Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Wednesday 15 June 2011 23:38:01 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:14:28 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > > If not please change the ethernet cable. > > > > > > I did it, it was even a new one! > > > > > > > This seems s much like a hardware failure > > > > > > > > I can't think of anything else. > > > > > > I would like this was the key, but... :-( > > > > OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make & > > model do you have? > > I'd go even more basic, connect directly to another computer using a > crossover cable, set addresses on both with ifconfig and see if they can > ping one another. This really sounds like broken hardware and if the > cable is fine, the NIC is suspect. Or swap the cable with a working PC and vice-versa. If then the issue stays with the currently broken one, then the issue is probably with the network card in the broken one. If the issue affects the other PC, then the problem is the cable. I've had issues before where I couldn't get a connection using CAT-6 cables. Didn't check properly and the network card wouldn't allow it. The card did, however, claim there was a link... -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Modules
On 15 June 2011, at 19:05, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 15 June 2011 17:25:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: >> On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:07:01 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> I'd like to use this but I don't have shopt. Which package is it in? If >>> I ask Google I get a list of places to buy T-shirts. >> >> It's a Bash built-in. > > Hmm. It seems that the command from the Wiki can't be run as an ordinary > user via sudo; … Did you try: sudo bash -c 'whatever' ? Personally, I haven't used Gentoo's bash completion since 2009. http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/189292 I don't really feel that I can trust it. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems
Apologies for this. It was supposed to be a general term With regards to usb issues 2.6.39-r1 has seemed to solve a lot of issues. --Original Message-- From: Peter Humphrey To: Gentoo ReplyTo: Gentoo Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB Problems Sent: 16 Jun 2011 00:34 On Sunday 12 June 2011 15:30:12 john wrote: > Gents [...] It may have escaped your attention, but we here aren't all gents. Just thought I'd mention it. -- Rgds Peter JDM
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
Or someone's standing on the cable :-) Yes, a bad spirit!!! I resume. 1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E) 3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists, works fine on the laptop which is without problem, and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop. Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 09:50:00 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote: > 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E) Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1. If it works the problem is with the motherboard NIC. I'd also check the BIOS to make sure the pixies haven't disabled the NIC in the BIOS settings, stranger things have happened, sometimes disabling and re-enabling a device can resurrect it. -- Neil Bothwick Hyperbole is absolutely the worst mistake you can possibly make signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
This really sounds like broken hardware and if the > cable is fine, the NIC is suspect. I'm afraid you're right! But, as I just wrote, the NIC is included in the motherboard... PERHAPS a solution: try a restore from the external HD where I have saved a week ago with fsarchiver on SystemRescueCD.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 10:06:19 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote: > This really sounds like broken hardware and if the > > cable is fine, the NIC is suspect. > > I'm afraid you're right! > But, as I just wrote, the NIC is included in the motherboard... > > PERHAPS a solution: try a restore from the > external HD where I have saved a week ago with > fsarchiver on SystemRescueCD. No amount of farting around with software will bring dead hardware back to life. Just try another NIC, at least that way you'll know. -- Neil Bothwick (A)bort (R)etry (S)ell it signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
> Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1. Excuse me, I don't understand what you mean " get hold of a PCI* NIC" :-( A lspci gives: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12)
