[gentoo-user] solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread Space Cake

Hi,

For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl, but 
I'm lost.. any idea?


emerge --keep-going -upND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy 
"net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_nss]".

!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo (Change USE: +curl_ssl_nss, this 
change violates use flag constraints defined by net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1: 
'threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls 
curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss 
curl_ssl_polarssl ) )')

(dependency required by "net-libs/liboauth-0.9.6[curl,nss]" [installed])
(dependency required by 
"gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.2.3-r1[gnome-online-accounts]" 
[installed])

(dependency required by "gnome-extra/gnome-contacts-3.2.2" [installed])
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])



[I] net-misc/curl
 Available versions:  7.21.4 (~)7.21.6 (~)7.21.7 (~)7.21.7-r2 
(~)7.22.0 (~)7.23.1 7.24.0 (~)7.25.0 (~)7.25.0-r1 {ares curl_ssl_axtls 
curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_nss +curl_ssl_openssl 
curl_ssl_polarssl gnutls idn ipv6 kerberos ldap nss ssh ssl static-libs 
test threads}
 Installed versions:  7.25.0-r1(12.34.47 
2012-05-14)(curl_ssl_openssl idn ipv6 ldap ssh ssl threads -ares 
-curl_ssl_axtls -curl_ssl_cyassl -curl_ssl_gnutls -curl_ssl_nss 
-curl_ssl_polarssl -kerberos -static-libs -test)

 Homepage:http://curl.haxx.se/
 Description: A Client that groks URLs

---

Thank you
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Re: [gentoo-user] solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:49:59 +0200, Space Cake wrote:

> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy 
> "net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_nss]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
> - net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo (Change USE: +curl_ssl_nss, this 
> change violates use flag constraints defined by
> net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1: 'threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of
> ( curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl
> curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )')

You need to set curl_ssl_nss but you cannot have this set at the same
time as any other curl_ssl* flags, the error message says you must have
exactly one of them. So you also need to set -curl_ssl_openssl as that
one is enabled by default.


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[gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only

2012-05-14 Thread felix
I have been using encfs to store most of my home dir for ages.  I rebooted 
Sunday morning (it's a ~amd64 system) to change kernel to 3.3.5 from 3.3.4, and 
sometime overnight, after the nightly backups and mail archives had run, the 
encfs mounted partition became read-only.  I know the timing only by the cron 
jobs; the nightly mail backup moves files from the /home partition to the encfs 
partition, and it had not failed.  I unmounted the encfs partition, remounted, 
and it was read-only right from the get go.

There are no errors in /var/log/messages of any sort since the 3.3.5 boot.  The 
mount command showed both the encfs partition and the underlying regular 
partition as rw, not ro.

I just now rebooted back to 3.3.4, and it's read-write, but so was 3.3.5 at the 
beginning, and for at least 20 hours.  I do not know if the read-only switch 
was from a time delay, from some activity, from the kernel change, or some 
other package.  If it lasts a day or two without switching to read-only, I will 
try 3.3.5 again.

I am going to set up a screen session to check the rw capability every minute, 
to see if pinning down the time helps any with the log file.

Does anyone know of any package changes that would have caused this?  Neither 
google nor the gentoo bug search found anything interesting for "encfs" or 
"fuser".

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[gentoo-user] Re: solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread walt
On 05/14/2012 03:49 AM, Space Cake wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl, but I'm 
> lost.. any idea?

That problem drove me nuts for months.  I finally discovered by desperate
trial and error that un-setting the 'curl' useflag fixes it.  Finally!





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread Space Cake

Removing keywords from curl produces this

brutal keywords # emerge --keep-going -upND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!

emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy 
"net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_nss]".

!!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request:
- net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo (Change USE: +curl_ssl_nss, this 
change violates use flag constraints defined by 
net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1: 'threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( 
curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl 
curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )')

(dependency required by "net-libs/liboauth-0.9.6[curl,nss]" [installed])
(dependency required by 
"gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.2.3-r1[gnome-online-accounts]" 
[installed])

(dependency required by "gnome-extra/gnome-contacts-3.2.2" [installed])
(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])


eix output:[I] net-misc/curl
Available versions:  7.21.4 (~)7.21.6 (~)7.21.7 (~)7.21.7-r2 
(~)7.22.0 (~)7.23.1 7.24.0 (~)7.25.0 (~)7.25.0-r1 {ares curl_ssl_axtls 
curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_nss +curl_ssl_openssl 
curl_ssl_polarssl gnutls idn ipv6 kerberos ldap nss ssh ssl static-libs 
test threads}
Installed versions:  7.25.0-r1(12.34.47 
2012-05-14)(curl_ssl_openssl idn ipv6 ldap ssh ssl threads -ares 
-curl_ssl_axtls -curl_ssl_cyassl -curl_ssl_gnutls -curl_ssl_nss 
-curl_ssl_polarssl -kerberos -static-libs -test)

Homepage:http://curl.haxx.se/
Description: A Client that groks URLs


So, this is asking for curl_ssl_nss,

But after I set this I'm getting this

brutal ~ # emerge --keep-going -upND world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies /

!!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/curl from @selected
... done!

!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "net-misc/curl" has unmet 
requirements.
- net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo USE="idn ipv6 ldap ssl threads -ares 
-kerberos -ssh -static-libs -test" CURL_SSL="nss openssl -axtls -cyassl 
-gnutls -polarssl"


 The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
   ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl 
curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )


 The above constraints are a subset of the following complete 
expression:
   threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls 
curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss 
curl_ssl_polarssl ) )


(dependency required by "@selected" [set])
(dependency required by "@world" [argument])




On 2012. máj. 14., hétfő, 15.08.17 CEST, walt wrote:

On 05/14/2012 03:49 AM, Space Cake wrote:

Hi,

For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl, but I'm 
lost.. any idea?


That problem drove me nuts for months.  I finally discovered by desperate
trial and error that un-setting the 'curl' useflag fixes it.  Finally!







