Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
Samuli Suominen  writes:

> Does gpe-base/* and gpe-utils/* relate to this at all?

Somehow. Just as Plasma Activity, it could be used as a GUI but not
necessarily.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
"Andreas K. Huettel"  writes:

> while I won't have the time to contribute much, I would like to tell you that 
> this is definitely a very cool and worthwhile project! I think you should 
> make 
> a project page and sign yourself up as team lead immediately... :)

Thank you, Andreas. I've started a subproject here,

  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/android/index.xml

> Chris Reffett from KDE team has done already a lot of work on packaging 
> Plasma 
> Active, see http://plasma-active.org/ - it's in the KDE overlay but mostly 
> untested so far. You might be interested!

Talked to him on IRC. Thanks for the info.

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[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php/symfony

2013-08-17 Thread Ole Markus With
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Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
Alexey Mishustin  writes:

> My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this
> kind of Gentoo. Will be important the version of Android installed?

No, it would be agnostic to Android versions.

CPU of Galaxy S2 belongs to armv7a hardfloat, which is our main release
target.

Just a minute, I'll release a stage3 tarball.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
"Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina"  writes:

> You know what I've done with this kind of thing already.  I am at your
> disposal.  If you want to publicly embarass canonical by releasing
> something awesome (either first or better) I can find the time to help.
>  You know where to find me ;-)

That's great, Rick!

Come and add yourself here,

 http://www.g.o/proj/en/gentoo-alt/android/index.xml

The page calls for extra love to be expanded.

See you in the usual place!
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Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
Arun Raghavan  writes:

> There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it
> works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if
> there's enough public to do your own build.

I am very interested in such an image. Would you please dig out a link
for me? I searched the web in vain.

>> As a natual consequence of the on-going Google Summer of Code project,
>> Gentoo on Android[3], we can run native Gentoo on *all* the Android
>> devices. Compiling out an Xorg and output to HDMI has no theoretical
>> difficulty. Furthermore, sharing of graphic output with Android (instead
>> of a separate HDMI output) can be explored with wayland x11[4].
>
> There are a lot of _hard_ problems here (display, audio, input,
> codecs), not to even begin on proper policy integration (your phone is
> hooked up, voice call starts, what do you do).

Yes, you're right.

> That's not to discourage your effort at all - I think it's great that
> you're kicking this off and that there is so much enthusiasm for this.
> I look forward to seeing the solutions that emerge to solve all of
> these, and am happy to offer to test on a device or two.

I'd make it incremental, by releasing only a full Gentoo environment
(Gentoo RAP) as the first step. Then base on that, gather forces to
attack the hard(-ware) problems you mentioned.

Cheers,
Benda



Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php/symfony

2013-08-17 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-08-17, o godz. 12:50:40
Ole Markus With  napisał(a):

> This package was masked a while ago, but the last rites-mail did not
> make it out. Resetting 30 days removal notice.
> 
> # Ole Markus With  (10 Aug 2013)
 ^^^

Shouldn't you use your g.o address here?

-- 
Best regards,
Michał Górny


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Re: [gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-php/symfony

2013-08-17 Thread Ole Markus With
On 17/08/13 13:03, Michał Górny wrote:
> Dnia 2013-08-17, o godz. 12:50:40 Ole Markus With
>  napisał(a):
> 
>> This package was masked a while ago, but the last rites-mail did
>> not make it out. Resetting 30 days removal notice.
>> 
>> # Ole Markus With  (10 Aug 2013)
> ^^^
> 
> Shouldn't you use your g.o address here?
> 

I should. Should be corrected now.

-- 
Ole Markus



Re: [gentoo-dev] gtk2/gtk3 use flags

2013-08-17 Thread Samuli Suominen

On 16/08/13 20:12, Michael Weber wrote:

Hello,

gtk is a global use flag [1], gtk2 and gtk3 are used in metadata.xml [2].

Is there a consensus how to use these flags if an app provides gtk2
and gtk3 gui in parallel or exclusive?


'gtk' uses best possible version as defined by the package maintainer

'gtk3' is a special flag that is used when package supports both gtk and 
gtk3 at the same time, and matches the criteria of sanity which is a) 
it's an library that is used by multiple programs b) is not easy to

split, which would otherwise be preferred over using the USE flag

'gtk2' is never required, those matching it down from the list have weak 
design which goes against every other ebuild in tree, but is still 
package maintainers decision


special flags like 'IUSE="+deprecated"' can be used if there is a need 
to enable the old GTK+ implementation by default, but still provide the 
new one, in programs.  like if enabling GTK+3 instead of GTK+2 would 
disable you from using flash plug-in in a browser, would qualify in.


imho :)

- Samuli



Michael

[1] /usr/portage/profiles/use.desc
gtk - Add support for x11-libs/gtk+ (The GIMP Toolkit)


