Re: [gentoo-user] No network
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc and > configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere here? > And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be using the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 and http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ -- Neil Bothwick Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the marketing department. pgpDCLxDEXHW3.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No 'libs' in world file?
On Wednesday 04 March 2015 01:06:58 Walter Dnes wrote: > ... zip is an absolute dependancy of gcc and seamonkey ... A word to the wise: dependency. No As. :) -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] No 'libs' in world file?
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 05:30:34PM -0800, Daniel Frey wrote
> On 03/03/2015 10:06 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:
> > And a "lib" is not necessarily always a direct dependancy. E.g. my
> > HDHomerun OTA TV tuner requires the media-libs/libhdhomerun ebuild to be
> > explicitly installed.
> >
>
> Wait, really? I've had mine since 2010 and I've never had that package
> installed (media-libs/libhdhomerun). MythTV detected and used it without
> complaints. Or is it required for other programs?
>
> I just tried genlop and it is saying I've never had any version of
> libhdhomerun installed.
/usr/portage/distfiles/libhdhomerun_20140121.tgz is all of 47,685
bytes. It provides a ***COMMAND LINE INTERFACE***. I happen to be a
"command line commando"" Using that command line interface, I've rigged
up a bash script and a text config file that allows me to fire up the
local CBC station, on tuner 0, with the command...
tv 0 cbc
Similarly, I can launch the local CTV station with the command
tv 0 ctv
The other option is to "save 47,685 bytes" and emerge MythTV instead
USE="mysql" emerge -pv mythtv
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libogg-1.3.1 USE="-static-libs" 398 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-libs/libaio-0.3.110 USE="-static-libs {-test}" 42 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/xvid-1.3.3 USE="threads -examples -pic" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-fonts/liberation-fonts-2.00.0-r1 USE="X -fontforge"
2,249 KiB
[ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-qtgraphicssystem-1.1.1 2 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libmp4v2-2.0.0 USE="-static-libs {-test} -utils"
485 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/TermReadKey-2.300.200-r1 37 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/Net-Daemon-0.480.0-r1 29 KiB
[ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Sys-Syslog-0.320.0-r2 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Time-HiRes-1.972.500-r3 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Term-ANSIColor-4.20.0-r2 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] virtual/perl-Getopt-Long-2.390.0-r1 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtcore-4.8.5-r2:4 USE="exceptions glib ssl (-aqua)
-debug -iconv -icu -pch -qt3support" 235,832 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.3.4 USE="-static-libs" 1,066 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/taglib-1.9.1-r2 USE="asf mp4 -debug -examples
{-test}" 639 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-sound/lame-3.99.5-r1 USE="-debug -mp3rtp -sndfile
-static-libs" CPU_FLAGS_X86="(-mmx)" 568 KiB
[ebuild N ] x11-misc/wmctrl-1.07-r1 86 KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/faac-1.28-r4 USE="-static-libs" 663 KiB
[ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXinerama-1.1.3 USE="-static-libs" 272 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-db/mysql-init-scripts-2.0-r1 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/PlRPC-0.202.0-r2 18 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtscript-4.8.5:4 USE="exceptions jit (-aqua) -debug
-iconv -pch" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtdbus-4.8.5:4 USE="exceptions (-aqua) -debug -pch" 0
KiB
[ebuild N ] media-libs/libtheora-1.1.1-r1 USE="encode -doc -examples
-static-libs" 1,859 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtxmlpatterns-4.8.5:4 USE="(-aqua) -debug -pch" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/DBI-1.628.0 USE="{-test}" 573 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtgui-4.8.5-r3:4 USE="accessibility exceptions glib xv
(-aqua) -cups -debug -egl -gtkstyle -mng -nas -nis -pch -qt3support -tiff
-trace -xinerama" 51 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtwebkit-4.8.5:4 USE="exceptions jit (-aqua) -debug
-gstreamer -icu -pch" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtopengl-4.8.5:4 USE="exceptions (-aqua) -debug -egl
-pch -qt3support" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-db/mariadb-10.0.15-r1 USE="bindist community perl ssl
-cluster -debug -embedded -extraengine -jemalloc -latin1 -minimal -odbc
-oqgraph -pam -profiling (-selinux) -sphinx -static -static-libs -systemtap
-tcmalloc {-test} -tokudb -xml" 55,691 KiB
[ebuild N ] virtual/mysql-5.6-r2:0/18 USE="-embedded -minimal -static
-static-libs" 0 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-perl/DBD-mysql-4.20.0-r1 USE="-embedded" 135 KiB
[ebuild N ] dev-qt/qtsql-4.8.5:4 USE="exceptions mysql sqlite
(-aqua) -debug (-firebird) -freetds -oci8 -odbc -pch -postgres -qt3support" 0
KiB
[ebuild N ] media-tv/mythtv-0.27_p20140321 USE="hls theora vorbis xml
xvid -alsa (-altivec) -autostart -bluray -cec -crystalhd -debug -dvb -dvd -egl
-fftw -ieee1394 -jack -lcd -libass -lirc -perl -pulseaudio -python -raop -vaapi
-vdpau -xmltv" INPUT_DEVICES="-joystick" 84,182 KiB
total: 34 packages (34 new), Size of downloads: 384,869 KiB
No thanks.
