Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 24 April 2012 02:41:49 Walter Dnes wrote:

>   You seem to be sending multipart/alternative.  I didn't even notice
> that there was any HTML.  Here is what mutt shows when I ask it to
> view attachments...

I've finally found what I think was the culprit - a menu option hidden in 
the composer window. "Formatting (HTML)" was enabled. Not by me, I 
hasten to add. It isn't now.

Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired effect? Many 
thanks.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Neil Bothwick]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 01:19:12 +0100, David W Noon wrote:

> > > Claws-mail also has that option, but it applies globally, and there
> > > are some email messages I receive (mostly marketing related) where
> > > HTML gives added value.  Consequently, I would have to keep
> > > reconfiguring Claws to exclude/permit HTML as I change folders.  
> > 
> > Or just click on the button to display the HTML version on the small
> > number of mails that justify it.  
> 
> That would require action per message instead of per folder; not an
> improvement.

It works for me, because very few HTML mails I receive are worth reading,
let alone reading in HTML, and it is a lot quicker than continually
changing settings. But I agree, a per-folder setting for this would be
useful. I wonder if it could be done with folder processing, changing the
default when you enter or leave a folder, but that is both wildly
speculative and OT.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Postgres suddenly can't access files in its /etc directory

[napalm]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:27:22AM +0100, Graham Murray wrote:
> nap...@squareownz.org writes:
> 
> > Postgres doesn't have a home directory and if I create one and chown it
> > postgres:postgres I still can't do anything. I'm totally at a loss here.
> 
> Postgres should have a home directory - /var/lib/postgresql
> 
> If you run su - postgres, this is the directory you should be in.
> 
Ah okay, I've changed it back to this then. I do indeed enter there now.
I've emerged it without threads or pam as I suspected it may have been
either of them but that hasn't seemed to solve much of anything.

The current error I'm getting is:
# /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.1 start
 * Starting PostgreSQL ...
 * start-stop-daemon: did not create a valid pid in
 * `/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data/postmaster.pid'
 * Check the PostgreSQL 9.1 log for a detailed explanation of the
 * above error.[ !! ]

Which is what happens when start-stop-daemon fails to execute its
command. I'm not entirely sure what start-stop-daemon is or what
permissions it may need or be missing so I'm about to look into that.

I seem to be getting somewhere at least.

Thanks again for the help!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Michael Mol]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 3:36 AM, Peter Humphrey
 wrote:
> On Tuesday 24 April 2012 02:41:49 Walter Dnes wrote:
>
>>   You seem to be sending multipart/alternative.  I didn't even notice
>> that there was any HTML.  Here is what mutt shows when I ask it to
>> view attachments...
>
> I've finally found what I think was the culprit - a menu option hidden in
> the composer window. "Formatting (HTML)" was enabled. Not by me, I
> hasten to add. It isn't now.
>
> Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired effect? Many
> thanks.

Confirmed.
-- 
:wq

[gentoo-user] emerge w3m failed

[wenpin cui]

hi, all,

I tried to emerge www-client/w3m but failed, does anybody have met this
problem?

This is build log:
istream.h:23:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct file_handle’
/usr/include/bits/fcntl.h:254:8: note: originally defined here
main.c: In function ‘cmd_loadURL’:
main.c:4016:8: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, declared 
with attribute warn_unused_result
main.c: In function ‘followA’:
main.c:2979:8: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, declared 
with attribute warn_unused_result
main.c: In function ‘editScr’:
main.c:2648:11: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, 
declared with attribute warn_unused_result
main.c: In function ‘editBf’:
main.c:2625:11: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, 
declared with attribute warn_unused_result
main.c: In function ‘execsh’:
main.c:2104:8: warning: ignoring return value of ‘system’, declared 
with attribute warn_unused_result
make: *** [main.o] Error 1
emake failed
 * ERROR: www-client/w3m-0.5.2-r4 failed (compile phase):
 *   emake failed
 * 
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line  85:  Called src_compile
 *   environment, line 1879:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake -j1 || die "emake failed"
-- 

Best regards

Re: [gentoo-user] sys-libs/glibc-2.15-r1

[Alan McKinnon]

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 11:18:40 +0800
kwk...@hkbn.net wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:12:48 +0700
> Pandu Poluan  wrote:
> 
> > On Apr 23, 2012 1:09 AM, "Volker Armin Hemmann"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Am Sonntag, 22. April 2012, 19:52:16 schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger:
> > > > Just browsed the changelog of glibc-2.15:
> > > >
> > > > http://sourceware.org/ml/libc-alpha/2012-03/msg00836.html
> > > >
> > > > When I read the NEWS section there with all that "optimized"
> > > > stuff I wonder if it makes any sense to rebuild packages here
> > > > after upgrading
> > glibc?
> > > >
> > >
> > > no, because it is a library. You make use of it anyway.
> > >
> > 
> > What about statically linked packages?
> > 
> > Rgds,
> 
> Bless those who keeps on telling people there is no need to rebuild
> packages after glibc upgrade, for they must have not used pam or any
> other packages that uses dlopen().