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Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Hampicke


Am 14.05.2012 14:33, schrieb fe...@crowfix.com:
> I have been using encfs to store most of my home dir for ages.  I rebooted 
> Sunday morning (it's a ~amd64 system) to change kernel to 3.3.5 from 3.3.4, 
> and sometime overnight, after the nightly backups and mail archives had run, 
> the encfs mounted partition became read-only.  I know the timing only by the 
> cron jobs; the nightly mail backup moves files from the /home partition to 
> the encfs partition, and it had not failed.  I unmounted the encfs partition, 
> remounted, and it was read-only right from the get go.
> 
> There are no errors in /var/log/messages of any sort since the 3.3.5 boot.  
> The mount command showed both the encfs partition and the underlying regular 
> partition as rw, not ro.
> 
> I just now rebooted back to 3.3.4, and it's read-write, but so was 3.3.5 at 
> the beginning, and for at least 20 hours.  I do not know if the read-only 
> switch was from a time delay, from some activity, from the kernel change, or 
> some other package.  If it lasts a day or two without switching to read-only, 
> I will try 3.3.5 again.
> 
> I am going to set up a screen session to check the rw capability every 
> minute, to see if pinning down the time helps any with the log file.
> 
> Does anyone know of any package changes that would have caused this?  Neither 
> google nor the gentoo bug search found anything interesting for "encfs" or 
> "fuser".
> 

If I remember correctly, EncFS is not a file system on it's own, it's
more like an addon to any other file system.
So maybe the problem is not with EncFS, but the underlaying file system.

A wild guess would be that the underlaying filesystem of your EncFS
partition is ext2/3/4 and has run out of inodes? You can check the inode
count with 'df -i'

This happend to me once, but I cannot remember if the file system then
was mounted readonly or there were 'out-of-space' error messages.

If that does not help, try to fsck your EncFS partition. Unmount first.



Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only

2012-05-14 Thread felix
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 04:11:20PM +0200, Michael Hampicke wrote:

> If I remember correctly, EncFS is not a file system on it's own, it's
> more like an addon to any other file system.
> So maybe the problem is not with EncFS, but the underlaying file system.
> 
> A wild guess would be that the underlaying filesystem of your EncFS
> partition is ext2/3/4 and has run out of inodes? You can check the inode
> count with 'df -i'
> 
> This happend to me once, but I cannot remember if the file system then
> was mounted readonly or there were 'out-of-space' error messages.

It's a reiserfs, and df -i shows zeroes; I had never given any thought
to reiserfs and inodes.  Interesting.

> If that does not help, try to fsck your EncFS partition. Unmount first.

I may try that later.  What puzzles me is that remounting without
reboot still came up read-only, even tho it had been read-write for 20
hours, and reboot came up read-write.

I wonder if some timeout feature was added to encfs or fuser, such that
if there is no activity for a certain time, it becomes read-only.  I
didn't see any such change in any release notes.  My little screen
jobis still creating files every minute, and will defeat any such
timeout, so there's something else to investigate later.

encfs was last emerged 14 March.  fuser was last emerged 23 Apr.  I
have rebooted several times since then, so I don't think either of
them had any sudden surprises left.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Curious hdparm results

2012-05-14 Thread walt
On 05/13/2012 02:00 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:28 PM, walt  wrote:
>> > I have a usb3 docking station which is showing some behavior I don't
>> > understand:
>> >
>> >  #hdparm -t /dev/sdc
>> >
>> > /dev/sdc:
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.01 seconds =  88.43 MB/sec
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.02 seconds =  88.10 MB/sec
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.01 seconds = 101.72 MB/sec
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.00 seconds =  88.59 MB/sec
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.00 seconds = 101.84 MB/sec
>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.00 seconds = 101.86 MB/sec
>> >
>> > That's all the same disk, repeating hdparm as fast as I could.  The
>> > disk was not even mounted at the time, and no other disks were active.
>> >
>> > Two very different but reproducible numbers, changing values at random
>> > times.  The only thing I can think of is that the disk may be doing
>> > a SMART self-test, but for some reason the USB connection prevents
>> > me from accessing the data so I can't test my theory.
>> >
>> > Any other ideas?

> bonnie++?

As Volker suggested, I'm not worried about this but I'm always up for
learning new stuff, so I tried bonnie++ on the machine's main hard
drive and on the outboard docking station (both Western Digital).

Here is bonnie's printout for each drive.  Can you tell which is which?
(They must have hired a special consultant to design the format ;)

Version  1.96   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency   1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
a6   7G   403  97 77669  10 36911   7  2820  83 104831  11 225.0   4
Latency 38221us1376ms 681ms   68894us 160ms 965ms
Version  1.96   --Sequential Create-- Random Create
a6  -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 17246  25 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
Latency  2363us 563us 653us 157us  10us 238us
1.96,1.96,a6,1,1337025021,7G,,403,97,77669,10,36911,7,2820,83,104831,11,225.0,4,16,17246,25,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,38221us,1376ms,681ms,68894us,160ms,965ms,2363us,563us,653us,157us,10us,238us



Version  1.96   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
Concurrency   1 -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
a6   7G   714  99 92174  11 24808   4  3938  96 112295  14 128.1   3
Latency 11493us1582ms 233ms   25883us   22036us5344ms
Version  1.96   --Sequential Create-- Random Create
a6  -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
Latency  2515us 517us2818us1271us  18us 293us
1.96,1.96,a6,1,1337028303,7G,,714,99,92174,11,24808,4,3938,96,112295,14,128.1,3,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,11493us,1582ms,233ms,25883us,22036us,5344ms,2515us,517us,2818us,1271us,18us,293us







[gentoo-user] Re: solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread walt
On 05/14/2012 06:08 AM, walt wrote:
> On 05/14/2012 03:49 AM, Space Cake wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl, but I'm 
>> lost.. any idea?
> 
> That problem drove me nuts for months.  I finally discovered by desperate
> trial and error that un-setting the 'curl' useflag fixes it.  Finally!

Sorry, I forgot that I also un-set the 'nss' and 'openssl' useflags.
Now I have only the gnutls useflag set. (I kept that one because the
gnutls is GPL, not because I think one is better that the others.)

