Re: [gentoo-user] Python+readline?

[Keith Dart]

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:38:55 -0500
"Walter Dnes"  wrote:

>   The emerge output shows that python would be replaced, and that the
> "readline" USE flag has been set on the previous merge.  I also ran
> revdep-rebuild, and it found nothing.  The python command "modules",
> from inside the interactive "help()" command shows a ton of modules,
> but not "readline".  Now what?

That's very odd.

Try this:

$ find /usr/lib/python2.7 -name "readline*" -print

And see if you get this:

/usr/lib/python2.7/lib-dynload/readline.so


also, "which python", in case you might have another one installed...

and what is sys.path?

Does sys.path contain '/usr/lib64/python2.7/lib-dynload'?



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[gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Python+readline?

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:38:53AM -0800, Keith Dart wrote
> 
> ok, how about the output of:
> 
> emerge -pv dev-lang/python:2.7
> 
> Did you do something with the readline library?

  I never had it installed!!!  I assumed that including the line...

dev-lang/python readline ssl xml

...in /etc/portage/package.use would cause sys-libs/readline to be
automatically pulled in when building python.  WRONG!!!  Once I
explicitly built sys-libs/readline, then python built against it and
up-arrow/left-arrow/right-arrow works just like in bash.  I emerged
readline with "-1", which doesn't enter it into world.  And
"emerge -pv --depclean sys-libs/readline" wants to remove readline.
I'll file a bug in bugzilla later today.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mkisofs: layout

[Joerg Schilling]

Andrey Moshbear  wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 18:13, Joerg Schilling
>  wrote:
> >
> > Then you need to get the layerbreak value from your authoring software and 
> > you
> > need to tell your authoring software to introduce padding. As mentioned 
> > before,
> > mkisofs hnors the paddung that is announced in the IFO file and it cannot
> > introduce padding that is not mentioned in the IFO file.
>
> I thought mkisofs _was_ an authoring software for data isos.

This is correct, but it does not wholly apply to your case:

Video media needs higher level video authoring software that defines the 
padding. Mkisofs just makes the filesystem structure and honors padding from 
video authoring software.

> Experimental results have shown that mkisofs uses alpha-sort instead
> of inode, directory-order, ctime, or mtime sort.
> Is this required as per ISO 9660?

yes

> Also, is there a way to enable a debug mode so that mkisofs states
> Dir X: File Y: LBA Z
> for each file?

-> man isoinfo

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[gentoo-user] xorg-server-1.11.4 runs havoc

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

having updated xorg-server from 1.11.3 to 1.11.4 my machine runs havoc.

xdm or slim start as usual, but having entered my password I get a 
blank screen or some colored strips and the only escape is via the 
famous SysRq sequence.

But, disabling xdm, logging in via a console and using startx,
Xorg is coming up normally and runs normally.

Of course, I've re-emerged everything in x11-drivers.

Has anybody made a similar experience and has somebody an explanation 
for this?

Thanks,
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Konsole question : solved

[Philip Webb]

120130 Philip Webb wrote:
> 120130 Markus Trippelsdorf wrote:
>> On 2012.01.30 at 12:33 -0500, Philip Webb wrote:
>>> 120130 YoYo Siska wrote:
 Konsole should open the default browser set in KDE. 
 You can check that in systemsettings -> Workspace Appearance and Behavior
 -> Default Applications -> Web Browser
>>> There's no 'Default Applications' in my 'systemsettings'.
>>> The 'Default Applications' setting sb stored somewhere: any idea where ?
>> .kde4 % grep -D skip -R "irefox" .
>> ./share/config/kdeglobals:BrowserApplication[$e]=!firefox
>> 
>> From .kde4/./share/config/kdeglobals
>> ...
>> [General]
>> BrowserApplication[$e]=!firefox
>> ...
> Thanks : that's it !  After a reboot, the URL now opens in Firefox.

I've submitted KDE bug 292959 .

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Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Python+readline?

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 03:17:09AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote

> I'll file a bug in bugzilla later today.

  Bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401651 filed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[Michael Hampicke]

> Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a 
> pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won $5.

I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
I was using Win95 - and was happy with it

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[Michael Hampicke]

> Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a 
> pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won $5.

I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
I was using Win7 - and was happy with it

And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
1.something (but up until now just on the servers).

I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.

So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.

[gentoo-user] static nano - how to?

[Helmut Jarausch]

Hi,

from time to time I need to boot in 'single' mode.
I'd like to use the nano editor in this case.
But unfortunately it doesn't run since it cannot resolve the dynamic 
library libmagic.so.1

How can I build a static version of nano?