To be fair, a complete rebuild of everything is a relatively huge
task and usually a waste if done routinely.

glibc is never downgraded in any sane system, only upgraded.
The glibc ABI and API hardly ever take anything away, just add new
stuff. Imagine if glibc behaved like boost wrt API changes 

So leaving everything else intact after upgrading linux-headers and/or
glibc gives a system that tends to do exactly what it did before and is
in no way broken. Sure, one can rebuild all of world at one's leisure
to take advantage of any new features those packages give, but it is
not *required*

This latest pam nonsense is a very rare event. I really don't feel like
doing massive rebuilds routinely to maybe catch rare events...


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[David W Noon]

On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 05:41:19 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered:

> On Tuesday 24 April 2012 01:21:33 David W Noon wrote:
> > On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:59:01 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote
> > > Plain text is what I have always specified. Kmail seems to want to
> > > override my preferences.
> > 
> > Try under the "Security" option of KMail Settings.
> 
> That's the only reference I can find to HTML, and it is not selected
> nor ever has been.

I'll see if I can reproduce the problem here.  It's just that I find
KDE 4.8 to be extremely flakey and KMail even flakier, so I'll need to
do some cleaning up of my configuration just to get KMail to run.
-- 
Regards,

Dave  [RLU #314465]
==
dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
==


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ [error: conflicting types for 'Cursor' on emerge]

[Daniel Ibn Zayd]

> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:46:31 -0700, walt wrote:
>> On 04/23/2012 08:09 AM, Daniel Ibn Zayd wrote:
>>> I've been waiting for pango 1.30 to become available and this morning
>>> on syncing noticed that everything was emerge-able (28 or so items),
>>> so I updatedlast on that list were gtk+ and image magick.
>>> 
>>> Everything went fine until I got to gtk+; it's giving me the
>>> following error. I've tried looking up the error, and see something
>>> about conflicting X11 and Darwinbut I can't quite figure out how
>>> to go about fixing this from within portageAny help is
>>> appreciated!
>>> 
>>> ___
>>> 
>>> In file included from /opt/Gentoo/usr/include/X11/Xlib.h:44, from
>>> ../gdk/x11/gdkx.h:30, from gtkapplication.c:48: 
>>> /opt/Gentoo/usr/include/X11/X.h:103: error: conflicting types for
>>> 'Cursor' 
>>> /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Frameworks/QD.framework/Headers/Quickdraw.h:278:
>>> error: previous declaration of 'Cursor' was here gtkapplication.c: In
>>> function 'gtk_application_startup_quartz':
>> 
>> I know nothing about Darwin, so I'm asking instead of answering :)
>> 
>> It appears that you are installing gentoo as a virtual machine to be
>> run from inside of Darwin, is that how it works?
>> 
>> 


Yes, more like its own shell/compiler environment. I tried both fink and 
macports to deal with packages on some old Macs; the problem with fink (which I 
had no real problem with otherwise) is that it wasn't obvious how to keep 
packages separate from the System stuff (like the System Perl), so I had a 
nightmare dealing with a different Perl version, plus CPAN, plus fink, and they 
didn't want to get along so well; macports did crazy stuff like make itself 
owner of apps and member of groups; again, a serious problem with boundaries. 
Gentoo took a while to get installed, but I'm really happy that everything is 
living in its own spaceit comes with its own shell and basic apps and Perl 
and and andso I don't have to worry that I'm going to mess up my basic OSX 
system. 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Allan Gottlieb]

On Tue, Apr 24 2012, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> On Tuesday 24 April 2012 02:41:49 Walter Dnes wrote:
>
>>   You seem to be sending multipart/alternative.  I didn't even notice
>> that there was any HTML.  Here is what mutt shows when I ask it to
>> view attachments...
>
> I've finally found what I think was the culprit - a menu option hidden in 
> the composer window. "Formatting (HTML)" was enabled. Not by me, I 
> hasten to add. It isn't now.
>
> Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired effect? Many 
> thanks.

Success.  Just text.
thanks,
allan

[gentoo-user] portage slang - interpreter sought

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

a package at its 101st alpha version must be a bit crazy
but it's probably me.

