Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Klos
Op maandag 8 juni 2015 14:40:28 schreef Andrew Lowe:
> On 06/08/2015 02:23 AM, Daniel Frey wrote:
> > On 06/07/2015 10:30 AM, Paul Klos wrote:
> >> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 10:17:24 schreef Daniel Frey:
> >>> On 06/07/2015 08:10 AM, Andrew Lowe wrote:
>  Same here.
> >>> 
> >>> Can't seem to reply to myself, just posting back the nepomuk USE-flag
> >>> did indeed fix it.
> >>> 
> >>> Dan
> >> 
> >> Interesting, I have indeed still enabled the nepomuk USE flag on kdelibs.
> > 
> > I'm curious to know why nepomuk is marked deprecated when it's still in
> > use. It doesn't appear there's a replacement for this functionality.
> > 
> > Dan
> 
>   Interesting observation. Long story way, but I hate the whole
> nepomuk/akonadi stuff and disable it where I can. Looking at kdelibs
> shows that, yes it is disabled. This just begs the question, why is the
> ability to show two thumbnails side by side dependant on a file indexer?
> 
>   As to nepomuk being deprecated,, according to its website:
> 
> https://userbase.kde.org/Nepomuk
> 
> it's on the way out and something called Baloo in the new greatest
> thing/debacle since sliced bread.
> 
>   I might have a look at kdelibs as to why there is this dependency, but
> it looks like I'm going to have to live without my preview pictures
> 
>   Thanks to all who offered ideas etc,
>   Andrew

I recently deleted the complete nepomuk cache from my kde profile. The files 
hadn't been touched since November last year. I have had the nepomuk USE flag 
enabled for a long time, and I hadn't even noticed that the nefarious nepomuk 
implementation had been replaced with Baloo.

Baloo seems to do what you might expect from a file indexer: it runs in the 
background and silently indexes you files. You wouldn't even know it's there. 
Actually I *didn't* notice it was there :-).

I think the nepomuk use flag has become a bit of a misnomer by now, because 
there is no more actual "nepomuk" to pull in.

Maybe it's worth a try to enable it again, and enjoy these pretty previews.

Paul



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-08 Thread Dale
Paul Klos wrote:
> Op zondag 7 juni 2015 08:02:04 schreef Dale:
>> Andrew Lowe wrote:
>>> On 06/07/2015 08:24 PM, Mick wrote:
 From what I recall, in a full KDE desktop you will see previews only if 
 you 
 have clicked on View/Previews to enable it.  This will create loads of 
 thumbnails of various files so that the preview can show these.

 Have you tried this?

>>> No I haven't. I've just tried, but I can't find what you're actually
>>> referring to. Is "View/Preview" a system setting somewhere, an
>>> application setting or you can't remember the actual title and it could
>>> be view or preview???
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion,
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>>
>> In Konqueror, Settings up top, Configure Konqueror.  In the new window,
>> expand File Management, click General then click the tab Previews.  I
>> have videos, images etc checked here.  I can see previews of the files
>> while navigating around so I knew this was set already, but checked to
>> make sure there wasn't something new here.
>>
>> You're not alone tho.  I have the same as you.  Weird. 
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-) 
>>
>>
> Well, nothing substantial comes to mind, but I have a few 
> suggestions/questions to investigate.
>
> Have you tried with another, or a new, user?
>
> Do you use a custom theme? If so, you could switch it back and see if that 
> makes any difference/
>
> Is your disk full?
>
> Are both directories local, or are you copying to or from a remote directory?
>
> Paul
>
>


It appears that changing the kdelibs USE flags fixed this.  I would
never have guessed that the USE flag was needed. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Copying/Moving a file in KDE - is the preview missing

2015-06-08 Thread Dale
Daniel Frey wrote:
> Hi all, I may have a solution for you. I noticed this behaviour some
> time back, except I had two workstations - one worked, and one didn't.
> So I went to compare the two machines (which took a very long time)
> and discovered kdelibs is built differently on the one that shows the
> previews. It appears the default USE flags do not enable this
> functionality. That overwrite dialog is in kdelibs and it looks like
> it depends on nepomuk (semantic desktop support) that is marked
> deprecated. I enabled a few use flags trying to correct the problem,
> but I'm pretty sure it's the nepomuk USE flag that fixed it. # emerge
> -pv kdelibs [ebuild R ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.14.3-r1:4/4.14::gentoo
> USE="acl alsa bzip2 crypt fam handbook jpeg2k lzma nepomuk nls openexr
> opengl (policykit) spell ssl udev udisks upower zeroconf (-altivec)
> (-aqua) -debug -doc -kerberos {-test}" CPU_FLAGS_X86="mmx sse sse2
> -3dnow" 0 KiB This appears to pull: [IP-] [ ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14 [IP-] [ ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-widgets-4.14.3:4/4.14 in to be built, and
> nepomuk-core has a ffmpeg dependency: [ebuild R ]
> kde-base/nepomuk-core-4.14.3:4/4.14::gentoo USE="exif ffmpeg migrator
> pdf (-aqua) -debug -epub -taglib" 0 KiB I'm currently building kdelibs
> with the nepomuk USE-flag on my other PC (the one that does not work),
> will report back if it's successful. Dan 

This worked for me.  All this time I thought it was a bug or something. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: is your metadata safe?