--
Walter Dnes
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm
Am 28.02.2015 um 13:41 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 1:49 PM, hw wrote: Am 28.02.2015 um 11:35 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:29 PM, hw wrote: Hi, I'm trying to "use Net::IMAP::Client;" in a perl script and keep getting the message: Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Net::IMAP::Client module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib64/perl5/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/local/lib64/perl5/5.20.1 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.1 /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.1 .) at [scriptname] Does anyone know which package(s) I need to emerge to install the missing perl module? dev-perl/Mail-IMAPClient IMAP client module for Perl Thank you! I've emerged it and am still getting the same error message. sunflo ~ # find /usr -name Client.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.1/CPAN/HTTP/Client.pm sunflo ~ # Any ideas? The module above probably comes from the pkg below: equery -q b /usr/lib/perl5/5.20.1/CPAN/HTTP/Client.pm dev-lang/perl-5.20.1-r4 Looks like the pkg I suggested installing was wrong. Sorry about that. Np, at first I thought it should be in this package. I tried to emerge some packages which looked as if they might contain the module, to no avail. The portage tree doesn't seem to have a Net-IMAP-Client pkg: ls -1d /usr/portage/dev-perl/Net-IMAP* /usr/portage/dev-perl/Net-IMAP-Simple /usr/portage/dev-perl/Net-IMAP-Simple-SSL Someone else might have an idea for you. Sorry. If anything fails, I might be able to install it from cpan or so. Is there anything special to consider when doing this on Gentoo?
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm
Am 28.02.2015 um 13:09 schrieb Alan McKinnon: On Sat, 28 Feb 2015 11:29:30 +0100 hw wrote: Hi, I'm trying to "use Net::IMAP::Client;" in a perl script and keep getting the message: Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm in @INC (you may need to install the Net::IMAP::Client module) (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib64/perl5/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/local/lib64/perl5/5.20.1 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.20.1 /usr/local/lib64/perl5 /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl /usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.1/x86_64-linux /usr/lib64/perl5/5.20.1 .) at [scriptname] Does anyone know which package(s) I need to emerge to install the missing perl module? If memory serves (and if my eix skillz are up to it), it's this dev-perl/Net-IMAP-Simple sunflo ~ # eix dev-perl/Net-IMAP-Simple [I] dev-perl/Net-IMAP-Simple Available versions: (~)1.220.100-r1 Installed versions: 1.220.100-r1(16:16:45 20.02.2015) Homepage:http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-IMAP-Simple/ Description: Perl extension for simple IMAP account handling It's already installed ...
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm
Am 28.02.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Stroller: On Sat, 28 February 2015, at 10:29 am, hw wrote: I'm trying to "use Net::IMAP::Client;" in a perl script and keep getting the message: I don't think there's a package for this is in portage. You could try app-portage/g-cpan and seeing if that will install it. I believe I read a few months ago that it's in need of maintenance, but I'd expect it to work in most packages. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/perl/g-cpan.xml Thank you, I'll look into it and see if I can install the module I need :)
Re: [gentoo-user] No 'libs' in world file?