Many thanks for a hint,
Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
> > Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a 
> > pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won $5.
> 
> I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
> I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
> I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
> I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
> I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
> I was using Win7 - and was happy with it
> 
> And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
> 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).
> 
> I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
> and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.
> 
> So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.

  I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of "drive-by-downloads"
would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.

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Re: [gentoo-user] static nano - how to?

[Alex Schuster]

Helmut Jarausch writes:

> from time to time I need to boot in 'single' mode.
> I'd like to use the nano editor in this case.
> But unfortunately it doesn't run since it cannot resolve the dynamic 
> library libmagic.so.1

Probably because you have a separate /usr partition that is not mounted
in single user mode? In this case, copy /usr/lib/libmagic.so.1 to /lib/.

> How can I build a static version of nano?

There is a utility that can convert static binaries from dynamic ones:
http://www.magicermine.com/

It's not free, though. But there is a 15-day evaluation version you could
use. They state that they support Free Software and OSS, so I guess they
would be okay with this. The author also seems to be a nice guy, I
exchanged some mails with him years ago because I looked for such a
utility. But I did not buy it because the price (300€) was higher than my
need for it.

Another utility is ELF STATIFIER (http://statifier.sourceforge.net/).
It's free, but it seems to have some problems with stack or VDSO
randomization.

Wonko

Re: [gentoo-user] Kaffeine & jack anyone?

[Volker Armin Hemmann]

Am Montag, 30. Januar 2012, 20:02:44 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> Florian Philipp  [12-01-30 19:40]:
> > Am 30.01.2012 19:10, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > is there any way (and if yes: how?) to convince kaffeine to connect to
> > > jack?
> > > 
> > > Thank you very much in advance for any help!
> > > Best regards,
> > > mcc
> > 
> > kaffeine uses xine. You can configure it in
> > ~/.kde4/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config
> > 
> > Setting "audio.driver:jack" /should/ work.
> > 
> > Hope this helps,
> > Florian Philipp
> 
> Hi Florian,
> 
> Thanks for the hint!
> 
> ...unfortunately that impresses kaffeine not at all... ;)
> Even without jack running the audio is loud an clear...
> Wonderful application it is... ;)

maybe because it is using a failsafe? Just in case the sound daemon might not 
be running. Would be the sensible thing to do.

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[gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.11.4 runs havoc

[walt]

On 01/31/2012 02:53 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> having updated xorg-server from 1.11.3 to 1.11.4 my machine runs havoc.
> 
> xdm or slim start as usual, but having entered my password I get a 
> blank screen or some colored strips and the only escape is via the 
> famous SysRq sequence.
> 
> But, disabling xdm, logging in via a console and using startx,
> Xorg is coming up normally and runs normally.
> 
> Of course, I've re-emerged everything in x11-drivers.
> 
> Has anybody made a similar experience and has somebody an explanation 
> for this?

Does xdm leave log files in /var/log? (I don't know)  Maybe there is
something old/invalid in /etc/X11 directing xdm to do something stupid.
Did you try re-emerging xdm?  And revdep-rebuild, naturally.

Re: [gentoo-user] Multiseat -- LTSP?

[Grant]

 Can you rely on Xorg devs to ensure that they are not going to break your
 multiseat system in the future?
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't know why there would be (much) more
>>> likelihood of regression with Xorg multiseat than with anything else,
>>> including LTSP and all of its dependencies.
>>
>> Because fewer people are testing it.
>
> That's fair but Gentoo makes it easy to roll back if necessary.
>
>> You can get low-powered Linux systems for $100 or $150 - either a little 
>> MIPs ShivaPlug or (I guess) a secondhand atom nettop (Acer Revo).
>>
>> If you save 2 hours per machine by using a standard and common thinclient 
>> configuration, then the hardware has paid for itself.
>
> You're saying use built-in thin-client firmware (on the SheevaPlug for
> example) along with something like VNC or NX on the server to save
> time over an LTSP setup?  That would mean giving up some software
> control.  Assuming multiseat works, is there an advantage to this over
> multiseat?
>
>> If you have to employ a Linux sys admin to help you fix a complicated 
>> problem with Xorg multiseat, then it will run you at least $100 or $150 for 
>> those 2 hours. That's how you should be valuing your own time, too.
>
> LTSP and its host of dependencies seem much more complicated to me
> than multiseat.
>
> - Grant

Nevermind on this.  I'm back in now.

