[gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread John Covici
Hi.  So, after two weeks, I finally got my emerge -e world finished.
Now  I was trying my regular world update with --deep, etc., but I get
an impossible situation.  It seems openrc is now blocking systemd, but
I apparently need both.

Here is the output from emerge.

 * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 * installed at the same time on the same system.

  (sys-apps/systemd-236-r1:0/2::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/systemd[pam] required by 
(sys-auth/pambase-20150213-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-209:0= required by 
(net-misc/networkmanager-1.10.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (net-fs/samba-4.7.3:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.12.2:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)

sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]
 (sys-apps/systemd:0=[abi_x86_64(-)]) required by 
(media-sound/pulseaudio-11.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (net-fs/samba-4.7.3:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-206:0/2= required by 
(gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-settings-daemon-3.24.3:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (net-vpn/libreswan-3.22:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (net-print/cups-2.2.6:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-apps/util-linux-2.31-r1:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (dev-python/python-systemd-233:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0/2= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-session-3.24.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (net-vpn/libreswan-3.22:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-186:0= required by 
(sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.45:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183:0= required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-session-3.24.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-31 required by 
(gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.24.3:2/2::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-209 required by (sys-fs/udisks-2.7.5:2/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (dev-db/postgresql-10.1:10/10::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2=[abi_x86_64(-)] required by 
(media-sound/pulseaudio-11.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-186:0/2= required by 
(sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.45:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (sys-auth/polkit-0.113-r4:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:= required by (dev-qt/qtcore-5.9.3:5/5.9::gentoo, ebuild 
scheduled for merge)
>=sys-apps/systemd-209:0/2= required by 
(net-misc/networkmanager-1.10.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-207 required by 
(sys-apps/gentoo-systemd-integration-7:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-205:0= required by (sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.166-r2:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-44:0/2= required by (x11-misc/colord-1.3.4:0/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (net-vpn/openvpn-2.4.4:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (virtual/tmpfiles-0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-183 required by 
(net-misc/modemmanager-1.6.4:0/1::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by @selected
sys-apps/systemd required by (sys-process/procps-3.3.12-r1:0/5::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (net-wireless/bluez-5.47-r1:0/3::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:= required by (net-nds/rpcbind-0.2.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (app-admin/syslog-ng-3.13.2:0/0::gentoo, 
ebuild scheduled for merge)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by 
(dev-python/python-systemd-233:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-44:0= required by (x11-misc/colord-1.3.4:0/2::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-apps/dbus-1.12.2:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-217:0 required by (virtual/udev-217:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-206:0= required by (gnome-base/gvfs-1.32.1:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
>=sys-apps/systemd-205:0/2= required by 
(sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.166-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0/2= required by (net-nds/rpcbind-0.2.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)

>=sys-apps/systemd-212-r5:0/2[abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?]
 (>=sys-apps/systemd-212-r5:0/2[abi_x86_32(-),abi_x86_64(-)]) required by 
(virtual/libudev-232:0/1::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/systemd:0= required by (sys-auth/polkit-0.113-r4:0/0::gentoo, 
installed)
sys-apps/systemd required by (x11-base/xorg-server-1.19.5:0/1.19.5::gentoo, 
installed)

  (sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r9:0/0::gentoo, inst

Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Helmut Jarausch

On 12/22/2017 11:02:14 AM, John Covici wrote:

Hi.  So, after two weeks, I finally got my emerge -e world finished.
Now  I was trying my regular world update with --deep, etc., but I get
an impossible situation.  It seems openrc is now blocking systemd, but
I apparently need both.



I've noticed this, as well.
I think this is due to a change in a USE flag for systemd (+sysv-utils).
Therefore, I have added
sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils

to /etc/portage/package.use

With this, both, openrc and systemd build just fine.

My init system is openrc, and with this all seems to work just fine.

Helmut



Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 5:02 AM, John Covici  wrote:
> Hi.  So, after two weeks, I finally got my emerge -e world finished.
> Now  I was trying my regular world update with --deep, etc., but I get
> an impossible situation.  It seems openrc is now blocking systemd, but
> I apparently need both.

sys-apps/openrc is probably in your world file. Either remove it, or
disable the "sysv-utils" USE flag on sys-apps/systemd.



Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 06:25:56 -0500,
Mike Gilbert wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 5:02 AM, John Covici  wrote:
> > Hi.  So, after two weeks, I finally got my emerge -e world finished.
> > Now  I was trying my regular world update with --deep, etc., but I get
> > an impossible situation.  It seems openrc is now blocking systemd, but
> > I apparently need both.
> 
> sys-apps/openrc is probably in your world file. Either remove it, or
> disable the "sysv-utils" USE flag on sys-apps/systemd.
> 

Thanks everyone, I will check this out and let people know if it
works.

Yep, putting -sysv-utils for systemd fixes things right up!  I hope
there is no strange consequences by disabling this flag, but we shall
see.

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Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 9:37 AM, John Covici  wrote:
>
> Yep, putting -sysv-utils for systemd fixes things right up!  I hope
> there is no strange consequences by disabling this flag, but we shall
> see.
>

None that I've seen.  Systemd has always been backwards-compatible
with the sysvinit shutdown/reboot/etc tools.  I don't think they have
any plans to change that.

-- 
Rich



Re: [gentoo-user] What can cause printer to crop top of page?

2017-12-22 Thread Mick
On Thursday, 21 December 2017 23:20:24 GMT you wrote:
> On Thursday, 21 December 2017 23:01:50 GMT Walter Dnes wrote:
> >   Is there a default page size setting in your desktop environment that
> > 
> > could've changed?
> 
> This problem is happening across different PCs, desktops/DEs and different
> applications.  The common factor is they are all using CUPS, the same
> brother driver and the default page size of A4.
> 
> I'll have another poke tomorrow into the http GUI of the printer and then
> try to print with MSWindows to see what happens.

MSWindows prints fine, just as Linux used to until recently.  I printed a 
portrait layout from Firefox on both MSWindows and Linux.

In MSWindows, the Shrink-to-fit setting made the page fit into the A4 paper, 
perfectly.

In Linux, the top of the page is cropped, the bottom stops short by an 
equivalent height and the sides are wider.  It's as if the page is both 
misaligned vertically and not shrunk-to-fit.

This tells me there's nothing wrong with the printer - half a problem solved!

I still can't explain why the Linux cups and brother driver started 
misbehaving, just because I happened to recompile them with gcc-6.4.0.

I'm also not sure what I could tweak to restore the Linux driver's behaviour 
to what it should be.

Any ideas how I could calibrate the paper size in the Linux driver to align 
with the physical dimensions of A4?  The ppd file and its measurements look 
correct to me, but as you may have figured out, I'm no printing expert ...

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Mick

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[gentoo-user] Re: after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2017-12-22 11:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils
> 
> to /etc/portage/package.use
> 
> With this, both, openrc and systemd build just fine.
> 
> My init system is openrc, and with this all seems to work just fine.

Would you mind explaining why you need systemd installed?  (100% real
question, no intention to start another ember-war).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread John Covici
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:42:16 -0500,
Ian Zimmerman wrote:
> 
> On 2017-12-22 11:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> 
> > sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils
> > 
> > to /etc/portage/package.use
> > 
> > With this, both, openrc and systemd build just fine.
> > 
> > My init system is openrc, and with this all seems to work just fine.
> 
> Would you mind explaining why you need systemd installed?  (100% real
> question, no intention to start another ember-war).
I use gnome and that is why.  I have also found some of what systemd
does useful, strange as that may seem, but I don't want to start the
great debate!

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How do
you spend it?

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 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

2017-12-22 Thread Adam Carter
>
> sys-apps/openrc is probably in your world file. Either remove it, or
> disable the "sysv-utils" USE flag on sys-apps/systemd.
>
> I'd like to trying going the other way. so i'll first;
quickpkg sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc sys-apps/sysvinit

But virtual/service-manager is using openrc. How do i point this to systemd?

Then i guess I  would just;
emerge --depclean sys-apps/openrc net-misc/netifrc sys-apps/sysvinit
emerge -N systemd

Right?