Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Kevin F. Quinn (Gentoo)
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:51:46 -0800
"Robin H. Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a
> lot of ebuilds with stuff like this:
> for font in *.bdf; do
> /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > `basename $font .bdf`.pcf
> done   
> gzip *.pcf
>
> ['make' suggestion and example makefile snipped]

You could just do it directly in bash:

for font in *.bdf; do
pcf=`basename $font`.pcf && \
  /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > ${pcf} &&
  gzip ${pcf} &
done
wait

You may want to limit the number of parallel processes somewhat (as
with 'make -jN'), which is also easy enough to do:

n=${MAX_PARALLEL}
for font in *.bdf; do
pcf=`basename $font .bdf`.pcf && \
  /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > ${pcf} && \
  gzip ${pcf} &
[[ ${n} -eq 0 ]] && wait && n=${MAX_PARALLEL}
   ((n=${n}-1))
done
wait

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Philippe Trottier

Lisa Seelye wrote:

On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 00:18 +, Ferris McCormick wrote:


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On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:51 -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote:


I've been cleaning up media-fonts/ to work with modular-X, and I see a
lot of ebuilds with stuff like this:
   for font in *.bdf; do
   /usr/X11R6/bin/bdftopcf ${font} > `basename $font .bdf`.pcf
   done
   gzip *.pcf

For having 100 files in *bdf, this is so serial it's painful.


And here I was hoping Distcc would get some usage. :(



Distcc gets lots of usage with modular X.  But for the fonts? :)


Time for distfont? ;)


Make this distributed tool for tar zip bzip2 and gzip and I'm in, I don't think 
it would be useful with anything else than Gigabit Ethernet.


We might want to have in the make.conf 2 separate variables, one of them saying 
how many threads can be run on the machine, then How many threads/process across 
a cluster.


For example, my Dual Xeon EM64T file server can do make -j4  locally, like in 
make install, make docs etc etc, But for compiling I can use -j20, really not 
useful over -j8 anyway. But the point is, it would be usefully to separate the 
load distribution on the local machine and cluster nodes.


Philippe Trottier
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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-12 Thread Jan Kundrát
Greg KH wrote:
> And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free.

Do you want to have this kernel documented in our Kernel guide [1]?

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml#doc_chap3

Cheers,
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[gentoo-dev] Conversion from kernel-mod.eclass to linux-mod/linux-info

2006-01-12 Thread Henrik Brix Andersen
Hi,

As stated in bug #74396, all ebuilds using kernel-mod.eclass must be
converted to using either linux-mod.eclass and/or linux-info.eclass.

The bug has been open since 2004-12-14, yet there are still ebuilds in
the tree which inherits kernel-mod.eclass:

$ find . -name "*.ebuild"|xargs grep inherit|grep kernel-mod|cut -d '/' -f 
2,4|sed -e "s:\.ebuild.*::"
sci-misc/comedi-0.7.68
sci-misc/comedi-0.7.67
media-libs/svgalib-1.9.19-r3
sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.2_pre20041022
sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.3
sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.5
sys-cluster/pvfs2-1.2.0
sys-fs/cryptsetup-0.1
media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.3
media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1-r1
media-tv/rivatv-0.8.5-r2

Apart from sci-misc/comedi and sys-cluster/pvfs2, the ebuilds all have
newer versions which have already been ported. If you maintain any of
these ebuilds, please see to it that the older versions which use
kernel-mod.eclass are either removed from the tree or updated to use
the new eclasses.

Needless to say, the sci-misc/comedi and sys-cluster/pvfs2 needs to be
converted to use the new eclasses as well. The old kernel-mod.eclass
is not for use in new ebuilds.

Regards,
Brix
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[gentoo-dev] Jan/2006 council agenda

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Frysinger

for this month:
* GLEP 45 - GLEP date format
* disallow multiple votes per person (from ciaranm)
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11346783302&r=1&w=2
* global gentoo goals for 2006

for next month:
* periodically freezing the tree for new packages (from carlo)

i miss anything ?
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-12 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 14:08 -0700, Duncan wrote:
> Ferris McCormick posted
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below,  on
> Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:04:19 +:
> 
> > B.  "Jurisdiction" --- why this is something for devrel to consider (policy
> > violation or whatever).  This is a categorization of the report, not an
> > argument why it is valid.  (This could be handled by a predefined set of
> > reasons by an existing Bugzilla field similar to "Component," but
> > currently it is not.)
> 
> An enumeration or list of examples would be rather helpful, here.  Since
> you say it could be a predefined list, enumerating it in the RFC, or at
> least giving a couple examples, shouldn't be unreasonable.  Keep in mind
> that it's possible/likely the filer will have never filed something like
> this before, so the vague guideline as stated simply isn't all that much
> help.   You want it concrete, make it so.
> 

