Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 1:43, András Csányi : > > https://www.jetbrains.com/pycharm/features/editions_comparison_matrix.html Thank you for the link. It almost completely answers my initial question. The only question that I still have about pycharm-professional is given below, after the quote from previous e-mails. > On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 at 15:41, Andrew Udvare wrote: > > > On Sep 15, 2018, at 18:31, gevisz wrote: > > > > > > In short: What is the difference between pycharm-community and > > > pycharm-professional Gentoo packages. > > > > Pretty sure one is completely free and limited in functionality and > > professional > > requires a license from JetBrains. > > > > If you have a license, install pycharm-professional. Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license number from JetBrains or something like that? On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is provided with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the professional license should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning. I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : > > On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: > > Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with profile- > sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if you use psd, but > I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your problems. I only > mention it now as another thing to check next time you have FF crashing on > you. Thank you for additional information. I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 08:19:30 BST gevisz wrote: > пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : > > On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: > > > > Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with > > profile- sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if you > > use psd, but I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your > > problems. I only mention it now as another thing to check next time you > > have FF crashing on you. > > Thank you for additional information. > > I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using > profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use > profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :) Ah! No, they are too different things. I have not read anywhere that the use of multiple user profiles causes FF to crash. Perhaps some addons may do. The use of psd on the other hand is a useful package, minimising the writing cycles of the browser's cache to disk. If your PC is running on SDD or hybrid disks and has enough RAM, then a profile-sync-daemon (when it is not buggy) should be a good thing. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional
On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 09:15, gevisz wrote: > Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package > in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license number > from JetBrains or something like that? > > On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is provided > with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the > professional license > should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary > for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning. > I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question. > It is the same package as you get from JetBrains, so you still get the 30 days trial. Cheers, Arve
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
Mick wrote: > On Sunday, 16 September 2018 08:19:30 BST gevisz wrote: >> пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : >>> On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: >>> >>> Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with >>> profile- sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if you >>> use psd, but I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your >>> problems. I only mention it now as another thing to check next time you >>> have FF crashing on you. >> Thank you for additional information. >> >> I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using >> profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use >> profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :) > Ah! No, they are too different things. > > I have not read anywhere that the use of multiple user profiles causes FF to > crash. Perhaps some addons may do. > <> I have nine Firefox profiles here. Any problems I have had have turned out to be a bad add on. Sometimes I turn off auto update and new Firefox doesn't like old add on. It is rare that I have Firefox crash. It may get slow at times but it keeps chugging along. Generally I have four or five profiles running and sometimes even more. I use different profiles for different tasks with different add ons. I've noticed that the more add ons one has, the slower it tends to get. I sort of spread them out a bit. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 10:50, Mick : > > On Sunday, 16 September 2018 08:19:30 BST gevisz wrote: > > пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : > > > On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: > > > > > > Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with > > > profile- sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if you > > > use psd, but I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your > > > problems. I only mention it now as another thing to check next time you > > > have FF crashing on you. > > > > Thank you for additional information. > > > > I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using > > profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use > > profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :) > > Ah! No, they are too different things. > > I have not read anywhere that the use of multiple user profiles causes FF to > crash. Perhaps some addons may do. Multiple profiles for the same user. > The use of psd on the other hand is a useful package, minimising the writing > cycles of the browser's cache to disk. If your PC is running on SDD or hybrid > disks and has enough RAM, then a profile-sync-daemon (when it is not buggy) > should be a good thing. Ok, thank you for the information. I still use only HDDs. So, I probably do not need psd so far.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Dale : > > Mick wrote: > > On Sunday, 16 September 2018 08:19:30 BST gevisz wrote: > >> пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : > >>> On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: > >>> > >>> Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with > >>> profile- sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if you > >>> use psd, but I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your > >>> problems. I only mention it now as another thing to check next time you > >>> have FF crashing on you. > >> Thank you for additional information. > >> > >> I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using > >> profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use > >> profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :) > > Ah! No, they are too different things. > > > > I have not read anywhere that the use of multiple user profiles causes FF to > > crash. Perhaps some addons may do. > > <> > > I have nine Firefox profiles here. Any problems I have had have turned > out to be a bad add on. Sometimes I turn off auto update and new > Firefox doesn't like old add on. Probably, you meant that problems with old add ons arise when firefox auto update is turned on. If so, I do agree. > It is rare that I have Firefox crash. Unfortunately, even a rare Firefox crash has long standing consequences. :( > It may get slow at times but it keeps chugging along. Generally I have > four or five profiles running and sometimes even more. I use different > profiles for different tasks with different add ons. I've noticed that > the more add ons one has, the slower it tends to get. I sort of spread > them out a bit. If multiple Firefox profiles do not increase the probability of its crash any more, than it is a good news because they are really useful. Anyway, I still afraid to use them so far.
