[gentoo-user] Remplacement for FPM

2006-11-17 Thread Xavier-Francois Roblot
Hi, I saw this morning that FPM is slated for removal from portage with
the forthcoming removal of Gnome 1.x. 

Can someone point me to a viable replacement for it? I need something
that can: 1) store passwords (obviously); 2) generate passwords; 3) have
launchers as FPM does. The possibility to import FPM passwords would be
a nice feature to have to :)

Xavier

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[gentoo-user] Re: Resize /

2006-11-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
· jakommo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Listmembers,
> 
> I have a problem the / Partition on my system is to smal, is there a save
> way to resize it?
> I know mounting other partitions to e.g. /usr will help but the / is only
> 4,6G so it will help only temporarily.

4.6G for /? That's ridiculous. It doesn't need to be larger than
512M, and even that's way too large.

Well, it doesn't need to be larger than this, if /usr, /var, /opt
and /home are on seperate partitions, just like they should be. With
EVMS or LVM, that's not at all a problem. I'd like to suggest, that
you checkout LVM or EVMS and use that, when you re-setup a system.

Anyway. With EVMS you can resize even /.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Richard Fish wrote:
> On 11/16/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did my sync tonight and when I checked for updates I got this:
>>
>> > !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all
>> > !!! masked or don't exist:
>> > net-im/ymessenger
>>
>> Is there not going to be a Yahoo messenger anymore?  I cranked up Kopete
>> but I sort of like Yahoo better.  If it is going, anybody know why?
>
> That's correct.  It is masked pending removal along with all other
> gnome 1.x packages:
>
> /home/rjf > emerge --oneshot -v ymessenger
> Calculating dependencies
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "ymessenger" have been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - net-im/ymessenger-1.0.4.1 (masked by: package.mask, missing keyword)
> # Saleem Abdulrasool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (16 Nov 2006)
> # GNOME 1.x Removal Mask (15 Dec 2006)
>
> - net-im/ymessenger-1.0.4.1-r1 (masked by: package.mask, missing keyword)
> - net-im/ymessenger-1.0.6.1 (masked by: package.mask)
>
> For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man
> page or
> refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>
>> I checked the change log and even searched a bit for a bug report.  I
>> didn't see anything.
>
> The reasons for p.masked stuff is listed as comments above the masking
> in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.
>
> -Richard

Thanks for sharing because mine doesn't say anything that you posted. 
Maybe I synced at the wrong time.  This all mine has:

> net-ftp/deadftp
> net-im/ayttm
> net-im/gnophone
> net-im/ymessenger
> net-misc/gnomba
> net-misc/pxes
> net-nds/directoryadministrator


What does ymessenger have to do with Gnome?  I use KDE and still used
Yahoo messenger.  Would getting Yahoo to write a new messenger help
any?  Kopete is growing on me though.  I like that I can log into
multiple accounts at the same time.  I just need to figure out how to
make it use Seamonkey instead of Konqueror to access email and such.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] drupal masked

2006-11-17 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/17/06, Uwe Thiem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Curious about yet another possible CMS vulnerability, I searched the gentoo
forums and google for it. All I could reveal are old issues from last year.

So, anybody in the know as to why all versions of drupal were masked?


Because even though it is an old bug, it hasn't been fixed.  Looks
like Christel masked it after several months of inactivity.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/17/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

any?  Kopete is growing on me though.  I like that I can log into
multiple accounts at the same time.  I just need to figure out how to
make it use Seamonkey instead of Konqueror to access email and such.


Does KDE Control Center -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser -> Web
Browser not work for kopete?

-Richard
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Re: [gentoo-user] Accidentally deleted contents of /sbin

2006-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:35:36 -0500, James Colby wrote:

> Does emerge -e world add anything to the world file?

No.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Richard Fish wrote:
> On 11/17/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> any?  Kopete is growing on me though.  I like that I can log into
>> multiple accounts at the same time.  I just need to figure out how to
>> make it use Seamonkey instead of Konqueror to access email and such.
>
> Does KDE Control Center -> KDE Components -> Component Chooser -> Web
> Browser not work for kopete?
>
> -Richard

It sure did.  Now for another question.  I can't figure out how to make
it save a copy of my IMs.  Where is that?  It is in my package.use file
and I reemerged it as well, also logged out of KDE and back in.  Still
can't find it.  Here is my USE info for kopete:

> [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.5-r2  USE="arts connectionstatus
> crypt groupwise history jingle sametime ssl yahoo -addbookmarks -alias
> -autoreplace -contactnotes -debug -gadu -highlight -irc
> -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -latex -netmeeting -nowlistening
> -slp -sms -statistics -texteffect -translator -webpresence -winpopup
> -xinerama -xscreensaver"


Thanks for the help.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multi-user pop3 mail delivery

2006-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:38:12 +1300, Ralph Slooten wrote:

> Another problem I am having is that when two users are specified, one
> existing, and another (non-existing, or even another domain) the
> message goes to postmaster, and not to the specified user.

Are you running a local MTA? If o, this is set in the MTA's config; for
example in Postfix you would set "luser_relay=someuser".


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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:15:43 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:

> > I checked the change log and even searched a bit for a bug report.  I
> > didn't see anything.  
> 
> The reasons for p.masked stuff is listed as comments above the masking
> in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask.

Upcoming package removals are also listed in Gentoo Weekly News.

http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/


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Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread Benno Schulenberg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> How can I tell ahead of time or quickly what the vintage of a
> webpage that looks interesting is?

In general: you can't.  If a page does not contain the date it was 
made, there's no other way to find out.

> Here is an example page:
>  http://dvr.about.com/od/capturetvwithacomputer/ht/htnti.htm
>
> How can I tell quickly when this was written?