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thursday 16 June 2011 09:50:00 Cahn Roger wrote: > Or someone's standing on the cable :-) > > Yes, a bad spirit!!! > > I resume. > 1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer > between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7 Is the printer still connected and switched on? It's possible this is part of the problem > 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E) Those can, unfortunately, also break > 3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists, > works fine on the laptop which is without problem, > and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop. > Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem. I agree, the cable has been proven to work.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thursday 16 June 2011 10:28:47 Cahn Roger wrote: > > Can you get hold of a PCI* NIC to try, it will appear as eth1. > > Excuse me, I don't understand what you mean " get hold of a PCI* NIC" :-( > > A lspci gives: > > 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E > Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12) What Cahn Roger means is, can you get hold of a network card that is not included on your mainboard? In other words, can you test using a new network card that you built into the computer? Can you try checking the BIOS settings to see if there is something there that might cause problems with the network device on the mainboard? Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly. I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer or by a BIOS setting. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
> Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance > that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly. I'm afraid you're right, because neither Gentoo nor XP work and they're on two different HD. > I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer It was my first idea, because it arrived just afterwards. > or by a BIOS setting. I verified, but didn't see any wrong setting I'll try with an other network card...when I get time! Thank's all for trying to bring me out of the trouble. I'll tell you what will happen. Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
Apologies if I missed someone already asking these: 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging something valid? 2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged in 3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow. 4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 () for anything meaningful. 5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right module name from "lsmod" BillK On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 11:55 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote: > > Based on all the information provided already, there is a very good chance > > that the network card on your mainboard is no longer working correctly. > > I'm afraid you're right, because neither Gentoo nor XP work and they're > on two different HD. > > > I am, to be honest, hoping that it is caused by interference of the printer > > It was my first idea, because it arrived just afterwards. > > > or by a BIOS setting. > > I verified, but didn't see any wrong setting > > I'll try with an other network card...when I get time! > Thank's all for trying to bring me out of the trouble. > I'll tell you what will happen. > Roger > > > -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 09:02:01 Cahn Roger wrote: > > OK, let's look at this from the router side ... what router make & model > > do you have? > > It's a box through which I get internet, telephone. > The name is Neuf-Box and given by access supplier SFR. > It continue to work well on my two other PCs and telephone > connection is normal. OK, I don't know how much SFR have locked down their firmware. You should be able to access its control panel using a browser (using another PC of course) and pointing it to http://192.168.178.1 (the default address for this router seems to be http://192.168.1.1). Then work your way through the menu until you find a log. If there is one available then have a look at what it shows when you try to connect with your faulty PC. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
on 06/16/2011 10:50 AM Cahn Roger wrote the following: > Or someone's standing on the cable :-) > > Yes, a bad spirit!!! > > I resume. > 1-The problem occured after I tried to share my Epson printer > between my three PCs: Gentoo+XP (twice) and W7 > 2-The NIC is included in the motherboard (Asus P5K-E) > 3-The cable from the dektop, where the problem exists, > works fine on the laptop which is without problem, > and the cable from the laptop doesn't work on the desktop. > Therefore, I think, that's not a cable problem. > > > Reset the switch too?
Re: [gentoo-user] blocking conflicts in kde packages when updating world
"ifj. Stefán István" writes: > I want to make an update on my Gentoo system and get a lot of blocking > packages. > I use this command for upgarde: > USE="semantic-desktop" emerge -pv --update --newuse --deep world Add --tree, this may help to see what pulls in which packages. I had a similar blocker output when upgrading KDEPIM, it turned out I had akregator:4.4 in /var/lib/portage/world. After I removed the line, all was fine. Wonko
[gentoo-user] sysklogd
Someone that use sysklogd know how to create /dev/xconsole? Cos every time that sysklogd start during the boot appear some message about this "file" and something like "No such file or directory". But the sysklogd starting normally. Thanks for any help. -- --- Zhu Sha Zang
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo server installation