The only thing I insist on being encrypted are ssl connections in firefox,
so my encryption needs are minimal, maybe less than yours.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Curious hdparm results

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 10:52 AM, walt  wrote:
> On 05/13/2012 02:00 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 4:28 PM, walt  wrote:
>>> > I have a usb3 docking station which is showing some behavior I don't
>>> > understand:
>>> >
>>> >  #hdparm -t /dev/sdc
>>> >
>>> > /dev/sdc:
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.01 seconds =  88.43 MB/sec
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.02 seconds =  88.10 MB/sec
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.01 seconds = 101.72 MB/sec
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 266 MB in  3.00 seconds =  88.59 MB/sec
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.00 seconds = 101.84 MB/sec
>>> >  Timing buffered disk reads: 306 MB in  3.00 seconds = 101.86 MB/sec
>>> >
>>> > That's all the same disk, repeating hdparm as fast as I could.  The
>>> > disk was not even mounted at the time, and no other disks were active.
>>> >
>>> > Two very different but reproducible numbers, changing values at random
>>> > times.  The only thing I can think of is that the disk may be doing
>>> > a SMART self-test, but for some reason the USB connection prevents
>>> > me from accessing the data so I can't test my theory.
>>> >
>>> > Any other ideas?
>
>> bonnie++?
>
> As Volker suggested, I'm not worried about this but I'm always up for
> learning new stuff, so I tried bonnie++ on the machine's main hard
> drive and on the outboard docking station (both Western Digital).
>
> Here is bonnie's printout for each drive.  Can you tell which is which?
> (They must have hired a special consultant to design the format ;)

Yeah, Bonnie++'s output format is a PITA in some environments. It's
just a table, but it's almost unreadable with variable-width type, and
it's worse when it wraps. I had to copy it into a text editor to be
able to read it.

>
> Version  1.96       --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- 
> --Random-
> Concurrency   1     -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- 
> --Seeks--
> Machine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec 
> %CP
> a6               7G   403  97 77669  10 36911   7  2820  83 104831  11 225.0  
>  4
> Latency             38221us    1376ms     681ms   68894us     160ms     965ms
> Version  1.96       --Sequential Create-- Random 
> Create
> a6                  -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- 
> -Delete--
>              files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
>                 16 17246  25 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
> Latency              2363us     563us     653us     157us      10us     238us
> 1.96,1.96,a6,1,1337025021,7G,,403,97,77669,10,36911,7,2820,83,104831,11,225.0,4,16,17246,25,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,38221us,1376ms,681ms,68894us,160ms,965ms,2363us,563us,653us,157us,10us,238us
>
>
>
> Version  1.96       --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- 
> --Random-
> Concurrency   1     -Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- 
> --Seeks--
> Machine        Size K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec 
> %CP
> a6               7G   714  99 92174  11 24808   4  3938  96 112295  14 128.1  
>  3
> Latency             11493us    1582ms     233ms   25883us   22036us    5344ms
> Version  1.96       --Sequential Create-- Random 
> Create
> a6                  -Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- 
> -Delete--
>              files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
>                 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
> Latency              2515us     517us    2818us    1271us      18us     293us
> 1.96,1.96,a6,1,1337028303,7G,,714,99,92174,11,24808,4,3938,96,112295,14,128.1,3,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,11493us,1582ms,233ms,25883us,22036us,5344ms,2515us,517us,2818us,1271us,18us,293us

I'd guess the second printout is the USB drive. It has a much higher
latency on the sequential input test. But that's the only big
difference I can spot.

And I'd disagree with Volker on the "It's USB..." assessment. USB3 is
a _very_ different animal from earlier versions. You get nice things
like DMA, and your CPU usage is far lower than USB2, since the CPU
doesn't have to poll the USB controller for status updates. Honestly,
I'm very impressed at how similar those two printouts look, stat wise.
It's a close call to be able to identify which is which, and I'm not
really confident I did.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Scherer

in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.
where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
top posting.
but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
to change my habits.
obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.

regards

michael

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phone: +43 6991 941 22 54

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2012 04:13
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails



A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:


regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o
should have been built, but it didn't.
sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless
to say without success.

thanks

michael

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phone: +43 6991 941 22 54

- Original Message - 
From: "walt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails


> On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
>>   LD  init/mounts.o
>> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o
>>   init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory
> 
> Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me.  Looks

> like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe?  Is that a cut-and-
> paste error?


Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

Terry






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: solving curl dependency issues

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 16:02:15 +0200
Space Cake  wrote:

> Removing keywords from curl produces this
> 
> brutal keywords # emerge --keep-going -upND world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> 
> emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy 
> "net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_nss]".
> !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo (Change USE: +curl_ssl_nss, this 
> change violates use flag constraints defined by 
> net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1: 'threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( 
> curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl 
> curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )')
> (dependency required by
> "net-libs/liboauth-0.9.6[curl,nss]" [installed]) (dependency required
> by
> "gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-3.2.3-r1[gnome-online-accounts]" 
> [installed])
> (dependency required by
> "gnome-extra/gnome-contacts-3.2.2" [installed]) (dependency required
> by "@selected" [set]) (dependency required by "@world" [argument])
> 
> 
> eix output:[I] net-misc/curl
>  Available versions:  7.21.4 (~)7.21.6 (~)7.21.7 (~)7.21.7-r2 
> (~)7.22.0 (~)7.23.1 7.24.0 (~)7.25.0 (~)7.25.0-r1 {ares
> curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_nss
> +curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_polarssl gnutls idn ipv6 kerberos ldap nss
> ssh ssl static-libs test threads}
>  Installed versions:  7.25.0-r1(12.34.47 
> 2012-05-14)(curl_ssl_openssl idn ipv6 ldap ssh ssl threads -ares 
> -curl_ssl_axtls -curl_ssl_cyassl -curl_ssl_gnutls -curl_ssl_nss 
> -curl_ssl_polarssl -kerberos -static-libs -test)
>  Homepage:http://curl.haxx.se/
>  Description: A Client that groks URLs
> 
> 
> So, this is asking for curl_ssl_nss,
> 
> But after I set this I'm getting this
> 
> brutal ~ # emerge --keep-going -upND world
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies /
> 
> !!! Problem resolving dependencies for net-misc/curl from @selected
> ... done!
> 
> !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "net-misc/curl" has unmet 
> requirements.
> - net-misc/curl-7.25.0-r1::gentoo USE="idn ipv6 ldap ssl threads
> -ares -kerberos -ssh -static-libs -test" CURL_SSL="nss openssl -axtls
> -cyassl -gnutls -polarssl"
> 
>   The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
> ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls curl_ssl_cyassl 
> curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss curl_ssl_polarssl ) )
> 
>   The above constraints are a subset of the following complete 
> expression:
> threads? ( !ares ) ssl? ( exactly-one-of ( curl_ssl_axtls 
> curl_ssl_cyassl curl_ssl_gnutls curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss 
> curl_ssl_polarssl ) )
> 
> (dependency required by "@selected" [set])
> (dependency required by "@world" [argument])
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2012. máj. 14., hétfő, 15.08.17 CEST, walt wrote:
> > On 05/14/2012 03:49 AM, Space Cake wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> For several weeks I'm trying to solve dependency issues with curl,
> >> but I'm lost.. any idea?
> >
> > That problem drove me nuts for months.  I finally discovered by
> > desperate trial and error that un-setting the 'curl' useflag fixes
> > it.  Finally!
> >
> >
> >
> 