Trying to emerge dev-python/xhtml2pdf I get the following message
which I don't understand. They must be new in portage-2.2.0_alpha101 :

!!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "dev-python/xhtml2pdf" has unmet  
requirements.
- dev-python/xhtml2pdf-0.0.3::gentoo USE="(multilib)"  
PYTHON_TARGETS="-python2_5 -python2_6 -python2_7"


  The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
any-of ( python_targets_python2_5 python_targets_python2_6  
python_targets_python2_7 )


The package has been installed on 01/30/2012 for the first time but I  
cannot reinstall it

anymore.

Normally all packages are installed for python:2.7 and python:3.2 here,  
but this package

seems to require python < 3.0 . Still, what can I do about it?

Or is it an 'alpha feature' of portage?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] portage slang - interpreter sought

[Pandu Poluan]

On Apr 24, 2012 8:11 PM, "Helmut Jarausch" 
wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> a package at its 101st alpha version must be a bit crazy
> but it's probably me.
>
> Trying to emerge dev-python/xhtml2pdf I get the following message
> which I don't understand. They must be new in portage-2.2.0_alpha101 :
>
> !!! The ebuild selected to satisfy "dev-python/xhtml2pdf" has unmet
requirements.
> - dev-python/xhtml2pdf-0.0.3::gentoo USE="(multilib)"
PYTHON_TARGETS="-python2_5 -python2_6 -python2_7"
>
>  The following REQUIRED_USE flag constraints are unsatisfied:
>any-of ( python_targets_python2_5 python_targets_python2_6
python_targets_python2_7 )
>
> The package has been installed on 01/30/2012 for the first time but I
cannot reinstall it
> anymore.
>
> Normally all packages are installed for python:2.7 and python:3.2 here,
but this package
> seems to require python < 3.0 . Still, what can I do about it?
>
> Or is it an 'alpha feature' of portage?
>
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
>

The package wants you to specify which Python to target.

Try:

PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" emerge dev-python/xhtml2pdf

Rgds,

Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot

[Zhang Jun]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 12:57 AM, Michael Scherer <
a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:

> **
> unless you have solved the problem already, could you please
> post the rc.log, too?
>
> michael
>
> --
> Michael Scherer
> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie
> email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at
> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Zhang Jun 
> *To:* gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> *Sent:* Monday, 23 April, 2012 03:50
> *Subject:* Re: [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
>
> I get the dmesg log and kernel config, forgot to get the rc.log ( using
> windows now ).
> please help to have a look on these files,
> also tryed boot with different kernel parameters for acpi, only acpi=off
> works, but I don't think it is a good idea.
> I'm using grub4dos with "kernel (hd0,7)/kernel-3.0.17-r1 root=/dev/sda9 ro
> quiet vga=792 gentoo=nodevfs acpi_enforce_resources=lax
> resume=swap:/dev/sda7", remove the "acpi_enforce_resources=lax" also not
> works.
>
> thanks!
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 2:53 AM, Michael Scherer <
> a6702...@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:
>
>> **
>> did you look at the logs? if you haven't already looked at them dmesg and
>> /var/log/rc.log
>> have information that could help you pinpoint the problem.
>> one of the earlier live-cds had that problem and I got around it by
>> starting the the cd with
>> "gentoo noacpi nox" options though I doubt this can help in your case.
>> could you provide some more information like the logs, the loader conf
>> files and may be
>> .config of your kernel make?
>>
>> michael
>>
>> --
>> Michael Scherer
>> Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie
>> email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at
>> phone: +43 6991 941 22 54
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* Zhang Jun 
>> *To:* gentoo-user 
>> *Sent:* Sunday, 22 April, 2012 08:25
>> *Subject:* [gentoo-user] laptop screen goes dark in boot
>>
>> laptop: asus F3TC, amd Turion, NV-go7300
>> kernel-3.0.17-r1 tuxonice
>>
>> screen goes dark just after I see the linux boot logo,
>> when using kernel 2.6.x, I even do not use hotkey to control lcd
>> backlight, default light is ok,
>> but now, it goes dark, re-compiled kernel many times, but no luck,
>>
>> in kernel acpi config page, I did't see the "video" module, and seems no
>> /proc/acpi/video/ .
>>
>> is there anyone have met this problem and have solution ?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>>
> sorry, I didn't get time to test these ideads,

I just turn on /etc/r.conf 'rc_logger="YES"', here is rc.log


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 24 April 2012 14:03:38 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24 2012, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired
> > effect? Many thanks.
> 
> Success.  Just text.
> thanks,
> allan

Thank you both. I dare say we're all glad that's finally fixed!