2015-06-08 Thread Bruce Hill
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:09:30AM +, James wrote:
> Bruce Hill  happypenguincomputers.com> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not
> > sure about the former."
> 
> 
> Your probably looking in the mirror too much. 

I *do*, sir. The comment is about those in government, not you.



[gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-06-08 Thread Marc Joliet
Hi list,

As part of removing now superfluous server functionality on my desktop, I
replaced postfix with msmtp (and removed a bunch of other software).  However,
the portage default for virtual/mta is nullmailer.  (I also switched my laptop
from ssmtp to msmtp since ssmtp upstream has long been dead and has thus fallen
out of favour with Gentoo devs [0].)

Now, my reasoning for choosing msmtp was that development seemed more active.
The last release of nullmailer was in 2013, while msmtp has had a release or
two this year already.  However, the nullmailer repository [1] has shown a bit
of activity since the last release, though it looks fairly minor to me.

However, the one thing that annoys me is that msmtp does not seem to have any
sort of queue [2], so if it can't deliver an email, it must be resent, which is
annoying for system emails.  Now, I read that nullmailer has a queue (at both
[2] and [3]).

So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp (or neither?),
and why?  Is there anything that speaks against nullmailer, other than its
(seemingly) slow development?

[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450812
[1] https://github.com/bruceg/nullmailer/commits/master
[2] http://sourceforge.net/p/msmtp/mailman/message/649420/
[3] http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer/

-- 
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[gentoo-user] Open-sourced: OpenCL-based multiphysics simulation software package

2015-06-08 Thread Zeev Pekar
Dear Gentoo user/developer community,

we would like to announce the recent open-source release of our
GPU-enabled multiphysics software - Advanced Simulation Library.
http://asl.org.il/

Here are some remarkable benchmarks:
http://asl.org.il/benchmarks/multicomponent_flow/

If possible, please create a Gentoo package for ASL and send me an URL
where we could make our contributions to the packaging efforts.

Thank you,
Zeev

ps: Please, "like" us on Facebook, if you find ASL cool:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Avtech-Scientific/828973737156105




Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-08 Thread Zhu Sha Zang

On 06/07/2015 03:46 PM, Philip Webb wrote:

150607 Mick wrote:

On Sunday 07 Jun 2015 18:57:58 Philip Webb wrote:

Yesterday, I updated to the now stable Fluxbox 1.3.7-r1 ;
there have been no changes in my config files.

Same here.

Normally, I have the toolbar (the panel at the bottom of the screen)
hidden & make it visible by dropping the mouse down there ;
I also have Fbpager running to its left, similarly hidden & revealed.

My toolbar is set to be visible and I have no Fbpager.

So your experience is not directly relevant.


Since the update, the pager & toolbar remain hidden,
even when I move the mouse down there, but when the mouse is over the
pager, the toolbar appears in a flickering form.  It becomes a solid
image when I move the mouse to the right & remains till I move the mouse
away. However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden
always.

I am guessing that the problem is with Fbpager.
Do you still have the problem if you remove Fbpager?

Please read what I wrote (smile) !
"However, if the pager is not running, the toolbar remains hidden always" :
that is not the expected behaviour, ie what I get with 1.3.6-r1 ,
when moving the mouse over the toolbar area makes it appear.


Something I noticed is that the toolbar will not show if hidden,
until I move the cursor 1-2 inches or more from its right edge.
I have a clock on the right hand side and need to come left well beyond it
and into the application tabs area for the toolbar to show up.

That shouldn't be happening : it doesn't happen for me with 1.3.6-r1 .


In any other position the cursor brings the toolbar up as expected.
Now, if your Fbpager is where my clock happens to be
-- the right hand edge of the toolbar --
then we have come across the same bug.

It's to the left (please read what I wrote above)
& you are experiencing part of what's gone wrong with 1.3.7 ,
but not all of it :


However, there is no flickering here :
the toolbar either shows up or does not.  So the flickering
could be related to the canvas of the Fbpager being refreshed.

It's caused somehow by the presence of the pager.


I emerged 1.3.7 , which showed the same bug.
However, having restored 1.3.6-r1 , which I used before yesterday,
the bug has disappeared & the pager + the toolbar work as they should.
The configuration has remained the same thro'out these tests.
Before I file a bug, has anyone else seen this ?  Any advice ?
Are there any other Fluxbox users on the list ?

PS I only use Fluxbox as a fall back when Enlightenment does not work.
Perhaps you should give e19 a spin, now that it is in the main tree.
Configure your favourite apps to show up when you right click on the desktop
and you should be pretty much at home with it.

I've been a contented user of Fluxbox for some years,
so I hope I don't have to drop it.