Re: [gentoo-user] pycharm-community vs pycharm-professional
вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 10:57, Arve Barsnes : > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 at 09:15, gevisz wrote: > > Thank you for your reply. Does it means that pycharm-professional package > > in Gentoo will not work or will not install without providing a license > > number > > from JetBrains or something like that? > > > > On the official pycharm site, the professional version of pycharm is > > provided > > with 30-day trial period. After end of that trial period, the > > professional license > > should be bought. That let me wonder if some payment will be necessary > > for using pycharm-professional in Gentoo as well from the very beginning. > > I just have not formulated it clearly in my initial question. > > > > It is the same package as you get from JetBrains, so you still get the > 30 days trial. Ok, thank you for the information.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
On Sunday, 16 September 2018 12:32:53 BST gevisz wrote: > вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Dale : > > Mick wrote: > > > On Sunday, 16 September 2018 08:19:30 BST gevisz wrote: > > >> пт, 7 сент. 2018 г. в 19:05, Mick : > > >>> On Friday, 7 September 2018 16:32:40 BST gevisz wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Something else I came across causing FF crashes here, was a bug with > > >>> profile- sync-daemon (recent thread of mine refers). I don't know if > > >>> you > > >>> use psd, but I wasn't aware of this psd bug when you posted about your > > >>> problems. I only mention it now as another thing to check next time > > >>> you > > >>> have FF crashing on you. > > >> > > >> Thank you for additional information. > > >> > > >> I have read in this mailing list (may be it was your thread) that using > > >> profiles in firefox is another source of crashes. So, I do not use > > >> profiles, and now hope that it means that I do not use psd as well. :) > > > > > > Ah! No, they are too different things. > > > > > > I have not read anywhere that the use of multiple user profiles causes > > > FF to crash. Perhaps some addons may do. > > > <> > > > > I have nine Firefox profiles here. Any problems I have had have turned > > out to be a bad add on. Sometimes I turn off auto update and new > > Firefox doesn't like old add on. > > Probably, you meant that problems with old add ons arise when firefox > auto update is turned on. If so, I do agree. > > > It is rare that I have Firefox crash. > > Unfortunately, even a rare Firefox crash has long standing consequences. :( > > > It may get slow at times but it keeps chugging along. Generally I have > > four or five profiles running and sometimes even more. I use different > > profiles for different tasks with different add ons. I've noticed that > > the more add ons one has, the slower it tends to get. I sort of spread > > them out a bit. > > If multiple Firefox profiles do not increase the probability of its crash > any more, than it is a good news because they are really useful. > > Anyway, I still afraid to use them so far. I also have more than one profiles, with different/no addons and configurations and have not experienced any crashes on my PC. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox crashes on some www-pages on a newer Gentoo system
gevisz wrote: > вс, 16 сент. 2018 г. в 11:09, Dale : >> >> I have nine Firefox profiles here. Any problems I have had have turned >> out to be a bad add on. Sometimes I turn off auto update and new >> Firefox doesn't like old add on. > Probably, you meant that problems with old add ons arise when firefox > auto update is turned on. If so, I do agree. Well, that is sometimes why I turn auto update off on some add ons. Sometimes, since I am on a older version of Firefox, newer add ons don't work. I might add, some older add ons won't work with newer Firefox at all. Firefox disables them and works just not with the add on. Tab utilities is one of them. >> It is rare that I have Firefox crash. > Unfortunately, even a rare Firefox crash has long standing consequences. :( > I use session manager on most profiles and even if it does crash, I can go back right away. I don't recall losing anything. On some profiles, I have dozens of tabs open, sometimes close to and even over 100. >> It may get slow at times but it keeps chugging along. Generally I have >> four or five profiles running and sometimes even more. I use different >> profiles for different tasks with different add ons. I've noticed that >> the more add ons one has, the slower it tends to get. I sort of spread >> them out a bit. > If multiple Firefox profiles do not increase the probability of its crash > any more, than it is a good news because they are really useful. > > Anyway, I still afraid to use them so far. > I been using profiles for a few years with no issues. My biggest cause of problems is incompatibility of add ons when either Firefox or the add on gets updated. It may be worth checking into again. Could be that all the new coding fixed issues you had before. One thing about it, you can always remove the newer profiles and go back to the old way. Dale :-) :-)