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgres suddenly can't access files in its /etc directory

[Michael Orlitzky]

On 04/24/12 05:31, nap...@squareownz.org wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 06:27:22AM +0100, Graham Murray wrote:
>> nap...@squareownz.org writes:
>>
>>> Postgres doesn't have a home directory and if I create one and chown it
>>> postgres:postgres I still can't do anything. I'm totally at a loss here.
>>
>> Postgres should have a home directory - /var/lib/postgresql
>>
>> If you run su - postgres, this is the directory you should be in.
>>
> Ah okay, I've changed it back to this then. I do indeed enter there now.
> I've emerged it without threads or pam as I suspected it may have been
> either of them but that hasn't seemed to solve much of anything.
> 
> The current error I'm getting is:
> # /etc/init.d/postgresql-9.1 start
>  * Starting PostgreSQL ...
>  * start-stop-daemon: did not create a valid pid in
>  * `/var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data/postmaster.pid'
>  * Check the PostgreSQL 9.1 log for a detailed explanation of the
>  * above error.[ !! ]
> 
> Which is what happens when start-stop-daemon fails to execute its
> command. I'm not entirely sure what start-stop-daemon is or what
> permissions it may need or be missing so I'm about to look into that.
> 

Is everything under (and including) /var/lib/postgresql owned by
postgres:postgres?

  ~ # ls /var/lib/postgresql/9.1
  total 4.0K
  drwx-- 13 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-23 18:58 data

  ~ # ls /var/lib/postgresql/9.1/data/
  total 1.2M
  -rw--- 1 postgres postgres4 2012-02-14 00:14 PG_VERSION
  drwx-- 7 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-23 10:31 base
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-23 18:59 global
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-02-14 00:14 pg_clog
  drwx-- 4 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-02-14 00:14 pg_multixact
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-23 18:58 pg_notify
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-02-14 00:14 pg_serial
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-24 09:57 pg_stat_tmp
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-20 13:42 pg_subtrans
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-02-14 00:14 pg_tblspc
  drwx-- 2 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-02-14 00:14 pg_twophase
  drwx-- 3 postgres postgres 4.0K 2012-04-23 11:36 pg_xlog
  -rw--- 1 postgres postgres 1.1M 2012-04-24 09:55 postmaster.log
  -rw--- 1 postgres postgres  134 2012-04-23 18:58 postmaster.opts
  -rw--- 1 postgres postgres   92 2012-04-23 18:58 postmaster.pid

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Kenny Cheng]

Hi,

According to the genkernel.log, it would be the problem that someone posted
on forum with solution.
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858613-highlight-.html

Just a word, I have been using genkernel for years and satisfy with it.

--
Regards,
Kenny Cheng


On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Michael Mol  wrote:

> So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I
> really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own
> initramfs, and udev >= 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my
> systems ready before that.
>
> Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the
> command I need to run is:
>
> genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs
>
> and then add the initramfs to my grub setup.
>
> The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in
> #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues:
>
> 13:34 <+DrEeevil> that shouldn't even be possible
> 13:36 <+DrEeevil> mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system
>
> I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a
> bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says
> not to file build errors as bug reports.
>
> So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is
> still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel
> working.
>
> I've attached genkernel.log
>
> --
> :wq
>

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale  wrote:
> Michael Mol wrote:
> To the OP.  I would use dracut.  I ran into trouble but I found out
> later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
> init thingy to mess up.  I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
> rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time.  My
> previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
> Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it.  Grub was telling
> one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else.  I'm
> sure it was a nice fight.

The principal reason I'm not using dracut:

* sys-kernel/dracut
 Available versions:  ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
 Homepage:http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
 Description: Generic initramfs generation tool

None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand, has.

-- 
:wq

Re: [gentoo-user] pambase/shadow warning

[felix]

In my case, I did see the new /etc/pam.d/._ files and renamed them,
but cron began banging out PAM complaints and I didn't notice until
the overnight jobs had not run.  /etc/init.d/vixie-cron restart seems
to have solved that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale  wrote:
>> Michael Mol wrote:
>> To the OP.  I would use dracut.  I ran into trouble but I found out
>> later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
>> init thingy to mess up.  I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
>> rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time.  My
>> previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
>> Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it.  Grub was telling
>> one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else.  I'm
>> sure it was a nice fight.
>
> The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
>
> * sys-kernel/dracut
>     Available versions:  ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
> ~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
> dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
> dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
> dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
> dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
> dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
> dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
> dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
>     Homepage:            http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
>     Description:         Generic initramfs generation tool
>
> None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand, 
> has.

That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
initramfs because "udev >= 181 will eventually hit stable". That for
sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.

I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
your previous entry.

Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
genkernel.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Dale]

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale  wrote:
>>> Michael Mol wrote:
>>> To the OP.  I would use dracut.  I ran into trouble but I found out
>>> later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
>>> init thingy to mess up.  I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
>>> rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time.  My
>>> previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
>>> Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it.  Grub was telling
>>> one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else.  I'm
>>> sure it was a nice fight.
>>
>> The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
>>
>> * sys-kernel/dracut
>> Available versions:  ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
>> ~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
>> dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
>> dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
>> dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
>> dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
>> dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
>> dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
>> dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
>> Homepage:http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
>> Description: Generic initramfs generation tool
>>
>> None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand, 
>> has.
> 
> That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
> initramfs because "udev >= 181 will eventually hit stable". That for
> sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.
> 
> I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
> initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
> entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
> your previous entry.
> 
> Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
> stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
> genkernel.
> 
> Regards.


I was thinking the same thing.  As everyone knows, I did my switch a
week or so ago.  I found it funny that someone wants to get ahead of the
future without using future tools.  Of course, there is more than one
way to skin this cat too.  ;-)

I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages.  It's been
a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably.
It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed.  I got
the old blinky keyboard lights treatment.  :/

Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work.
 I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not
stable.  That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus
no telling how many other deps that got pulled in.

Time to eat.  That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back.  After
a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry.  I actually went
outside yesterday.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Michael Scherer]

So you solved it.
It would be nice then to adorn your subject lines with a [solved] tag,
to avoid further getting mails with comments that are obsolete.

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- Original Message - 
From: "Dale" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2012 01:43
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs



Michael Scherer wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:01:09 -0500
Dale  wrote:


Michael Scherer wrote:

On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500
Dale  wrote:


Michael Mol wrote:

So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I
really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my
own initramfs, and udev >= 181 will eventually hit stable. I want
my systems ready before that.

Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like
the command I need to run is:

genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs

and then add the initramfs to my grub setup.

The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in
#gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues:

13:34 <+DrEeevil> that shouldn't even be possible
13:36 <+DrEeevil> mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on
your system

I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file
a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically
says not to file build errors as bug reports.

So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut
is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel
working.

I've attached genkernel.log




If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still
support /usr without a init thingy.  After all the mess I went
through, we may not need the init thingy after all.

Go figure.

Dale

:-)  :-)



I wouldn't bet on that.

But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs
that does just that: load /usr.
http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting
It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you
have an initramfs.
There's also a more general introduction
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs
for a lot of other options

michael





I'm not betting on it but that is what the Gentoo council voted on and
it said that /usr on a separate partition was going to be supported.

You must have missed the HUGE thread where I was trying to get a init
thingy to work huh?

Dale

:-)  :-)



Indeed, I missed all but one email, but there was no hint
at all that anything had been said before I came in.
Sorry for my unsolicited comments, and I hope you have
solved that problem in one or another way.

michael






I meant to put a "LOL" after the comment about the huge thread.  I'm not
sure how I missed that.  :/   I did get it to work finally.  It took
several peoples help and a hammer on my part.  ;-)

I'm just curious as to how they are going to support this in the future.
I have read where some say it can be done but others say it can't, or
not easily.  Old saying, this is where the rubber meets the road.  ^_^


To the OP.  I would use dracut.  I ran into trouble but I found out
later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
init thingy to mess up.  I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time.  My
previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it.  Grub was telling
one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else.  I'm
sure it was a nice fight.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Michael Mol]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale  wrote:
>>> Michael Mol wrote:
>>> To the OP.  I would use dracut.  I ran into trouble but I found out
>>> later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
>>> init thingy to mess up.  I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
>>> rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time.  My
>>> previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
>>> Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it.  Grub was telling
>>> one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else.  I'm
>>> sure it was a nice fight.
>>
>> The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
>>
>> * sys-kernel/dracut
>>     Available versions:  ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
>> ~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
>> dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
>> dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
>> dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
>> dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
>> dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
>> dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
>> dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
>>     Homepage:            http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
>>     Description:         Generic initramfs generation tool
>>
>> None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand, 
>> has.
>
> That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
> initramfs because "udev >= 181 will eventually hit stable". That for
> sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.
>
> I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
> initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
> entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
> your previous entry.

When dracut hits stable, sure, I'll give it a shot.

In the mean time, I get enough headaches from running a mostly-stable
package set. I was once berated for mixing stable and unstable, and
then having the gall to file a bug report when stable emacs wouldn't
build with libpng15 prior to libpng's landing stable, so I try to keep
my usage of unstable packages to a minimum. I don't want to run a full
~amd64 setup, because I don't want to deal with the headaches of being
a full beta tester.

Unless I have a strong and compelling reason to unmask a package and
risk having to unmask dependent versions for it, I won't. For the
moment, I don't.

>
> Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
> stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
> genkernel.

