Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 14.07.2012 01:41, schrieb walt:
> On 07/13/2012 02:57 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
>>
>>> But I wonder how the migration might look like and work out, especially
>>> with that win7pro on board.
>>>
>>> It is still a productive box ... (gentoo way more important than win7, sure)
>>
>> For anyone else attacking this:
>>
>> I now have both GRUB2/Gentoo and Win7pro booting via UEFI here.
>>
>> It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
>> with the situation. SSD added for /root and /home ... all disks GPT now
>> (and disabled BIOS-booting completely).
> 
> Congratulations :)  Just to clarify, you are using the ersatz software
> emulator for UEFI because the BIOS is old, is this correct?

No. The motherboard/system provides both here, BIOS and UEFI.

So I can choose which device (SATA0,1,2,3 ... USB-CDROM ... you name it)
should be tried to boot via BIOS or UEFI. I slowly moved over to only
UEFI now.

I don't how if this UEFI is emulated somehow.

It's a HP Elite 7300 MT machine.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 14.07.2012 10:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:

>>> It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
>>> with the situation. 

What has to be polished:

All this migration left quite some traces. I had grub and grub2, the
EFI-stuff now in /boot/efi ... etc ... and now I have the situation
where GRUB2 somehow reads the wrong grub.cfg or something. For example
if I try to toggle using a font (for testing) it doesn't get read at
boot time. Even if I re-announce(?) GRUB2 to UEFI etc.

I can boot gentoo, that's OK, but I think there's too much stuff in boot
now.

I hesitate to remove things so I ask:

if I have that /boot/efi partition mounted, does there have to be
anything grub-related in /boot at all?

I followed this guide, at least in most parts:

https://forums-web1.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7011836.html?sid=eb4f57a5e29f9e03463a4888296c6462

and this doesn't speak of coming from an older installation of grub or
grub2, so it doesn't mentioned cleaning up stuff or something.

In my /boot I have:

efi
grub
grub2

...

which seems odd to me.

And yes, I removed grub-0.9x already.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to split boost emerge

[Florian Philipp]

Am 13.07.2012 01:21, schrieb Alan McKinnon:
> On Thu, 12 Jul 2012 20:43:47 +0200
> Florian Philipp  wrote:
> 
>> Am 12.07.2012 17:47, schrieb Ezequiel Garcia:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> This is related to my other gnash question.
>>>
>>> I'd like to emerge boost but selecting only a few modules,
>>> for instance: filesystem, thread,  just a few.
>>>
>>> But it seems there is no way to do it!
>>>
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ezequiel.
>>>
>>
>> No, there is currently no way to do this. You could ask Diego Pettenò
>> (Flameeyes) [1][2] to implement it but Boost's build system is a mess
>> [3] and I'm not sure it is actually possible.
>>
>> [1] mailto:flamee...@flameeyes.eu
>> [2] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/
>> [3] http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/07/boosting-my-morale-i-wish
> 
> 
> And the Boost docs anyway say something along the lines of
> 
> "You should not *actually* try and build this stuff. Copy-paste the
> bits you need into your code."
> 
> I think that says it all...
> 
> 

Well, the nice thing about a template library is that for most of it,
that's exactly what the compiler does, anyway ;-)

Cheers,
Florian



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Fri, Jul 13 2012, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> Am Freitag, 13. Juli 2012, 13:42:47 schrieb Allan Gottlieb:
>> I will be getting a new laptop with ssd (250GB).
>> 
>> I currently run ~amd64 and wonder if this is too much writing for the
>> flash.
>> 
>> I have adapted to and now enjoy gnome3.  If I were forced to run stable
>> to limit compiles I would still use package.accept_keywords to permit
>> gnome3.
>> 
>> Any experiences with testing and ssd?
>> 
>> thanks,
>> allan
>
> one ssd for /
> one ssd for /home
>

[[ snip ]]

> testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay
>
> but:
> /var 
> and PORTDIR not on ssd.
>
> seriously, intel had once some calculations that even with lots of daily 
> writes you could go on for years as long as you did not fill up the ssd 
> completely.

I will be sure to keep some empty space.
thanks,
allan

Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick files read only

[Alan McKinnon]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 19:17:14 -0600
Joseph  wrote:

> I've a usbstick formated with ext2 file system and must have use it
> on a different computer because when mount the usb stick I get file
> ownership: -rw-r--r-- 1 test   users 692926 Jan  7  2012
> asterisk_1_4_39.tar.gz -rw-r--r-- 1 test   users   8502 Jul 21
> 2011 asterisk-help.txt -rw-r--r-- 1 joseph  1000  22696 Mar 26
> 18:27 asus_10-0-0-1_shaw_nvrambak.bin -rw-r--r-- 1 joseph  1000
> 22459 Mar 26 16:16 asus_home_10-10-0-1.nvrambak.bin
> 
> The ownership should be joseph:users but when I try to change (as
> root) it I get : Read-only file system chown -R
> joseph:users /media/stick/* chown: changing ownership of
> `/media/stick/asterisk_1_4_39.tar.gz': Read-only file system chown:
> changing ownership of `/media/stick/asterisk-help.txt': Read-only
> file system
> 
> How to deal with it?
> I the past changing the ownership always worked from root.

The error clearly tells you the file-system is read-only. It does not
say permission denied.

Fix the read-only aspect first



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 14.07.2012 11:25, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Am 14.07.2012 10:57, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> 
 It *works* so far, still some polishing to do ... but I am quite happy
 with the situation. 
> 
> What has to be polished:
> 
> All this migration left quite some traces. I had grub and grub2, the
> EFI-stuff now in /boot/efi ... etc ... and now I have the situation
> where GRUB2 somehow reads the wrong grub.cfg or something. For example
> if I try to toggle using a font (for testing) it doesn't get read at
> boot time. Even if I re-announce(?) GRUB2 to UEFI etc.