- Grant

[gentoo-user] gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Grant]

I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:
In function 'internal_dfa_insn_code':
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:360:1:
internal compiler error: Aborted
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See  for instructions.
make[3]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/gcc'
make[2]: *** [all-stage2-gcc] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
make[1]: *** [stage2-bubble] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
emake failed

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: xorg-server-1.11.4 runs havoc

[Andrés Becerra Sandoval]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 2:28 PM, walt  wrote:

> On 01/31/2012 02:53 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > having updated xorg-server from 1.11.3 to 1.11.4 my machine runs havoc.
> >
> > xdm or slim start as usual, but having entered my password I get a
> > blank screen or some colored strips and the only escape is via the
> > famous SysRq sequence.
> >
> > But, disabling xdm, logging in via a console and using startx,
> > Xorg is coming up normally and runs normally.
> >
> > Of course, I've re-emerged everything in x11-drivers.
> >
> > Has anybody made a similar experience and has somebody an explanation
> > for this?
>
> Does xdm leave log files in /var/log? (I don't know)  Maybe there is
> something old/invalid in /etc/X11 directing xdm to do something stupid.
> Did you try re-emerging xdm?  And revdep-rebuild, naturally.
>
>
>
kdm was crashing on my box after:

eselect qtgraphicssystem set 2   (setting opengl)

After changing it to native, and without rebuilding anything, kdm is
running fine.


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Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Todd Goodman]

* Grant  [120131 14:26]:
> I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
> failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
> mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
> compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.
> 
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:
> In function 'internal_dfa_insn_code':
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:360:1:
> internal compiler error: Aborted
> Please submit a full bug report,
> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
> See  for instructions.
> make[3]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/gcc'
> make[2]: *** [all-stage2-gcc] Error 2
> make[2]: Leaving directory 
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
> make[1]: *** [stage2-bubble] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory 
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
> make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
> emake failed
> 
> - Grant

Did you check the log for OOM (Out of Memory) problems?

I've had problems building gcc  on a machine with limited RAM when my swap
hasn't been enabled.

Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Grant]

>> I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
>> failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
>> mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
>> compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.
>>
>> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:
>> In function 'internal_dfa_insn_code':
>> /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:360:1:
>> internal compiler error: Aborted
>> Please submit a full bug report,
>> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
>> See  for instructions.
>> make[3]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1
>> make[3]: Leaving directory
>> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/gcc'
>> make[2]: *** [all-stage2-gcc] Error 2
>> make[2]: Leaving directory 
>> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
>> make[1]: *** [stage2-bubble] Error 2
>> make[1]: Leaving directory 
>> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
>> make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
>> emake failed
>>
>> - Grant
>
> Did you check the log for OOM (Out of Memory) problems?
>
> I've had problems building gcc  on a machine with limited RAM when my swap
> hasn't been enabled.
>
> Todd

I just checked but there is nothing like that in the logs.

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Jarry]

On 31-Jan-12 21:36, Grant wrote:

I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.

/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:
In function 'internal_dfa_insn_code':
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:360:1:
internal compiler error: Aborted
Please submit a full bug report,
with preprocessed source if appropriate.
See  for instructions.
make[3]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/gcc'
make[2]: *** [all-stage2-gcc] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
make[1]: *** [stage2-bubble] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
emake failed

- Grant


Did you check the log for OOM (Out of Memory) problems?

I've had problems building gcc  on a machine with limited RAM when my swap
hasn't been enabled.

Todd


I just checked but there is nothing like that in the logs.

- Grant


Some versions of GCC I was able to compile with MAKEOPTS="-j1"
only. Whenever I have set it to higher number, it simply failed
with similar error. Surprising, other versions I could compile
even with "-j4"...

Jarry
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[gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[walt]

On 01/31/2012 11:57 AM, Grant wrote:
> I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
> failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
> mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
> compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.

Are you using the new 4.3.3 to build 4.5.3?  The gcc package actually
compiles gcc twice, once with your existing compiler and again with
the new compiler itself (at least it worked that way in the old days).

I'm wondering if the internal compiler error occurs during the first
build (using 4.3.3) or the second (using 4.5.3).

Not that I'd know what to do with that info except to answer my own
question :)

Re: [gentoo-user] gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Grant]

 I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
 failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
 mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
 compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.