The requirements are (from the error message):

If USE=ssl then use exactly one of the following:
  curl_ssl_axtls 
  curl_ssl_cyassl 
  curl_ssl_gnutls 
  curl_ssl_openssl 
  curl_ssl_nss  
  curl_ssl_polarssl 

You have the following set for curl (per eix):

curl_ssl_openssl 

But the error message also says that this is required:
net-misc/curl[ssl,curl_ssl_nss] by liboauth

You cannot have curl_ssl_nss and curl_ssl_openssl both set for curl as
liboauth complains

So, what you need to do is set 

USE="-curl_ssl_openssl curl_ssl_nss" for curl

If you read my post carefully and see how all the bits fit the output
you supplied, it all makes sense. Portage output is not exactly
intuitive but it can be understood. 

Or you could unset USE="curl" for liboauth.

I don't know if you'll be willing to switch from curl_ssl just to make
liboauth happy. That's your call. 

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:26:44 +0200
"Michael Scherer"  wrote:

> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.
> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
> top posting.
> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
> to change my habits.
> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.


That is rather rude and completely ignores the stated preference of
many other people who were here before you. They set the de-facto
standard, not you.

You are running the risk of being plonked which strikes me as being
silly. You post here to get good answers, not to be ignored.

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread ny6p01
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 05:26:44PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.
> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
> top posting.
> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
> to change my habits.
> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.
> 
> regards
> 
> michael
> 
> -- 
> Michael Scherer
> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie
> email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at
> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, 14 May, 2012 04:13
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
> 
> 
> > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> > 
> > On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:44:31AM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
> > 
> >> regrettably no. at this point make (correctly) assumes that mounts.o
> >> should have been built, but it didn't.
> >> sorry for my delayed replay, I've tried I lot of possibilities, needless
> >> to say without success.
> >> 
> >> thanks
> >> 
> >> michael
> >> 
> >> -- 
> >> Michael Scherer
> >> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie
> >> email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at
> >> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54
> >> 
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "walt" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, 12 May, 2012 20:17
> >> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails
> >> 
> >> 
> >> > On 05/10/2012 07:20 AM, Michael Scherer wrote:
> >> >>   LD  init/mounts.o
> >> >> ls -Al -m elf_x86_64 -r -o init/mounts.o init/do_mounts.o
> >> >>   init/do_mounts_initrd.o init/mounts.o: No such file or directory
> >> > 
> >> > Maybe that step is correct but it sure looks strange to me.  Looks
> >> > like 'ls' is being substituted for 'ld', maybe?  Is that a cut-and-
> >> > paste error?
> > 
> > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?

http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php

***

Below are a set of rules by which you should try and abide whenever posting
to a public area such as USENET or a mailing list.  They are designed with
one thing in mind: being polite to your fellow netizens.  Failure to do so
can make you look at best inconsiderate, if not plain stupid, or even lead
more "seasoned" netizens to believe that you're trolling (deliberately
stirring up a fuss in order to draw attention to yourself and/or start up a
fight - or flamefest).  In the long run you'll just get yourself PLONKED
(added to people's killfiles so they no longer have to read what you have to
say), which is fairly counter-productive if your intentions are worthy.

You can avoid yourself this embarrassment (and everybody else's displeasure)
by following the basic rules described here:

...

9. DO NOT TOP-POST and DO trim your replies!!! Top-posting is the annoying
practice of replying to a message by typing your response above that to
which you are responding.  This is a _Bad Thing_ because your readers will
have to scroll down and extract the essential of the existing thread in
order to grasp the context of your reply, and then scroll back up again to
read your reply.  Posting a "me too" comment at the bottom of a 100+ line
message is no better because people, have to scroll all the way down through
100+ lines they've already read in order to see your one-liner.  One word
comes to mind for that: frustrating.  The generally accepted "right way" of
doing things is called "inline posting", whereby you insert your comments
straight after that on which you are commenting, having stripped  
unnecessary text from the original quoted text.  The end result is something
which makes much more sense because it reads like a conversation.



Remember, in a list, you are not only writing for the person who you are
responding to.  You are posting for whoever may be interested in the topic. 
While I appreciate that you may not benefit from top posting since you know
the context, this is not true for someone who has linked to your message or
who is reading it days, weeks or years later.  :)

Terry



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Mon, May 14 2012, Michael Scherer wrote:

> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.
> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
> top posting.
> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
> to change my habits.
> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.

You have forgotten that gentoo-user is a valuable archive site.
I keep many old msgs to use much later.  At that point a top to bottom
reading order is preferred.

Moreover, those who are most helpful here all prefer bottom (or in-line)
posting.  If you shun the wishes of a majority of the group and a vast
majority of the most-helpful users, you fate is not flames but
"ignoredom".  That seems to be a poor idea.