thank you al for your responses! this really helped a lot I will try to install and use Gentoo as server and I also will contact the gentoo-server mailinglist if I experienace any problems Thanks Tom 2011/6/10 Pandu Poluan > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 21:29, Alan McKinnon > wrote: > > Apparently, though unproven, at 15:15 on Friday 10 June 2011, Joost > Roeleveld > > did opine thusly: > > > >> On Friday 10 June 2011 12:13:22 Perenaster wrote: > >> > Hey, > >> > I dont't know if this is the right list I'm writing to but I want to > use > >> > Gentoo as server. My aim is a small as possible installation of an OS > >> > with only the modules I want. So I thought Gentoo might be the OS of > >> > choice. Is it suitable for an server or should I look for an other > >> > distro? > >> > Is there anything in particular that I have to mention at the > >> > installation? Thanks in advance, > >> > Tom > >> > >> Hi Tom, > >> > >> Gentoo is quite usable as a Server. I use it as such myself. > > > > Funny think about Gentoo is that it can save you a few MB of disk space > by > > removing things you don't need. > > > > But it consumes 3GB of disk space to do it. > > > > Heh, I personally don't really care about hard disk usage. > > All I know is, compared to other 'server'-oriented distros (or distro > variant), Gentoo has the least amount of memory usage :-) > > Rgds, > -- > Pandu E Poluan > ~ IT Optimizer ~ > Visit my Blog: http://pepoluan.posterous.com > > -- sip:3...@perenaster.com sip:3...@perenaster.com sip:3...@perenaster.com sip:3...@perenaster.com sip:3...@perenaster.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
> Apologies if I missed someone already asking these: No problem! Thanks to try to help me. > 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging > something valid? No. They are stable > 2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged > in They work both (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.20 my desktop IP) > 3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have > not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow. Not iptables installed. > 4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 () for > anything meaningful. ping to my laptop which works (192.168.0.22) fails. In dmesg (very very long!) I didn't find anything I could understand but this: [ 11.002756] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface [ 11.003194] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready [ 11.113427] Adding 2048280k swap on /dev/sdb2. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:2048280k [ 14.025657] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full duplex, flow control rx [ 14.026096] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready [ 24.386040] eth0: no IPv6 routers present With ctrl+alt+F12 i canread this (interesting?) Bureau ntpd_intres[3301] host name not found: 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org (3 other lines like this with number 2, 3, 4) > 5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right > module name from "lsmod" in lsmod I don't have a module eth_module
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
> Reset the switch too? Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean ;-(
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
on 06/16/2011 05:11 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following: > >> Reset the switch too? > > Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean ;-( > > > Reset, or power-off and power-on the switch/hub.
[gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my gentoo laptop. The htc manual says that I first must install htc sync. When I go to the htc web site, I find that htc sync is only available for ms windows. I believing others on this group have tethered their incredibles and I wonder how. I see in google some attempts to use wine or other ms windows emulators / virtualizers. I do not need to sync contacts/mail/calendar since I do that with google. I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo. thanks in advance. allan
Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: > I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my > gentoo laptop. > I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo. Check out this forum post: https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-843255-start-0.html
[gentoo-user] /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently I'm helping a Windows friend bring up his first Gentoo box. With the locale set in /etc/locale as per the install docs the locale command returns: (from the chroot) (chroot) livecd linux # cat /etc/locale.gen en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 (chroot) livecd linux # locale LANG= LC_CTYPE="POSIX" LC_NUMERIC="POSIX" LC_TIME="POSIX" LC_COLLATE="POSIX" LC_MONETARY="POSIX" LC_MESSAGES="POSIX" LC_PAPER="POSIX" LC_NAME="POSIX" LC_ADDRESS="POSIX" LC_TELEPHONE="POSIX" LC_MEASUREMENT="POSIX" LC_IDENTIFICATION="POSIX" LC_ALL= (chroot) livecd linux # However on my machines it did the same thing until I set 02locale and now it returns: mark@c2stable ~ $ locale LANG=en_US.UTF8 LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF8" LC_NUMERIC="en_US.UTF8" LC_TIME="en_US.UTF8" LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF8" LC_MONETARY="en_US.UTF8" LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF8" LC_PAPER="en_US.UTF8" LC_NAME="en_US.UTF8" LC_ADDRESS="en_US.UTF8" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.UTF8" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.UTF8" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF8" LC_ALL= mark@c2stable ~ $ It seems to me the latter is preferable but the install docs don't talk about it at all. Thanks, Mark
Re: Odp: [gentoo-user] Re: polish fonts xorg.conf