It looks like a bug report is needed.  The Fluxbox WWW site warns
that 1.3.7 was released after  2 yr  break & may need lots of testing.


Have you tried to use something like:

exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log" to check what happening?

??

Regards



[gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger

"interesting" issue on my desktop machine:

when booted with gentoo the keyboard seems to fall "asleep" in a way

It happens repeatedly that the first key pressed does not get detected,
only the second.

For example at login:

login: oot

;)

if I keep typing it keeps working ... and this is *not* in Gnome alone
but on the plain console as well.

The same hardware booted with Fedora: no issues.

Does anyone have an idea about that?



[gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread James
Franz Fellner  gmail.com> writes:

> 
> James wrote:

> > There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
> > for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
> > with an air compressor.
> 
> If you really blow out your laptop make sure the fans are fixed. If they
> start turning while you blow into them they really can destroy your hardware.
> Induction can be really bad ;)


If it does not have "diodes" in the circuits for power elements, shunting
excess (reverse) power to ground, it's a piece of crap and would most likely
die in a few years. It's pretty much routine engineering.

But yes, fans should only get a short burst of air at a time to avoid
overspin and mechanical failure. Some may need to be replaced with
better quality components. Most are metric, so just look online at diagrams,
measure and replace as necessary. Most good computer shops
will have an abundance of new fans they have gotten in kits that are
not being used. If you do not hire the shop to replace, but just 
purchase the fans locally (used) there usually a few bucks in a technicians
pocket...


hth,
James






Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/08/2015 08:01 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> 
> "interesting" issue on my desktop machine:
> 
> when booted with gentoo the keyboard seems to fall "asleep" in a way
> 
> It happens repeatedly that the first key pressed does not get detected,
> only the second.
> 
> For example at login:
> 
> login: oot
> 
> ;)
> 
> if I keep typing it keeps working ... and this is *not* in Gnome alone
> but on the plain console as well.
> 
> The same hardware booted with Fedora: no issues.
> 
> Does anyone have an idea about that?
> 
> 
Any chance this is a Logitech K520r wireless keyboard? I have one of
these and it at times "goes to sleep" for several seconds. Logitech know
about the problem but refuse to do anything. A google search will reveal
all the gory details. If on the other hand it isn't, sorry, got nothing
to offer.

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-06-08 Thread Guy-Laurent Subri

Hi, I like to use msmtp. I actually never tried nullmailer, but msmtp
seemd a great choice. For the queue "issue" I can redirect you to a
document created by a Gentoo dev on mutt [0].

Guy-Laurent Subri

[0] https://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/mail.html
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote:

Hi list,

As part of removing now superfluous server functionality on my desktop, I
replaced postfix with msmtp (and removed a bunch of other software).  However,
the portage default for virtual/mta is nullmailer.  (I also switched my laptop
from ssmtp to msmtp since ssmtp upstream has long been dead and has thus fallen
out of favour with Gentoo devs [0].)

Now, my reasoning for choosing msmtp was that development seemed more active.
The last release of nullmailer was in 2013, while msmtp has had a release or
two this year already.  However, the nullmailer repository [1] has shown a bit
of activity since the last release, though it looks fairly minor to me.

However, the one thing that annoys me is that msmtp does not seem to have any
sort of queue [2], so if it can't deliver an email, it must be resent, which is
annoying for system emails.  Now, I read that nullmailer has a queue (at both
[2] and [3]).

So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp (or neither?),
and why?  Is there anything that speaks against nullmailer, other than its
(seemingly) slow development?

[0] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450812
[1] https://github.com/bruceg/nullmailer/commits/master
[2] http://sourceforge.net/p/msmtp/mailman/message/649420/
[3] http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/nullmailer/

--
Marc Joliet
--
"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup






Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2015-06-08 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew Lowe:

>   Any chance this is a Logitech K520r wireless keyboard? I have one of
> these and it at times "goes to sleep" for several seconds. Logitech know
> about the problem but refuse to do anything. A google search will reveal
> all the gory details. If on the other hand it isn't, sorry, got nothing
> to offer.

No, it's wired keyboard by Lenovo: SK-8815

And, by the way, kernel 4.0.5 ... I cross-checked with 4.0.1 and 4.0.4
... same issue (maybe also the same problematic setting somewhere)

thanks, S




[gentoo-user] Re: some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread James
Stefan G. Weichinger  xunil.at> writes:


> "interesting" issue on my desktop machine:
> when booted with gentoo the keyboard seems to fall "asleep" in a way
> 
> It happens repeatedly that the first key pressed does not get detected,
> only the second.

I have always used a "double tap' on the space bar to wake machines.


> if I keep typing it keeps working ... and this is *not* in Gnome alone
> but on the plain console as well.
> The same hardware booted with Fedora: no issues.
> Does anyone have an idea about that?