150304 Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 04 March 2015 01:06:58 Walter Dnes wrote: >> ... zip is an absolute dependancy of gcc and seamonkey ... > A word to the wise: dependency. No As. You mean "A's" or more accurately "A" ... (grin). Otherwise, why do Gentooers say 'dependency' when they mean 'requirement' ? -- eg above, while Zip is not required for Gcc or Seamonkey or VICE VERSA, Zip could hardly depend on Seamonkey, but Seamonkey could require it. Making sense of Portage output + dox is difficult enough, as it is. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
[OT] Re: [gentoo-user] No 'libs' in world file?
On Wednesday 04 March 2015 05:48:15 Philip Webb wrote: > 150304 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 04 March 2015 01:06:58 Walter Dnes wrote: > >> ... zip is an absolute dependancy of gcc and seamonkey ... > > > > A word to the wise: dependency. No As. > > You mean "A's" or more accurately "A" ... (grin). Nope. Certainly not "A's" (ugh!), and not "A" either, since the only number that's singular is 1. (You wouldn't say "my fruit bowl's empty - it contains no apple.") > Otherwise, why do Gentooers say 'dependency' when they mean > 'requirement' ? -- eg above, while Zip is not required for Gcc or > Seamonkey or VICE VERSA, Zip could hardly depend on Seamonkey, but > Seamonkey could require it. > > Making sense of Portage output + dox is difficult enough, as it is. No argument there. I could say something rude about Americans and English, but I'll contain myself. P) -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] No network
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:09:12 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > > > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc and > > configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere here? > > And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? > > ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. Of course I don't have any eth0 interface. What I have are: enp2s0 lo sit0 wlp1s0 What I am about to do: Update my /etc/conf.d/net like so: config_enp2s0="dhcp" config_lo="dhcp" config_sit0="dhcp" config_wlp1s0="dhcp" cd /etc/init.d ln -s net.enp2s0 net.sit0 net.wlp1s0 rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 rc-update del net.eth0 default rc-update add net.enp2s0 sit0 wlp1s0 default Please let me know if you find these steps correct. Thanks > > Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be using > the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 > and > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the marketing > department. -- German
Re: [gentoo-user] No 'libs' in world file?
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 05:48:15 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: > Otherwise, why do Gentooers say 'dependency' when they mean > 'requirement' ? It's a general Linux thing, not only Gentoo. > -- eg above, while Zip is not required for Gcc or > Seamonkey or VICE VERSA, Zip could hardly depend on Seamonkey, but > Seamonkey could require it. Seamonkey depends on zip, so zip is a dependency of Seamonkey. In this context dependency is a synonym of requirement, unlike the political context. -- Neil Bothwick Most software is about as user-friendly as a cornered rat! pgp7mem_IREbn.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] No network
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 06:57:48 -0500, German wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:09:12 + > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > > > > > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > > > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > > > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > > > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > > > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc > > > and configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere > > > here? And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? > > > > ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. > > Of course I don't have any eth0 interface. What I have are: > > enp2s0 > lo > sit0 > wlp1s0 Did you read the links later in my post? They explain this. > What I am about to do: > Update my /etc/conf.d/net like so: > > config_enp2s0="dhcp" > config_lo="dhcp" you need nothing for lo. > config_sit0="dhcp" > config_wlp1s0="dhcp" > > cd /etc/init.d > ln -s net.enp2s0 net.sit0 net.wlp1s0 Interfaces in init.d should each be symlinked to net.lo. But if you put all interfaces in init.d openrc will try to start all of them. Is that what you really want? If you have both wired and wireless interfaces, it is usual to use a network manager to control them. > > rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 > > rc-update del net.eth0 default > > rc-update add net.enp2s0 sit0 wlp1s0 default > > Please let me know if you find these steps correct. Thanks > > > > > Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be > > using the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see > > > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 > > and > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > > > > > > -- > > Neil Bothwick > > > > Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the marketing > > department. > > -- Neil Bothwick Accordion: a bagpipe with pleats. pgpYLp97f_nwN.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] new linux router
