Re: [gentoo-user] Network chip always comes up eth1 on 1-year-old Dell Inspiron 530

2008-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 13 July 2008, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 08:44:51AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote
>
> > > chip *ALWAYS* comes up as eth1.
> >
> > Udev is doing this. If you have removed the second card,
> > delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, otherwise edit
> > the file to switch the assignments for the two NICs.
>
>   Thanks.  A "new and improved helpfull feature" that could've done
> without.

It's a trade-off for me. The interface might get a stupid name but at 
least it's the *same* stupid name every time, as opposed to the old 
method where interfaces were liable to change names based on what you 
did with your hardware this morning or the phases of the moon...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is
> > something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar
> > and zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.
>
> Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on
> Windows, but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to
> kill.

Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think 
installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a 
program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install 
itself.

When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by 
themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by 
one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes 
it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be 
the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.

When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show 
them wubi... :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Network chip always comes up eth1 on 1-year-old Dell Inspiron 530

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:55:56 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:

> > Udev is doing this. If you have removed the second card,
> > delete /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules, otherwise edit the
> > file to switch the assignments for the two NICs.  
> 
>   Thanks.  A "new and improved helpfull feature" that could've done
> without.

It's hardly new, it's been around for some years. It is helpful if you
have two NICs because it means they are named consistently, which is
better than having your private network connected to the Internet
because the kernel decided to load the modules in a different order.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Gentoo User
Hi,
I  don't want to make your work bad.
After thinking it over I think it is actually a useful script, because
it adds  a little bit more security to editing the package.use file
(I'm always fearing the day when I'm writing echo "stuff" >
/etc/portage/package.use").
But do you know that package.use can also be a directory which can
contain several files storing the use flags?



Geralt.

On 7/13/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gentoo User wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > the question is: is it really necessary? If I want to add a new entry
> > into this file I just call echo "category/package myflags" >>
> > /etc/portage/package.use and if I want to edit them I just call my
> > favorite editor, use its search capabilities and change the line.
> > So I don't really see the benefit of a command line tool, since I
> > still need to write flags, package and everything and the tools I'm
> > using now (mostly echo, grep and vim) to do this are not very
> > complicated and most of the typing goes to the use flags and package
> > name anyway.
> >
> >
> > Just my opinion.
> >
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> > Geralt
> >
> >
> > On 7/12/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > greetings earthlings,
> > >
> > >  i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to
> > > easily manage package.use file, so i did my own. now i started to think
> > > that, if there really is not any, my creation would be sufficient
> (although
> > > possibly buggy) for most users who wish to have "easy" control over
> > > package.use.
> > >
> > >  yes, i know this is not the best place to "announce" but, this is not
> an
> > > real announcement, this is an query for an superior solution which would
> > > show my creation to be useless/dublicate/stupid. (if mine is
> useless/stupid
> > > it would be nice, so i would not have to maintain it and i also could
> use
> > > some real software).
> > >
> > >  -- husku
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>  well, i cant argue with you on that. although, i also used
> vim,grep,sed,echo to change my flags. still i felt i needes an easier way,
> thats why i wrote it and thats why i think this is "easier" than
> vim+handwork. basicly that script is only an interface to sed,echo,grep and
> equery.
>
>  did you try to use it? id bet i could get changes applied much more rapidly
> with that script than with vim or echo. (can not necessarily compete with
> echo if you are sure it is an new addition)
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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:10:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

> d-  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd

This is weird, the ownership is correct (you need to belong to the
plugdev group to use automounted devices) but the permissions certainly
are not. Do you have any rules for this in /etc/udev/rules.d?


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 19:10:12 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I re-emerged udev and noticed this little foot note:
> 
> mount options for directory /dev are no longer
> set in /etc/udev/udev.conf, but in /etc/fstab
> as for other directories.
> 
> I don't have anything in fstab for /udev.  This is what mount reports:

Neither do I, even on a brand new, up to date install.

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount
> udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw,nosuid)

/dev is mounted, which is what matters. If /dev were not mounting you'd
have far more serious problems that reading DVDs.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Mikko Husari

Gentoo User wrote:

Hi,
I  don't want to make your work bad.
After thinking it over I think it is actually a useful script, because
it adds  a little bit more security to editing the package.use file
(I'm always fearing the day when I'm writing echo "stuff" >
/etc/portage/package.use").
But do you know that package.use can also be a directory which can
contain several files storing the use flags?



