has some advantages in some areas, Seamonkey does work well.  I
have both installed here. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  For those who keep up with my slow upgrades.  I just ordered a
FX-8350 CPU and 32GBs of ram.  The new Firefox with Content Process set
to 4 would use all my memory and cause my system to crash, reboot
actually.  I had to go back to one.  With the new 32GBs of ram, I hope
to be able to set it to 2, 3 or maybe 4.  For what I do, I think 2 would
be enough.  They should be here in a few days.  Sort of dread putting
the CPU in.  Always concerned something could go sideways.  :/  Old
parts will go on a older mobo I have.  It may turn into a server for all
those hard drives I need to have.  lol 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue

2018-11-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 02:29:10 -0600, Dale wrote:

> I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both
> average out to about the same.  For me here, about 1.5 hours.  Of
> course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average.  While genlop -t
> shows compile times, it doesn't average them out.  It's just rough in my
> head quick math.  ;-) 

Try genlop -i or qlop -t


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Neil Bothwick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Firefox and Thunderbird compile issue

2018-11-24 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2018 02:29:10 -0600, Dale wrote:
>
>> I looked at the build times of both Firefox and Seamonkey, they both
>> average out to about the same.  For me here, about 1.5 hours.  Of
>> course, it varies a bit but that's a rough average.  While genlop -t
>> shows compile times, it doesn't average them out.  It's just rough in my
>> head quick math.  ;-) 
> Try genlop -i or qlop -t
>
>


I need to read the man pages every once in a while.  I don't recall
seeing that there last I looked.  Still, it also includes when I install
from a pre-built binary which takes only a few seconds or a minute or
so.  That throws off the average a bit.  Sometimes a upgrade goes a
little sideways.  When doing it in my head, I ignore those.  Still
interesting to know about the -i option tho. 

Going by the output of the -i tho, Seamonkey only takes a little longer
than Firefox.  Of course, I've had to go back to a pre-built binary a
couple times with Firefox recently.  Accounting for that, I suspect they
are roughly the same. 

Thanks for sharing the -i info.  Interesting.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma sound devices

2018-11-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday, 23 November 2018 19:28:19 GMT Dale wrote:
> Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Hello list,
> > 
> > Over the last few days I've trimmed my plasma setup - to slightly below
> > the
> > minimum, by which I mean that sound notification has stopped working. I
> > can
> > hear streamed radio, but the plasma control panel doesn't show any devices
> > so I don't hear notifications.
> > 
> > I've scanned the list of packages I removed but I can't see a likely
> > suspect, and google just returns results about having no sound at all,
> > which is not my case.
> > 
> > Can anyone tell me which plasma module I need to install to hear
> > notifications again?
> > 
> > Again, the hardware and low-level drivers are fine: it's just plasma
> > that's
> > missing a component.
> 
> Could you be missing Kmix?  Since it controls volume/mute settings, I'd
> think it would be needed, maybe anyway. 

Good idea, but no cigar.

Mick suggested pulseaudio. I don't think it can be that because there's no 
sign of it in my backups; neither in world nor under /etc/portage. I'll try it 
though; I just need to decide whether to set the USE flag globally or just on 
certain packages - or just emerge pulseaudio. The global setting causes 10 
rebuilds, including ffmpeg and firefox, as well as 9 new packages, so don't 
hold your breath.

-- 
Regards,
Peter.