[gentoo-dev] Re: last thoughts for xml/xml2 unification

2006-02-08 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted
below,  on Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:07:15 -0500:

> any last issues people wish to cover before we start finishing this up ?

FWIW, I've already filed a bug, and had it marked invalid, due to this,
because it was using xml for xml2, despite the fact that use.desc still
insists that xml is for the v1 library only.  At this point (well, the
point as of yesterday when I last synced, anyway),
app-text/ghostscript-esp-8.15.1 doesn't agree with use.desc.  Having a
"(merging with xml2)" note in there while it was done would have avoided
an unnecessary/invalid bug spam.

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[gentoo-dev] New forums staffer: mark_alec (Mark Kowarsky)

2006-02-08 Thread kloeri
Hi all.

Mark_alec just joined the team as our newest global forums moderator.
I'm sure he's already well known on our busy forums :)

He writes about himself: "I am a 16 year high school student who is
interested in computers, physics, chemistry and maths.  I also am part
of a very successful school debating team.  I live in Melbourne,
Victoria, Australia and often go on bushwalks throughout the state."

Welcome to the team Mark.

Regards,
Bryan Østergaard

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New forums staffer: mark_alec (Mark Kowarsky)

2006-02-08 Thread Curtis Napier

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Hi all.

Mark_alec just joined the team as our newest global forums moderator.
I'm sure he's already well known on our busy forums :)



Welcome newest Forum Victim^^Staffer!
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[gentoo-dev] New developer: deltacow (Scott Stoddard)

2006-02-08 Thread kloeri
Hi all.

I've got another new victim to present :) Scott is joining the amd64
team that he's already been a part of for the last few months helping
out as an AT (arch tester).

Scott has experience with C/C++, Java, Python, SQL and is a long time
Gentoo user.

Scott writes: "I've been heavily involved with computers since the age
of 7 when my father brought home a TI-99/4A which held my interest for a
couple of years until I got a Commodore 128.  The story progresses from
there fairly much as I suspect it does for most in the Linux community.
Suffice it to say that I'm not usually far from multiple systems."

In "Real Life" Scott enjoys reading, photographing and playing poker.
Gentoo is Scotts first open source project.

Welcome to the team Scott.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: deltacow (Scott Stoddard)

2006-02-08 Thread Simon Stelling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've got another new victim to present :) Scott is joining the amd64
> team that he's already been a part of for the last few months helping
> out as an AT (arch tester).

Welcome to the team, again ;)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: deltacow (Scott Stoddard)

2006-02-08 Thread Luis Medinas
On Wed, 2006-02-08 at 21:52 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I've got another new victim to present :) Scott is joining the amd64
> team that he's already been a part of for the last few months helping
> out as an AT (arch tester).
> 
> Welcome to the team Scott.

Welcome to our team and congrats.

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[gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Anyone that is maintaining a binary package in the tree, and requires
libstdc++-v3, please put a rdepend in your package on
=virtual/libstdc++-3.3.  I'd like to drop the dependency from gcc-3.4 and
higher so that we do not needlessly force the libstdc++ package on people
that do not need it.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 09 February 2006 08:19, Mark Loeser wrote:
> Anyone that is maintaining a binary package in the tree, and requires
> libstdc++-v3, please put a rdepend in your package on
> =virtual/libstdc++-3.3.  I'd like to drop the dependency from gcc-3.4 and
> higher so that we do not needlessly force the libstdc++ package on people
> that do not need it.

It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade.
Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until
being recompiled after the upgrade and there is currently no way to
express this with dependencies.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade.
> Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until
> being recompiled after the upgrade and there is currently no way to
> express this with dependencies.

You need either gcc-3.3 or libstdc++-v3.  I don't see forcing either upon our
users to be a good thing.  The upgrade doc covers how to do the 3.3->3.4
upgrade, and I think most archs are on 3.4 at this point.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 09 February 2006 09:30, Mark Loeser wrote:
> Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade.
> > Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until
> > being recompiled after the upgrade and there is currently no way to
> > express this with dependencies.
> 
> You need either gcc-3.3 or libstdc++-v3.  I don't see forcing either upon our
> users to be a good thing.  The upgrade doc covers how to do the 3.3->3.4
> upgrade, and I think most archs are on 3.4 at this point.

Ok. If the there's an upgrade doc and 3.4 postinst points to it, no problem.
I take it the dependencies you're asking about is for binary-only (or other?)
packages that specifically depend on 3.3 then?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mark Loeser
Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thursday 09 February 2006 09:30, Mark Loeser wrote:
> > Jason Stubbs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > > It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade.
> > > Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until
> > > being recompiled after the upgrade and there is currently no way to
> > > express this with dependencies.
> > 
> > You need either gcc-3.3 or libstdc++-v3.  I don't see forcing either upon 
> > our
> > users to be a good thing.  The upgrade doc covers how to do the 3.3->3.4
> > upgrade, and I think most archs are on 3.4 at this point.
> 
> Ok. If the there's an upgrade doc and 3.4 postinst points to it, no problem.
> I take it the dependencies you're asking about is for binary-only (or other?)
> packages that specifically depend on 3.3 then?

Nothing should explicitly depend on gcc-3.3 to compile.  If that is the
case, let me know and I'll try and patch the package.  I am specifically
asking for binary only packages that require libstdc++-v3 to depend on the
virtual/libstdc++-3.3.

The doc is in the gcc-3.4 postinst:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml

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Re: [gentoo-dev] New developer: deltacow (Scott Stoddard)

2006-02-08 Thread Scott Stoddard

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all.

I've got another new victim to present :) Scott is joining the amd64
team that he's already been a part of for the last few months helping
out as an AT (arch tester).

Scott has experience with C/C++, Java, Python, SQL and is a long time
Gentoo user.

Scott writes: "I've been heavily involved with computers since the age
of 7 when my father brought home a TI-99/4A which held my interest for a
couple of years until I got a Commodore 128.  The story progresses from
there fairly much as I suspect it does for most in the Linux community.
Suffice it to say that I'm not usually far from multiple systems."

In "Real Life" Scott enjoys reading, photographing and playing poker.
Gentoo is Scotts first open source project.

Welcome to the team Scott.


Thanks kloeri, blubb, metalgod, and everyone else I've talked to in the 
past couple of days.  I'll do my best to keep up the standards.  (and by 
jebus ciaranm, I'll use repoman!)


Scott.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Binary packages

2006-02-08 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 19:24, Jason Stubbs wrote:
> On Thursday 09 February 2006 08:19, Mark Loeser wrote:
> > Anyone that is maintaining a binary package in the tree, and requires
> > libstdc++-v3, please put a rdepend in your package on
> > =virtual/libstdc++-3.3.  I'd like to drop the dependency from gcc-3.4 and
> > higher so that we do not needlessly force the libstdc++ package on people
> > that do not need it.
>
> It was my understanding that it is needed for the 3.3 -> 3.4 upgrade.
> Various packages that will build fine against either are broken until
> being recompiled after the upgrade and there is currently no way to
> express this with dependencies.

gcc-3.3 wont be removed automatically, so the system wont break until the user 
tells it so :)
-mike
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