Geralt.

On 7/13/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Gentoo User wrote:



Hi,

the question is: is it really necessary? If I want to add a new entry
into this file I just call echo "category/package myflags" >>
/etc/portage/package.use and if I want to edit them I just call my
favorite editor, use its search capabilities and change the line.
So I don't really see the benefit of a command line tool, since I
still need to write flags, package and everything and the tools I'm
using now (mostly echo, grep and vim) to do this are not very
complicated and most of the typing goes to the use flags and package
name anyway.


Just my opinion.


Best regards

Geralt


On 7/12/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


  

greetings earthlings,

 i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to
easily manage package.use file, so i did my own. now i started to think
that, if there really is not any, my creation would be sufficient


(although


possibly buggy) for most users who wish to have "easy" control over
package.use.

 yes, i know this is not the best place to "announce" but, this is not


an


real announcement, this is an query for an superior solution which would
show my creation to be useless/dublicate/stupid. (if mine is


useless/stupid


it would be nice, so i would not have to maintain it and i also could


use


some real software).

 -- husku






 well, i cant argue with you on that. although, i also used
vim,grep,sed,echo to change my flags. still i felt i needes an easier way,
thats why i wrote it and thats why i think this is "easier" than
vim+handwork. basicly that script is only an interface to sed,echo,grep and
equery.

 did you try to use it? id bet i could get changes applied much more rapidly
with that script than with vim or echo. (can not necessarily compete with
echo if you are sure it is an new addition)
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i did not know that, (also the script ignores make.conf ). how does that 
directory approach work, any documentation about it?


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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD and changing permissions

2008-07-13 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 17:10:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

  

d-  2 ivman plugdev  112 2008-07-12 03:08 hdd



This is weird, the ownership is correct (you need to belong to the
plugdev group to use automounted devices) but the permissions certainly
are not. Do you have any rules for this in /etc/udev/rules.d?


  


This is what I found that even mentions DVD in the file:  I'm only 
including the lines that contain DVD.


From /etc/udev/rules.d/65-permissions.rules

KERNEL=="pktcdvd|pktcdvd[0-9]*", GROUP="cdrom", MODE="660"

From /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules:

# Optiarc_DVD_RW_AD-7200A (pci-:00:09.0-ide-1:1)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:09.0-ide-1:1", 
SYMLINK+="dvd1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-:00:09.0-ide-1:1", 
SYMLINK+="dvdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"


From /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev-default.rules:

KERNEL=="pktcdvd[0-9]*",NAME="pktcdvd/%k"
KERNEL=="pktcdvd",NAME="pktcdvd/control"

Those are the only ones I can find.  I used the find part of Konqeror to 
do the search.  Anything odd that you see?  It looks like it should go 
to the group cdrom and have permissions set to 660 to me.


Ideas?

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Arttu V.
On 7/13/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to
> easily manage package.use file, so i did my own. now i started to think
> that, if there really is not any, my creation would be sufficient
> (although possibly buggy) for most users who wish to have "easy" control
> over package.use.

How does that compare to things like flagedit (available in portage)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:19:56 +0300, Mikko Husari wrote:

> greetings earthlings,

What about the rest of us?

> i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to 
> easily manage package.use file,


% eix flagedit
[I] app-portage/flagedit
 Available versions:  0.0.5 0.0.7
 Installed versions:  0.0.7(19:47:47 01/11/07)
 Homepage:http://damz.net/flagedit/
 Description: CLI use flags and keyword editor, for system
  wide or /etc/portage files

It works well, provided package.use and package.keywords are files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Mikko Husari

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 00:19:56 +0300, Mikko Husari wrote:

  

greetings earthlings,



What about the rest of us?

  
i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to 
easily manage package.use file,




% eix flagedit
[I] app-portage/flagedit
 Available versions:  0.0.5 0.0.7
 Installed versions:  0.0.7(19:47:47 01/11/07)
 Homepage:http://damz.net/flagedit/
 Description: CLI use flags and keyword editor, for system
  wide or /etc/portage files

It works well, provided package.use and package.keywords are files.


  
thanks for pointing out better solution. it looks nice and has more 
features. it would be excellent if it could "guess" the pkg-name with 
'emerge -s' like mine does.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Mikko Husari

Arttu V. wrote:

On 7/13/08, Mikko Husari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

i did not found (nor did i look for long enough) any tools/scripts to
easily manage package.use file, so i did my own. now i started to think
that, if there really is not any, my creation would be sufficient
(although possibly buggy) for most users who wish to have "easy" control
over package.use.