Dnia 15-06-2011 o godz. 21:59 Mick napisał(a): > On Wednesday 15 Jun 2011 16:41:29 YoYo Siska wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 04:46:54PM +0200, fajfu...@wp.pl wrote: > > > Dnia 14-06-2011 o godz. 21:51 walt napisał(a): > > > > On 06/14/2011 09:02 AM, fajfu...@wp.pl wrote: > > > > > Hello > > > > > > > > > > When I execute: > > > > > setxkbmap pl > > > > > > > > > > I can type polish fonts in xterm and other X programs. But when I > > > > > > > > generate xorg.conf file with "Xorg -configure" and add the following to > > > > it I cannot type the polish fonts (I copied it to /etc/x11/xorg.conf) > > > > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > > > > > > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > > > > Driver "kbd" > > > > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > > > > > Option "XkbLayout""pl" > > > > > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Xorg.0.log: > > > > > [ 29007.715] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" > > > > > [ 29008.100] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" > > > > > > > > (type: KEYBOARD) > > > > > > > > > [ 29008.100] (**) Option "xkb_rules" "evdev" > > > > > [ 29008.100] (**) Option "xkb_model" "evdev" > > > > > [ 29008.100] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us" > > > > > > > > The only problem I can see at the moment is that the log file says that > > > > your keyboard > > > > is using the 'evdev' driver but your xorg.conf specifies the 'kbd' > > > > driver. Try changing > > > > the Driver to "evdev" instead of 'kbd'. > > > > > > I have reconfigured xorg.conf as follows: > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > > Driver "evdev" > > > Option "XkbModel" "pc105" > > > Option "XkbLayout""pl" > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > or > > > > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > > > > Identifier "Keyboard0" > > > Driver "evdev" > > > Option "XkbModel" "evdev" > > > Option "XkbLayout""pl" > > > > > > EndSection > > > > > > > > > Unfortunatelly it didn't help. > > > I attach the complete Xorg.0.log. > > > Do you have another suggestions. > > > Thank you for help > > > > [ 24703.710] (**) Keyboard0: always reports core events > > [ 24703.710] (EE) Keyboard0: No device specified. > > [ 24703.710] (II) UnloadModule: "evdev" > > [ 24703.710] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "Keyboard0" > > > > you defined a (new) keyboard in the config, which doesn't actually point > > to a device (the old kbd driver didn't need a device, but it didn't work > > for other reasons...) so that X basically ignored that section > > and your "real" keyboard device did get added automatically later > > albeit without your settings... > > > > the most correct way with a newer xorg is to create a file in > > /etc/xorg.conf.d where you put an entry, which would *match* your > > keyboard device (that gets automatically created) and add the options to > > it, basically something like: > > > > Section "InputClass" > > Identifier "pl keyboard layout" > > MatchIsKeyboard "on" > > Option "XkbModel" "evdev" > > Option "XkbLayout""pl" > > EndSection > > > > can't find gentoo specific doc / page for this stuff, but > > man xorg.conf (search for InputClass) and google for > > xorg.conf.d and/or InputClass should give you something usefull > > fex: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Input_device_configuration > > > > > > > > yoyo > As yoyo says: > > Remove > Section "ServerLayout" > # InputDevice"Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard" > > because evdev does not need it and change your keyboard section as > suggested, > or if it doesn't work you can also try this: > = > Section "InputClass" >Identifier "keyboard catchall" >Driver "evdev" >MatchIsKeyboard "on" >MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*" >Option "XkbLayout" "pl" >Option "XkbOptions" > EndSection > = > > -- > Regards, > Mick Thanks all of you for help. The last 2 posts definitely solved the problem.
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On 06/16/2011 06:45 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently There is no /etc/locale. I assume you mean /etc/locale.gen. That one only contains the locales for glibc. You should not specify env vars there. You only list raw locales. Mine for example has these contents: en_US ISO-8859-1 en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 /etc/env.d/02locale is of a different format. It's executed as a script, so you set your locale-specific env vars there. You only need LANG actually, and possibly LC_COLLATE. The whole contents of mine: LANG="en_US.UTF-8" LC_COLLATE="C"
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the >> two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? >> >> 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents >> >> 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently > > I'm not near a Gentoo machine right now, but off the top of my head IIRC: > > /etc/locale.gen contains a list of locales to be compiled when glibc > is emerged. These will be available to be used. > > /etc/env.d/02locale specifies which of those locales you actually want > to use for the system-wide default (the LC variables) Thanks for the response Paul. Does that mean that the /etc/locale.gen is used only by glibc and not really by the system? If so, what is glibc doing with these beyond letting me system run programs? If 02locale specifies what the system is using, then should it be 02locale that's in the install documents vs off in an optional Gentoo Localization guide? Note that the /etc/locale.gen stuff is marked optional in the guide so presumably it isn't actually needed. All I've determined about it is that it reduces the amount of time emerge spends buildingglibc/gcc. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:22 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 06/16/2011 06:45 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the >> two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? >> >> 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents >> >> 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently > > There is no /etc/locale. I assume you mean /etc/locale.gen. I did. thanks. > That one only > contains the locales for glibc. You should not specify env vars there. You > only list raw locales. Mine for example has these contents: > > en_US ISO-8859-1 > en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 > As does mine. > /etc/env.d/02locale is of a different format. It's executed as a script, so > you set your locale-specific env vars there. You only need LANG actually, > and possibly LC_COLLATE. The whole contents of mine: > > LANG="en_US.UTF-8" > LC_COLLATE="C" > I had the first line but not the second which I've added. I think the root of my question is really the (possibly) unfortunately use of the word 'locale' for the glibc stuff. I understand the concept of locales for the system and users, but why does glibc need locales which are possibly different from those in use on a system by users? I can make up reasons, like someone from Japan logs into my server to do work and needs something to use Japanese locales, but he could likely set those up in .bashrc or something. What is glibc doing with them? Thanks, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On 06/16/2011 07:23 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently I'm not near a Gentoo machine right now, but off the top of my head IIRC: /etc/locale.gen contains a list of locales to be compiled when glibc is emerged. These will be available to be used. /etc/env.d/02locale specifies which of those locales you actually want to use for the system-wide default (the LC variables) Thanks for the response Paul. Does that mean that the /etc/locale.gen is used only by glibc and not really by the system? If so, what is glibc doing with these beyond letting me system run programs? It allows you to have locales to use in /etc/env.d/02locale ;-) If you want to set LANG=en_US.UTF-8 in 02locale, you of course need the files for that specific locale/encoding. To get them, you need to write "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" in locale.gen. Not sure why you're not getting the comments in your locale.gen, but here there are, at the top of the file: # /etc/locale.gen: list all of the locales you want to have on your system # # The format of each line: # # # Where is a locale located in /usr/share/i18n/locales/ and # where is a charmap located in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps/. # # All blank lines and lines starting with # are ignored. # # For the default list of supported combinations, see the file: # /usr/share/i18n/SUPPORTED # # Whenever glibc is emerged, the locales listed here will be automatically # rebuilt for you. After updating this file, you can simply run `locale-gen` # yourself instead of re-emerging glibc.
[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On 06/16/2011 07:45 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I think the root of my question is really the (possibly) unfortunately use of the word 'locale' for the glibc stuff. locale.gen looks a bit cryptic, but the "gen" refers to generating locales. To have locales available for use, they need to be generated first.
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 09:23:16AM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Paul Hartman > wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> Is there a simple explanation concerning the difference between the > >> two locales I have seen on Gentoo machines? > >> > >> 1) /etc/locale, as specified in the installation documents > >> > >> 2) /etc/env.d/02locale as has been discussed on the list recently > > > > I'm not near a Gentoo machine right now, but off the top of my head IIRC: > > > > /etc/locale.gen contains a list of locales to be compiled when glibc > > is emerged. These will be available to be used. > > > > /etc/env.d/02locale specifies which of those locales you actually want > > to use for the system-wide default (the LC variables) > > Thanks for the response Paul. > > Does that mean that the /etc/locale.gen is used only by glibc and not > really by the system? If so, what is glibc doing with these beyond > letting me system run programs? > > If 02locale specifies what the system is using, then should it be > 02locale that's in the install documents vs off in an optional Gentoo > Localization guide? > > Note that the /etc/locale.gen stuff is marked optional in the guide so > presumably it isn't actually needed. All I've determined about it is > that it reduces the amount of time emerge spends buildingglibc/gcc. locale.gen is in the install docs, because it allows you to choose which locales should be built, ie after emerging libc, which locales you can choose from... if you don't modify it, you get a lot of usual locales built... /etc/env.d/02locale is used to actually choose which one of the built ones will be used as the "default" locale for (almost) everything that runs... I gues it might deserve a mention in the install guide... though it actullly isn't any special file... the actuall locale is set by setting an enviroment variable (LANG or the specific LC_...), you could set it in your .bashrc / .bash_profile only for your user, or anywhere where it would apply to most programs, ie /etc/profile ... Gentoo has the mechanism, that anything that gets put into /etc/env.d is then (through env-update, which you have certainly run from time to time ;) merged together to /etc/profile.env, which is in turned sourced by /etc/profile (and posibly other things) so that it is just logical to put it there... but the actual name of the file doesn't really matter ;) yoyo