It took me over a month before I found time to try genkernel. And that
only happened because I'm stuck at home trying to recover from a sinus
infection and fever.

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Michael Mol]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale  wrote:

[snip]

> I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages.  It's been
> a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably.
> It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed.  I got
> the old blinky keyboard lights treatment.  :/
>
> Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work.
>  I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not
> stable.  That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus
> no telling how many other deps that got pulled in.

Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions
thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need.

As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific,
strong and compelling need.

>
> Time to eat.  That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back.  After
> a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry.  I actually went
> outside yesterday.  o_O

Beautiful spring weather up here in Michigan, clear skies and
everything. I just hope it stays something like this for my wedding in
a couple weeks.

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Dale]

Michael Mol wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale  wrote:
> 
> [snip]
> 
>> I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages.  It's been
>> a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably.
>> It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed.  I got
>> the old blinky keyboard lights treatment.  :/
>>
>> Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work.
>>  I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not
>> stable.  That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus
>> no telling how many other deps that got pulled in.
> 
> Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions
> thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need.
> 
> As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific,
> strong and compelling need.
> 

This could be one of those times.  The trouble I ran into became clear
later on.  I had tried to build a init thingy that was built into the
kernel.  It didn't work right so I left it behind.  Thing is, I forgot
to disable that in the kernel config.  So, I was building a kernel with
a broken init thingy and telling grub to use the init thingy built by
dracut.  Can you imagine the fist fight that was being had?

I type all that to say this, unmask dracut, run dracut, add the init
thingy to your grub line.  I'm more sure that it will work than I am of
genkernel.


>>
>> Time to eat.  That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back.  After
>> a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry.  I actually went
>> outside yesterday.  o_O
> 
> Beautiful spring weather up here in Michigan, clear skies and
> everything. I just hope it stays something like this for my wedding in
> a couple weeks.
> 


I hope you have good weather too.  I just been having health issues,
again.  It's been a rough week or so.

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Michael Mol]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Dale  wrote:
> Michael Mol wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale  wrote:
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>>> I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages.  It's been
>>> a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably.
>>> It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed.  I got
>>> the old blinky keyboard lights treatment.  :/
>>>
>>> Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work.
>>>  I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not
>>> stable.  That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus
>>> no telling how many other deps that got pulled in.
>>
>> Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions
>> thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need.
>>
>> As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific,
>> strong and compelling need.
>>
>
> This could be one of those times.  The trouble I ran into became clear
> later on.  I had tried to build a init thingy that was built into the
> kernel.  It didn't work right so I left it behind.  Thing is, I forgot
> to disable that in the kernel config.  So, I was building a kernel with
> a broken init thingy and telling grub to use the init thingy built by
> dracut.  Can you imagine the fist fight that was being had?

I followed the thread; there's very little on this list I don't read,
or at least skim. :)

>
> I type all that to say this, unmask dracut, run dracut, add the init
> thingy to your grub line.  I'm more sure that it will work than I am of
> genkernel.

I'm pretty stubborn, and I tend to follow a depth-first search
algorithm while debugging, backtracking only when I hit a dead end. It
can take me longer than, say, a distro-hopper, but I like that I come
out with a better understanding of whatever it is I've been banging my
head on.

The genkernel docs say that if static versions of the requisite
packages don't exist, it will build them. If adding the 'static' USE
flags under /etc/portage/package.use fixes this use case of genkernel,
then I've got a valid bug to report, and the thing can get fixed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] lilo 'duplicate volume id' issue after attaching esata enclosure

[Doug Hunley]

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 19:25, Paul Hartman
 wrote:
> Do you have another machine with SATA ports that you can hook them up
> to temporarily and alter those troublesome bytes?

I wish ;(

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Re: [gentoo-user] lilo 'duplicate volume id' issue after attaching esata enclosure

[Michael Mol]

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Doug Hunley  wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 08:47, Michael Mol  wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 8:30 AM, Doug Hunley  wrote:
>>> The subject line pretty much says it all. I've been happily using lilo
>>> to boot from my internal 4-disk sata array (md, raid 1) for a while
>>> now and I recently bought an external sata enclosure. I cabled it up
>>> to my machine, added 4 disks I had sitting around, and on boot, lilo
>>> throws a 'duplicate vol-id detected' error and halts...
>>> I did a bunch of googling, and it looks like if I could just get
>>> booted, running 'lilo' would actually fix the problem, but I can't get
>>> lilo booted past this error.
>>>
>>> Ideas on how I can fix/remove the vol-id from the external disks?
>>
>> I *think* those are going to be filesystem labels. If it's ext-based,
>> you should be able to use tune2fs to change them.
>>
>> Is there a reason you can't boot from a liveDVD or similar, chroot in,
>> and run lilo? You'll have to get to a working system to change things
>> one way or another...
>>
>> --
>> :wq
>>
>
> no, these are not filesystem labels. they are the first 4 bytes of
> each disks MBR ;)
>
> lilo will correct them, if i can get lilo booted
>
> i tried booting systemrescue cd, and it boots, but it doesn't see the
> external drives (hence it boots fine)

Try an Ubuntu live CD or similar. If it doesn't see the external
drives, there's a reasonable chance you can modprobe something or
enable hotplug support after you've already booted.