I can confirm your experience. It seems to be getting worse and I run lxde
for a minimized desktop. I recently have explore ways to manually flush
the cache and memory. It helps, but sometimes I have to reboot the machine.
I am not sure what is at the root of this "deep sleep" on my gentoo machine
either. I suspect the kernel, but it's  only a guess. There is lots to
tune these days, if you have time to read upon things.


hth,
James





[gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread James
OK,

So I just ran across this word "emeried" and I can only find emory.
I think "emeried" is obscure in both meaning and usage. Where do
I find help? It may not be an actual word, or one of those rare "middle
english or french vesticals of a word?

Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
but there is not a "spellchecker" function to fix the mistakes,
so what am I missing in seamonkey ( I run lxde, if that matters).
If it's an addon I need, suggests as to the best (most complete)
usa english would be welcome information. An unabridged english
dictionary, even if from the right side of the pond, would be keen
to integrate into seamonkey.

Q? (if my memory is correct?)


James




[gentoo-user] Re: msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-06-08 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-06-08, Marc Joliet  wrote:

> However, the one thing that annoys me is that msmtp does not seem to have any
> sort of queue [2], so if it can't deliver an email, it must be resent, which 
> is
> annoying for system emails.

I've been using msmtp for many years, and I find I don't miss having
an outbout mail queue.  It turns out I just don't send e-mail when
"offline".  If I do try to send mail, and it fails, I actually like
knowing about it imediately rather than finding out three days later
that something's broken and nothing I've sent out in the past few days
has actually been sent. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Stroller

On Mon, 8 June 2015, at 2:25 pm, James  wrote:
> ...
> So I just ran across this word "emeried" and I can only find emory.
> I think "emeried" is obscure in both meaning and usage. 

My 1970's copy of the 24-volume Oxford English Dictionary says that emery as a 
verb is to rub with emery (e.g. emery paper, I guess).

So I guess an example sentence would be "before the panel can be repainted, it 
must be emeried until all traces of the paint have been removed."

I agree this is obscure - I had to look it up, and my Mac's Dictionary.app 
doesn't contain it, either.

Are you trying to fix the dictionary? I have often felt Unix /usr/share/dict 
contains many words so obscure (or obsolete) as to be useless, but it seems to 
me this not only needs to be addressed upstream, but it's also pretty much a 
fulltime job for someone.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 06/08/2015 09:55 PM, Stroller wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 8 June 2015, at 2:25 pm, James 
> wrote:
>> ... So I just ran across this word "emeried" and I can only find
>> emory. I think "emeried" is obscure in both meaning and usage.
> 
> My 1970's copy of the 24-volume Oxford English Dictionary says that
> emery as a verb is to rub with emery (e.g. emery paper, I guess).
> 
> So I guess an example sentence would be "before the panel can be
> repainted, it must be emeried until all traces of the paint have been
> removed."
> 
> I agree this is obscure - I had to look it up, and my Mac's
> Dictionary.app doesn't contain it, either.
> 
Not really obscure. Emery paper is a "standard" type of sandpaper.
Emeried would fall under the same as sanded - sandpaper, buffed -
buffer, garrotted - garrotte, crapped - crap. But then again, I'm a
Structural Engineer/programmer not a linguist and technically failed
year 12 English :)

Andrew



Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
150608 James wrote:
> So I just ran across this word "emeried" and I can only find emory.

Others have pointed out that it's a verb from 'emery', an abrasive.

> Where do I find help ?

I always use  http://dictionary.reference.com/ ,
which is also good for etymology, sometimes important for English meanings.
In this case, it offered a long list of possible words, incl 'emeries',
which is the 3rd singular of the verb above.

The OED is the ultimate source for English words, incl eg US usages.
It's not free to the general user, but you can usually find access
or you can buy it in some CD/DVD form.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
James wrote:
>
> Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
> but there is not a "spellchecker" function to fix the mistakes,
> so what am I missing in seamonkey ( I run lxde, if that matters).
> If it's an addon I need, suggests as to the best (most complete)
> usa english would be welcome information. An unabridged english
> dictionary, even if from the right side of the pond, would be keen
> to integrate into seamonkey.
>

To get spell checking working for my native language I had to install 
the dictionary from seamonkey (Edit-Preferences-Appearence-Spelling, 
then from the Language field choose 'Download more dictionaries...'). I 
also have an English US/UK dictionary which I don't remember installing 
so I suppose it's part of the default SM (non-bin) package. In composer 
I switch between languages with CTRL-SHIFT-P. I also run LXDE.

