Re: [gentoo-dev] Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Robin H. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Sorry that it's taken this long to get completed, but the Jeeves
> replacement, Willikins, is finally 99% done, and ready to join lots of
> channels.
>
> Getting the bot out there
> -
> If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
> each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
> channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles.

#gentoo-dev-help: I can be the contact.

>
> Bug reports
> ---
> Please open a bug in the Gentoo Infrastructure product, using the
> 'Other' component, and assign it directly to me.
>
> Custom bot functionality:
> -
> Here's all the functionality that we have assembled, beyond the standard
> rbot stuff.
> Bugzilla
> 
> !bug [ZILLA] ID
> Looks up bug #ID in the per-channel default or specified bugzilla.
>
> !bugstats [ZILLA]
> Totals of bugs per the bugzilla 'status' field.
>
> !archstats [ZILLA] [STATUS] [RESO]
> Totals of bugs per architecture, optionally with some specific set of
> status or resolution values, comma delimited.
>
> status = OPEN, DONE, UNCONFIRMED,NEW,ASSIGNED,REOPENED, RESOLVED, VERIFIED, 
> CLOSED
> Reso = FIXED, INVALID, WONTFIX, LATER, REMIND, DUPLICATE, WORKSFORME,
>   CANTFIX, NEEDINFO, TEST-REQUEST, UPSTREAM
> zilla = gentoo xine sourcemage redhat mozilla kernel fdo abisource
>apache kde gnome
> If you want another bugzilla, file a bug.
>
> Gentoo-specific
> ===
> !meta [-v] [CAT/]PACKAGE
> Print the metadata and optionally herd members for a given package.
>
> !changelog [CAT/]PACKAGE
> Changelog stats for a package
>
> !devaway list
> List all away developers.
>
> !devaway DEVNAME
> Display .away message for a single developer.
>
> !herd HERD
> Show herd members
>
> !expn NAME
> Show the expansion of any public Gentoo mail alias
>
> !glsa GLSAID
> Shows the title and external IDS for any given GLSA ID.
>
> !earch [CAT/]PACKAGE
> Earch output for a given package
>
> !rdep [CAT/]PACKAGE
> Reverse RDEPEND for a given package
>
> !ddep
> Reverse DEPEND for a given package
>
> What isn't supported yet
> 
> 1. !glsa -s TEXT
> This used to search for GLSAs that matched that string in their title or
> external IDS.
>
> 2. New bug announcements
> Jeeves used to announce brand new bugs to #gentoo-bugs as well as
> targeted channels or users, depending on the product, component,
> assignee, cc and a number of other factors (deeply nested if/else
> trees). The old implementation had this in code entirely, and it would
> be nice to avoid having to modify the code whatsoever, and instead have
> some domain-specific language for doing this.
>
> Source availability
> ---
> Gentoo specific:
> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/rbot-gentoo.git
> Bugzilla support:
> http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=proj/rbot-bugzilla.git
> (flameeyes has his own tree as well, but he's been sick lately, so it
> was lagging behind my development)
>
> Right now, if you want to run your own instance of the bot, you will
> need the latest Git tree of the rBot itself, as upstream only fixed the
> last remaining issue a couple of hours ago.
>
> Thanks to
> -
> solar:
> Running the old Jeeves Eggdrop till now, and helping to document all of
> the Eggdrop functionality we used.
>
> flameeyes:
> Bugzilla plugin development
>
> halcy0n:
> Gentoo-specific stuff
>
> tango_, jsn-:
> (rbot upstream developers) For fixing the bugs as I found them :-).
>
> --
> Robin Hugh Johnson
> Gentoo Linux Developer & Infra Guy
> E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>



Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default_* functions

2008-08-10 Thread Petteri Räty

Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:

Hi,

Currently we have default_* functions implemented in
portage(paludis has these too)
which allow the default implementation of a particular phase
to be called. Another handy function in the default_* series is
function 'default' which simply calls the default function for
whatever phase you're in. The 'default' function patch is probably
before you read this, and a release(2.2_rc7) will soon follow.

Zac has said this release will have support for these functions in
EAPI 2_pre2. Discuss!


So if you inherit an eclass that exports a function will default call 
the one from the eclass or the default in the PM?


Regards,
Petteri



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[gentoo-dev] Re: Jeeves IRC replacement now alive - Willikins

2008-08-10 Thread Markus Ullmann

Robin H. Johnson schrieb:

Hi folks,

Getting the bot out there
-
If you would like to have the new bot in your #gentoo-* channel, would
each channel founder/leader please respond to this thread, stating the
channel name, and that they are the contact for any problems/troubles.