Hello, It's time to build a new router. Surely, I would just like to purchase hardware and run a minimized or embedded gentoo on it along with iptables and a few other packages. But, I got to reading and well it seems much has changed. Dansguardian is deprecated? If I add protection above layer 3, what is the best route (pun intended) to protect some winblows systems? And I need the ability to dynamically block some gaming sites (kids playing too many hours of video). Then I read about NFtables... [1] And there is more. So, being a bit busy what would folks recommend for purchase (I really do not need another project at this time)? I've used routers with ebtables in the past too. I'd like to be able to download some open source linux to the router hardware if updates and pathces are not maintained by the vendor? That way I do not purchase something that is to be abandoned in a few years by the vendor. It's just a small home/office so 3x100Mb E would be fine, but GigE ports would be better. I'm flexible on the CPU/arch of the hardware, so all discussion and suggestions are welcome. In an idealized world I'd pay extra for a gentoo_derivative based router; but all I find is the WRT, devil_linux and such, nothing really cool and interesting. Anyone used lilblue or pentoo as the basis for a firewalled_router? A purchase is what I really want, but some hacking, if absolutely necessary, would be ok too. Ideas? curiously, James [1] http://netfilter.org/projects/nftables/
Re: [gentoo-user] No network ( Solved, I am connected, thanks)
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:07:39 + Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 06:57:48 -0500, German wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:09:12 + > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > > > > > > > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > > > > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > > > > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > > > > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > > > > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc > > > > and configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere > > > > here? And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? > > > > > > ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. > > > > Of course I don't have any eth0 interface. What I have are: > > > > enp2s0 > > lo > > sit0 > > wlp1s0 > > Did you read the links later in my post? They explain this. > > > What I am about to do: > > Update my /etc/conf.d/net like so: > > > > config_enp2s0="dhcp" > > config_lo="dhcp" > > you need nothing for lo. > > > config_sit0="dhcp" > > config_wlp1s0="dhcp" > > > > cd /etc/init.d > > ln -s net.enp2s0 net.sit0 net.wlp1s0 > > Interfaces in init.d should each be symlinked to net.lo. But if you put > all interfaces in init.d openrc will try to start all of them. Is that > what you really want? If you have both wired and wireless interfaces, it > is usual to use a network manager to control them. > > > > > > rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 > > > > rc-update del net.eth0 default > > > > rc-update add net.enp2s0 sit0 wlp1s0 default > > > > Please let me know if you find these steps correct. Thanks > > > > > > > > Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be > > > using the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see > > > > > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 > > > and > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Neil Bothwick > > > > > > Bug: (n.) any program feature not yet described to the marketing > > > department. > > > > > > > > > -- > Neil Bothwick > > Accordion: a bagpipe with pleats. -- German
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't locate Net/IMAP/Client.pm
On 03/04/2015 05:16 AM, hw wrote: >> >> You could try app-portage/g-cpan and seeing if that will install >> it. I believe I read a few months ago that it's in need of >> maintenance, but I'd expect it to work in most packages. >> >> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/perl/g-cpan.xml > > Thank you, I'll look into it and see if I can install the module I > need :) > > File a bug for it. Even if no one commits to maintaining it in the tree, we can at least post ebuilds there and keep track of them in one place.