Your call
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] libicui18n.so.49 troubles

2012-05-14 Thread Nilesh Govindrajan
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:56 PM, Markos Chandras  wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA512
>
> On 05/13/2012 06:05 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> On Sun, 13 May 2012 20:58:51 +0530, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote:
>>
>>> I had to mask icu-49 because some packages failed to compile
>>> during a world update.
>>
>> Same here, but the problems seem fixed now and I unmasked 49-r1 a
>> week or so ago.
>>
>>
> revdep-rebuild handles all packages except qt-core which you need to
> rebuild yourself. If you found a package that does not build with the
> new icu after running "revdep-rebuild && emerge -1 qt-core" file a bug
> report.
>
> - --
> Regards,
> Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-
> Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux)
>
> iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJPr+7VAAoJEPqDWhW0r/LCU40QAKDNvRiPawyKD/TyTHjF2Wsv
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> zXvqpDOLW87dFYXjE9k1Vn6CUzSHUZOYVtvJkbmvUl/rLp24rEq8L7MVACyHjLBQ
> UHWynw1INOLGLEOVEHFGKFxev4x1YvNQJnOtEj/4BncSeMMcK+Kceu4r5jV6Ehx2
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> KI/t3+Q/N+9TPy+V11Exm8+ApdZ8rFrmc5OKktJHJe9q8SNrKNLadHrxHO3T98Ro
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> -END PGP SIGNATURE-
>

Thanks for your replies guys. I'll try updating again, hopefully it
should solve the problem.

-- 
Nilesh Govindarajan
http://nileshgr.com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Dale
Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> On Mon, May 14 2012, Michael Scherer wrote:
> 
>> in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
>> immidiately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
>> huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.
>> where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
>> more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
>> top posting.
>> but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
>> to change my habits.
>> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
>> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.
> 
> You have forgotten that gentoo-user is a valuable archive site.
> I keep many old msgs to use much later.  At that point a top to bottom
> reading order is preferred.
> 
> Moreover, those who are most helpful here all prefer bottom (or in-line)
> posting.  If you shun the wishes of a majority of the group and a vast
> majority of the most-helpful users, you fate is not flames but
> "ignoredom".  That seems to be a poor idea.
> 
> Your call
> allan
> 
> 


I agree.  I have read even on here, been a while tho, where a email
address is blacklisted.  So OP, if you top post often enough then later
post a question, the person with the answer may never see your question
hence you will likely get no reply.   I have one person blacklisted
myself.  I have no clue if they come here or not.  It goes straight to
delete.  I think it bypasses the trash even.

For example:  Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters
on this list.  I will admit, if just Neil and Alan ignore your posts,
you got issues.  They are two VERY knowledgeable, and more importantly,
helpful people.  Most of their posts are helping others too, unlike some
of mine.   Another thing, they have been on this mailing for a long time
and they don't like top posting either if memory serves me well.  Me, I
will forgive if it is a cell phone thingy that can't be helped.
Otherwise, after a couple times, I'm not scrolling all over the place to
try to figure out what order the posts are in and all that.  I may not
blacklist but I will hit the "next" button.

OP.  You be well advised to reconsider.  Other wise, you will be on the
forums asking for help and in my opinion, this mailing list is the best
place for help.  Lifes full of choices tho.  Some good, some bad.

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2012-05-14 11:26 AM, Michael Scherer  wrote:

in my opinion it isn't. with top posting I see the newest message
immediately, while otherwise I need page through sometimes
huge amounts of mostly obsolete comments.


This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their 
quoted text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try 
bottom (aka inline) posting...



where it's possible, I put my messages on top, and I've found
more than once forum-rules that require or at least recommend
top posting.


This isn't one of them...


but I garantee that I will get flames, why I do this and urge me
to change my habits.
obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from
now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.


Then you will not get much help here and your participation will be null 
and void.


You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum 
you are participating in...


I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where 
that is the norm, so I just grin and bear it...




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:
> This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their quoted
> text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try bottom (aka
> inline) posting...
>
>
> You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum you
> are participating in...
>
> I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where that
> is the norm, so I just grin and bear it...
>

Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
change to bottom-posting on either client?

Thankfully, I don't go to any forums that enforce top-posting.  I
would probably get myself banned from all the complaining I would do.



[gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread James
Well,

I just got this new HP A8 laptop.

After setting up the default windows, I modified
the bios boot order to use the internal DVD. Then
I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
for about 5 minutes then silence?


Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.
It's been a few years since I installed Gentoo on
a laptop and lots has change. Right now, I'm downloading
the 12.1 liveDVD to see if it will boot that. Both
were the amd64-multilib version. The lived DVD work
on other (older) 64amd machines I have.
If not then its on to to knoppix or ubuntu to
see it will boot any linux distro.

Years ago, when I last did a dual boot install, there
was a windows method for shrinking the windows
partition. Then I repartitioned the drive and put
gentoo on those new partitions. Has that approached,
using grub changed?  The guides I seen to be finding
via google, look dated.

It a dv7 model AtB11UA (6C23CL?) from Costco. I got a week
or 2 to get the dual boot working correctly, or it
goes back to Costco; so any advice is welcome.


Any feedback is welcome. 




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates  wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:
>> This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their quoted
>> text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters try bottom (aka
>> inline) posting...
>>
>>
>> You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the forum you
>> are participating in...
>>
>> I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in where that
>> is the norm, so I just grin and bear it...
>>
>
> Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
> top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
> at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
> Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
> change to bottom-posting on either client?

In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to
navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to
the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario.


-- 
:wq



[gentoo-user] Re: HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread walt
On 05/14/2012 12:12 PM, James wrote:
> Well,
> 
> I just got this new HP A8 laptop.
> 
> After setting up the default windows, I modified
> the bios boot order to use the internal DVD. Then
> I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
> small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
> blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
> for about 5 minutes then silence?
> 
> 
> Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.
> It's been a few years since I installed Gentoo on
> a laptop and lots has change. Right now, I'm downloading
> the 12.1 liveDVD to see if it will boot that. Both
> were the amd64-multilib version. The lived DVD work
> on other (older) 64amd machines I have.
> If not then its on to to knoppix or ubuntu to
> see it will boot any linux distro.
> 
> Years ago, when I last did a dual boot install, there
> was a windows method for shrinking the windows partition.

Amazing but true.  In their help manual there is a section
about Disk Management, where you should see "Shrink a Basic
Volume".