[gentoo-user] gentoo-source-2.6.38-r6 as PV domU in XEN no Console
Hi, it is booting, I can log in. (dom0 is xen-sources-2.6.34-r4). However I do not have a complete console (tried with xensons=tty). Last message while starting with xm create -c is: [0.284193] uname used greatest stack depth: 5856 bytes left [6.801094] init-early.sh used greatest stack depth: 4000 bytes left If I use xen-sources for the domU kernel as well all is fine. I used the kernel-config of the xen-sources-domU kernel to do a make menuconfig in the gentoo-sources-kernel. Anybody has this working? Konstantin -- Dipl-Inf. Konstantin Agouros aka Elwood Blues. Internet: elw...@agouros.de Altersheimerstr. 1, 81545 Muenchen, Germany. Tel +49 89 69370185 "Captain, this ship will not survive the forming of the cosmos." B'Elana Torres
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thursday 16 June 2011 17:20:10 Thanasis wrote: > on 06/16/2011 05:11 PM Cahn Roger wrote the following: > >> Reset the switch too? > > > > Excuse me Thanasis but I don't understand what you mean ;-( > > Reset, or power-off and power-on the switch/hub. Or simply, shut down everything that's networked, eg. router(s), switch(es)/hub(s), computer(s), Wait 5 minutes and then restart the whole thing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
> Wait 5 minutes and then restart the whole thing. I did it, but without success :-(
Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
On Thu, Jun 16 2011, Paul Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Allan Gottlieb wrote: >> I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my >> gentoo laptop. > >> I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo. > > Check out this forum post: > https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-843255-start-0.html I have tried both builtin and modules for the kernel options mentioned in the forum, with no success. The phone is recognized and if I set the option (on the phone) to have the connection act as a disk, that works file. But the phone option for mobile broadband does not work. I see the phone in dmesg but the usb0 network port is not created (I do have net.usb0 --> net.lo). thanks, allan
Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 15:38:30 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
> I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my
> gentoo laptop.
>
> The htc manual says that I first must install htc sync.
> When I go to the htc web site, I find that htc sync is only available
> for ms windows.
I wouldn't think that this is necessary unless you want to sync contacts,
messages, etc. Opensync may work with that phone - but I do know for sure.
> I believing others on this group have tethered their incredibles and I
> wonder how. I see in google some attempts to use wine or other ms
> windows emulators / virtualizers.
>
> I do not need to sync contacts/mail/calendar since I do that with
> google.
>
> I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo.
I don't have your phone to provide detailed instructions, but this is how I
have tethered phones in the past to connect to the Internet using IrDA or
Bluetooth.
1. Establish a connection between your phone and the laptop. I assume you
will use Bluetooth for this, so you will need to edit
/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf as follows:
#
# RFCOMM configuration file.
#
rfcomm0 {
# # Automatically bind the device at startup
# bind no;
bind yes;
# # Bluetooth address of the device
# device 11:22:33:44:55:66;
device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX; <--your phone's b'tooth MAC address
#
# # RFCOMM channel for the connection
# channel 1;
#channel 1;
# # Description of the connection
# comment "Example Bluetooth device";
comment "HTC Incredible"; <--your phone's name
}
To find the MAC address run hcitool with various parameters like, scan, dev,
inq.
Then create a ppp connection on your PC and point it to /dev/rfcomm0. First
check though that the device is being created and if not, check the
/etc/conf.d/bluetooth file, this is mine:
# Bluetooth configuraton file
# Bind rfcomm devices (allowed values are "true" and "false")
RFCOMM_ENABLE=true
# Config file for rfcomm
RFCOMM_CONFIG="/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf"
The tricky part with the ppp connection is using the correct string for
running the modem on the phone. On mine I dial up *99# and that activates
GPRS on the phone. You may also need special initialisation commands for the
phone's modem. Some googling on these specifics should get you there.
Other than that enable bluetooth on both devices, establish a connection using
bluetooth and entering a pin and then run ppp on your laptop. If all goes as
expected you should be online.