Please add to #gentoo-sunrise as well, thanks.
I'll be contact for it.

Greetz
-Jokey



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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] default_* functions

2008-08-10 Thread Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2008-08-10 17:07:16 Petteri Räty napisał(a):
> Thomas Anderson kirjoitti:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Currently we have default_* functions implemented in
> > portage(paludis has these too)
> > which allow the default implementation of a particular phase
> > to be called. Another handy function in the default_* series is
> > function 'default' which simply calls the default function for
> > whatever phase you're in. The 'default' function patch is probably
> > before you read this, and a release(2.2_rc7) will soon follow.
> > 
> > Zac has said this release will have support for these functions in
> > EAPI 2_pre2. Discuss!
> 
> So if you inherit an eclass that exports a function will default call 
> the one from the eclass or the default in the PM?

default() calls functions from the package manager.

-- 
Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis


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[gentoo-dev] Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
bo.andresen at zlin.dk.

-- 
Bo Andresen
Former Gentoo KDE Dev


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[gentoo-dev] Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Ingmar Vanhassel

Hello list,

As usual with this kind of mails, this has been long overdue, but it's
about time that I retire from Gentoo.
For a while Gentoo hasn't been going into a direction I like, and to me
it doesn't look like that's about to change any time soon. Despite attempts
to convince me of the contrary, I'm not sure I see the technical
advancements that I'd like happening, in Gentoo. That aside there're
numerous non-technical problems behind the scenes, that most devs
probably acknowledge by now...
There're other projects in the Free-Software world that I currently
enjoy putting my time into more, I'm sure it's more than obvious to those
of you who know me which...

So long,
Ingmar Vanhassel, ex-Gentoo KDE developer.




Re: [gentoo-dev] Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
> several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
> Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
> bo.andresen at zlin.dk.

Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you 
were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.

-- 
Thanks,
Donnie

Donnie Berkholz
Developer, Gentoo Linux
Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com


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[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Donnie Berkholz wrote:

On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active for 
several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the 
direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most 
current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current direction. 
Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached at 
bo.andresen at zlin.dk.


Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you 
were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.


They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the 
direction they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression 
that there's some kind of evil Cabal.





Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
> they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression that there's some
> kind of evil Cabal.

Most of the Gentoo developer population is made of young males with a
natural tendency to overreaction and suboptimal communication skills
(and I'm not implying it's the case of the original poster). So, if I
were you, I wouldn't bother too much to read in between the lines of
these retirement messages.

Denis.



[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2008-08-10 23h59 UTC

2008-08-10 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed
from the tree, for the week ending 2008-08-10 23h59 UTC.

Removals:
www-apps/knowledgetree  2008-08-09 21:22:58 hoffie
dev-php4/ZendOptimizer  2008-08-09 21:53:34 robbat2
dev-php4/adodb-ext  2008-08-09 21:53:34 robbat2
dev-php4/creole 2008-08-09 21:53:35 robbat2
dev-php4/eaccelerator   2008-08-09 21:53:36 robbat2
dev-php4/ffmpeg-php 2008-08-09 21:53:36 robbat2
dev-php4/jargon 2008-08-09 21:53:37 robbat2
dev-php4/jpgraph2008-08-09 21:53:38 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-apc   2008-08-09 21:53:38 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-crack 2008-08-09 21:53:39 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-fileinfo  2008-08-09 21:53:41 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-http  2008-08-09 21:53:41 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-id3   2008-08-09 21:53:42 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-imagick   2008-08-09 21:53:43 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-json  2008-08-09 21:53:43 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-mailparse 2008-08-09 21:53:44 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-memcache  2008-08-09 21:53:45 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-pdflib2008-08-09 21:53:46 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-ps2008-08-09 21:53:47 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-radius2008-08-09 21:53:47 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-sqlite2008-08-09 21:53:48 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-tidy  2008-08-09 21:53:49 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-translit  2008-08-09 21:53:49 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-yaz   2008-08-09 21:53:50 robbat2
dev-php4/pecl-zip   2008-08-09 21:53:51 robbat2
dev-php4/php-java-bridge2008-08-09 21:53:51 robbat2
dev-php4/phpdbg 2008-08-09 21:53:52 robbat2
dev-php4/phpunit2008-08-09 21:53:53 robbat2
dev-php4/suhosin2008-08-09 21:53:54 robbat2
dev-php4/syck-php-bindings  2008-08-09 21:53:54 robbat2
dev-php4/xcache 2008-08-09 21:53:55 robbat2
dev-php4/xdebug 2008-08-09 21:53:55 robbat2