> Then I repartitioned the drive and put
> gentoo on those new partitions. Has that approached,
> using grub changed?  The guides I seen to be finding
> via google, look dated.
> 
> I got a week
> or 2 to get the dual boot working correctly, or it
> goes back to Costco; so any advice is welcome.

For the same reason I decided to leave the factory boot block
alone and used the free downloadable BCDEdit utility to add
a second item to the Windows boot menu.  Really nifty, it
even lets you chainload grub from there.  When you install
grub, just remember to put its boot block on your gentoo
partition, not the Windows partition.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 14:11:25 -0500
Alecks Gates  wrote:

> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 1:25 PM, Tanstaafl
>  wrote:
> > This is only the case if the person who replies doesn't trim their
> > quoted text - which is often the case when brain-dead top-posters
> > try bottom (aka inline) posting...
> >
> >
> > You should always strive to adjust you habits to the rules of the
> > forum you are participating in...
> >
> > I loathe top-posting, but there are a few forums I participate in
> > where that is the norm, so I just grin and bear it...
> >
> 
> Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
> top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
> at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
> Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
> change to bottom-posting on either client?

So around here we say don't top post rather bottom bottom, but what we
actually mean is inline post with your contribution below the portion
you are replying to and extraneous bits of the quoted text removed.
Also liberal use of [snip] tags is encouraged.

We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on that
is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the smartphone users
often have no choice as it's impossible to do anything other than top
post on many devices (especially BlackBerrys). Such users should leave
the nice "Sent from my BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps
indicate you can't avoid the top-post.

All of these "rules" are like any other form of good manners - designed
to smooth communication and make it a pleasant thing to do. Just like
in real life, it's equally good manners to indicate up-front if you
can't do the norm. Example: some places it's expected that men stand up
when a lady enters the room. But not if the man has a broken leg, in
which case he should make sure the plaster cast and crutches can be
seen. 

See how it works? :-)


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500
Dale  wrote:

> For example:  Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters
> on this list.

Yo Dale,

You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-)

I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says
Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me
this year

[1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it



-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:

[snip]

> We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on that
> is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the smartphone users
> often have no choice as it's impossible to do anything other than top
> post on many devices (especially BlackBerrys). Such users should leave
> the nice "Sent from my BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps
> indicate you can't avoid the top-post.

You may have noticed I usually have ":wq" at the ends of my emails.
That's when I'm posting from, e.g. GMail's web app. When you see "ZZ",
that's my phone or tablet.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:01:59 -0400
Michael Mol  wrote:

> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Alan McKinnon
>  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > We generally tolerate gmail webapp users (trying to inline post on
> > that is hard to do but possible) and reluctantly accept the
> > smartphone users often have no choice as it's impossible to do
> > anything other than top post on many devices (especially
> > BlackBerrys). Such users should leave the nice "Sent from my
> > BlackBerry" comment at the bottom, it helps indicate you can't
> > avoid the top-post.
> 
> You may have noticed I usually have ":wq" at the ends of my emails.
> That's when I'm posting from, e.g. GMail's web app. When you see "ZZ",
> that's my phone or tablet.
> 

True's bob, whaddaya know. It's there right enough :-)

I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe.
It's spooky the way his fortunes work.

-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe.
> It's spooky the way his fortunes work.

They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence over
them.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 May 2012 17:26:44 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:

> obviously this is an ingrained habit on gentoo-users, but from

Not a habit, a preference grown from years of experience and the
practicalities of lists like this.

> now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames.

Do you act like that in real life? If you see a no smoking sign, do you
light up anyway because that's what you want to do and damn everyone else?

Help lists like this become significantly less useful once you are
killfiled for being an arrogant and ignorant .


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Re: [gentoo-user] I want to play movies without hangs [SOLVED, sort of]

2012-05-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:40 PM, Alex Schuster  wrote:
> Finally, I found something. It's Dolphin!
>
> I've done some longer testing, always playing the same video parallel
> with a dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/10G bs=1M count=1, in mplayer, for a
> minute, several times. When I do this by opening the file in Dolphin, I
> get about 15 interruptions, some for longer than a second. Started on the
> command line, there are very few, I can play the video for minutes
> without a gap. Hooray!
>
> In KDE, I usually play videos by opening them in Dolphin. I exchanged
> 'mplayer %U' by 'xterm -T MPLAYER -e mplayer %U' in the settings, now
> mplayer runs in a terminal, and all is fine. I created a window rule so
> the terminal automatically minimizes. Cool!
>
> It only happens in mplayer and mplayer2. Other players work fine, but I
> like mplayer best, and prefer to run it without any window decoration.
>
> Now, would this be an MPlayer problem, or one of Dolphin?

I wonder if Dolphin is generating thumbnails/preview indexes at the
same time you're trying to play, causing resource contention. I wonder
if you can disable thumbnail generation by Dolphin or remove the
association it has with video files and mplayer.



[gentoo-user] perl versioning problem, how to get beyond for @world

2012-05-14 Thread Harry Putnam
I have a light minimalish system (noX) and not a lot installed but for a the
last few weeks, when I try to update with emerge -vuD world

It caves about a perl versioning problem, and specifically about:
  perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0

Abbreviated output:
,
| >>> Emerging (1 of 12) perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0
|  * Module-Build-0.40.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256 size ;-) ...   
 
|   [ ok ]
| >>> cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Checksum index is up-to-date ...
| >>> Unpacking source...
| >>> Unpacking Module-Build-0.40.tar.gz to
| /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work
| >>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work
| >>> Preparing source in
| /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
| >>> Source prepared.
| >>> Configuring source in
| /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
|  * Using Module::Build
|  * perl Build.PL --installdirs=vendor --libdoc=
| --destdir=/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/ima
| ge/ --create_packlist=0
| *** BOOTSTRAPPING version ***
| Checking prerequisites...
|   build_requires:
| !  Parse::CPAN::Meta (1.40) is installed, but we need version >=
| 1.4401
| ERRORS/WARNINGS FOUND IN PREREQUISITES.  You may wish to install the versions
| of the modules indicated above before proceeding with this installation
| 
| Could not create MYMETA files
| Creating new 'Build' script for 'Module-Build' version '0.40'
| Copied META.yml to MYMETA.yml for bootstrapping
| 
| These additional prerequisites must be installed:
|   requires:
| ! version (we need version 0.87)
| >>> Source configured.
| >>> Compiling source in
| /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
| version version 0.87 required--this is only version 0.82 at
| /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/Module/Metadata
| .pm line 20.
| [...]
`

I can't really see what to do about this...