This particular one's easy: it contains a meta tag with 21-Aug-2006 
in it.  Use Ctrl+U in Firefox or Konqueror to see the source text.

> A related point is how accurate is it to use the google advanced
> search and specify `last 3 mnths' or the like?

Zero.  Several times I've tried using it, but still pages and posts 
from 2005, 2004 and older show up.  It's useless.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Benno Schulenberg wrote:
>> Here is an example page:
>>  http://dvr.about.com/od/capturetvwithacomputer/ht/htnti.htm
>>
>> How can I tell quickly when this was written?

Well, just to add more ideas to this thread, you can always check the "Date" 
header returned by the
HTTP protocol after requesting that URL: (put this in one line)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ printf "GET /od/capturetvwithacomputer/ht/htnti.htm 
HTTP/1.0\nHost:
dvr.about.com\n\n" | nc dvr.about.com 80 | head |grep -E --color=yes ^Date
Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:06:52 GMT

(try removing the head and grep at the end, and replace by less, so you can see 
the headers and the
html in the request's body).

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Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
> Well, just to add more ideas to this thread, you can always check the "Date" 
> header returned by the

I forgot to mention that, depending on the web server, the date might have 
nothing to do with the
requested file... additionally, check all the headers, as some webservers do 
provide extra
informacion about a document.

In short: check the headers. Firefox + webdeveloper extension can show you the 
headers more easily.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread Alan E. Davis

Galeon (web browser) included "bookmarklets" (search google).  One
bookmarklet checks "page freshness".  It didn't work on frames, but
apparently there is a version that does work on frames.  I don't know
whether the bookmarklet is accurate, however.  Perhaps it uses methods
mentioned above to determine the date of inception of a page.

[ Galeon is much faster for me than any other browser
for a number of reasons.  It was inevitable, therefore, that its
development has been discontinued.

Alan Davis

On 11/17/06, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> Well, just to add more ideas to this thread, you can always check the "Date" 
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I forgot to mention that, depending on the web server, the date might have 
nothing to do with the
requested file... additionally, check all the headers, as some webservers do 
provide extra
informacion about a document.

In short: check the headers. Firefox + webdeveloper extension can show you the 
headers more easily.

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[gentoo-user] Re: How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!

2006-11-17 Thread James
Daevid Vincent  daevid.com> writes:


> I always found this annoying...

> How come when I emerge something, my 'esearch' isn't updated until the next
> time I do an 'esync'? 


eupdatedb?
man eupdatedb

When I'm munging around on gentoo, I use this all inclusive string as an alias
env-update && source /etc/profile && etc-update && update-eix && eupdatedb

I set an alias and it pretty much catches everthing.

ymmv,


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[gentoo-user] Re: 7800 GTX: opensource driver stable?

2006-11-17 Thread James
Richard Fish  asmallpond.org> writes:


> > I'm not looking for the latest video card, just one with good performance
> > and open source drivers.

> You won't get hardware 3D with nvidia and open source drivers.  So
> you'll either have to accept the proprietary drivers (which are pretty
> good IMO) if you want hardware 3D, or prefer an ATI card supported by
> the radeon driver.  But I have no current experience with ATI, so
> others will have to comment about that side of the world.

Hello Richard,

Yea, I guess that's why I suggested the nvidia. NObody seems to want to
state how well/poor opensource ATI drivers code is working. When I read,
what I can find from googling, it's either dated or confusing.
I'd go with an ATI card and opensource drivers, if somebody would 
indicate a card that gives reasonble performance, for less than $200.00 usd.

I leaning towards the nvidia 7800 based card. Good performance, reasonable
price.  Here is the best reference I found  on building a cost effective
 gaming system:

 http://compreviews.about.com/od/tutorials/a/DIYBudgetGamePC.htm

My other concerns are how well is the mobo supported under linux?  Since gaming
systems run hot, cooling and lm_sensors support seems critical in putting
together a gaming system. I not whether I should used a 'water cooler' or if
force air cooling is sufficient. If I used a water cooler, should it also cool
the gpu on the graphics card?  I do not intend to 'overclock' the graphics card
at this time. If I cannot determine that this mobo (MSI K9N SLI Platinum) is
linux (lm_sensors) friendly, then maybe somebody can/will recommend another
mobo that support's SLI and amd64 processors and is not too expensive?



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Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!

2006-11-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 17 November 2006 08:01, Iain Buchanan wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 22:27 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> > I always found this annoying...
> >
> > How come when I emerge something, my 'esearch' isn't updated until the
> > next time I do an 'esync'?
>
> because esearch trawls through /usr/portage only when you tell it to,
> and stores it's info in a database somewhere.

As you may know installed packages aren't stored in /usr/portage. They are 
installed in the vdb (/var/db/pkg). Apparently esearch doesn't look there 
either. As an extra bonus eupdatedb (which does look go through the vdb too) 
is a *lot* slower that its eix equivalent (update-eix). ;) So can anyone 
mention any advantage of esearch compared to eix?

[SNIP]
> > Then if I do an 'esync'
[SNIP]
> you shouldn't have to re-emerge it.  portage knows about the most recent
> version all the time, regardless of what esearch shows you.
>
> > *  www-apps/trac
> >   Latest version available: 0.10.1
> >   Latest version installed: 0.9.6
>
> [snip]
>
> this doesn't mean that you will have to re-install.  (someone can
> correct me here, but) I think this means that 0.10.1 is available, but
> not installed on your system probably because of masking.

He said he ran `esync` rather than `eupdatedb` so yes it does seem to mean 
that a new version of trac has been stabilized since the last time he ran 
`esync`.