--
Regards,
Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
On Thu, Jun 16 2011, Mick wrote:
> On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 15:38:30 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
>> I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my
>> gentoo laptop.
>>
>> The htc manual says that I first must install htc sync.
>> When I go to the htc web site, I find that htc sync is only available
>> for ms windows.
>
> I wouldn't think that this is necessary unless you want to sync contacts,
> messages, etc. Opensync may work with that phone - but I do know for sure.
>
>
>> I believing others on this group have tethered their incredibles and I
>> wonder how. I see in google some attempts to use wine or other ms
>> windows emulators / virtualizers.
>>
>> I do not need to sync contacts/mail/calendar since I do that with
>> google.
>>
>> I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo.
>
> I don't have your phone to provide detailed instructions, but this is how I
> have tethered phones in the past to connect to the Internet using IrDA or
> Bluetooth.
thanks for the information. The forum post paul sent me too claims that
this is very easy with a usb connection. But to date, I haven't got it
working. Others definitely have so there is probably something wrong
with configuration (quite possible the kernel).
thanks again,
allan
> 1. Establish a connection between your phone and the laptop. I assume you
> will use Bluetooth for this, so you will need to edit
> /etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf as follows:
>
> #
> # RFCOMM configuration file.
> #
>
> rfcomm0 {
> # # Automatically bind the device at startup
> # bind no;
> bind yes;
> # # Bluetooth address of the device
> # device 11:22:33:44:55:66;
> device XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX; <--your phone's b'tooth MAC address
> #
> # # RFCOMM channel for the connection
> # channel 1;
> #channel 1;
> # # Description of the connection
> # comment "Example Bluetooth device";
> comment "HTC Incredible"; <--your phone's name
> }
>
> To find the MAC address run hcitool with various parameters like, scan, dev,
> inq.
>
> Then create a ppp connection on your PC and point it to /dev/rfcomm0. First
> check though that the device is being created and if not, check the
> /etc/conf.d/bluetooth file, this is mine:
>
> # Bluetooth configuraton file
>
> # Bind rfcomm devices (allowed values are "true" and "false")
> RFCOMM_ENABLE=true
>
> # Config file for rfcomm
> RFCOMM_CONFIG="/etc/bluetooth/rfcomm.conf"
>
>
> The tricky part with the ppp connection is using the correct string for
> running the modem on the phone. On mine I dial up *99# and that activates
> GPRS on the phone. You may also need special initialisation commands for the
> phone's modem. Some googling on these specifics should get you there.
>
> Other than that enable bluetooth on both devices, establish a connection
> using
> bluetooth and entering a pin and then run ppp on your laptop. If all goes as
> expected you should be online.
Re: [gentoo-user] Internet
On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 16:10 +0200, Cahn Roger wrote: > > Apologies if I missed someone already asking these: > > No problem! Thanks to try to help me. > > > 1. are the lights on or flashing with a cable plugged in and pinging > > something valid? > > No. They are stable > That indicates a problem - if a packet is going out/in, the lights shouls flash > > 2. can you ping yourself (both 127.0.0.1 and the nic IP) - cable plugged > > in > > They work both (127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.20 my desktop IP) > that would indicate the software (protocol stack) is ok > > 3. do you have IP tables installed - "iptables -vnL" and check you have > > not firewalled yourself off from the world somehow. > > Not iptables installed. ok > > > 4. set up a ping and check "dmesg" and terminal 12 () for > > anything meaningful. > > ping to my laptop which works (192.168.0.22) fails. > In dmesg (very very long!) I didn't find anything > I could understand but this: > [ 11.002756] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: enabling interface > [ 11.003194] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready > [ 11.113427] Adding 2048280k swap on /dev/sdb2. Priority:-1 extents:1 > across:2048280k > [ 14.025657] sky2 :02:00.0: eth0: Link is up at 100 Mbps, full > duplex, flow control rx > [ 14.026096] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready > [ 24.386040] eth0: no IPv6 routers present > normal, seeing the cable and a valid line discipline the other end > With ctrl+alt+F12 i canread this (interesting?) > Bureau ntpd_intres[3301] host name not found: 0.gentoo.pool.ntp.org > (3 other lines like this with number 2, 3, 4) > ntpd is the network time protocol daemon - its basicly complaining about no network. > > 5. as an outside chance, run "modinfo [eth_module]" - get the right > > module name from "lsmod" > > in lsmod I don't have a module eth_module > > in this comntext [ ] normally means optional or "replace this" so you need to do an lsmod, identify the module for your ethernet card (sky2?) and rum "modinfo eth_module" replacing eth_module with the real module name. > > > Next I would remove the switch and use a crossover cable to another machine and use ethtool on each end to go deeper into what the hardware/cable is doing. You can still get problems with one end being say 10Mb/s and the other running a different speed/duplex etc. I am finding that 1Ghz chips seem less than reliable in this regard to older switches that way! I also have some 4 port sun 100mhz cards that need the other end always up before powering the machine they are in on as nothing I can do once up will get the ends in sync. also try "cat /proc/net/dev" and see if that shows anything useful BillK -- William Kenworthy Home in Perth!