 /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:
 In function 'internal_dfa_insn_code':

 /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/gcc-4.5.3/gcc/config/i386/i386.md:360:1:
 internal compiler error: Aborted
 Please submit a full bug report,
 with preprocessed source if appropriate.
 See  for instructions.
 make[3]: *** [insn-attrtab.o] Error 1
 make[3]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build/gcc'
 make[2]: *** [all-stage2-gcc] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
 make[1]: *** [stage2-bubble] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory
 `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.5.3-r1/work/build'
 make: *** [bootstrap-lean] Error 2
 emake failed

 - Grant
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you check the log for OOM (Out of Memory) problems?
>>>
>>> I've had problems building gcc  on a machine with limited RAM when my
>>> swap
>>> hasn't been enabled.
>>>
>>> Todd
>>
>>
>> I just checked but there is nothing like that in the logs.
>>
>> - Grant
>
>
> Some versions of GCC I was able to compile with MAKEOPTS="-j1"
> only. Whenever I have set it to higher number, it simply failed
> with similar error. Surprising, other versions I could compile
> even with "-j4"...

That can't be it, I set MAKEOPTS="-j1" on all my systems years ago. :)

- Grant

Re: [gentoo-user] static nano - how to?

[Florian Philipp]

Am 31.01.2012 18:15, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> Hi,
> 
> from time to time I need to boot in 'single' mode.
> I'd like to use the nano editor in this case.
> But unfortunately it doesn't run since it cannot resolve the dynamic 
> library libmagic.so.1
> 
> How can I build a static version of nano?
> 
> Many thanks for a hint,
> Helmut.
> 

That must be a use flag issue:

ldd `which nano`
linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x7fffde9ff000)
libncursesw.so.5 => /lib64/libncursesw.so.5 (0x7f47f3b64000)
libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x7f47f37be000)
libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2 (0x7f47f35ba000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f47f3dc5000)

USE="ncurses nls unicode -debug -justify -minimal -slang -spell"



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Re: [gentoo-user] Kaffeine & jack anyone?

[Florian Philipp]

Am 31.01.2012 20:01, schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> Am Montag, 30. Januar 2012, 20:02:44 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
>> Florian Philipp  [12-01-30 19:40]:
>>> Am 30.01.2012 19:10, schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de:
 Hi,

 is there any way (and if yes: how?) to convince kaffeine to connect to
 jack?

 Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 Best regards,
 mcc
>>>
>>> kaffeine uses xine. You can configure it in
>>> ~/.kde4/share/apps/kaffeine/xine-config
>>>
>>> Setting "audio.driver:jack" /should/ work.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Florian Philipp
>>
>> Hi Florian,
>>
>> Thanks for the hint!
>>
>> ...unfortunately that impresses kaffeine not at all... ;)
>> Even without jack running the audio is loud an clear...
>> Wonderful application it is... ;)
> 
> maybe because it is using a failsafe? Just in case the sound daemon might not 
> be running. Would be the sensible thing to do.
> 

Or is it necessary to convince KDE's phonon to use jack? I guess then
the VLC backend is worth a try as it supports jack.

Regards,
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[Peter Humphrey]

On Tuesday 31 January 2012 21:37:34 walt wrote:

> The gcc package actually compiles gcc twice, once with your existing
> compiler and again with the new compiler itself (at least it worked that
> way in the old days).

I believe it's three times now: the first time with the old compiler, then 
with the new one, then again with the second new one. Then the last two are 
compared; they should be the same.

I forget where I read that though.

-- 
Rgds
Peter   Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[wdk@moriah]

Hey, WinME was a killer app!

MS were really smart with it and if they used the same philosophy with vista, 
how different things could have been!

WinME killed so many systems, user experiences and expectations that when 2k 
came along every one was so pleased to upgrade (nt4 was never really pushed to 
users) :)

W.Kenworthy


On 01/02/2012, at 1:30, "Walter Dnes"  wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
>>> Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a 
>>> pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won $5.
>> 
>> I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
>> I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win7 - and was happy with it
>> 
>> And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
>> 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).
>> 
>> I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
>> and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.
>> 
>> So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.
> 
>  I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
> more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
> down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of "drive-by-downloads"
> would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.
> 
> -- 
> Walter Dnes 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc-4.5.3-r1 fails to compile with "internal compiler error"

[wdk@moriah]

Check USE/C flags, there may have been changes between versions (I think this 
happened to me)  Try compiling without any of them and if it works start 
looking for the bad one.