PS: And oh.. I do agree with the rest of what you said Iain. :)

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[gentoo-user] Re: [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread reader
"Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> printf "GET /od/capturetvwithacomputer/ht/htnti.htm HTTP/1.0\nHost:
> dvr.about.com\n\n" | nc dvr.about.com 80 | head |grep -E --color=yes ^Date
> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 12:06:52 GMT

It appears your second post might be closer to right.  That the date
doesn't really reflect anything usefull.

Here I get:
  Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:48:57 GMT

Appears to be updated but not related to content.

Thanks for the developer extension tip.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!

2006-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 16:35:28 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

> As an extra bonus eupdatedb (which does look go through the vdb too) 
> is a *lot* slower that its eix equivalent (update-eix). ;) So can
> anyone mention any advantage of esearch compared to eix?

Not any more. esearch used to win on features but eix now has far more. I
especially like the ability to search all layman overlays.


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[gentoo-user] Re: [way OT] determining date of web pages

2006-11-17 Thread reader
"Alan E. Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Galeon (web browser) included "bookmarklets" (search google).  One
> bookmarklet checks "page freshness".  It didn't work on frames, but
> apparently there is a version that does work on frames.  I don't know
> whether the bookmarklet is accurate, however.  Perhaps it uses methods
> mentioned above to determine the date of inception of a page.
>
> [ Galeon is much faster for me than any other browser
> for a number of reasons.  It was inevitable, therefore, that its
> development has been discontinued.

Trying your pet I find I can't even import bookmarks and get the
expected result
thumbs down  : )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 7800 GTX: opensource driver stable?

2006-11-17 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/17/06, James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

My other concerns are how well is the mobo supported under linux?  Since gaming
systems run hot, cooling and lm_sensors support seems critical in putting
together a gaming system.


I haven't run across any new system that actually supported lm_sensors
in about 5 years.  Most modern chipsets seem to expose processor
temperatures and some fan settings through ACPI.  Somehow gkrellm is
also able to detect the GPU temperature in my system, but I haven't
figured out how yet... :-)


I not whether I should used a 'water cooler' or if
force air cooling is sufficient. If I used a water cooler, should it also cool
the gpu on the graphics card?


Air cooling is sufficient if you have a good case (/richard smiles at
his Antec P150).  The main reason to use water coolers is to reduce
the noise of the system, so you can use a much larger (and slower thus
quieter) fan to cool the GPU(s).  AMD procs run fairly cool, and both
the case and CPU fans on my AMD X2 4400 system are basically silent
even under high load.  But the system isn't anywhere near silent,
because of that damn GPU fan.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Resize /

2006-11-17 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Am Donnerstag, 16. November 2006 22:56 schrieb ext jakommo:
> 
>> I think I try that, but I wait for a moment where it doesn't metter if
>> something goes wrong.
> 
> There's always "telinit 1".
> 
> You mentioned it's a RAID 5, and I think Neil also asked wether you're using 
> LVM. If not, you should consider using it (or EVMS, which I prefer), so 
> that you don't run into these troubles again in the future.

The advantage of EVMS over LVM in this case would be, that he
wouldn't have to reformat/repartition and would still be able
to resize the partition/filesystem, wouldn't he?
 
> You may hear different opinions about that, but you should also consider 
> splitting your disks into several partitions (or better: logical volumes) 
> anyway.

Yes, that's of course a good hint!

> BTW: I never needed to resize /. 

Me too.

> Sometimes I need to grow /usr, but since I  
> chose reiserfs for it, it can be done while mounted.

Yes, with reiserfs, this can be done. But also with every other
"normal" filesystem besides ext2.

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[gentoo-user] Newly created user can't ssh in but others can?

2006-11-17 Thread Daevid Vincent
I have had my server for several years, I haven't added a new user in
probably 6 months or more. I tried to add one last night and all seemed
fine. However it can't login via ssh (not at a console, so I don't know
about that way) but existing accounts can. 

I've tried changing the passwd to 'foo' (just something simple) and I keep
getting the "Password:" prompt over and over. But if I ssh in to say, my
account, it works fine.

Ideas?

/home looks like:

drwxr-xr-x  4 joeusers  4096 Nov 17 11:42 joe
drwx--x--x 29 daevid users  4096 Nov 17 02:08 daevid 

daevid home # passwd joe
New UNIX password: 'foo'
BAD PASSWORD: it is WAY too short
Retype new UNIX password: 'foo'
passwd: password updated successfully

daevid home # ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: 'foo'
Password: 'foo'
...

daevid home # ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Password: 'secret'
Last login: Fri Nov 17 11:46:06 2006 from daevid.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Newly created user can't ssh in but others can?

2006-11-17 Thread Nangus Garba

Is  the user in the group that is allowed to ssh in? I think it is the sshd
group or something like that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Newly created user can't ssh in but others can?

2006-11-17 Thread Flophouse Joe

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Daevid Vincent wrote:


I have had my server for several years, I haven't added a new user in
probably 6 months or more. I tried to add one last night and all seemed
fine. However it can't login via ssh (not at a console, so I don't know
about that way) but existing accounts can.


It could be a bunch of things, so you're going to have to brainstorm.

Here are some quick ideas off the top of my head:

- Does the new user have a valid shell?

- If the new user's shell is valid and different from other users'
shells, then is the new user's shell listed in /etc/shells ?

- Is the PAM configuration known to be sane?  (i.e., have you confirmed
that there are no files in /etc/pam.d/ that need to be merged via
etc-update from a previous upgrade?)

- What sort of output does sshd send to the syslog when the new user
attempts to login?  Does the output change-- and reveal any hints-- if
sshd is run in the forground in debug mode?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Newly created user can't ssh in but others can?