Re: [gentoo-user] new linux router
[OT] openwrt? —Sent from phone https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox";>Mailbox
Re: [gentoo-user] No network ( Solved, I am connected, thanks)
On Wednesday 04 Mar 2015 15:40:12 German wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:07:39 + > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 06:57:48 -0500, German wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:09:12 + > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > > > > > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > > > > > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > > > > > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > > > > > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > > > > > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc > > > > > and configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere > > > > > here? And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? > > > > > > > > ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. > > > > > > Of course I don't have any eth0 interface. What I have are: > > > > > > enp2s0 > > > lo > > > sit0 > > > wlp1s0 > > > > Did you read the links later in my post? They explain this. > > > > > What I am about to do: > > > Update my /etc/conf.d/net like so: > > > > > > config_enp2s0="dhcp" > > > config_lo="dhcp" > > > > you need nothing for lo. You also do not need to define dhcp for enp2s0, because it will be used by default. > > > config_sit0="dhcp" You only need this if you intend to set up and use IPv6 through an IPv4 tunnel. Most people won't need this. > > > config_wlp1s0="dhcp" > > > > > > cd /etc/init.d > > > ln -s net.enp2s0 net.sit0 net.wlp1s0 > > > > Interfaces in init.d should each be symlinked to net.lo. But if you put > > all interfaces in init.d openrc will try to start all of them. Is that > > what you really want? If you have both wired and wireless interfaces, it > > is usual to use a network manager to control them. > > > > > rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 > > > > > > rc-update del net.eth0 default > > > > > > rc-update add net.enp2s0 sit0 wlp1s0 default > > > > > > Please let me know if you find these steps correct. Thanks > > > > > > > Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be > > > > using the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see > > > > > > > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 > > > > and > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkIn > > > > terfaceNames/ Now that you're connected, or should I say BEFORE you got connected, you should also consider configuring a firewall for your IPv4 (and/or IPv6) network. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
>> I have several encrypted backup repositories online and I'd like to >> somehow mirror that offline. I currently have about 20G of data to >> back up. Any ideas? Rewritable Blu-Ray? >> >> - Grant >> >> > tape. Used tape drives are cheap. DLT and LTO is as reliable as granite. My goal here is to have something in case all of my online backup repositories (in various geographical locations) get hacked. That's the only plausible scenario I can think of that would result in me losing my data and I'd like to protect against it. Would any kind of disconnectable external drive be appropriate for this? Would tape be the best choice? - Grant
[gentoo-user] {OT} reliable USB extender?
I need to connect a Zebra LP2844 USB label printer at about 35 feet from a Gentoo machine. I got this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14ZTC but it is proving to be unreliable. The printer stops responding many times per day and needs to be power cycled. Is there a reliable way to make this connection? - Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} reliable USB extender?
On 2015-03-04, Grant wrote: > I need to connect a Zebra LP2844 USB label printer at about 35 feet > from a Gentoo machine. I got this: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14ZTC > > but it is proving to be unreliable. The printer stops responding many > times per day and needs to be power cycled. Is there a reliable way > to make this connection? Are you _required_ to use USB? If I were you, I'd stick an an Ethernet connected RS232 port widget on the printer and talk to it via Ethernet. OTOH, if it's only 35 feet, you could just run a serial cable to it (you might need to add a serial port to your host). The LP2844 has a serial port, right? Using USB for anything other than keyboard and mouse is asking for trouble. Due to MS/Intel's backing, and a few other historical accidents, USB beat out _far_ better options like Firewire and gets used/abused for all sorts of things for which it's not really appropriate. But, it's still a horrible protocol and oughtn't be used for anything where the Microsoft motto of "it sort of works most of the time" isn't good enough. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Am I elected yet? at gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} reliable USB extender?
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:13:24 -0800, Grant wrote: > I need to connect a Zebra LP2844 USB label printer at about 35 feet > from a Gentoo machine. I got this: > > http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14ZTC > > but it is proving to be unreliable. The printer stops responding many > times per day and needs to be power cycled. Is there a reliable way > to make this connection? These devices only do USB 1.1. Have you considered a USB repeater cable or two. Some of those are very good, I know someone who has run webcams over greater distances using them. -- Neil Bothwick When companies ship Styrofoam, what do they pack it in? pgp0WxHlJ43hw.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] new linux router
On 5 March 2015 1:10:40 AM AEST, James wrote: >Hello, > >It's time to build a new router. Surely, I would just like to >purchase hardware and run a minimized or embedded gentoo on it >along with iptables and a few other packages. But, I got to reading >and well it seems much has changed. Dansguardian is deprecated? >If I add protection above layer 3, what is the best route (pun >intended) >to protect some winblows systems? And I need the ability to dynamically >block some gaming sites (kids playing too many hours of video). > >Then I read about NFtables... [1] >And there is more. So, being a bit busy what would folks recommend >for purchase (I really do not need another project at this time)? >I've used routers with ebtables in the past too. > > >I'd like to be able to download some open source linux to the router >hardware if updates and pathces are not maintained by the vendor? >That way I do not purchase something that is to be abandoned in >a few years by the vendor. > >It's just a small home/office so 3x100Mb E would be fine, but GigE >ports would be better. I'm flexible on the CPU/arch of the hardware, >so all discussion and suggestions are welcome. In an idealized world >I'd pay extra for a gentoo_derivative based router; but all I find >is the WRT, devil_linux and such, nothing really cool and interesting. Maybe this would meet your needs? https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ There's also this link if you want to run gentoo, although you lose the networking performance of the original firmware http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 > >Anyone used lilblue or pentoo as the basis for a firewalled_router? > >A purchase is what I really want, but some hacking, if absolutely >necessary, would be ok too. Ideas? > >curiously, >James > >[1] http://netfilter.org/projects/nftables/ -- :b
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} reliable USB extender?
