[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item

2011-04-15 Thread Peter Hjalmarsson
tor 2011-04-14 klockan 08:09 + skrev Duncan:
> 1) While baselayout-1 had a parallel boot option, it was quite broken and 
> (partly or entirely, not sure which) non-functional.  The same thing in 
> baselayout-2/openrc works WELL and I use it all the time.  (Given the 
> emphasis placed on this in the media, the various boot-timing contests, 
> etc, and the fact that this feature puts Gentoo in-play again in regard to 
> speed-boots, it's a pretty big positive in favor of upgrading.)
> 

This feature is still not really perfect, at least not perfect enought.
Use squid on a system where it takes longer for its daemon to exist
(like my router, where the media is a intel SSD, 4GB memory and a AMD
Athlon 2x on the AM3 socket) and you will see lots of outputs from
openrc about all those scripts waiting for it to end...

So maybe when that feature is ready to be enabled by default?

Regards
Peter Hjalmarsson







[gentoo-dev] Re: openrc portage news item

2011-04-15 Thread Duncan
Peter Hjalmarsson posted on Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:04:09 +0200 as excerpted:

> [parallel boot] feature is still not really perfect, at least not
> perfect enought. Use squid on a system where it takes longer for its
> daemon to exist (like my router, where the media is a intel SSD,
> 4GB memory and a AMD Athlon 2x on the AM3 socket) and you will see
> lots of outputs from openrc about all those scripts waiting for it
> to end...

If you're talking about the 50...40... etc wait if something takes longer 
than 10 seconds (I get it here on startup with ntp-client), I'd argue 
that's demonstration of the feature's maturity.

What can start/stop does.  Other things wait, with a (configurable) 
timeout until their dependency comes up (or goes down, at shutdown).  If 
the wait is more than 10 seconds, the system tells you what is going on.

That's as designed and IMO a good thing.  What's broken about it?

> So maybe when that feature is ready to be enabled by default?

I believe it's ready for everyone to give a try.  If it doesn't work or 
they prefer the more ordered output of a serial boot, despite the longer 
wait time, fine, but it'll work for most, with possible tweaking of the  
the timeout, the services that don't timeout at all (fscks, by default), 
or fine dependency ordering, if necessary.

To have the system take far longer to POST than from end of POST to 
waiting for me to login (despite the idle-wait for ntp-client), is very 
nice indeed. =:^)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: euscan proof of concept (like debian's uscan)

2011-04-15 Thread Corentin Chary
New website is up and running at

http://euscan.iksaif.net/

The git tree is still at http://git.iksaif.net/?p=euscan.git;a=summary

TODO:
- Make some charts to see how it's going
- Finish the "scan my world" feature
- Add a way to subsribe to herds/maintainer/packages in order to
receive weekly/monthly reports

I'll gladly accept any patch ! :)

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