How does that compare to things like flagedit (available in portage)?

  

well, flagedit is much better :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:50:39 +0300, Mikko Husari wrote:

> thanks for pointing out better solution. it looks nice and has more 
> features. it would be excellent if it could "guess" the pkg-name with 
> 'emerge -s' like mine does.

How about a wrapper script that uses the guessing from your script then
passes the correct name to flagedit?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Mikko Husari

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 15:50:39 +0300, Mikko Husari wrote:

  
thanks for pointing out better solution. it looks nice and has more 
features. it would be excellent if it could "guess" the pkg-name with 
'emerge -s' like mine does.



How about a wrapper script that uses the guessing from your script then
passes the correct name to flagedit?


  
it would be so easy to implement the feature straight to flagedit, so it 
would not make sense to use a wrapper. well, i can live with just using 
my script but someone should make an feature request to flagedits 
maintainer, im too lazy to request it my self :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] tar and huge tarballs used for back-ups

2008-07-13 Thread Arttu V.
On 7/12/08, Arttu V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> then see if I get around later to try with cdrtools instead of wodim (cdrkit).

Ok, my final conclusion on splitpipe: it compiles but won't work for me.

I've produced about a dozen coasters while having tried some
combinations of two different machines/arches (x86, amd64, both with
stable core packages), two different burners (trusty last millennium
HP CD-Writer+ 9100 series and newish el cheapo LG branded
do-everything hyper-duper-combo thingie), two different tars (GNU tar
and star) and two different pieces of burning software (cdrkit and
cdrtools).

Consistently, the failure is at the end of the first volume (disc),
where splitpipe must have been writing some broken bytes at the end of
the volume (possibly miscalculating something first?) -- which it
realizes when it does the reading (as joinpipe) and then there's the
barf ("Fatal:" probably from splitpipe) and then bad input propagates
to tar/zip/others which join in in the mass-barfing contest:

UUID of this session is '35a141883a219349 0c2b7efad2ffdaf7'
joinpipe: volume was started on Sun Jul 13 16:38:38 EEST 2008
joinpipe: found volume 1, as expected
star: WARNING: skipping leading '/' on filenames.
Fatal: during read of a stretch of input: Input/output error
star: Tar file too small (amount: 101 bytes).
star: Unexpected EOF on input.
star: Cannot recover from error - exiting.
star: 68552 blocks + 5733 bytes (total of 701978213 bytes = 685525.59k).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 13 July 2008, Mikko Husari wrote:
> i did not know that, (also the script ignores make.conf ). how does
> that directory approach work, any documentation about it?

man 5 portage

see the section "/etc/portage/"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:38:07 +0200, Gentoo User wrote:

> (I'm always fearing the day when I'm writing echo "stuff" >
> /etc/portage/package.use").

Put "set -o noclobber" in your profile.


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[gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group,

I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject lines 
that run out of space on the line provided.

Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should suffice 
and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately is of no value 
to him.

Maxim


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
> Hi group,
>
> I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject lines
> that run out of space on the line provided.

what is 'overly long' and what space are you talking about?

>
> Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should
> suffice and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately is
> of no value to him.

so you are opening mails if the subject is a sentence no matter what the 
sentence is telling you?

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Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread Dale

Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

On Sonntag, 13. Juli 2008, maxim wexler wrote:
  

Hi group,

I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject lines
that run out of space on the line provided.



what is 'overly long' and what space are you talking about?

  

Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should
suffice and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately is
of no value to him.



so you are opening mails if the subject is a sentence no matter what the 
sentence is telling you?