Am 04.03.2015 um 21:28 schrieb Grant Edwards: > On 2015-03-04, Grant wrote: > >> I need to connect a Zebra LP2844 USB label printer at about 35 feet >> from a Gentoo machine. I got this: >> >> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003L14ZTC >> >> but it is proving to be unreliable. The printer stops responding many >> times per day and needs to be power cycled. Is there a reliable way >> to make this connection? > Are you _required_ to use USB? > > If I were you, I'd stick an an Ethernet connected RS232 port widget on > the printer and talk to it via Ethernet. > > OTOH, if it's only 35 feet, you could just run a serial cable to it > (you might need to add a serial port to your host). > > The LP2844 has a serial port, right? > > > Using USB for anything other than keyboard and mouse is asking for > trouble. Due to MS/Intel's backing, and a few other historical > accidents, USB beat out _far_ better options like Firewire and gets > used/abused for all sorts of things for which it's not really > appropriate. But, it's still a horrible protocol and oughtn't be used > for anything where the Microsoft motto of "it sort of works most of > the time" isn't good enough. > > oh not again of that myth. Firewire was not better. And it is not better. USB is just fine. The solution is of course a cheap print server. There are even very cheap ones who can do ethernet&wireless.
[gentoo-user] Re: new linux router
gmail.com> writes: > [OT] openwrt? http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buyerguide yes still munging through the suggestions. I do not need wireless (actually prefer no wireless ports on the router). I was kinda looking for direct hardware recommendations, if you have a make/model you are aware of, or have been looking at lately? James
[gentoo-user] Re: new linux router
Bruce Schultz gmail.com> writes: > > > On 5 March 2015 1:10:40 AM AEST, James tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> I'd like to be able to download some open source linux to the router >> hardware if updates and pathces are not maintained by the vendor? >> That way I do not purchase something that is to be abandoned in >> a few years by the vendor. > Maybe this would meet your needs? > https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ > > There's also this link if you want to run gentoo, although you lose > the networking performance of the original firmware > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 Now this is exactly what I'm looking for; a vendor light weight router and I can put linux on (preferable gentoo) in case the vendor does not offer updated images or stay up with patches and such. Very, Very cool! Do you own one? Have you or another tried it? Have you put gentoo on it? Do you know which dev rooted this hardware and/or wrote the howto web page you reference above? James
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
On Mar 4, 2015, at 21:50, Grant wrote: >>> I have several encrypted backup repositories online and I'd like to >>> somehow mirror that offline. I currently have about 20G of data to >>> back up. Any ideas? Rewritable Blu-Ray? >>> >>> - Grant >> tape. Used tape drives are cheap. DLT and LTO is as reliable as granite. > > > My goal here is to have something in case all of my online backup > repositories (in various geographical locations) get hacked. That's > the only plausible scenario I can think of that would result in me > losing my data and I'd like to protect against it. Would any kind of > disconnectable external drive be appropriate for this? Would tape be > the best choice? > > - Grant >
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
> On Mar 4, 2015, at 21:50, Grant wrote: >> DLT and LTO is as reliable as granite. > Would tape be > the best choice? Yes. I would use tape. -- -Matti
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 07:51:35AM -0800, Grant wrote > I have several encrypted backup repositories online and I'd like to > somehow mirror that offline. I currently have about 20G of data to > back up. Any ideas? Rewritable Blu-Ray? 32 gigabyte USB keys are around $20 CDN, probably less in US dollars. http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=058767 128 gigabyte keys for $80 http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=069903 256 and 512 gigabyte capacities are also available, but they're more expensive. Format a USB key as ext2fs, and it'll handle permissions and UID's properly. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
Am Mittwoch, 04.03.2015 um 23:29 schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 07:51:35AM -0800, Grant wrote > > I have several encrypted backup repositories online and I'd like to > > somehow mirror that offline. I currently have about 20G of data to > > back up. Any ideas? Rewritable Blu-Ray? > > 32 gigabyte USB keys are around $20 CDN, probably less in US > dollars. > http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=058767 > > 128 gigabyte keys for $80 > http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=069903 > > 256 and 512 gigabyte capacities are also available, but they're more > expensive. Format a USB key as ext2fs, and it'll handle permissions > and UID's properly. Most USB-Sticks are cheap consumer products and IMHO not very reliable. I had several faulty stick over the years. If you plan to use USB-Sticks for your backups then buy two of them from different vendors and copy your data to both of them. -- Regards wabe