I have the default Gentoo spell checkers installed for OpenOffice, I 
don't know if that matters for SM (hunspell, myspell-en, myspell-it).

raffaele

# eix -I seamonkey
[I] www-client/seamonkey
  Available versions:  2.32 (~)2.33 2.33.1-r1 {+chatzilla +crypt 
custom-cflags custom-optimization dbus debug +gmp-autoupdate gstreamer 
+ipc +jit minimal pulseaudio +roaming selinux startup-notification 
system-cairo system-icu system-jpeg system-libvpx system-sqlite test 
wifi LINGUAS="be ca cs de en_GB es_AR es_ES fi fr gl hu it ja lt nb_NO 
nl pl pt_PT ru sk sv_SE tr uk zh_CN zh_TW"}
  Installed versions:  2.33.1-r1(06:46:34 AM 05/14/2015)(crypt dbus 
gmp-autoupdate ipc startup-notification -chatzilla -custom-cflags 
-custom-optimization -debug -gstreamer -minimal -pulseaudio -roaming 
-selinux -system-cairo -system-icu -system-jpeg -system-libvpx 
-system-sqlite -test -wifi LINGUAS="it -be -ca -cs -de -en_GB -es_AR 
-es_ES -fi -fr -gl -hu -ja -lt -nb_NO -nl -pl -pt_PT -ru -sk -sv_SE -tr 
-uk -zh_CN -zh_TW")
  Homepage:http://www.seamonkey-project.org
  Description: Seamonkey Web Browser

# eix -I spell
[I] app-dicts/myspell-en
  Available versions:  20081002
  Installed versions:  20081002(07:11:38 PM 05/26/2012)
  Homepage:http://lingucomponent.openoffice.org/
  Description: English dictionaries for myspell/hunspell

[I] app-dicts/myspell-it
  Available versions:  20081129-r1
  Installed versions:  20081129-r1(08:12:04 AM 06/21/2012)
  Homepage:http://sourceforge.net/projects/linguistico/
  Description: Italian dictionaries for myspell/hunspell

[U] app-text/gtkspell
  Available versions:
  (2)2.0.16
  (3)3.0.4(3/0)
{+introspection vala}
  Installed versions:  2.0.16(2)(01:18:27 PM 12/14/2012)
  Homepage:http://gtkspell.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Spell checking widget for GTK

[I] app-text/hunspell
  Available versions:  1.3.3 {ncurses nls readline static-libs 
LINGUAS="af bg ca cs cy da de el en eo es et fo fr ga gl he hr hu ia id 
is it km ku lt lv mk ms nb nl nn pl pt pt_BR ro ru sk sl sq sv sw tn uk zu"}
  Installed versions:  1.3.3(09:09:54 PM 08/04/2014)(ncurses nls 
readline -static-libs LINGUAS="en it -af -bg -ca -cs -cy -da -de -el -eo 
-es -et -fo -fr -ga -gl -he -hr -hu -ia -id -is -km -ku -lt -lv -mk -ms 
-nb -nl -nn -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -sk -sl -sq -sv -sw -tn -uk -zu")
  Homepage:http://hunspell.sourceforge.net/
  Description: Hunspell spell checker - an improved 
replacement for myspell in OOo



Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/08/2015 05:32 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> Am 2015-06-08 um 14:22 schrieb Andrew Lowe:
> 
>>  Any chance this is a Logitech K520r wireless keyboard? I have one of
>> these and it at times "goes to sleep" for several seconds. Logitech know
>> about the problem but refuse to do anything. A google search will reveal
>> all the gory details. If on the other hand it isn't, sorry, got nothing
>> to offer.
> 
> No, it's wired keyboard by Lenovo: SK-8815
> 
> And, by the way, kernel 4.0.5 ... I cross-checked with 4.0.1 and 4.0.4
> ... same issue (maybe also the same problematic setting somewhere)
> 
> thanks, S
> 
> 

I would check if USB autosuspend is set for your keyboard, and if it is,
disable it on the keyboard.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
150608 Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
> Have you tried to use 'exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log"'
> to check what happening ?

Thanks for the suggestion : I tried it, but no log file appears.
I use 'startx' & put your line in  .xinitrc  in place of 'startfluxbox';
I also tried adding the log part to 'startfluxbox', but no improvement.

I plan to submit a bug, but log output mb useful to include there.

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[gentoo-user] Re: unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread James
Stroller  stellar.eclipse.co.uk> writes:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 8 June 2015, at 2:25 pm, James  tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > So I just ran across this word "emeried" and I can only find emory.
> > I think "emeried" is obscure in both meaning and usage. 
> 
> My 1970's copy of the 24-volume Oxford English Dictionary says that emery
as a verb is to rub with emery (e.g.
> emery paper, I guess).
> 
> So I guess an example sentence would be "before the panel can be
repainted, it must be emeried until all
> traces of the paint have been removed."
> 
> I agree this is obscure - I had to look it up, and my Mac's Dictionary.app
doesn't contain it, either.

YES. Emery is common. Emeried, is obsure; it may have several meanings in
context, like, YOU need POLISHING, you know one of those 'hi_brow' old
english tongue-lashings from an english intellectual (like a snob).
The word 'emeried' came across to me; and I hate when I cannot find the
exact context meaning of a word (it's a personal quark for a guy that 
often does not check his own spelling.





> Are you trying to fix the dictionary? I have often felt Unix
/usr/share/dict contains many words so obscure
> (or obsolete) as to be useless, but it seems to me this not only needs to
be addressed upstream, but it's also
> pretty much a fulltime job for someone.