  


I prefer as much info as possible myself.  Sometimes the subject can be 
one thing but because there is little info in it, it turns out to be 
something else.  Of course, a error message can be really nice too.  
It's good if you are searching for the error you are having.  I would 
rather have a long one than a short one with not enough info to know 
whether I can help or not.  Of course, the one for this is short but 
doesn't mention anything about others being to long.  I was hoping to 
see someone suggesting that people should have better than "need help" 
or something.  Maybe it should have been " can we have shorter subject 
lines please" or something like that.  Of course, that means it is 
longer.  LOL


I also wish the forum subject lines could be longer and have a special 
spot for "solved" as well.  That is their problem tho. 


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread felix
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:40:08AM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:

> I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject lines 
> that run out of space on the line provided.
> 
> Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should suffice 
> and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately is of no 
> value to him.

Under what circumstances does too much info hurt?  It's not like a PhD
thesis, it's just, say, 10 words instead of 2 or 3.

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Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 12:23:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Under what circumstances does too much info hurt?  It's not like a PhD
> thesis, it's just, say, 10 words instead of 2 or 3.

When viewed on a narrow screen and the first few words convey no useful
information on their own. I think the important point is that subject
lines should be concise and succinct. Long is not a problem in itself, as
long as every word is relevant. Subjects line "Please help me! I have a
problem with xyz" can be as useless as "urgent problem".


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Re: [gentoo-user] proper subject lines

2008-07-13 Thread b.n.

Dale ha scritto:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:  

I prefer as much info as possible myself.  Sometimes the subject can be 
one thing but because there is little info in it, it turns out to be 
something else.  Of course, a error message can be really nice too.  
It's good if you are searching for the error you are having.  I would 
rather have a long one than a short one with not enough info to know 
whether I can help or not. 


+1

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[gentoo-user] [OT] ping latency

2008-07-13 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I noticed that when I ping my router using Linux I get time=3.5ms for say 
packets -s 4096.  When I run the same test using MSWindows I get 1ms perhaps 
2ms but no more.

Before I discard MSWindows ping results as flawed, would you know of a good 
reason to explain this difference?  Aren't all pings the same?  Why is Linux 
showing greater latency?
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Re: [gentoo-user] OK

2008-07-13 Thread Mick
On Sunday 13 July 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:40:08AM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
> > I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject
> > lines that run out of space on the line provided.
> >
> > Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should
> > suffice and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately
> > is of no value to him.
>
> Under what circumstances does too much info hurt?  It's not like a PhD
> thesis, it's just, say, 10 words instead of 2 or 3.

Sorry!  Couldn't resist. ;-) 

I had a guy working for me who used to write the whole bl**dy email in the 
frigging Subject: field!  Agh!  When I asked him why didn't he use the 
body of the message like 'normal' people do, he argued that he intended 
saving me the time of opening the message to read it.  Sometimes you just 
can't win.

Anyway, as others asked - how long is too long for this purpose?

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[gentoo-user] Re: K

2008-07-13 Thread Chris Walters

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Mick wrote:
| On Sunday 13 July 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|> On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 10:40:08AM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
|>> I would like to raise my voice against the use of overly long subject
|>> lines that run out of space on the line provided.
|>>
|>> Complete sentences are not necessary. A few, well chosen words should
|>> suffice and spare the user the nuisance of opening mail that ultimately
|>> is of no value to him.
|
| Sorry!  Couldn't resist. ;-)
|
| I had a guy working for me who used to write the whole bl**dy email in the
| frigging Subject: field!  Agh!  When I asked him why didn't he use the
| body of the message like 'normal' people do, he argued that he intended
| saving me the time of opening the message to read it.  Sometimes you just
| can't win.
|
| Anyway, as others asked - how long is too long for this purpose?

LOL!  On another list once, someone posted the whole message in the subject
line, and again in the body of the message.  It was an error, and he
apologized, but your story there reminded me of that...

IMO, I haven't seen too many overly long subject lines, but I have seen several
overly short ones.  There has to be a Happy Medium (tm) out there.  Once we
find one, we can just ask our questions of her... lol! ;)

Regards,
Chris
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[gentoo-user] USE flag question

2008-07-13 Thread »Q«
A few days ago, I used eselect to switch profiles, from
default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop.  