Alternately, can you alter your primary system's MBR to alleviate the
conflict, and then get in and fix things properly?

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Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Stroller]

On 24 April 2012, at 08:36, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> ...
> Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired effect? Many 
> thanks.

Thank you. Very much appreciated.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Postgres suddenly can't access files in its /etc directory

[Stroller]

On 23 April 2012, at 22:18, nap...@squareownz.org wrote:
> … 
>  and if I create one and chown it
> postgres:postgres I still can't do anything. I'm totally at a loss here.

If you want to say something like "Postgres doesn't have a home directory", 
please post the output of `grep -i postgres /etc/passwd`. Maybe also the output 
of `echo ~postgres`.

Right now I assume you're looking in /home and not seeing /home/postgres. I 
assume you're running `mkdir /home/postgres`. This is not how home directories 
are created and allocated. 

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 08:36:56AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote
> On Tuesday 24 April 2012 02:41:49 Walter Dnes wrote:
> 
> >   You seem to be sending multipart/alternative.  I didn't even notice
> > that there was any HTML.  Here is what mutt shows when I ask it to
> > view attachments...
> 
> I've finally found what I think was the culprit - a menu option hidden in 
> the composer window. "Formatting (HTML)" was enabled. Not by me, I 
> hasten to add. It isn't now.
> 
> Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired effect? Many 
> thanks.

  Yup.  Just text.

-- Mutt: Attachments
  I 1  [text/Plain, 7bit, iso-8859-1, 0.5K]

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[gentoo-user] Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[James]

http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en


I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo
on any Archos tablet.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[Robert David]

Nice project. I dont know this tablet, but I have similar project that
want to realize when time will arrive. I have Asus eee note, nice
grayscale tablet with wacom digitizer. I want to make some guide and
build environment to prepare image for that.

If you want to install gentoo there, I suggest you collect as much
information about the hardware, how and where kernel can be placed.
Create virtual environment to build the image (qemu). Also get as much
information how are the possibilities to debug and recover, if
something goes wrong. 


Robert.


V Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:46:51 + (UTC)
James  napsáno:

> 
> 
> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en
> 
> 
> I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo
> on any Archos tablet.
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[Eliezer Croitoru]

On 24/04/2012 21:46, James wrote:



http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en


I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo
on any Archos tablet.


James





i have one and i dont want to risk it's usage with gentoo.
i know that there is an ubunut version that works on it but just 
installing gentoo like this can be tough.



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[gentoo-user] Re: gtk+ [error: conflicting types for 'Cursor' on emerge]

[walt]

On 04/24/2012 05:48 AM, Daniel Ibn Zayd wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:46:31 -0700, walt wrote:
>>> 
>>> It appears that you are installing gentoo as a virtual machine to
>>> be run from inside of Darwin, is that how it works?

> 
> Yes, more like its own shell/compiler environment. I tried both fink
> and macports to deal with packages on some old Macs; the problem with
> fink (which I had no real problem with otherwise) is that it wasn't
> obvious how to keep packages separate from the System stuff (like the
> System Perl), so I had a nightmare dealing with a different Perl
> version, plus CPAN, plus fink, and they didn't want to get along so
> well; macports did crazy stuff like make itself owner of apps and
> member of groups; again, a serious problem with boundaries. Gentoo
> took a while to get installed, but I'm really happy that everything
> is living in its own spaceit comes with its own shell and basic
> apps and Perl and and andso I don't have to worry that I'm going
> to mess up my basic OSX system.

Sounds like you understand the problems better than I do.  Assuming
you have a newer Intel-based machine, *I* would say install gentoo as
the host OS and run OSX as a VirtualBox guest.  I might even be able to
help you do it that way ;)

[gentoo-user] Re: genkernel assistance building initramfs

[walt]

On 04/24/2012 08:35 AM, Dale wrote:
> 
> I hope you have good weather too.  I just been having health issues,
> again.  It's been a rough week or so.

I'm sorry to hear that.  But if you're going to do risky things
like giving up junk food and actually going outdoors -- well, we
here on this list can't be of much help to you, sadly.