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new linux router
On 5 March 2015 7:24:04 AM AEST, James wrote: >Bruce Schultz gmail.com> writes: > >> >> >> On 5 March 2015 1:10:40 AM AEST, James >tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>> I'd like to be able to download some open source linux to the >router >>> hardware if updates and pathces are not maintained by the vendor? >>> That way I do not purchase something that is to be abandoned in >>> a few years by the vendor. > >> Maybe this would meet your needs? >> https://www.ubnt.com/edgemax/edgerouter-lite/ >> >> There's also this link if you want to run gentoo, although you lose >> the networking performance of the original firmware >> http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/MIPS/ERLite-3 > > >Now this is exactly what I'm looking for; a vendor light weight router >and I can put linux on (preferable gentoo) in case the vendor does >not offer updated images or stay up with patches and such. > >Very, Very cool! Do you own one? Yes. Sadly it is still in its box in the cupboard for the past few weeks. >Have you or another tried it? >Have you put gentoo on it? I did plan to, but, you know... time... There's some more info here if you scroll down a few comments https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7281991 > >Do you know which dev rooted this hardware and/or wrote the >howto web page you reference above? I thought a wiki should keep page edit history, but I can't find it Bruce -- :B
Re: [gentoo-user] No network ( Solved, I am connected, thanks)
On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:25:07 + Mick wrote: > On Wednesday 04 Mar 2015 15:40:12 German wrote: > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 12:07:39 + > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 06:57:48 -0500, German wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 08:09:12 + > > > > > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 2015 02:01:20 -0500, German wrote: > > > > > > So I rebuilt my kernel with r8169 for network NIC and rtl8723be for > > > > > > Wi-fi NIC, however I can't connect to internet. I think the problem > > > > > > here with interfaces, but could be something else, have no clue. I > > > > > > remember when I installed openSuse, it listed my interfaces like > > > > > > "SP0_something" instead of eth0. But I followed gentoo install doc > > > > > > and configured it with eth0. Can it be that problem lays somewhere > > > > > > here? And how to get the list of interfaces on my machine? > > > > > > > > > > ifconfig -a lists all interfaces present. > > > > > > > > Of course I don't have any eth0 interface. What I have are: > > > > > > > > enp2s0 > > > > lo > > > > sit0 > > > > wlp1s0 > > > > > > Did you read the links later in my post? They explain this. > > > > > > > What I am about to do: > > > > Update my /etc/conf.d/net like so: > > > > > > > > config_enp2s0="dhcp" > > > > config_lo="dhcp" > > > > > > you need nothing for lo. > > You also do not need to define dhcp for enp2s0, because it will be used by > default. > > > > > config_sit0="dhcp" > > You only need this if you intend to set up and use IPv6 through an IPv4 > tunnel. Most people won't need this. > > > > > > config_wlp1s0="dhcp" > > > > > > > > cd /etc/init.d > > > > ln -s net.enp2s0 net.sit0 net.wlp1s0 > > > > > > Interfaces in init.d should each be symlinked to net.lo. But if you put > > > all interfaces in init.d openrc will try to start all of them. Is that > > > what you really want? If you have both wired and wireless interfaces, it > > > is usual to use a network manager to control them. > > > > > > > rm /etc/init.d/net.eth0 > > > > > > > > rc-update del net.eth0 default > > > > > > > > rc-update add net.enp2s0 sit0 wlp1s0 default > > > > > > > > Please let me know if you find these steps correct. Thanks > > > > > > > > > Unless you added net.ifnames=0 to your kernel options, you will be > > > > > using the new(ish) predictable network interface names, see > > > > > > > > > > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade#udev_208_to_216 > > > > > and > > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkIn > > > > > terfaceNames/ > > Now that you're connected, or should I say BEFORE you got connected, you > should also consider configuring a firewall for your IPv4 (and/or IPv6) > network. What package I should use for this on a console? I want something simple but efficient. > > -- > Regards, > Mick -- German
[gentoo-user] See bootup/poweroff screen?