[2] egrep "gtk(2|3)" /usr/portage/profiles/use.local.desc
app-admin/gtkdiskfree:gtk3 - Use GTK+3 instead of 2
app-editors/emacs:gtk3 - Link against version 3 of the GIMP Toolkit
instead of version 2 (x11-libs/gtk+)
app-editors/emacs-vcs:gtk3 - Link against version 3 of the GIMP
Toolkit instead of version 2 (x11-libs/gtk+)
app-i18n/fcitx:gtk3 - Install GTK3 IM module
app-i18n/fcitx-configtool:gtk3 - Use GTK+3 instead of 2
app-i18n/ibus:gtk3 - Enable support for gtk+3
app-i18n/ibus-anthy:deprecated - Install deprecated pygtk2 library
app-i18n/ibus-unikey:gtk3 - Enable support for gtk+3
app-i18n/imsettings:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3
app-i18n/scim:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3
app-i18n/uim:gtk3 - Enable support for x11-libs/gtk+:3
app-office/libreoffice:gtk3 - Enable highly experimental gtk3 frontend
dev-java/icedtea-web:gtk2 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:2 instead of x11-libs/gtk+:3
dev-java/icedtea-web:gtk3 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:3 (default)
dev-python/matplotlib:gtk3 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of
x11-libs/gtk+:2
lxde-base/lxdm:gtk3 - Use GTK+3 instead of 2
mail-client/claws-mail:gtk3 - Build support for GTK+3
media-libs/libcanberra:gtk3 - Enables building of gtk+3 helper
library, gtk+3 runtime sound effects and the canberra-gtk-play
utility. To enable the gtk+3 sound effects add canberra-gtk-module to
the colon separated list of modules in the GTK_MODULES environment
variable.
media-plugins/audacious-plugins:gtk3 - Link against version 3 of the
GIMP Toolkit instead of version 2 (x11-libs/gtk+)
media-sound/audacious:gtk3 - Link against version 3 of the GIMP
Toolkit instead of version 2 (x11-libs/gtk+)
media-sound/jalv:gtk2 - Adds support for GTK+2 in addition to GTK+3
controlled by the gtk useflag.
media-sound/mp3splt-gtk:gtk3 - Link against x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of
x11-libs/gtk+:2
net-analyzer/wireshark:gtk2 - Build the wireshark executable with a
GTK+ UI version 2.
net-analyzer/wireshark:gtk3 - Build the wireshark executable with a
GTK+ UI version 3.
net-dns/avahi:gtk3 - Build the avahi-ui-gtk3 library, and use gtk3 for
the avahi utilities under USE=utils
net-libs/gtk-vnc:gtk3 - Build the gtk3 gtk-vnc library and other gtk3
assets
net-misc/spice-gtk:gtk3 - Link against x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of
x11-libs/gtk+:2
net-p2p/eiskaltdcpp:gtk3 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of x11-libs/gtk+:2
www-client/dwb:gtk3 - Link against x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of
x11-libs/gtk+:2
www-client/uget:gtk3 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of x11-libs/gtk+:2
www-client/uzbl:gtk3 - Use x11-libs/gtk+:3 instead of x11-libs/gtk+:2
x11-themes/light-themes:gtk3 - Support GTK 3.x, too
x11-wm/fvwm:gtk2-perl - Enable GTK2 Perl bindings






Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread Arun Raghavan
On 17 August 2013 16:28, heroxbd  wrote:
> Arun Raghavan  writes:
>
>> There are images available for this, btw, if you want to see how it
>> works and poke around. I'd seen some repositories, but don't know if
>> there's enough public to do your own build.
>
> I am very interested in such an image. Would you please dig out a link
> for me? I searched the web in vain.

None of these worked for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install

I believe there were efforts to port to arbitrary non-Nexus devices as well.

Cheers,
-- 
Arun Raghavan
http://arunraghavan.net/
(Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)



Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-user] OpenRc-0.12 is coming soon

2013-08-17 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Dale  wrote:

> Doug Goldstein wrote:
> >
> > sys-apps/etckeeper is what you want. Works great. It even has portage
> > integration. Though I'd recommend going with the ~arch version instead
> > of stable for that portion.
> >
> > --
> > Doug Goldstein
>
> I think this is something dispatch-conf does too.  I use that but still
> make a backup myself, just in case.  Generally, a successful reboot is a
> good sign that the configs are working.
>
> Going to look into this but the home page doesn't really show me much, yet.
>
>
>
You'll want USE=cron enabled so that you get the benefits of etckeeper
taking a note of someone or something changing a config and not committing
it. Additionally without USE=cron, when you emerge the next package
etckeeper will think that the most recent package you emerged changed a
file that it didn't if you manually changed a file.

Once that's done just do:
# etckeeper init -d /etc
# bzcat /usr/share/doc/etckeeper-1.7/examples/bashrc.bz2 >>
/etc/portage/bashrc

And you're set.

-- 
Doug Goldstein


Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread Alexey Mishustin
2013/8/17 heroxbd :
> Alexey Mishustin  writes:
>
>> My rooted Samsung Galaxy S2 is also ready to receive and to test this
>> kind of Gentoo. Will be important the version of Android installed?
>
> No, it would be agnostic to Android versions.
>
> CPU of Galaxy S2 belongs to armv7a hardfloat, which is our main release
> target.

Perfect.

> Just a minute, I'll release a stage3 tarball.

OK! =)

-- 
Regards,
Alex



Re: [gentoo-dev] desktop experience on smartphone: thoughts and plans against Ubuntu edge

2013-08-17 Thread heroxbd
Dear Arun,

Arun Raghavan  writes:

> None of these worked for you? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
>
> I believe there were efforts to port to arbitrary non-Nexus devices as
> well.

Ah, get to understand what you have meant. I was not talking about
replacing mobile devices with a GNU/Linux, not even dual booting. It was
running GNU in parallel to Android, sharing the same Linux kernel and
hardware, cooperating with each other.

Cheers,
Benda