2006-11-17 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/17/06, Daevid Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Ideas?


1. Check /var/log/messages for output from sshd.
2. Compare "id daevid" to "id joe".
3. Make sure ~joe/.ssh has permissions 700

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[gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Howard

Hey folks

I have found today that I cannot use the xine engine with amarok
anymore, I have recently updated kde and gcc [stable] while may/may
not be related however because I rarely reboot it could have been a
while since the offending package was merged.
The error message I recieve when trying to load the xine engine is
"/usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so no such file or dir"

However after some searching I have found this :
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locate libamarok
/usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.so
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_smb-device.la
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_smb-device.so
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so

The point seems to be that amarok is looking in the wrong place or the
files and been merged and gone to the wrong place or a link is
required or ...

I usually find that problems link this are down to me in some way, so
if someone could suggesta  course of action I would appreciate it.
I have tried re-emerging xine-lib and amarok but no change so far,
though I am going around in circles now.

cheers
   stu

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multi-user pop3 mail delivery

2006-11-17 Thread Ralph Slooten
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 13:38:12 +1300, Ralph Slooten wrote:
> 
>> Another problem I am having is that when two users are specified, one
>> existing, and another (non-existing, or even another domain) the
>> message goes to postmaster, and not to the specified user.
> 
> Are you running a local MTA? If o, this is set in the MTA's config; for
> example in Postfix you would set "luser_relay=someuser".

Yes, I can also specify this in the fetchmailrc, but it doesn't solve
the problem that userA does not receive his mail if userB is not known.
All this does (I believe) is forward the unknown users to another
machine. There is no other machine to forward to as all the users are on
this current machine itself. The unknown users I am referring to are
other users from different domains (not ours) included in the To and CC
fields.

I did a lot more searching around after my initial post, and have
discovered that this kind of setup is by default hopeless for multi-user
mail, and multi-drop is just a make-do solution for those who have no
choice. We will move this customer to an hosting company who does
support separate mailboxes themselves, allowing each individual user to
download only their mail, and not all in one go and have to re-split it
all up again. It's

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dorin
On Friday 17 November 2006 12:23, Dale wrote:
> It sure did.  Now for another question.  I can't figure out how to make
> it save a copy of my IMs.  Where is that?  It is in my package.use file
> and I reemerged it as well, also logged out of KDE and back in.  Still
>
> can't find it.  Here is my USE info for kopete:
> > [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.5-r2  USE="arts connectionstatus
> > crypt groupwise history jingle sametime ssl yahoo -addbookmarks -alias
> > -autoreplace -contactnotes -debug -gadu -highlight -irc
> > -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -latex -netmeeting -nowlistening
> > -slp -sms -statistics -texteffect -translator -webpresence -winpopup
> > -xinerama -xscreensaver"
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)

Just enable the history plugin in kopete: Settings | Configure Plugins...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Newly created user can't ssh in but others can?

2006-11-17 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Fri, 2006-11-17 at 12:02 -0800, Daevid Vincent wrote:
> I have had my server for several years, I haven't added a new user in
> probably 6 months or more. I tried to add one last night and all seemed
> fine. However it can't login via ssh (not at a console, so I don't know
> about that way) but existing accounts can. 
> 
> I've tried changing the passwd to 'foo' (just something simple) and I keep
> getting the "Password:" prompt over and over. But if I ssh in to say, my
> account, it works fine.
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> /home looks like:
> 
> drwxr-xr-x  4 joeusers  4096 Nov 17 11:42 joe
> drwx--x--x 29 daevid users  4096 Nov 17 02:08 daevid 
> 
> daevid home # passwd joe
> New UNIX password: 'foo'
> BAD PASSWORD: it is WAY too short
> Retype new UNIX password: 'foo'
> passwd: password updated successfully
> 
> daevid home # ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Password: 'foo'
> Password: 'foo'
> ...
> 
> daevid home # ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Password: 'secret'
> Last login: Fri Nov 17 11:46:06 2006 from daevid.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ 
> 
> 
> ÐÆ5ÏÐ 
> 

Just a guess, but is your new user listed in AllowUsers in sshd
configuration?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Gian Domeni Calgeer
Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 21:38 schrieb Stuart Howard:
> I have found today that I cannot use the xine engine with amarok
> anymore, I have recently updated kde and gcc [stable] while may/may
> not be related however because I rarely reboot it could have been a
> while since the offending package was merged.
> The error message I recieve when trying to load the xine engine is
> "/usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so no such file or dir"

Hi

Since I upgraded KDE, I also have this problem, so it is likely that it is 
related to the KDE 3.5.5 upgrade. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Richard Fish

On 11/17/06, Stuart Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

/usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so


What does ldd on this file report?  Any broken links?  Maybe a
revdep-rebuild is in order?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Dorin wrote:
> On Friday 17 November 2006 12:23, Dale wrote:
>   
>> It sure did.  Now for another question.  I can't figure out how to make
>> it save a copy of my IMs.  Where is that?  It is in my package.use file
>> and I reemerged it as well, also logged out of KDE and back in.  Still
>>
>> can't find it.  Here is my USE info for kopete:
>> 
>>> [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kopete-3.5.5-r2  USE="arts connectionstatus
>>> crypt groupwise history jingle sametime ssl yahoo -addbookmarks -alias
>>> -autoreplace -contactnotes -debug -gadu -highlight -irc
>>> -kdeenablefinal -kdehiddenvisibility -latex -netmeeting -nowlistening
>>> -slp -sms -statistics -texteffect -translator -webpresence -winpopup
>>> -xinerama -xscreensaver"
>>>   
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)  :-)
>> 
>
> Just enable the history plugin in kopete: Settings | Configure Plugins...
>
>   

OK.  I found that but maybe this is not what I am looking for.  Let's
say I chat with someone and later on I want to go read it again.  I
would like it to save a copy of the chat automatically without me having
to do it manually.  Yahoo does this.  Is this what I am looking for or
is it called something else?