I have a SSD in my laptop and the system boots really fast so I can't see the details of the warnings it displays. Are there any way to scroll the screen or see some system boot's logs? Thanks -- German
[gentoo-user] Re: new linux router
Bruce Schultz gmail.com> writes: > Yes. Sadly it is still in its box in the cupboard for the past few weeks. Precisely why I need to purchase something functional and easy to set up, for now. >> Have you or another tried it? >> Have you put gentoo on it? > I did plan to, but, you know... time... > There's some more info here if you scroll down a few comments > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7281991 Very interesting thread, as I have not been hacking on routers for a few years, since my consulting gig ended. I am going to get back to some router hacking, as soon as some of the multi_core Arm64 bit SOC chips are affordable with some very fast ram (ddr 3,4,5). It's taking forever for those chips to become available at reasonable street pricing. I'm tired of the run of the mill embedded micros running embedded linux. Besides, my home office network is meager on the bandwidth needs at this time. >> Do you know which dev rooted this hardware and/or wrote the >> howto web page you reference above? > I thought a wiki should keep page edit history, but I can't find it Yep. I'm too lazy to expend the energy to figure it out, but, there's only a few folks hacking on mips 64 these days who would bother to post to the gentoo_wiki. Not a big deal. > Bruce thx, James
Re: [gentoo-user] See bootup/poweroff screen?
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:58 PM, German wrote: > I have a SSD in my laptop and the system boots really fast so I can't see > the details of the warnings it displays. Are there any way to scroll the > screen or see some system boot's logs? Try; dmesg | less And you may also find what you need in /var/log/messages.
Re: [gentoo-user] See bootup/poweroff screen?
German wrote: > I have a SSD in my laptop and the system boots really fast so I can't see the > details of the warnings it displays. Are there any way to scroll the screen > or see some system boot's logs? Thanks > You may want to read this post and try this method too. I did this ages ago and on occasion, it helps. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7682938.html#7682938 It should scroll to it but it's the second post that is made by PeGa! that may help. The messages go to this file: /var/log/rc.log Dale :-) :-) * *
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} offline backups
waben...@gmail.com wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 04.03.2015 um 23:29 > schrieb "Walter Dnes" : > >> On Tue, Mar 03, 2015 at 07:51:35AM -0800, Grant wrote >>> I have several encrypted backup repositories online and I'd like to >>> somehow mirror that offline. I currently have about 20G of data to >>> back up. Any ideas? Rewritable Blu-Ray? >> 32 gigabyte USB keys are around $20 CDN, probably less in US >> dollars. >> http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=058767 >> >> 128 gigabyte keys for $80 >> http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_180_181&item_id=069903 >> >> 256 and 512 gigabyte capacities are also available, but they're more >> expensive. Format a USB key as ext2fs, and it'll handle permissions >> and UID's properly. > Most USB-Sticks are cheap consumer products and IMHO not very reliable. > I had several faulty stick over the years. If you plan to use > USB-Sticks for your backups then buy two of them from different vendors > and copy your data to both of them. > > -- > Regards > wabe > > It would seem that this is a backup to a backup. I think I read earlier that the OP already has backups but just wants more backups just in case. I guess one can never really have to much, I guess. Dale :-) :-)