What is installed is:

,
| # eix -Ic|grep  Parse.*Meta
| [I] perl-core/Parse-CPAN-Meta (1.440.400@05/03/12): Parse META.yml and other
| similar CPAN metadata files
| [I] virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta (1.440.400@04/25/12): Virtual for 
Parse-CPAN-Meta
`




Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only

2012-05-14 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM,   wrote:
>
> It's a reiserfs, and df -i shows zeroes; I had never given any thought
> to reiserfs and inodes.  Interesting.

I thought reiserfs allocated new inodes as needed, with no practical limit.



Re: [gentoo-user] perl versioning problem, how to get beyond for @world

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 18:58:29 -0400
Harry Putnam  wrote:

> I have a light minimalish system (noX) and not a lot installed but
> for a the last few weeks, when I try to update with emerge -vuD world
> 
> It caves about a perl versioning problem, and specifically about:
>   perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0
> 
> Abbreviated output:
> ,
> | >>> Emerging (1 of 12) perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0
> |  * Module-Build-0.40.tar.gz RMD160 SHA1 SHA256
> size ;-) ... |   [ ok ]
> | >>> cfg-update-1.8.2-r1: Checksum index is up-to-date ...
> | >>> Unpacking source...
> | >>> Unpacking Module-Build-0.40.tar.gz to
> | /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work
> | >>> Source unpacked
> in /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work | >>>
> Preparing source in
> | /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
> | >>> Source prepared. | >>> Configuring source in
> | /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
> |  * Using Module::Build
> |  * perl Build.PL --installdirs=vendor --libdoc=
> | --destdir=/var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/ima
> | ge/ --create_packlist=0
> | *** BOOTSTRAPPING version ***
> | Checking prerequisites...
> |   build_requires:
> | !  Parse::CPAN::Meta (1.40) is installed, but we need version >=
> | 1.4401
> | ERRORS/WARNINGS FOUND IN PREREQUISITES.  You may wish to install
> the versions | of the modules indicated above before proceeding with
> this installation | 
> | Could not create MYMETA files
> | Creating new 'Build' script for 'Module-Build' version '0.40'
> | Copied META.yml to MYMETA.yml for bootstrapping
> | 
> | These additional prerequisites must be installed:
> |   requires:
> | ! version (we need version 0.87)
> | >>> Source configured.
> | >>> Compiling source in
> | /var/tmp/portage/perl-core/Module-Build-0.400.0/work/Module-Build-0.40 ...
> | version version 0.87 required--this is only version 0.82 at
> | /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.12.4/Module/Metadata
> | .pm line 20.
> | [...]
> `
> 
> I can't really see what to do about this...
> 
> What is installed is:
> 
> ,
> | # eix -Ic|grep  Parse.*Meta
> | [I] perl-core/Parse-CPAN-Meta (1.440.400@05/03/12): Parse META.yml
> and other | similar CPAN metadata files
> | [I] virtual/perl-Parse-CPAN-Meta (1.440.400@04/25/12): Virtual for
> Parse-CPAN-Meta `

Perl and any package manager tend to make an ugly combination...

Now, I've never seen this specific error before but it looks like perl
thinks your installed Parse-CPAN-Meta is still the old version 1.40. It
doesn't realize what portage did in the interim.

Have a look in that ebuild and 1.440.400 and you'll see quite a
difference.

Does unmerging and remerging Parse-CPAN-Meta fix anything?

-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:53:40 +0100
Neil Bothwick  wrote:

> On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> > I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe.
> > It's spooky the way his fortunes work.
> 
> They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence
> over them.
> 
> 

Piffle :-)

Spooky action at a distance, that's what it is!

-- 
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alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe.
>> It's spooky the way his fortunes work.
>
> They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence over
> them.
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

Spooky indeed.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Michael Mol
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 22:53:40 +0100
> Neil Bothwick  wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 14 May 2012 23:24:57 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> > I still think Neil has the best sigs in the entire universe.
>> > It's spooky the way his fortunes work.
>>
>> They're totally random and chosen by software, I have no influence
>> over them.
>
> Piffle :-)
>
> Spooky action at a distance, that's what it is!

I do believe you're overestimating the gravity of the situation.

-- 
:wq



Re: [gentoo-user] Encfs suddenly read-only

2012-05-14 Thread felix
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 06:00:11PM -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 9:47 AM,   wrote:
> >
> > It's a reiserfs, and df -i shows zeroes; I had never given any thought
> > to reiserfs and inodes. ?Interesting.
> 
> I thought reiserfs allocated new inodes as needed, with no practical limit.

Yes, but it's been so long since I knew that off the top of my head that it was 
surprising to see '0' fropm df -i.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 15, 2012 2:16 AM, "Alecks Gates"  wrote:
>
> Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
> top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
> at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
> Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
> change to bottom-posting on either client?
>
> Thankfully, I don't go to any forums that enforce top-posting.  I
> would probably get myself banned from all the complaining I would do.
>

Android user here!

With the Android Gmail client, tap on "Respond inline", swipe up
repeatedly, and tap on the blank line underneath the message.

I found Swype (the virtual keyboard) to be most helpful when trimming
fluff; it has honest-to-goodness cursor keys (including PgUp and PgDn), and
a *very* helpful "Select Text" button to start selection.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol"  wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates  wrote:
> >
> > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
> > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
> > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
> > Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
> > change to bottom-posting on either client?
>
> In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to
> navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to
> the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario.
>

Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\

Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted
before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called
"Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or bottom
most) line.

