[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] LC_ALL etc. not set when sshing into TMux
On Thursday, 30. Jun 2016, 21:11:14 +0200, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
> [...] TMux [...], when I want
> to ssh into it I get the following message:
>
> $ ssh -t gentoohost tmux attach
> tmux: need UTF-8 locale (LC_CTYPE) but have ANSI_X3.4-1968
> Connection to gentoohost.mydomain.local closed.
>
> To find out what locale is set I wrote this little C
> program:
>
> int main(int argc, char **argv, char **env)
> {
> char **e;
> for (e = env; *e != 0; e++)
> printf( "%s\n", *e);
> return 0;
> }
>
> Then, after compiling,
>
> $ ssh -t gentoohost ./showenv | grep '^LC\|^LANG'
>
> this yields the empty result indeed. Therefore I guess
> TMux's behaviour is correct and the mistake is done by some
> ssh or login or whatsoever.
>
> The top (grandparent) sshd process has LC_ALL and LANG set
> with utf8, but the childs and grandchilds environments are
> empty.
I got hit by this yet another time when I tried to find out
why TMux's "mode-keys" option doesn't get set to "vi". This
depends on the EDITOR environment variable that is left
empty as well.
The solution is to set the environment variables by
"pam_env" which is called in "/etc/pam.d/sshd".
/etc/pam.d/included_by_ssh-
session requiredpam_env.so
Append the following lines to the pam_env configuration:
/etc/security/pam_env.conf
PAGER DEFAULT=less
EDITOR DEFAULT=vim
LANGDEFAULT=de_DE.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE DEFAULT=C
Bertram
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Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
Neil Bothwick schrieb:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:54:37 +0200, hw wrote:
emerge -a portage --newuse --update
That tries to updates deps too, try this
emerge -1a portage
or even, if that still fails
emerge -1a --nodeps portage
emerge -1a portage
[...]
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/install-xattr-0.5
[ebuild N ] dev-python/packaging-15.3-r2 USE="{-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/setuptools-18.4 USE="{-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7
python3_4 (-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/certifi-2015.11.20 PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4
(-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pyxattr-0.5.5 USE="-doc {-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.28 [2.2.14] USE="xattr*"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4* -python3_3* (-python3_5)"
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
sys-apps/portage:0
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage (Argument)
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)]
required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
So portage cannot be installed because portage is installed?
When I use --nodeps, portage might not work at all anymore and I would be
totally screwed. And 'emerge -1a --newuse --update portage' gives the
same result.
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
Michael Orlitzky schrieb: On 08/10/2016 06:54 AM, hw wrote: Hi, I´m trying to upgrade portage because I´m getting a message that it needs to be able to work with EAPI 6 packages and can only do EAPI 5. I´m running into merge conflicts when trying to update portage, and apparently one of the packages (dev-python/cryptography) I could try to update first to be able to update portage requires a version of portage that can handle EAPI 6 packages. Try the other suggestions first -- but as a last resort -- you can always grab a new stage3 that should contain an updated version of portage and simply overwrite the portage files on your machine. A quickpkg from another Gentoo machine (or the liveCD?) would also work. I´m trying to update a production server here. If I overwrite the whole system, who knows what might break. I can take it down for a few hours in the evening unless I want to work over night, which is not really an option. There must be a way to update a Gentoo installation without breaking it. As wonderful as it otherwise is, updating Gentoo is always a nightmare which makes me very seriously consider not to use it anymore. Updating needs to be easy and flawless and not something you always run into weird issues with. Did they recently make a new liveDVD?