Thanks for the help.  Just trying to get this to do what Yahoo does so I
can remove Yahoo.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] freenet6 used by somebody?

2006-11-17 Thread Dorin
On Thursday 16 November 2006 23:45, Hans de Hartog wrote:
> I'm trying to get freenet6-1.0.0 up and running.
> It's supposed to be stable (since august 2006?).
> But, if you have to do basic things like
> export CC=/usr/bin/cc
> before it compiles, I wouldn't call that "stable".
> Also, the distributed tspc.conf contains things
> that (by default) won't work (like sit1 in stead
> of sh^Hit0).
> And, the default location of tspc.conf has to
> be added to /etc/init.d/tspc
> Also, it (of course) needs ipv6 support in your
> kernel, but "emerge freenet6" does not check this.
> Again, I wouldn't call this "stable".
> Anybody ever used this???

I've been using freenet6 for a while, but I don't remember having to modify 
the CC variable. 
It seems to have the other problems you mentioned though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Howard

I have done a revdep-rebuild but it does not emerge any packages,
however it does report this which seems relavent

Checking dynamic linking consistency...
 --snip--
 broken /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la (requires
/usr/lib/liblcms.la)
 --snip--
done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.3_rebuild)

Assigning files to ebuilds... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.4_ebuilds)

Evaluating package order... done.
 (/root/.revdep-rebuild.5_order)

Dynamic linking on your system is consistent... All done.

ldd reports [though I have not used this before]
 ldd /usr/bin/amarok
   linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xe000)
   libkdecore.so.4 => /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdecore.so.4 (0xb7ce6000)
   libDCOP.so.4 => /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libDCOP.so.4 (0xb7cb4000)
   libresolv.so.2 => /lib/libresolv.so.2 (0xb7c87000)
   libutil.so.1 => /lib/libutil.so.1 (0xb7c83000)
   libart_lgpl_2.so.2 => /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so.2 (0xb7c6e000)
   libidn.so.11 => /usr/lib/libidn.so.11 (0xb7c3e000)
   libkdefx.so.4 => /usr/kde/3.5/lib/libkdefx.so.4 (0xb7c13000)
   libqt-mt.so.3 => /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 (0xb753c000)
   libmng.so.1 => /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0xb74dd000)
   libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0xb74be000)
   libXi.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXi.so.6 (0xb74b6000)
   libXrandr.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXrandr.so.2 (0xb74b2000)
   libXcursor.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXcursor.so.1 (0xb74a8000)
   libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/libXfixes.so.3 (0xb74a3000)
   libXft.so.2 => /usr/lib/libXft.so.2 (0xb7491000)
   libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0xb7463000)
   libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb73f7000)
   libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0xb73d8000)
   libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0xb73b3000)
   libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0xb73a1000)
   libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXext.so.6 (0xb7393000)
   libSM.so.6 => /usr/lib/libSM.so.6 (0xb738a000)
   libICE.so.6 => /usr/lib/libICE.so.6 (0xb7373000)
   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/libpthread.so.0 (0xb736)
   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0xb7357000)
   libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/libX11.so.6 (0xb726c000)
   libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXau.so.6 (0xb7269000)
   libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/libXdmcp.so.6 (0xb7264000)
   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0xb726)
   libstdc++.so.6 =>
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libstdc++.so.6 (0xb7181000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/libm.so.6 (0xb715b000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 =>
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcc_s.so.1 (0xb7151000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/libc.so.6 (0xb7035000)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f1e000)

Its nice to hear somone else with the issue [if you see what I mean],
if I take the -C ,delete old bits and emerge amarok approach where
should I be looking for scraps? [not to disagree by the way but how
does this acheive something different from just emerging amarok?]

stu


On 17/11/06, Ilya Hegai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

unmerge amarok
then remove all traces left like *.la files
reemerge amarok

2006/11/17, Stuart Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hey folks
>
> I have found today that I cannot use the xine engine with amarok
> anymore, I have recently updated kde and gcc [stable] while may/may
> not be related however because I rarely reboot it could have been a
> while since the offending package was merged.
> The error message I recieve when trying to load the xine engine is
> "/usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so no such file or dir"
>
> However after some searching I have found this :
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ locate libamarok
> /usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.so
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_smb-device.la
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_smb-device.so
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
> /usr/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so
>
> The point seems to be that amarok is looking in the wrong place or the
> files and been merged and gone to the wrong place or a link is
> required or ...
>
> I usually find that problems link this are down to me in some way, so
> if someone could suggesta  course of action I would appreciate it.
> I have tried re-emerging xine-lib and amarok but no change so far,
> though I am going around in circles now.
>
> cheers
> stu
>
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> binary, those who don't"
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[gentoo-user] man openssl

2006-11-17 Thread Jorge Almeida

I just noticed that I don't have a man page for openssl.
How can this be?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dorin
On Friday 17 November 2006 23:21, Dale wrote:
> OK.  I found that but maybe this is not what I am looking for.  Let's
> say I chat with someone and later on I want to go read it again.  I
> would like it to save a copy of the chat automatically without me having
> to do it manually.  Yahoo does this.  Is this what I am looking for or
> is it called something else?
>
> Thanks for the help.  Just trying to get this to do what Yahoo does so I
> can remove Yahoo.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)  :-)

I haven't used Yahoo Messenger and don't know how it logs conversations. But 
with kopete, once you enable the history plug-in, you can select a contact 
from the list, then select from the menu Edit | View History and browse 
through a list of past conversations. 
You can do pretty much the same thing by using the (browser like) navigation 
buttons in a chat window. You might want to customize your toolbar if you 
don't see these buttons.