[gentoo-user] Re: emerge w3m failed

[walt]

On 04/24/2012 03:29 AM, wenpin cui wrote:
> hi, all,
> 
> I tried to emerge www-client/w3m but failed, does anybody have met this
> problem?
> 
> This is build log:
> istream.h:23:8: error: redefinition of ‘struct file_handle’

I get exactly the same error, so the stable version of w3m must be broken.
(Only temporarily, of course ;)

However, I just emerged the unstable version (0.5.3-r1) which works well.
You can try adding this line to /etc/portage/package.keywords and emerge
w3m again:

www-client/w3m  ~amd64 (or ~x86, or whatever is appropriate for you)

[gentoo-user] Re: Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[walt]

On 04/24/2012 01:07 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
> On 24/04/2012 21:46, James wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en
>>
>>
>>
>> 
I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo
>> on any Archos tablet.
>> 
>> 
>> James
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> i have one and i dont want to risk it's usage with gentoo. i know
> that there is an ubunut version that works on it but just installing
> gentoo like this can be tough.

This is the first I've heard of Archos, and it seems to me like a great idea.

The company says you can install any OS you want, and you can even dual-boot
OS's -- so that *seems* to imply that you can re-install the factory OS if
your experiments go bad.  Am I being too optimistic here?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: genkernel assistance building initramfs

[Dale]

walt wrote:
> On 04/24/2012 08:35 AM, Dale wrote:
>>
>> I hope you have good weather too.  I just been having health issues,
>> again.  It's been a rough week or so.
> 
> I'm sorry to hear that.  But if you're going to do risky things
> like giving up junk food and actually going outdoors -- well, we
> here on this list can't be of much help to you, sadly.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Well, Drs can't fix bad genes yet.  I'm not holding my breath either.
As for the junk food, it was sort of what I had without going to town,
which was just not a option at the time.  I lost a few pounds tho.  lol

Hoping for a improvement but a cure would be better.  Then again, hot
weather is around the corner too.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[Eliezer Croitoru]

On 25/04/2012 01:49, walt wrote:

On 04/24/2012 01:07 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:

On 24/04/2012 21:46, James wrote:



http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en





I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo

on any Archos tablet.


James





i have one and i dont want to risk it's usage with gentoo. i know
that there is an ubunut version that works on it but just installing
gentoo like this can be tough.


This is the first I've heard of Archos, and it seems to me like a great idea.

The company says you can install any OS you want, and you can even dual-boot
OS's -- so that *seems* to imply that you can re-install the factory OS if
your experiments go bad.  Am I being too optimistic here?


well it's kind of more then simple to restore cause they have some 
"bios" like thing that you can restore the device basic os with it.
but the thing is that it works with initramfs and some rootfs that i 
dont even know how to understand.

so i left it as is.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone setup Gentoo on an Archos 101

[Michael Mol]

On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:49 PM, walt  wrote:
> On 04/24/2012 01:07 PM, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:
>> On 24/04/2012 21:46, James wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.archos.com/products/ta/archos_101it/tabletpc.html?country=kg&lang=en
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
> I'm just curious if anyone has attempted to put Gentoo
>>> on any Archos tablet.
>>>
>>>
>>> James
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> i have one and i dont want to risk it's usage with gentoo. i know
>> that there is an ubunut version that works on it but just installing
>> gentoo like this can be tough.
>
> This is the first I've heard of Archos, and it seems to me like a great idea.
>
> The company says you can install any OS you want, and you can even dual-boot
> OS's -- so that *seems* to imply that you can re-install the factory OS if
> your experiments go bad.  Am I being too optimistic here?

They've been fairly open for ages. When I was in high school, they had
a portable MP3/MPEG player out that you could put Linux on. This was
just after the first-gen iPod, IIRC, and long before the iPod Touch
was a glimmer in Jobs' eye.

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Re: [gentoo-user] new mobo : Eth0 recovered

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 24 April 2012 17:24:48 Stroller wrote:
> On 24 April 2012, at 08:36, Peter Humphrey wrote:
> > ...
> > Would someone please confirm whether this has had the desired
> > effect? Many thanks.
> 
> Thank you. Very much appreciated.

I can only apologise to all that it took me so long to find the cause. I 
have a bit of an excuse (not much of one): I couldn't see any problem so 
it was hard to debug.

-- 
Rgds
Peter

Re: [gentoo-user] portage slang - interpreter sought

[Keith Dart]

Re 1335272778.22356.0@numa-i1335272778.22356.0@numa-i, Pandu Poluan
said:
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7" emerge dev-python/xhtml2pdf


You can also put

PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7"

into your /etc/make.conf file.


-- Keith


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