Additions:
sci-chemistry/arp-warp-bin  2008-08-04 00:11:54 
dberkholz
games-action/wordwarvi  2008-08-04 03:28:15 
mr_bones_
sys-apps/ack2008-08-04 20:01:07 rajiv
media-libs/libass   2008-08-05 18:56:03 aballier
media-sound/a2jmidid2008-08-06 21:19:08 aballier
www-apps/horde-dimp 2008-08-07 18:24:34 wrobel
app-doc/casting-spels-emacs 2008-08-08 12:14:30 ulm
dev-libs/luafilesystem  2008-08-08 22:40:03 matsuu
dev-util/luadoc 2008-08-08 23:04:37 matsuu
app-emacs/bongo 2008-08-08 23:20:10 ulm
app-emulation/virtualbox-guest-additions2008-08-10 14:49:33 jokey

--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux Developer
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GnuPG FP   : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED  F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
Removed Packages:
www-apps/knowledgetree,removed,hoffie,2008-08-09 21:22:58
dev-php4/ZendOptimizer,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:34
dev-php4/adodb-ext,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:34
dev-php4/creole,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:35
dev-php4/eaccelerator,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:36
dev-php4/ffmpeg-php,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:36
dev-php4/jargon,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:37
dev-php4/jpgraph,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:38
dev-php4/pecl-apc,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:38
dev-php4/pecl-crack,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:39
dev-php4/pecl-fileinfo,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:41
dev-php4/pecl-http,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:41
dev-php4/pecl-id3,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:42
dev-php4/pecl-imagick,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:43
dev-php4/pecl-json,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:43
dev-php4/pecl-mailparse,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:44
dev-php4/pecl-memcache,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:45
dev-php4/pecl-pdflib,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:46
dev-php4/pecl-ps,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:47
dev-php4/pecl-radius,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:47
dev-php4/pecl-sqlite,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:48
dev-php4/pecl-tidy,removed,robbat2,2008-08-09 21:53:49
dev-php4/pecl-translit,re

[gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Duncan
"Denis Dupeyron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted
[EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted
below, on  Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:40:58 +0200:

> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the
>> direction they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression
>> that there's some kind of evil Cabal.
> 
> Most of the Gentoo developer population is made of young males with a
> natural tendency to overreaction and suboptimal communication skills
> (and I'm not implying it's the case of the original poster). So, if I
> were you, I wouldn't bother too much to read in between the lines of
> these retirement messages.

That, and by the time it comes to retirement, one has generally been thru 
the arguments several times already, the people that need to know why in 
general already do, and there's a feeling it's not worth rehearsing old 
positions and bringing up old arguments the one last time.  The time for 
that has already passed by the time someone's announcing their 
retirement, the decision has been made, it's all water under the bridge 
now (as the saying goes) and it's time to move on, with a clean break, no 
longer blaming anyone or etc as that's what one does /before/ it gets to 
this point.

So, indeed, I'm a KDE user here, and it's time to wish them well...

Thanks guys for all the hard work, the product of which I'm running 
(still KDE 3.5.9, here) as I type this.  Be well, and hope to see you 
around the community!  There's plenty of projects out there that can use 
your help! =8^)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Retirement

2008-08-10 Thread Alec Warner
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Nikos Chantziaras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Donnie Berkholz wrote:
>>
>> On 00:26 Mon 11 Aug , Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>>>
>>> My retirement is probably long overdue as I haven't really been active
>>> for several months. It is now clear to me that Gentoo is not moving in the
>>> direction I had wished for and the last council election indicates that most
>>> current Gentoo developers appear to be satisfied with this current
>>> direction. Therefore farewell. If anybody wants to reach me I can be reached
>>> at bo.andresen at zlin.dk.
>>
>> Adios guys, and thanks for all the work you've put into Gentoo while you
>> were here! Best of luck on your future endeavors.
>
> They always say that stuff but never bother explaining what the direction
> they wish for actually is.  As a user I get the impression that there's some
> kind of evil Cabal.

Despite our best efforts Gentoo is not a fun-loving community where
everyone gets along.
If you want to call the fact that the majority of developers want to
go in direction 'X' a cabal; then so be it.

Many folks are happy at the current pace of development.  I imagine
these two folks were frustrated at the lack
of new features in the ebuild spec that were readily available in
kdebuild-1 and decided to move on.  More power to them I say.

-Alec