A while back "Q" enquired if anyone would appreciate his efforts to bring
us a more robust "english dictionary".  So, this is a follow up on that,
but I could not find the thread (lazy_parser_is_broken_in_my_brain)



> Stroller.


James






Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
On 08.06.2015 16:44, Daniel Frey wrote:

> I would check if USB autosuspend is set for your keyboard, and if it is,
> disable it on the keyboard.

thanks a lot, that seems to do the trick!

Although I wonder where the difference is:

I compiled a gentoo 4.0.5 kernel based on the config from the fedora
kernel ... and they don't disable USB autosuspend via kernel option as I
do now within my gummiboot entry for gentoo.

Anyway, works for now, thanks again!





[gentoo-user] Re: unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread James
Raffaele BELARDI  st.com> writes:


> > Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
> > but there is not a "spellchecker" function to fix the mistakes,
> > so what am I missing in seamonkey 

> To get spell checking working for my native language I had to install 
> the dictionary from seamonkey (Edit-Preferences-Appearence-Spelling, 
> then from the Language field choose 'Download more dictionaries...'). I 
> also have an English US/UK dictionary which I don't remember installing 
> so I suppose it's part of the default SM (non-bin) package. In composer 
> I switch between languages with CTRL-SHIFT-P. I also run LXDE.

Yes Yes, I have all of this but nothing "pops up" like all other apps
to facilite word replacement. The mistakes are marked in red, but no
too_function to replace. I have to manually find the correct spelling
and type it in.  Did I miss a flag or config file?

> 
> I have the default Gentoo spell checkers installed for OpenOffice, I 
> don't know if that matters for SM (hunspell, myspell-en, myspell-it).
Every other app works just fine with spell checking, including firefox,
but seamonkey only marks the errors; no visable selection-replacement mechanism.



> raffaele
> # eix -I seamonkey


All of your settings (flags) and packages install are the same, except
Italian.

I have
aspell-ed, myspell-en, aspell hunspell and gtkspell too.

It's just the replacement function in seamonkey. Are you sure I do
not have to install some "add_on" to get that working? I've looke and
looked and do not know what I'm missing...


James







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Raffaele BELARDI
James wrote:
> Raffaele BELARDI  st.com> writes:
>
>
>>> Also, while we are at it, my seamonkey marks words as mispelled,
>>> but there is not a "spellchecker" function to fix the mistakes,
>>> so what am I missing in seamonkey
>
>> To get spell checking working for my native language I had to install
>> the dictionary from seamonkey (Edit-Preferences-Appearence-Spelling,
>> then from the Language field choose 'Download more dictionaries...'). I
>> also have an English US/UK dictionary which I don't remember installing
>> so I suppose it's part of the default SM (non-bin) package. In composer
>> I switch between languages with CTRL-SHIFT-P. I also run LXDE.
>
> Yes Yes, I have all of this but nothing "pops up" like all other apps
> to facilite word replacement. The mistakes are marked in red, but no
> too_function to replace. I have to manually find the correct spelling
> and type it in.  Did I miss a flag or config file?
>

Nothing pops up here either, I have to right-click on the misspelled 
word and then I get a context menu with list of alternative spellings. 
That's how I always used the spell checker, it there's a more convenient 
way I'd be glad to know also.

raffaele


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 Jun 2015 13:03:53 James wrote:
> Franz Fellner  gmail.com> writes:
> > James wrote:
> > > There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
> > > for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
> > > with an air compressor.
> > 
> > If you really blow out your laptop make sure the fans are fixed. If they
> > start turning while you blow into them they really can destroy your
> > hardware. Induction can be really bad ;)
> 
> If it does not have "diodes" in the circuits for power elements, shunting
> excess (reverse) power to ground, it's a piece of crap and would most
> likely die in a few years. It's pretty much routine engineering.
> 
> But yes, fans should only get a short burst of air at a time to avoid
> overspin and mechanical failure. Some may need to be replaced with
> better quality components. Most are metric, so just look online at
> diagrams, measure and replace as necessary. Most good computer shops
> will have an abundance of new fans they have gotten in kits that are
> not being used. If you do not hire the shop to replace, but just
> purchase the fans locally (used) there usually a few bucks in a technicians
> pocket...
> 
> 
> hth,
> James

My laptop gets hot on big package emerge-fests, so on hot summer days I use a 
desk fan to blow air at it from the side.  The cooling effect is noticeable, 
4-5°C, or more if I recall right.

I also use a vacuum cleaner to suck out any dust from cooling fins and the 
entrance to CPU cooler once a week or so.

This has kept it going for some years now (keeps fingers crossed).

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Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 8 June 2015 19:50:56 CEST, "Stefan G. Weichinger"  wrote:
>On 08.06.2015 16:44, Daniel Frey wrote:
>
>> I would check if USB autosuspend is set for your keyboard, and if it
>is,
>> disable it on the keyboard.
>
>thanks a lot, that seems to do the trick!
>
>Although I wonder where the difference is:
>
>I compiled a gentoo 4.0.5 kernel based on the config from the fedora
>kernel ... and they don't disable USB autosuspend via kernel option as
>I
>do now within my gummiboot entry for gentoo.
>
>Anyway, works for now, thanks again!