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:16:25 +0200, hw wrote: > sys-apps/portage:0 > >(sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) > pulled in by sys-apps/portage (Argument) > >(sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)] > required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) > > > So portage cannot be installed because portage is installed? Rather it looks like portage can't be updated because of the version of gentoolkit that is installed. Try uninstalling gentoolkit, updating portage and then reinstalling gentoolkit. It may also help to know the USE flags used for gentoolkit and the *current* portage install. -- Neil Bothwick He who asks a question is a fool for a minute, He who doesn't ask is a fool for a lifetime. pgpyivonNo1MD.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
Is it perhaps an idea to mask the gentoolkit package when updating portage? On 12-08-16 14:42, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:16:25 +0200, hw wrote: sys-apps/portage:0 (sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by sys-apps/portage (Argument) (sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)] required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) So portage cannot be installed because portage is installed? Rather it looks like portage can't be updated because of the version of gentoolkit that is installed. Try uninstalling gentoolkit, updating portage and then reinstalling gentoolkit. It may also help to know the USE flags used for gentoolkit and the *current* portage install.
Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber
On 08/11/2016 07:48 AM, Douglas J Hunley wrote:
On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:51 AM, james mailto:gar...@verizon.net>> wrote:
Douglas did manage to pull his own bacon from the fire, in the end
of his article, but it wreaks of vendor hyperbole, imho.
Again, not the author
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IFF I made a logical sequence attachment error {a boo_boo}::
1K apologies
IFF I bruised your ego::
1M apologies
IFF I insulted your pride::
1G apologies
IFelse
My goal was to clear up common ignorance of where the ACID properties
came from::
Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering
==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes.
OK? That's my thesis and conclusion:: sprinkle with apologies as
necessary. I do knowledge that DataBase (weeny) vendors are the
Microsoft of Robustness and Reliability, espoused by the current state
of affairs in transaction processes, which is now a staple of modern
computations, much like MicroSoft made computers so idiots can
participate too. No arguments therein.
BUT, I take the time to 'educate' folks for a very important reason::
Distributed and parallel processing, now entering it's
fourth/fifth/sixth/ rendition, offers up fundamental
mathematically based constructs, that can be realized in
(electronic)hardware or Software
or both, to build 'systems' that far exceed the robustness of ACID
properties currently found in a current database scheme. Furthermore,
whores like Oracle, need to be retired from the computational landscape,
as they are the robber barrons of yore and we just do not need them any
more. I.E. learn the basics and implement new constructs
in distributed and parallel schemes (aka the cluster).
Fundamental and sound and proven principals of mathematics and EE
provide solutions for many 'degrees of freedom' for more robust
solutions than the Vendor hyperbole of Database vendors. And yes, your
favorite University, and Wiki*, have failed to accurately document this;
nothing I can do about that but share, as I am doing here.
OK? So, the interested can do their own research, and others can trudge
along their merry way. (The apologies are sincere, but, I am a bit
crass:: no apologies on that note).
hth,
James
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
PS: Sorry, I tried it in a container. Here´s what I get on the host:
emerge -1a portage
[...]
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/install-xattr-0.5
[ebuild N ] dev-python/packaging-15.3-r2 USE="{-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild U ] dev-python/setuptools-18.4 [7.0] PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4*
-python3_3* (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/certifi-2015.11.20 PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4
(-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pyxattr-0.5.5 USE="-doc {-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.28 [2.2.14] USE="xattr*"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4* -python3_3* (-python3_5)"
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
dev-python/setuptools:0
(dev-python/setuptools-18.4:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled
in by
dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_pypy3(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,python_targets_python3_5(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-)]
required by (dev-python/certifi-2015.11.20:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for
merge)
dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,python_targets_python3_5(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-)]
required by (dev-python/pyxattr-0.5.5:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge)
(dev-python/setuptools-7.0:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-)]
required by (dev-python/cryptography-0.6.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
dev-python/setuptools[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_pypy3(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_pypy3(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)]
required by (dev-python/chardet-2.2.1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/portage:0
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage (Argument)
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)]
required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-)]
required by (app-admin/webapp-config-1.52-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
Neil Bothwick schrieb:
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 12:54:37 +0200, hw wrote:
emerge -a portage --newuse --update
That tries to updates deps too, try this
emerge -1a portage
or even, if that still fails
emerge -1a --nodeps portage
emerge -1a portage
[...]
