Re: [gentoo-dev]
* On Mon May-09-2005 at 03:34:36 PM +0200, Henrik Brix Andersen said: > On Mon, 2005-05-09 at 16:21 +0300, Alin Nastac wrote: [...] > > Mobile phones are far from PDAs. I don't see anything you can't do with > > a PDA (since it _is_ a computer). > > Compared to them, _normal_ mobile phones are very limited devices. > > My last two mobile phones (Motorola A920 and Motorola E1000) are > symbian-based hand-helds, and they act like a PDA - but I still can't do > the same stuff with my PDA as I can with a PC. I have a symbian phone as well (Nokia 3595, at least I'm pretty sure Nokia's run symbian) but it does not act like a PDA. Luckily I also have a PDA (i-Mate PDA2K, aka O2 XDA IIs, MDA III, and so on...) which acts as a phone. Needless to say these devices are far from similar. > I suggested app-pda because of the metadata.xml description: > > The app-pda category contains software for working with personal > digital assistants or hand-held computers. > > As I've said, I think most modern mobile phones can be considered being > a PDA/hand-held computer. The latest and greatest phones can almost be considered PDAs, I agree. But they are not the norm yet. I mean, my phone can run Java applications and has GPRS but that's about as far as it goes. My PDA, well it has everything from BlueTooth and 802.11b to GPRS, GSM (850, 900, 1800, 1900) as well as an internal 128M flash memory and a 512M SD card in the expansion slot. It even has a slide-out keyboard. This thing is more powerful than most PCs 10 years ago. They are converging, but PDAs are advancing at an astonishing rate since they're geared towards power users and geeks. Phones aren't moving as fast since for the average person they just want a phone that makes and receives calls. Does the average person use Gentoo? Probably not, but I still think they are very different beasts for now and should be kept separate. I am aware that mobile phones outside of North America are much more advanced (in general) so perhaps this is the cause of this little disagreement. I don't have a really strong opinion either way, but I thought I'd throw in my user's perspective. -- Sami Samhuri pgp3IdELxV03b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
* On Sun May-15-2005 at 04:48:04 PM -0600, Ryan said: [...] > something, then its your fault for not having a backup. Of coarse this > is just ONE way to backup. There are a bazillion ways to do it. The > choice is up to you. Besides, if you are running the unstable branch And if Gentoo provides yet another choice for one to use in recovery then that sounds good to me. :) -- Sami Samhuri pgpuMMGhtbdVw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] i have an idea ! (erescue)
* On Sun May-15-2005 at 05:18:06 PM -0400, Mike Frysinger said: [...] > my proposal is to implement a new utility (called 'erescue' for lack of a > better name) that is written in C and designed to be statically linked ... > then next time you break a core system package which cannot be recovered by > simply running `emerge` a few times, you run `erescue ` Everyone who is saying that Portage can already sort of handle this seems to be missing one important point. If Python is broken then emerge won't work. The proposed erescue would still work in that case. -- Sami Samhuri pgp9whrZPAC0Z.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-dev] where goes Gentoo?
* On Sun Jun-12-2005 at 01:33:02 PM -0700, Zac Medico said: > Athul Acharya wrote: [...] > > I mean lets face it, a distro that's largely DIY is hardly a good > > first Linux, but an excellent second Linux and indeed thats the very > > reason why I use Gentoo. Let Redhat/Fedora/Mandrake do the initial > > user grab, that's what they're good at. > > OTOH, most computer users are unable to or uninterested in > installing/configuring an OS. All they need is someone to setup > Gentoo for them and they can basically use it like they would an MS > Windows "appliance". [Sorry, I've gone OT with this...] I have a friend who is clueless when it comes to computers. I've set up Gentoo for him -- after Mandrake, of all distros, was a pain to get working with his pc -- and he's just stoked that he doesn't have to worry about websites ruining his PC with ads and spyware. I have to maintain it, but Gentoo makes that a breeze since I can log in from home and update as necessary. Gentoo draws a line between user and admin, while most OSs try to get rid of this line. I think it's an important line to have for now. There may not be as much danger in using a computer as driving a vehicle, but it's still a machine which requires knowledge to safely operate well. Most users simply aren't willing to learn what they should know since they only see the computer as a means to an end. I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I sympathize with users who suffer through needless OS problems just because they are in the habit of clicking OK to the 100 message boxes they see pop up daily. Even if that message box is really just a web page with a graphical link that runs some ActiveX code... I got sidetracked; my main point was that Gentoo is a great OS for even the most careless user, as long as there is an admin to keep the system running safely and smoothly. Many thanks to the Gentoo devs, who have made this solid distro a pleasure to run for everyone from server admins to PDA users. (Note: I don't have Gentoo running on my PDA yet... but as soon as I can boot the kernel that'll be my next goal) -- Sami Samhuri pgp1AtSJxqiBZ.pgp Description: PGP signature