There was a similar thread here before about USB and suspend. Check that for 
specifics if in a hurry. Not at computer now to find the earlier email.

Apart from kernel level USB suspend. There are settings in /sys/ where you 
can disable USB suspend on a per-device level.

I would assume Fedora disables that for keyboards and mice (think previous 
thread was about mice getting forgotten) when detected as such.

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[gentoo-user] Re: unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread James
Raffaele BELARDI  st.com> writes:


> Nothing pops up here either, I have to right-click on the misspelled 
> word and then I get a context menu with list of alternative spellings. 

AH. Well that's retarded. I guess seamonkey is showing it's age, and my
ignorance or arcane interfaces.

> That's how I always used the spell checker, it there's a more convenient 
> way I'd be glad to know also.

There has to a "pop" like the billion or so other apps that have spell
checking..?

> raffaele


thx,
James









Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2015-06-08 um 20:25 schrieb J. Roeleveld:

> There was a similar thread here before about USB and suspend. Check
> that for specifics if in a hurry. Not at computer now to find the
> earlier email.

didn't find it yet .. but no hurry at all.

> Apart from kernel level USB suspend. There are settings in /sys/
> where you can disable USB suspend on a per-device level.

.. as mentioned in:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/USB_Power_Saving

?

> I would assume Fedora disables that for keyboards and mice (think
> previous thread was about mice getting forgotten) when detected as
> such.

I browsed their udev rules and found some rules pointing in that
direction but none specifically matching the PCI ID of my keyboard and
the wildcards ... I am not sure.

But they seem to do it specifically, yes ->

# cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
2

# my keyboard
# cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.6/power/control
on

I assume it won't hurt much if I disable USB autosuspend in general for
now? Power savings should be minimal, right? (desktop here, AC etc)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
So many replies!

On 06/08/2015 11:22 AM, Mick wrote:
> On Monday 08 Jun 2015 13:03:53 James wrote:
>> Franz Fellner  gmail.com> writes:
>>> James wrote:
 There may be a generic processor fan you can mount/glue onto the chip
 for cooling. Make sure all other fans are running. Blow out the laptop
 with an air compressor.

I cleaned it when I took it apart and reapplied thermal paste (which
worked wonders on the CPU and northbridge - idles at 35C ish now.)

> 
> My laptop gets hot on big package emerge-fests, so on hot summer days I use a 
> desk fan to blow air at it from the side.  The cooling effect is noticeable, 
> 4-5°C, or more if I recall right.

I think I'm going to invest in one of those cooling "docks". There does
appear to be vents in the general area of the southbridge chip, just no
fan or heatsink. This laptop is still working fine, as in I don't notice
hardware spottiness, so I'd rather not replace it. The processor itself
is fine speed-wise. I'd rather spend $20 on a cooler versus $1000+ on a
laptop. Cause I know when I go get one it'll be a quad core. :-)

I've also set up a distcc farm with 16 threads, that speeds compiling
right along. :-)

> 
> I also use a vacuum cleaner to suck out any dust from cooling fins and the 
> entrance to CPU cooler once a week or so.

I don't have pets any more, after the last pet died I didn't want to
repeat the anguish. So I'm lucky in that regard, I don't get fuzz in the
laptop. I was surprised how clean the fins on the heat pipe were,
actually...

> 
> This has kept it going for some years now (keeps fingers crossed).
> 

I hope to get a few more years out of this laptop. Lately I don't even
really use it that much compared to a year ago. Usually I set it up next
to my desktop when systemd fails on my main machine after an upgrade
(which has happened a few times in the past few months.)

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] some keyboard lag

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/08/2015 11:56 AM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
> I browsed their udev rules and found some rules pointing in that
> direction but none specifically matching the PCI ID of my keyboard and
> the wildcards ... I am not sure.
> 
> But they seem to do it specifically, yes ->
> 
> # cat /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend
> 2
> 
> # my keyboard
> # cat /sys/bus/usb/devices/3-1.6/power/control
> on
> 
> I assume it won't hurt much if I disable USB autosuspend in general for
> now? Power savings should be minimal, right? (desktop here, AC etc)
> 

I doubt it'll hurt anything. The power savings bit are more or less all
left to userspace now, and you can toggle something in /sys more than
likely to disable it on the keyboard (as was mentioned already.) It's
probably best to write a udev rule specifically for your keyboard (and
mouse, while you're at it) if you want to go that route.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: unabridged english dictionary?

2015-06-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 8 Jun 2015 18:28:23 + (UTC), James wrote:

> > Nothing pops up here either, I have to right-click on the misspelled 
> > word and then I get a context menu with list of alternative
> > spellings.   
> 
> AH. Well that's retarded. I guess seamonkey is showing it's age, and my
> ignorance or arcane interfaces.