OK, tested things, that grub.cfg gets read.

But as I set

GRUB_PLATFORMS="efi-64"

there are other modules/features/commands available at boottime, for
example also other/less videomodes, at least here.

(vbeinfo does not exist then, and other things you get when you emerge
grub with GRUB_PLATFORMS="pc". Also booting isos does not work with the
same commands then, no "linux16" command, for example)

I hesitate to re-emerge with "pc" just to get a different screen
resolution at boot-time ... right now everything is working OK for me,
and I rather wait for some feedback here before I go and crash things
again ;-)

There are quite a lot howtos out there, maybe even too much ... with
slight differences ...

Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 1:34 AM, Nilesh Govindrajan
 wrote:
> On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:58:22 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>>
>> On Sat 14 Jul 2012 09:54:00 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat 14 Jul 2012 07:22:33 AM IST, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:

 On Jul 13, 2012 10:37 PM, "Michael Hampicke" >>> > wrote:
 >
 > > Lately, ever since I installed gnome3 (3.2), a lot of things have
 gone
 > > unstable. Gnome crashes a lot and pulseaudio too, on every start
 (I see a
 > > segfault by the equalizer module).
 >
 > I had lots of graphics related problems with gnome3.2 - from render
 > errors to system freezes. So in a desperate move I unmasked gnome3.4
 > (from the overlay) and installed it. Installing (and maintaining)
 3.4 is
 > a bit hairy, but all my problems have gone since that.
 >
 > So if recompiling with O2 does not help, and you don't mind bleeding
 > edge packages on your system, try 3.4
 >

 Already on gnome 3.4, unmasked from default portage, no overlay.

 Complete rebuild over with O2, still getting these errors:

 Http://bpaste.net/show/34934

>>>
>>> It seems I was using only gnome-shell 3.4 and did not update others.
>>> Now I unmasked 3.4 completely (gnome-base/*, gnome-extra/*).
>>> It's much more stable than 3.2, except for the two faults I pasted
>>> above.
>>>
>>> Watching this thing now for crashes, will post update soon.
>>>
>>
>> And boo.. it crashed just after writing the previous mail. Upto 3
>> windows on the single workspace was good, with 4 it crashed. :|
>>
>> No faults reported in dmesg though.
>>
>> Is my video card incompetent?
>>
>
> I'm compelled to concolude that GNOME3 simply does not work on 4-5 year old
> hardware. Yeah, on a Dual Core 2 Ghz, 3 GB RAM, and i945 128 MB.
>
> I'm back to my cozy place, KDE and alsaequal (instead of pulseaudio).

I know "works for me" is basically useless, but my laptop is from
2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
card.

As I said, works perfectly.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Grub2, uefi, gpt etc etc

[Stefan G. Weichinger]

Am 14.07.2012 17:59, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> Also booting isos does not work with the
> same commands then, no "linux16" command, for example)

correction here:

I can boot sysrescue-CD from iso.

memtest does not work, as it tries to use command "linux16".

S

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HW-raid1 & SSD?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Freitag, 13. Juli 2012, 18:34:01 schrieb Jarry:
> On 11-Jul-12 18:09, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >> Does anyone have any experience with SSD in raid (SW or HW)?
> >> Is it safe to use it on server?
> > 
> > just ask intel support. Really.
> 
> 
> Dear Mr...,
> Thank you for contacting Intel® Technical Support.
> Please be aware that we do not offer interactive presales support.
> However, if you require advice regarding one of our mainstream Intel
> "boxed" products, we recommend that you contact one of our authorised
> retailers who should be in the position to help you
> 
> 
> Well, that is "Intel-way" of support: first you have to buy
> product, and then maybe they tell you you can not use it...
> 
> :-(
> 
> Jarry

hm, well... OCZ support is really nice ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

[Mark Knecht]

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
 wrote:

> testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay
>
> but:
> /var
> and PORTDIR not on ssd.
>

So you have these on a HDD? /var for large write count reasons and
PORTDIR for size reasons?

Thanks,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo testing and ssd

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Samstag, 14. Juli 2012, 13:28:32 schrieb Mark Knecht:
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> > testing, kde, + kde-testing overlay
> > 
> > but:
> > /var
> > and PORTDIR not on ssd.
> 
> So you have these on a HDD? /var for large write count reasons and
> PORTDIR for size reasons?

mostly because 64 gb is not so much ;) 
But sparing the ssd a lot of writes is an additional bonus.

and not on one hdd but 3... a raid5. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

[Nilesh Govindrajan]

On 07/14/2012 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:


I know "works for me" is basically useless, but my laptop is from
2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
card.

As I said, works perfectly.

Regards.



Interesting. The only difference here is, it's a desktop with 3 GB RAM, 
with a i945 instead of i915. Buggy opengl drivers probably.


--
Nilesh Govindrajan
http://nileshgr.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Random segfaults with gnome

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Nilesh Govindrajan
 wrote:
> On 07/14/2012 10:25 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>>
>>
>> I know "works for me" is basically useless, but my laptop is from
>> 2008, a dual core 2.26 GHz with 4 GB of RAM, and an Intel Corporation
>> Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller, i915 video
>> card.
>>
>> As I said, works perfectly.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>
> Interesting. The only difference here is, it's a desktop with 3 GB RAM, with
> a i945 instead of i915. Buggy opengl drivers probably.

A backtrace from gnome-shell would shed more light.

https://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/Debugging

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México