W.Kenworthy


On 01/02/2012, at 5:37, walt  wrote:

> On 01/31/2012 11:57 AM, Grant wrote:
>> I can't seem to get gcc-4.5.3-r1 to compile.  I tried twice and it
>> failed at the exact same point both times.  The build log doesn't
>> mention a segfault.  Does anyone know how to fix this?  I was able to
>> compile gcc-4.3.3 a short while ago.
> 
> Are you using the new 4.3.3 to build 4.5.3?  The gcc package actually
> compiles gcc twice, once with your existing compiler and again with
> the new compiler itself (at least it worked that way in the old days).
> 
> I'm wondering if the internal compiler error occurs during the first
> build (using 4.3.3) or the second (using 4.5.3).
> 
> Not that I'd know what to do with that info except to answer my own
> question :)
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[J. Roeleveld]

On Tue, January 31, 2012 6:30 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
>> > Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a
>> pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won
>> $5.
>>
>> I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
>> I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
>> I was using Win7 - and was happy with it
>>
>> And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
>> 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).
>>
>> I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
>> and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.
>>
>> So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.
>
>   I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
> more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
> down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of "drive-by-downloads"
> would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.

I enjoyed MS Dos, then played a bit with MS Win3.11, MS Win95 and MS Win98SE.
However, for important stuff, like day-to-day desktop, I switched to Linux
in 1997. That was the last time I lost files due to a crash of MS
Windows...

--
Joost

Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy support question for old farts. lol

[Dale]

J. Roeleveld wrote:
> 
> On Tue, January 31, 2012 6:30 pm, Walter Dnes wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 06:05:12PM +0100, Michael Hampicke wrote
 Sweet. I had 15 minutes in the office "how long before someone makes a
>>> pointless, unrelated Windows insult out of my post" pool; I just won
>>> $5.
>>>
>>> I was using Win3.1 - and was happy with it
>>> I was using Win95 - and was happy with it
>>> I was using WinNT4 - and was happy with it
>>> I was using Win2000 - and was happy with it
>>> I was using Win Server 2003 - and was happy with it
>>> I was using Win7 - and was happy with it
>>>
>>> And I am also a Linux SuSe user since 6.0 and Gentoo user since
>>> 1.something (but up until now just on the servers).
>>>
>>> I made the final switch from Windows to Linux on my Workstation (Gentoo)
>>> and Notebook (Lubuntu) only a few month ago.
>>>
>>> So please, don't accuse me of making Windows insults.
>>
>>   I feel that Win98SE was the best Windows ever, and could've been even
>> more of a killer if Microsoft hadn't so stupidly tried to ram ActiveX
>> down people's throats.  Remove ActiveX, and 99% of "drive-by-downloads"
>> would've disappeared.  WinME was a sad joke, however.
> 
> I enjoyed MS Dos, then played a bit with MS Win3.11, MS Win95 and MS Win98SE.
> However, for important stuff, like day-to-day desktop, I switched to Linux
> in 1997. That was the last time I lost files due to a crash of MS
> Windows...
> 
> --
> Joost
> 
> 
> 


When 3.1 came out, I changed jobs.  Swapping 15 floppies is no fun to
me.  Funny, reinstalling fixed the problems back then and it still is
the best way to fix windoze.

< sighs >

Dale

:-)  :-)

-- 
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output?  Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

[gentoo-user] Re: static nano - how to?

[»Q«]

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 23:25:37 +0100
Florian Philipp  wrote:

> Am 31.01.2012 18:15, schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > from time to time I need to boot in 'single' mode.
> > I'd like to use the nano editor in this case.
> > But unfortunately it doesn't run since it cannot resolve the
> > dynamic library libmagic.so.1
> > 
> > How can I build a static version of nano?
> > 
> > Many thanks for a hint,
> > Helmut.
> 
> That must be a use flag issue:
> 
> ldd `which nano`
> linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x7fffde9ff000)
> libncursesw.so.5 => /lib64/libncursesw.so.5
> (0x7f47f3b64000) libc.so.6 => /lib64/libc.so.6
> (0x7f47f37be000) libdl.so.2 => /lib64/libdl.so.2
> (0x7f47f35ba000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7f47f3dc5000)
> 
> USE="ncurses nls unicode -debug -justify -minimal -slang -spell"

libmagic is used by >=app-editors/nano-2.3.0

Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Python+readline?

[Walter Dnes]

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:07:56AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 03:17:09AM -0500, Walter Dnes wrote
> 
> > I'll file a bug in bugzilla later today.
> 
>   Bug https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=401651 filed.

  A bit more looking at the ebuild, and more testing, reveals that you
must have both the "ncurses" and "readline" USE flags set in order to
for python to pull in sys-libs/readline.  Note that it will build
against a previously loaded sys-libs/readline if only the "readline"
flag is set, but it will not pull in the sys-libs/readline package.

-- 
Walter Dnes