A lot of USE flags were removed from my make.conf, including
the cpu-optimizations such as sse and mmx.  After re-compiling a few
things and getting warnings from the ebuilds that video and audio 
playback would be choppy without those flags, I put them back into my
flags in make.conf.  If I use ufed to manage the flags, as I'm used to
doing, it takes them back out when I save changes.

It seems strange to me that the profile switch should affect these
flags.  I think I'm overlooking/misunderstanding something, but I'm
not sure what to ask.  Any enlightenment (including links to
enlightenment) would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Gentoo User
>  > (I'm always fearing the day when I'm writing echo "stuff" >
>  > /etc/portage/package.use").
>
>
> Put "set -o noclobber" in your profile.
Cool, thanks :-)
But is there a way to overwrite an existing file when this option is enabled?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Simplistic bash-script to manage package.use

2008-07-13 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:19:51 +0200, Gentoo User wrote:

> > Put "set -o noclobber" in your profile.  
> Cool, thanks :-)
> But is there a way to overwrite an existing file when this option is
> enabled?

echo "stuff" >|file


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[gentoo-user] Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1

2008-07-13 Thread John covici
Hi.  I am having problems compiling gcc vrsions 4.2.4 or 4.3.1-r1.
The errors are very similar -- here is what I am getting when
compiling 4.3.1-r1.


libtool: compile:  
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/./gcc/xgcc 
-B/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/./gcc/ 
-B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ -B/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/lib/ -isystem 
/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/include -isystem /usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/sys-include 
-DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. 
-I/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap -I. -Wall 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -O2 -g -O2 -mtune=nocona -pipe -MT 
mf-hooks2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/mf-hooks2.Tpo -c 
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c  
-fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/mf-hooks2.o
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c: 
In function '__mfwrap_getmntent':
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2082:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2082:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2083:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2083:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2084:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2084:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2085:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2085:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2086:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2090:
 warning: implicit declaration of function 'getmntent'
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2090:
 warning: assignment makes pointer from integer without a cast
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2096:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2096:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2097:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2097:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2098:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2098:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2099:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2099:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/gcc-4.3.1/libmudflap/mf-hooks2.c:2100:
 error: dereferencing pointer to incomplete type
make[4]: *** [mf-hooks2.lo] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[2]: *** [all] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build/i686-pc-linux-gnu/libmudflap'
make[1]: *** [all-target-libmudflap] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1/work/build'
make: *** [profiledbootstrap] Error 2
 * 
 * ERROR: sys-devel/gcc-4.3.1-r1 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 4560:  Called toolchain_src_compile
 * environment, line 5075:  Called gcc_src_compile
 * environment, line 2924:  Called gcc_do_make
 * environment, line 2754:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS}" STAGE1_CFLAGS="${STAGE1_CFLAGS}" 
LIBPATH="${LIBPATH}" BOOT_CFLAGS="${BOOT_CFLAGS}" ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET} || die 
"emake failed with ${GCC_MAKE_TARGET}";
 *  The die message:
 *   emake failed with profiledbootstrap
 * 
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if 
relevant.
 * A comp

Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-13 Thread liu shukui
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think
> installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a
> program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install
> itself.
>
> When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by
> themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by
> one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes
> it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be
> the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.
>
> When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show
> them wubi... :-)
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[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1

2008-07-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

John covici wrote:

Hi.  I am having problems compiling gcc vrsions 4.2.4 or 4.3.1-r1.
The errors are very similar -- here is what I am getting when
compiling 4.3.1-r1.


For GCC 4.3.x you need to update sys-libs/glibc.  You need at least 2.7-r2.

I'm using GCC 4.3.x on my system and it emerged fine after updating to 
the latest ~arch glibc.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1

2008-07-13 Thread John covici
on Monday 07/14/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > John covici wrote:
 > > Hi.  I am having problems compiling gcc vrsions 4.2.4 or 4.3.1-r1.
 > > The errors are very similar -- here is what I am getting when
 > > compiling 4.3.1-r1.
 > 
 > For GCC 4.3.x you need to update sys-libs/glibc.  You need at least 2.7-r2.
 > 
 > I'm using GCC 4.3.x on my system and it emerged fine after updating to 
 > the latest ~arch glibc.
 > 
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I wonder why there is no dependency -- if this is necessary?