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Re: [gentoo-user] man openssl

2006-11-17 Thread Flophouse Joe

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Jorge Almeida wrote:


I just noticed that I don't have a man page for openssl.
How can this be?


I looked at the output of "equery files --filter=man openssl" and
noticed that while the openssl package on my system contained *some*
manpages, it certainly didn't contain a manpage for openssl(1).  Since I
didn't have any doc-like USE flags specified for the openssl package, I
took a look at the contents of the openssl tarball.

It looks like some of documentation is in perl's plain-old-documentation 
format under doc/apps/ .  If you extract the tarball, you can view what 
looks like an openssl(1) manpage with


perldoc /path/to/tarball/doc/apps/openssl.pod

This documentation certainly seems like it ought to installed along with 
the openssl manpages.  Does anyone know if it's been excluded 
purposefully?  (If not, Jorge, it might be a good idea to submit a bug 
about it.)


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Re: [gentoo-user] man openssl

2006-11-17 Thread Jorge Almeida

On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Flophouse Joe wrote:


On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, Jorge Almeida wrote:


 I just noticed that I don't have a man page for openssl.
 How can this be?


I looked at the output of "equery files --filter=man openssl" and
noticed that while the openssl package on my system contained *some*
manpages, it certainly didn't contain a manpage for openssl(1).  Since I
didn't have any doc-like USE flags specified for the openssl package, I
took a look at the contents of the openssl tarball.

It looks like some of documentation is in perl's plain-old-documentation 
format under doc/apps/ .  If you extract the tarball, you can view what looks 
like an openssl(1) manpage with


perldoc /path/to/tarball/doc/apps/openssl.pod

This documentation certainly seems like it ought to installed along with the 
openssl manpages.  Does anyone know if it's been excluded purposefully?  (If 
not, Jorge, it might be a good idea to submit a bug about it.)



I have access to a FC system, and, sure enough, there is a man page for
openssl. I hope it was a mistake.
Thanks, at least I'm relieved that it's not a problem with my system
(and I guess I must take a better look at equery).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Gian Domeni Calgeer wrote:
> Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 22:09 schrieb Gian Domeni Calgeer:
>   
>> Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 21:38 schrieb Stuart Howard:
>> 
>>> I have found today that I cannot use the xine engine with amarok
>>> anymore, I have recently updated kde and gcc [stable] while may/may
>>> not be related however because I rarely reboot it could have been a
>>> while since the offending package was merged.
>>> The error message I recieve when trying to load the xine engine is
>>> "/usr/kde/3.5/lib/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.so no such file or dir"
>>>   
>> Hi
>>
>> Since I upgraded KDE, I also have this problem, so it is likely that it is
>> related to the KDE 3.5.5 upgrade.
>>
>> Gian
>> 
>
> BTW: I also re-emerged amarok and run revdep-rebuild, but without success.
>
> Gian
>   

Just to ask the obvious, you did check to make sure the USE didn't
change right?  Mine works and has this USE info:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv amarok
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] media-sound/amarok-1.4.4  USE="arts kde opengl
> postgres -aac -debug -ifp -ipod -mtp -mysql -njb -noamazon -real
> -visualization -xinerama (-xmms%)" LINGUAS="-af -ar -az -bg -br -ca
> -cs -cy -da -de -el -en_GB -es -et -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it
> -ja -ka -km -ko -lt -ms -nb -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -rw -sk
> -sl -sq -sr [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tg -th -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
>
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #   

Maybe that will help.  I use KDE 3.5.5 as well and no problems here. 
There has to be something different between us.  I'll help all I can to
find out what that difference is, provided someone will give me commands
to use.  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] ymessenger is going??

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Dorin wrote:
> On Friday 17 November 2006 23:21, Dale wrote:
>   
>> OK.  I found that but maybe this is not what I am looking for.  Let's
>> say I chat with someone and later on I want to go read it again.  I
>> would like it to save a copy of the chat automatically without me having
>> to do it manually.  Yahoo does this.  Is this what I am looking for or
>> is it called something else?
>>
>> Thanks for the help.  Just trying to get this to do what Yahoo does so I
>> can remove Yahoo.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)  :-)
>> 
>
> I haven't used Yahoo Messenger and don't know how it logs conversations. But 
> with kopete, once you enable the history plug-in, you can select a contact 
> from the list, then select from the menu Edit | View History and browse 
> through a list of past conversations. 
> You can do pretty much the same thing by using the (browser like) navigation 
> buttons in a chat window. You might want to customize your toolbar if you 
> don't see these buttons.
>
>   

Thanks much.  I see it now.  I need new glasses and more sense too. 
LOL  Thanks much for the help.  I'm getting used to Kopete.  There is a
lot that I like about it over Yahoo to be really honest.  May end up
being glad that Yahoo is going away.  o_O

Thanks for the help.