[gentoo-user] Recovering RAID1 after disk failure
Hi all, I've got a sw RAID1 that just had a failed drive replaced with an identical drive. However, the good drive started on sector 63 and the new drive want's to start on sector 2048. Fdisk won't let me create the partition table on the new drive as it is on the old drive. This is the good drive in the RAID: === Disk /dev/sdb: 320.1 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders, total 625142448 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disk identifier: 0xfc32270f Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sdb1 63 224909 112423+ fd Linux raid autodetect /dev/sdb2 2249105057261925173855 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sdb350572620 625137344 287282362+ fd Linux raid autodetect === However, after zero'ing out the new drive, this is what fdisk allows me to do: === Device contains neither a valid DOS partition table, nor Sun, SGI or OSF disklabel Building a new DOS disklabel with disk identifier 0xfcd585e4. Changes will remain in memory only, until you decide to write them. After that, of course, the previous content won't be recoverable. Warning: invalid flag 0x of partition table 4 will be corrected by w(rite) Command (m for help): n Command action e extended p primary partition (1-4) p Partition number (1-4, default 1): 1 First sector (2048-625142447, default 2048): === As you can see, I can't mirror the previous partitioning scheme and I will probably not have enough space on the new drive to build the RAID! What can I do? -- Take care and have fun, Mike Diehl.
Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering RAID1 after disk failure
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Mike Diehl wrote:
> I've got a sw RAID1 that just had a failed drive replaced with an identical
> drive.
>
> However, the good drive started on sector 63 and the new drive want's to start
> on sector 2048. Fdisk won't let me create the partition table on the new
> drive as it is on the old drive.
Hi Mike,
I believe this is due to the alignment code in newer versions of fdisk
(2048 sector = 1 megabyte)
I think you can use the expert menu in fdisk ("x" from the main menu)
to achieve what you're trying to do. I can't tell you the exact steps
but I am 99.9% sure it can be done.
Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible
On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 23:13:28 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > On Thu, Jun 16 2011, Mick wrote: > > On Thursday 16 Jun 2011 15:38:30 Allan Gottlieb wrote: > >> I have an htc incredible and want to use it to act as a modem for my > >> gentoo laptop. [snip...] > >> I haven't seen any howtos for tethering directly with gentoo. > > > > I don't have your phone to provide detailed instructions, but this is how > > I have tethered phones in the past to connect to the Internet using IrDA > > or Bluetooth. > > thanks for the information. The forum post paul sent me too claims that > this is very easy with a usb connection. But to date, I haven't got it > working. Others definitely have so there is probably something wrong > with configuration (quite possible the kernel). > > thanks again, > allan Well, what I'm suggesting should also work with a usb connection (instead of bluetooth or IrDA) but unlike what is suggested in the forum I would not think that it needs the particular MSWindows usb modem driver to create a virtual ethernet interface. Unless that is the phone is locked down in its firmware and will not run DUN - over bluetooth you would use 'sdptool browse to find out what services the phone offers. I think that Linux *should* be able to manage the connection directly over ppp, using what ever usb device udev creates when you connect your phone. However, I don't have access to such phone to try it out on this end. Good luck. :-) -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