Claws Mail does the same, so it could be a GTK thing. I prefer it anyway,
I don't want things popping up just because the spell checker hasn't
heard of a word I am using correctly. Whatever next, animated paper
clips? A little colour highlighting is enough of a hint for me.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fluxbox problem

2015-06-08 Thread Philip Webb
150608 Philip Webb wrote:
> 150608 Zhu Sha Zang wrote:
>> Have you tried to use 'exec fluxbox -log "~/.fluxbox/log"'
>> to check what happening ?
> Thanks for the suggestion : I tried it, but no log file appears.
> I use 'startx' & put your line in  .xinitrc  in place of 'startfluxbox';
> I also tried adding the log part to 'startfluxbox', but no improvement.

I have submitted Bug 551522 .

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Re: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-06-08 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote

> So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp
> (or neither?), and why?

  I'm still using ssmtp.  It still works.  I look at it this way...
there's no more development being done, because it's already perfect
.  It'll go into background mode if an email is sent, and the
receiving MTA doesn't accept within approx 45 seconds or so.

  I also like the fact that there's one config file.  My dialup script
(emergency backup when ADSL is down) runs su to copy over the ssmtp.conf
file with the dialup ISP's MTA.  When I sign off, the "dialdown" script
runs su to copy over the ssmtp.conf file with the ADSL ISP's MTA.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 08.06.2015 um 00:15 schrieb Daniel Frey:
> Hi all,
>
> Not really Gentoo-related (well except the overheating part - lots of
> compiling ;-) )
>
> I have a very old laptop. It is an LG F1 laptop (circa 2005/2006 I
> believe) about nine years old. This has a Core2 1.6GHz chip and 4GB RAM,
> even though it only sees 3GB (that should tell you it's pretty old!)
>
> Anyway, I noticed during my last compile-fest on my laptop (reinstalled,
> switched to systemd for testing) that a corner of the laptop is getting
> really hot. We are talking a fair bit of heat here, you can't keep it on
> your lap when it warms up.
>
> So I took it apart yesterday, figuring I should re-do the thermal paste.
> During this process, I discovered it's the southbridge ICH chip that's
> overheating. There's no cooler at all on this chip (the northbridge and
> CPU have heat piping), it's a bare chip.
>
> Now, I suspect there's not much I can do about this given it being a
> laptop and I might have to resign myself to the fact that I'm going to
> have to buy a laptop later this year/early next year.
>
> I am curious though, what causes this chip to overheat, and can I do
> something about it?
>
> I'm using lm_sensors, which doesn't provide a temperature for this
> particular chip. I've monitored processes and nothing really stands out.
> I've even tried disabling plasma, no luck.
>
> Dan
>
>

are you sure it is overheating and not operating within spec?

A lot of laptops have 'hot spots'.



Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/08/2015 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> 
> are you sure it is overheating and not operating within spec?
> 
> A lot of laptops have 'hot spots'.
> 

I've had this laptop for a really long time, and it's getting hot where
I normally rest my right wrist while typing. I would have noticed this
shortly after I bought it way back when. When it heats up, I cannot rest
my wrist for more than a few seconds, that's not normal for this old beast.

I tend to use my laptop when it's updating and I've only noticed this
the last couple of times updating.

It may be different now that I've reapplied the thermal paste to the
northbridge & CPU. I've also picked up one of those cooling pads just in
case. I've set it up now to see if it makes any difference. I'll leave
the laptop running

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Southbridge chip on laptop overheating

2015-06-08 Thread Daniel Frey
On 06/07/2015 09:05 PM, James wrote:
> 
> Last, I think some folks make a "cooling pad" for laptops. If you have
> agressive compile options (like mine MAKEOPTS="-j9 -l9") in your 
> make.conf, slow them way down (-j1) etc.
> 

I picked up one of these in the store today:

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA7S92RB3559&cm_re=laptop_cooler-_-34-982-182-_-Product

I paid about half that price, though. The fans are movable so I've moved
one fan to the northbridge/cpu and one to the southbridge. I guess I'll
leave the laptop running for a while and see what happens.

Dan





Re: [gentoo-user] msmtp vs. nullmailer

2015-06-08 Thread Mick
On Monday 08 Jun 2015 23:45:36 Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:47:04AM +0200, Marc Joliet wrote
> 
> > So my question is: what is your preference, nullmailer or msmtp
> > (or neither?), and why?
> 
>   I'm still using ssmtp.  It still works.  I look at it this way...
> there's no more development being done, because it's already perfect
> .  It'll go into background mode if an email is sent, and the
> receiving MTA doesn't accept within approx 45 seconds or so.

It doesn't work for all cases.  If you use symbols in your email password the 
login fails.  I tried escaping them, but have not been successful and found 
that it is a bug.

 
>   I also like the fact that there's one config file.  

Well, there' also the revaliases file.


>   My dialup script
> (emergency backup when ADSL is down) runs su to copy over the ssmtp.conf
> file with the dialup ISP's MTA.  When I sign off, the "dialdown" script
> runs su to copy over the ssmtp.conf file with the ADSL ISP's MTA.

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