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Resize /

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Alexander Skwar wrote:
> < snip >
> The advantage of EVMS over LVM in this case would be, that he
> wouldn't have to reformat/repartition and would still be able
> to resize the partition/filesystem, wouldn't he?
>  < snip >
> Yes, with reiserfs, this can be done. But also with every other
> "normal" filesystem besides ext2.
>
> Alexander Skwar
>   

Somewhat on topic here.  How hard is it to do this with no previous
knowledge of how it works?  I am constantly running into the same thing
the OP is and having to move things around.  Currently I have two 80GB
drives.  Here is my partition scheme at the moment:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # mount
> /dev/hda6 on / type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda1 on /boot type reiserfs (rw,noatime,notail)
> /dev/hda7 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda8 on /usr type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda9 on /usr/portage type reiserfs (rw)
> /dev/hda10 on /data type reiserfs (rw)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # df
> Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda6  9765136   1896004   7869132  20% /
> /dev/hda1   146612 45880100732  32% /boot
> /dev/hda7  9765136   1236144   8528992  13% /home
> /dev/hda8  9765136   4269660   5495476  44% /usr
> /dev/hda9  5859272   3052004   2807268  53% /usr/portage
> /dev/hda1043762436  10667796  33094640  25% /data
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #

Just looking to get a better grasp on this since it sounds like
something I need to try.

Thanks

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Gian Domeni Calgeer
Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 22:35 schrieb Stuart Howard:
> Its nice to hear somone else with the issue [if you see what I mean],
> if I take the -C ,delete old bits and emerge amarok approach where
> should I be looking for scraps? [not to disagree by the way but how
> does this acheive something different from just emerging amarok?]
>
> stu
>
> On 17/11/06, Ilya Hegai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > unmerge amarok
> > then remove all traces left like *.la files
> > reemerge amarok

Hi

I did as Ilya Hegai suggested, i.e. I unmerged Amarok, did a 'find /usr -name 
*amarok*' and deleted all the .la files this returned, which were:

- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_gstengine_plugin.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/konqsidebar_universalamarok.la

After having reemerged Amarok, it works. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multi-user pop3 mail delivery

2006-11-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:42:43 +1300, Ralph Slooten wrote:

> > Are you running a local MTA? If so, this is set in the MTA's config;
> > for example in Postfix you would set "luser_relay=someuser".  
> 
> Yes, I can also specify this in the fetchmailrc, but it doesn't solve
> the problem that userA does not receive his mail if userB is not known.

So if a mail is sent to A and B and only A is a valid user, both copies
go to postmaster?

> All this does (I believe) is forward the unknown users to another
> machine. There is no other machine to forward to as all the users are on
> this current machine itself.

Not so, it forwards all mail for unknown users at one of your domains to
a specified user, so I have "luser_relay=neil" to get all such mail sent
to myself.

> The unknown users I am referring to are
> other users from different domains (not ours) included in the To and CC
> fields.

Ah, I see now. Having never used fetchmail in multi-drop mode (RTFMing
is a good way of making sure I don;t even attempt things like this) I
don;t know where you'd go next.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Lag de défilement : mise à jour de libpng ou erreur de config ?

2006-11-17 Thread Nico

oops, i'm very sorry for my mistake, i do post on gentoo-user-fr in french,
but I think I've clicked gentoo-user instead of gentoo-user-fr, sorry again.

So my problem is quite OT I think, but here is it :

Since I've updated libpng AND/OR I've unchecked then checked the "smooth
fonts" box in the KDE conf center, all the program which depend on KDE lags
when I scroll the pages : quanta, konsole, Kate...
Since there, the option was checked and in the advanced properties, the RGB
subpixel and hinting too. Now, I must unchecked the RGB subpixel for not
laging...

I've a Athlon XP Barton 3000+ and a 6600GT with the stable nvidia-drivers.

The other problem is when I click on Konsole or write it in an aterm as a
user, it always opens a superuser-Konsole...

My poor experience says to me :
- a prelink problem ? (I've not yet prelinked KDE 3.5.5 as the 3.5.2 was)
- should I reset the configuration of KDE by deleting files where it's
stored (but I don't know where) ?
- xorg problem, bad configuration ? (It was working since then)

Could do push me to the right direction to correct this ?

many thx

nico.


[gentoo-user] etc-proposals - an alternative to etc-update and dispatch-conf

2006-11-17 Thread Björn Michaelsen
Hello list,

Id like to present you etc-proposals and am interested in your opinion.

For gentoo-users, who like the commandline, etc-proposals is a gentoo 
configuration file updater, that, unlike etc-update and dispatch-conf, provides 
a shell with tabcompletion and allows updating of selected fileparts.
Features:

* lean dependancies (only portage and readline, no
  diff, no rcs, nothing else)
* shell-like UI with tabcompletion and history
* can be used just like dispatch-conf, so you dont
  need to learn anything new (however, you might
  actually like the additional features)
* the ability to accept certain changes to a file,
  while dismissing others
* dynamical recalculation of changes (i.e. if on
  update proposes to change a line and is accepted,
  the user wont be asked again, if a second update
  proposes the same)
* the ability to accept/dismiss all changes to a
  file/dir
* the ability to review decisions before they are
  merged
* showing changes in a change/proposal/file/dir/all
* the ability to undo decisions, if they are not yet
  merged into the filesystem
* undo a change/proposal/file/dir
* goto , completely with tabcompletion
* merging of changes to the configuration files is not
  done on a file-by-file basis, but can be triggered
  at any time. This allows the user to review his
  changes.
* provides the ability to edit a proposed changes,
  opening the editor of choice at the changed lines
  (this is currently supported in nano, emacs and vi)
* keeps decisions on proposed changes, even if the tool 
  is stopped
* online help from the shell
* clean packaging using distutils - an ebuild is
  provided too

Homepage: http://michaelsen.kicks-ass.net/Members/bjoern/etcproposals/
Forums:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3699434.html#3699434

Hoping for some good feedback,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Amarok xine engine error

2006-11-17 Thread Stuart Howard

I have followed the same procedure as suggested by Ilya Hegai and my
result was the same as Gian.
It works fine now, many thanks for the help.