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] sys-apps/install-xattr-0.5
[ebuild N ] dev-python/packaging-15.3-r2 USE="{-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/setuptools-18.4 USE="{-test}" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7
python3_4 (-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/certifi-2015.11.20 PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4
(-pypy) (-pypy3) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild N ] dev-python/pyxattr-0.5.5 USE="-doc {-test}"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_4 (-pypy) -python3_3 (-python3_5)"
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-2.2.28 [2.2.14] USE="xattr*"
PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_4* -python3_3* (-python3_5)"
!!! Multiple package instances within a single package slot have been pulled
!!! into the dependency graph, resulting in a slot conflict:
sys-apps/portage:0
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage (Argument)
(sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_sin
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
On 08/12/2016 08:26 AM, hw wrote: >> >> Try the other suggestions first -- but as a last resort -- you can >> always grab a new stage3 that should contain an updated version of >> portage and simply overwrite the portage files on your machine. A >> quickpkg from another Gentoo machine (or the liveCD?) would also work. >> > > I´m trying to update a production server here. If I overwrite the whole > system, who knows what might break. I can take it down for a few > hours in the evening unless I want to work over night, which is not > really an option. > Not the whole system, only portage. It should still be your last resort, but on the bad-idea scale it's only a 1 or a 2.
Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: > Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering > ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. The study of anything is really the study of war.
Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:13 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: >> Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering >> ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. > > The study of anything is really the study of war. Readers will find it amusing that Machiavelli's writings included convenient descriptions of pike-and-shot formations as "ASCII" art.
[gentoo-user] Re: Choice of MUA
On 2016-08-11, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 10 Aug 2016 15:21:54 Philip Webb wrote: >> 160810 Peter Humphrey wrote: >> > I've been using KMail for many years. It suits me in many ways, >> > the most important being that I don't need to keep switching my hands >> > between mouse and keyboard. >> >> If that's your criterion, why not try Mutt ? >> I've been using it for c 20 years & have never wanted anything else. > > How does it display HTML in messages? I have it set to run them through lynx (or links, or w3m, I forget) by default and display the results in the normal pager. If I hit "p" it uses Firefox. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Maybe I should have at asked for my Neutron Bomb gmail.comin PAISLEY --
Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber
On 08/12/2016 09:15 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:13 AM, R0b0t1 wrote: On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 8:00 AM, james wrote: Mathematics ==>Electro-Mechanical Engineering ==>Electronics Engineering ==>DataBase Weenies ==>(accounting)Codes. The study of anything is really the study of war. Readers will find it amusing that Machiavelli's writings included convenient descriptions of pike-and-shot formations as "ASCII" art. Plausible, but consider some perspective on Mac:: A medical professor once asked her class to submit a one paragraph thesis on how Machiavelli works affected modern medicine. When the youngest member of the class (quite young actually) Espoused that most acknowledge that Mac was very ill, later in life, His Thesis was that that (catastrophic) illness actually had consumed Mac much earlier in life and therefore, the study and reading of MAC, was more attributable to a manifestation of 'societal sickness', rather than a learned pursuit of that which is worthy of pursuit. He receive a low mark in that class, but truth is truth, especially in the eyes of the author, a brilliant truth most often. There is an ironic posting in Hacker Mews about the lack of credibility amongst their customers, when focused on modern psychiatry, you just might find in interesting. All other forms of modern medicine receive quite high marks, from their customers. caveat emptor, James