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Alecks Gates
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Pandu Poluan  wrote:
>
> On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol"  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates  wrote:
>> >
>> > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
>> > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
>> > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
>> > Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
>> > change to bottom-posting on either client?
>>
>> In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to
>> navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to
>> the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario.
>>
>
> Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\
>
> Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted
> before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called
> "Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or bottom
> most) line.
>
> Rgds,

I've been quite set on my hardware keyboard for a while now (HTC G2).
But perhaps I'll try out Swype eventually



Re: [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread ny6p01
On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 07:12:34PM +, James wrote:
> Well,
> 
> I just got this new HP A8 laptop.
> 
> After setting up the default windows, I modified
> the bios boot order to use the internal DVD. Then
> I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
> small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
> blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
> for about 5 minutes then silence?
> 
> 
> Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.
> It's been a few years since I installed Gentoo on
> a laptop and lots has change. Right now, I'm downloading
> the 12.1 liveDVD to see if it will boot that. Both
> were the amd64-multilib version. The lived DVD work
> on other (older) 64amd machines I have.
> If not then its on to to knoppix or ubuntu to
> see it will boot any linux distro.
> 
> Years ago, when I last did a dual boot install, there
> was a windows method for shrinking the windows
> partition. Then I repartitioned the drive and put
> gentoo on those new partitions. Has that approached,
> using grub changed?  The guides I seen to be finding
> via google, look dated.
> 
> It a dv7 model AtB11UA (6C23CL?) from Costco. I got a week
> or 2 to get the dual boot working correctly, or it
> goes back to Costco; so any advice is welcome.

You can install Gentoo using any linux live CD. I recommend the minimal
install CD. There's not much it won't boot on. ;)

Terry



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Pandu Poluan
On May 15, 2012 7:11 AM, "Alecks Gates"  wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, Pandu Poluan  wrote:
> >
> > On May 15, 2012 2:27 AM, "Michael Mol"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Alecks Gates 
wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Personally, gmail has given me a bad habit.  It defaults to
> >> > top-posting in the web client, which I don't see how to change.  But
> >> > at least on the desktop I can easily move formatting around.  On the
> >> > Android client it seems rather archaic.  Does anyone know how to
> >> > change to bottom-posting on either client?
> >>
> >> In Android, you can press "Reply in-line", but then you've got to
> >> navigate potentially large email threads using a tiny screen to get to
> >> the right place to reply. It's an ugly scenario.
> >>
> >
> > Meh, just saw your post and realized you've beaten me :-\
> >
> > Again, please allow me to plug the goodness of Swype... like I posted
> > before, it has *complete* cursor keys. Plus one very powerful key called
> > "Cursor Jump" that allows one to very quickly go to the topmost (or
bottom
> > most) line.
> >
> > Rgds,
>
> I've been quite set on my hardware keyboard for a while now (HTC G2).
> But perhaps I'll try out Swype eventually
>

You can still use the hardware keyboard, after using Swype to mangle the
replied-to email :-)

Rgds,


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make of gentoo-sources-3.2.12 fails

2012-05-14 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Mon, 14 May 2012 12:13:18 -0500
> Dale  wrote:
> 
>> For example:  Alan, Mike, Pandu, Mark, Neil and me are the top posters
>> on this list.
> 
> Yo Dale,
> 
> You might want to re-calibrate your stats engine :-)
> 
> I've been quiet for a while (getting old...)[1] and fifty bucks says
> Michael, Canek, Pandu and a couple more have all posted more than me
> this year
> 
> [1] Well, that's my story and I'm sticking with it
> 
> 
> 


Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:

http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml

I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho.
Someone put alum in your water or something?

ROFL

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread Stroller

On 14 May 2012, at 20:12, James wrote:
> …
> I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
> small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
> blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
> for about 5 minutes then silence?
> 
> Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.

I boot from a SystemRescueCD and follow the Gentoo quick install guide.

This has never failed me.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread ny6p01
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 01:27:25AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
> 
> On 14 May 2012, at 20:12, James wrote:
> > ?
> > I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
> > small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
> > blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
> > for about 5 minutes then silence?
> > 
> > Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.
> 
> I boot from a SystemRescueCD and follow the Gentoo quick install guide.
> 
> This has never failed me.
> 
> Stroller.

The QIG is for 'experts.' I don't know what the OP's level of expertise with
Gentoo is, but you can easily lose your way with the QIG if you don't know
what you're doing. JMHO!

The official Install Guide has never failed me using the minimal install CD.
You can really use any CD you have, the process stays the same.

Terry

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Re: [gentoo-user] merging or fitting images together

2012-05-14 Thread Philip Webb
I tried Hugin, but got nowhere.  I set  6  points on each picture,
which are  2  overlapping parts of a single original negative,
but all it offered was a black screen; I did follow the on-line help.

Then I tried Imagemagick & got a good result after a bit of fussing.
The commands I used were

  convert -size 1000x760 canvas:black brum-canvas.jpg
  composite -geometry +0+0 brum-3070.jpg brum-canvas.jpg brum-1.jpg
  composite -geometry +220-8 brum-3068.jpg brum-1.jpg brum-2.jpg

You can see the images at  http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~purslow/test/ :
they are of trams in Colmore Row, Birmingham in May 1953 .

I still need to light/darken  1  image a bit to hide the join,
but as a proof of concept this shows it's feasible with Imagemagick.

Any further advice re Hugin is welcome: can anyone do it with these photos ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] HP A8 laptop install

2012-05-14 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 15 May 2012 01:27:25 Stroller wrote:
> On 14 May 2012, at 20:12, James wrote:
> > …
> > I  inserted a 12.0 lived DVD. It put for
> > small gentoo symbols across the top, then went
> > blank after 3 minutes. The DVD drive was very active
> > for about 5 minutes then silence?
> > 
> > Any suggestions or install guides are most welcome.
> 
> I boot from a SystemRescueCD and follow the Gentoo quick install guide.
> 
> This has never failed me.

+1 for the SystemRescueCD which tends to be kept more up to date that the 
Gentoo LiveCD used to be.

If there is a possibility of having to re-expand the MSWindows partition and 
taking it back to Costco I would recommend reading an old thread of mine here:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/226452/focus=226560


If you don't want to read the whole thread, you'll have to at least read this 
message where I explain how to edit the MSWindows boot menu:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/226452/focus=226560


Unlike other bootloaders it does not interfere much with the original 
installation and you can easily reverse the edits in the MSWindows boot menu 
and re-expand the original partition before you return the laptop to Costco.

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