stu

On 17/11/06, Gian Domeni Calgeer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Am Freitag, 17. November 2006 22:35 schrieb Stuart Howard:
> Its nice to hear somone else with the issue [if you see what I mean],
> if I take the -C ,delete old bits and emerge amarok approach where
> should I be looking for scraps? [not to disagree by the way but how
> does this acheive something different from just emerging amarok?]
>
> stu
>
> On 17/11/06, Ilya Hegai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > unmerge amarok
> > then remove all traces left like *.la files
> > reemerge amarok

Hi

I did as Ilya Hegai suggested, i.e. I unmerged Amarok, did a 'find /usr -name
*amarok*' and deleted all the .la files this returned, which were:

- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_void-engine_plugin.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_gstengine_plugin.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/libamarok_xine-engine.la
- /usr/kde/3.5/lib64/kde3/konqsidebar_universalamarok.la

After having reemerged Amarok, it works.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I emerge something until the next 'esync'?!

2006-11-17 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Friday 17 November 2006 00:27, "Daevid Vincent" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote about '[gentoo-user] How come my 'esearch' isn't updated when I 
emerge something until the next 'esync'?!':
> How come when I emerge something, my 'esearch' isn't updated until the
> next time I do an 'esync'?
>
> But I *DO* have it installed
>
> Why can't portage just be smart enough  to update whatever
> record/file/log/whatever it is that shows what I have installed?!

esearch is separate from portage, portage DOES update it's records (that's 
why emerge, part of portage, shows it as installed).  esearch uses a 
separate database (for speed) that is updated by either by esync (which 
also does an emerge --sync) or eudatedb.

(Sorry if this has already been mentioned; I'm not receiving all the emails 
from the list.)

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[gentoo-user] emerge -C says it is not emerged, but it is. Now what?

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Hi folks,

I do a --depclean -p every once in a while.  I did one tonight and it
said musicbrains was not used by anything but k3b.  I checked my USE
line and made sure it was not in there to be used and re-emerged k3b to
make sure it was not compiled with it somehow. 

When I did a emerge -C musicbrainz it said it wasn't found.  Something
like this:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -C musicbrains
>
> --- Couldn't find 'musicbrains' to unmerge.
>
> >>> No packages selected for removal by unmerge.

Well, I did a locate for anything containing music and found some left
over stuff from musicbrainz.  Example but not all of it.

> /usr/lib/pkgconfig/libmusicbrainz.pc
> /usr/lib/libmusicbrainz.la
> /usr/lib/libmusicbrainz.so
> /usr/lib/libmusicbrainz.so.4.0.2
> /usr/lib/libmusicbrainz.so.4
> /usr/lib/libmusicbrainz.a

and

> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4
> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4/mb_howto.txt.gz
> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4/README.gz
> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4/TODO.gz
> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4/AUTHORS.gz
> /usr/share/doc/musicbrainz-2.1.4/ChangeLog.gz

So, it was there at some point I guess.  Here is my k3b info now, after
the re-emerge:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -pv k3b
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] app-cdr/k3b-0.12.17  USE="alsa arts dvdr encode hal
> kde mp3 vorbis -css -debug -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz
> -sndfile -vcd -xinerama" LINGUAS="-af -bg -bn -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da
> -de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fi -fr -ga -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja -km -lt
> -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ro -ru -se -sl -sr
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] -sv -ta -tr -uk -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB
>
> Total size of downloads: 0 kB
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


Question is, since it does not have record of what to remove, how do I
get rid of it without breaking something?  I want to do this in a
"clean" way if possible.  Can I emerge it as a oneshot then unmerge it
or will the mtimes mess up something?  I read mtimes is how portage can
tell if something has been messed with or not since it was merged. 
Teach me something if I am wrong here. 

Thanks in advance for the help.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -C says it is not emerged, but it is. Now what?

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Dale wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> I do a --depclean -p every once in a while.  I did one tonight and it
> said musicbrains was not used by anything but k3b.  I checked my USE
> line and made sure it was not in there to be used and re-emerged k3b to
> make sure it was not compiled with it somehow. 
>
> When I did a emerge -C musicbrainz it said it wasn't found.  Something
> like this:
> < snip >
> Question is, since it does not have record of what to remove, how do I
> get rid of it without breaking something?  I want to do this in a
> "clean" way if possible.  Can I emerge it as a oneshot then unmerge it
> or will the mtimes mess up something?  I read mtimes is how portage can
> tell if something has been messed with or not since it was merged. 
> Teach me something if I am wrong here. 
>
> Thanks in advance for the help.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-)
>   

Never mind.  I typed in musicbrainS instead of musicbrainZ.  I think I
mentioned once before that I needed better glasses, more sense to if I
recall correctly.  LOL

Sorry for the noise.  I'll check my spelling next time.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -C says it is not emerged, but it is. Now what?

2006-11-17 Thread Henk Boom

On 18/11/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


When I did a emerge -C musicbrainz it said it wasn't found.  Something
like this:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -C musicbrains
>
> --- Couldn't find 'musicbrains' to unmerge.


Try unmerging musicbrainz, not musicbrains. =)

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -C says it is not emerged, but it is. Now what?

2006-11-17 Thread Dale
Henk Boom wrote:
> On 18/11/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> When I did a emerge -C musicbrainz it said it wasn't found.  Something
>> like this:
>>
>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # emerge -C musicbrains
>> >
>> > --- Couldn't find 'musicbrains' to unmerge.
>
> Try unmerging musicbrainz, not musicbrains. =)
>
> Hope this helps,
>Henk Boom

Yea, I noticed it later.  I need to get someone to shine a light in my
ear and see if anything is in there.  LOL

Silly me.

Dale

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