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[gentoo-user] Re: Problems compiling gcc 4.2.4 and 4.3.1-r1

2008-07-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

John covici wrote:

on Monday 07/14/2008 Nikos Chantziaras([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote
 > John covici wrote:
 > > Hi.  I am having problems compiling gcc vrsions 4.2.4 or 4.3.1-r1.
 > > The errors are very similar -- here is what I am getting when
 > > compiling 4.3.1-r1.
 > 
 > For GCC 4.3.x you need to update sys-libs/glibc.  You need at least 2.7-r2.
 > 
 > I'm using GCC 4.3.x on my system and it emerged fine after updating to 
 > the latest ~arch glibc.
 > 
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I wonder why there is no dependency -- if this is necessary?


There is such a dependency for ~amd64.  I was under the impression that 
this is not amd64 specific.


In other words, I'm on 64-bit and updating glibc fixed the compilation 
errors.  That means it might not fix anything for you if you're on 32-bit :P


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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flag question

2008-07-13 Thread Sebastian Günther
* »Q« ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [14.07.08 01:16]:
> A few days ago, I used eselect to switch profiles, from
> default-linux/x86/2007.0/desktop to default/linux/x86/2008.0/desktop.  
> 

As I did...

> A lot of USE flags were removed from my make.conf, including
> the cpu-optimizations such as sse and mmx.  After re-compiling a few
> things and getting warnings from the ebuilds that video and audio 
> playback would be choppy without those flags, I put them back into my
> flags in make.conf.  If I use ufed to manage the flags, as I'm used to
> doing, it takes them back out when I save changes.
> 

ufed is the bad guy, I think the stable version is not able to handle 
the new profile layout correctly.

> It seems strange to me that the profile switch should affect these
> flags.  I think I'm overlooking/misunderstanding something, but I'm
> not sure what to ask.  Any enlightenment (including links to
> enlightenment) would be appreciated.
> 

Use ufed-0.40-r10 from ~ and your use flags are not getting removed.

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] tar and huge tarballs used for back-ups

2008-07-13 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 17:39:17 +0300
"Arttu V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 7/12/08, Arttu V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > then see if I get around later to try with cdrtools instead of
> > wodim (cdrkit).
> 
> Ok, my final conclusion on splitpipe: it compiles but won't work for
> me.
> 
> I've produced about a dozen coasters while having tried some
> combinations of two different machines/arches (x86, amd64, both with
> stable core packages), two different burners (trusty last millennium
> HP CD-Writer+ 9100 series and newish el cheapo LG branded
> do-everything hyper-duper-combo thingie), two different tars (GNU tar
> and star) and two different pieces of burning software (cdrkit and
> cdrtools).
> 
> Consistently, the failure is at the end of the first volume (disc),
> where splitpipe must have been writing some broken bytes at the end of
> the volume (possibly miscalculating something first?) -- which it
> realizes when it does the reading (as joinpipe) and then there's the
> barf ("Fatal:" probably from splitpipe) and then bad input propagates
> to tar/zip/others which join in in the mass-barfing contest:
> 
> UUID of this session is '35a141883a219349 0c2b7efad2ffdaf7'
> joinpipe: volume was started on Sun Jul 13 16:38:38 EEST 2008
> joinpipe: found volume 1, as expected
> star: WARNING: skipping leading '/' on filenames.
> Fatal: during read of a stretch of input: Input/output error
> star: Tar file too small (amount: 101 bytes).
> star: Unexpected EOF on input.
> star: Cannot recover from error - exiting.
> star: 68552 blocks + 5733 bytes (total of 701978213 bytes =
> 685525.59k).
> 

Dirk, Arttu,

Sorry for the late reply. I was out for the weekend.

I've tested splitpipe with DVDs on stable amd64 only. I had no
problems. Later today I'll give the improved ebuild a try.
Currently I have several blank DVDs only, so I can't send any CD burning
results.

I have some questions:

   Dirk:
 - can you post the compile error, please?

   Arttu:
 - Can you, please, post the command you used to make the test backups?
 - Did you try splitpipe on DVDs or on CDs only?

   Dirk, Arttu:
 - Should we get off-list on this subject or at least open a new
thread? 


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