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
On 08/12/2016 07:26 AM, hw wrote: Michael Orlitzky schrieb: On 08/10/2016 06:54 AM, hw wrote: Hi, I´m trying to upgrade portage because I´m getting a message that it needs to be able to work with EAPI 6 packages and can only do EAPI 5. I´m running into merge conflicts when trying to update portage, and apparently one of the packages (dev-python/cryptography) I could try to update first to be able to update portage requires a version of portage that can handle EAPI 6 packages. Try the other suggestions first -- but as a last resort -- you can always grab a new stage3 that should contain an updated version of portage and simply overwrite the portage files on your machine. A quickpkg from another Gentoo machine (or the liveCD?) would also work. I´m trying to update a production server here. If I overwrite the whole system, who knows what might break. I can take it down for a few hours in the evening unless I want to work over night, which is not really an option. There must be a way to update a Gentoo installation without breaking it. As wonderful as it otherwise is, updating Gentoo is always a nightmare which makes me very seriously consider not to use it anymore. Updating needs to be easy and flawless and not something you always run into weird issues with. When I run gentoo as a critical server, I always have a second, redundant system pretty much identical, on stanby. I upgrade the stanby first and run it a few days, then the production system. It makes reliability extraordinarily high. But, the again, I do a version of the same thing with all critical systems, or I do not work on them. Granted, as successful consultant, I have that luxury. Did they recently make a new liveDVD? A few months ago. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:RelEng/LiveDVD/20160514 Perhaps a better solution is to make a stage-4, of your current gentoo (production) system, verify that the stage-4 works by using it to install a similar system, test and deploy. And then hack or fix the production system, during the daytime, at your leisure? Stage-4 gentoo systems have been around a long time. Documentation varies and most have their own 'home spun' approach to stage-4 replicant systems, backups etc etc. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/12/2016 08:44 AM, Jeroen Mathon wrote: > Is it perhaps an idea to mask the gentoolkit package when updating portage? Since that version of gentoolkit doesn't depend on a specific version of portage but does depend on portage with the same python_targets use flags, I think the problem is that you're trying to emerge portage and gentoolkit with different python_target_XXX flags, So just make sure they're the same. > On 12-08-16 14:42, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 14:16:25 +0200, hw wrote: >> >>> sys-apps/portage:0 >>> >>> (sys-apps/portage-2.2.28:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) >>> pulled in by sys-apps/portage (Argument) >>> >>> (sys-apps/portage-2.2.14:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by >>> >>> sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_3(-)?,python_targets_python3_4(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_3(-),-python_single_target_python3_4(-)] >>> required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.3.0.9-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed) >>> >>> >>> So portage cannot be installed because portage is installed? >> Rather it looks like portage can't be updated because of the version of >> gentoolkit that is installed. Try uninstalling gentoolkit, updating >> portage and then reinstalling gentoolkit. >> >> It may also help to know the USE flags used for gentoolkit and the >> *current* portage install. >> >> > > - -- Fernando Rodriguez -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXri1wAAoJEPbOFX/5Ulwczi0P/1bcpxZs0atjCHKxi17OMbB/ TXhWEibey7ukIMBzXuWJREUURfKlWWnQDrz+b8pW7S9oMMpHSb9ClXWvsItgdojg D6J+akRmkNqnwvfAwdKf8vX03LFrWP/SB8wbdZt/boXyXW6qvrVjjl4dfSITTA2C e7eYrNhx6n120phQxFjQlzZjrZuX6BjmfxT+yOmdkYFsy0lOOQtsJPRBgMSmXj2w 9gz03V7zYs8D59R72HWZm97SINRDSwJ6BII3JiGP+gpWDzjxqv12Pr5qgU2K4F9M 09m53gNZrGk7Cm1MFaqcaI8d+dhvCLOk7ZsFl7rZBhS6DYonrWku1XGc65EGnH85 Ab9qeIIlNrKJ8z45HM8rOYxH2Nn+e/FWCpF90yxr/B6ZIqv3E2xotwFU7f8Ebw4b GekYFTIwwH88SNnWwCgimWXC0M4hSzICz3f2AfnIaYJYF3rMshJ8EWpDGugXweWO 1BEaWvJkhsUpHWa2dKYNvOkUUDGn35N50rI7FUAiK7xIQcY33kw1BQD9FfY4eR/B eQQOPOiVYIG/52UUqOsOCQixQJg0OWpvWGokOgghYIrabIs7F8CmjH4ES3cUk/4W xE93vflWWOuFVm09xUzfobpqR1ikVb0sfyNS3CXrseEFb56TeylIWku2tx2Bly2g umtuSGZ5+gFsPgyII8uC =Pcvt -END PGP SIGNATURE-