This is a reasonable request, but I don't have such a list right now.
Here are some annotated examples of the sorts of things devrel is
interested in, so you can use these as guides:

1.  Abusive behavior, IRC.  (Recurring abusive behavior)
2.  Abusive behavior, email.
3.  Abusive/inappropriate responses on normal bug reports.
4.  Abusive behavior, forums. (The forum moderators almost always handle
this sort of problem pretty quickly.)
5.  Other etiquette violation, IRC.  (Recurring violation of a #gentoo
IRC channel's etiquette policy, not covered by abusive behavior.  If you
wish to report such a violation, please keep language and cultural
differences in mind.)
6.  IRC policy violation (abuse of operator status in violation of
policy on particular channel).
7.  Disruptive behavior, IRC (Well, maybe.  An example might be a
running feud between two developers where the participants don't mind,
but the cumulative effect is to make the channel unusable for others.)
8.  QA dispute between developers.  (One developer (or user) believes
another has violated policy, and they cannot resolve their differences
by normal means (discussion, appeal to project lead, etc.))
9.  QA violation, reported by QA.  (QA believes developer has seriously
violated policy but cannot resolve the issue with the developer
directly.)

This list is not necessarily complete, nor is everything on the list
necessarily appropriate for reporting to devrel.  But it should give
some idea of the sorts of things that are helpful for briefly explaining
why devrel has jurisdiction and to give a clue how the reporter wants
the bug to be processed.
  
> Otherwise... unpleasant subject matter, but I'm glad someone's dealing
> with it.  The rest seems reasonable enough.
> 
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> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 11:23 +0200, Philippe Trottier wrote:
> Make this distributed tool for tar zip bzip2 and gzip and I'm in, I don't 
> think 
> it would be useful with anything else than Gigabit Ethernet.

app-arch/pbzip2

It covers only bzip2, but proves that it can be done.  I tend to like it
for catalyst, since it helps a lot on SMP machines.

> We might want to have in the make.conf 2 separate variables, one of them 
> saying 
> how many threads can be run on the machine, then How many threads/process 
> across 
> a cluster.
> 
> For example, my Dual Xeon EM64T file server can do make -j4  locally, like in 
> make install, make docs etc etc, But for compiling I can use -j20, really not 
> useful over -j8 anyway. But the point is, it would be usefully to separate 
> the 
> load distribution on the local machine and cluster nodes.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: RFC --- Thoughts on devrel bug content

2006-01-12 Thread Duncan
Ferris McCormick posted
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, excerpted below,  on
Thu, 12 Jan 2006 13:59:43 +:

> This list is not necessarily complete, nor is everything on the list
> necessarily appropriate for reporting to devrel.  But it should give some
> idea of the sorts of things that are helpful for briefly explaining why
> devrel has jurisdiction and to give a clue how the reporter wants the bug
> to be processed.

Thanks.  That list at least provides a decent set of examples.  When I
read "jurisdiction", I thought the usual US/legal sense, as in courts
ruling whether they have jurisdiction over a case or not, and my mind was
boggling...  I couldn't quite figure out how to boil such a concept down
into the itemized list you were describing.  The examples definitely help
me get my mind around the concept you intended!

I'd suggest putting at least one or two examples in whatever bug template
or HOWTO might result from this, if the thing isn't made an itemized list
as you suggested, anyway.

I know I had a /terrible/ time figuring out Gentoo's bug system for
regular bugs, and can easily envision myself having the same issues trying
to fit square pegs into crescent-moon-shaped  holes here, so some
sort of guide is SURE to prove beneficial.

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[gentoo-dev] Re: Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Duncan
Chris Gianelloni posted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
excerpted below,  on Thu, 12 Jan 2006 09:11:27 -0500:

> app-arch/pbzip2
> 
> It covers only bzip2, but proves that it can be done.  I tend to like it
> for catalyst, since it helps a lot on SMP machines.

Very cool!  I didn't know that existed.  It could be quite useful here on
my dual Opteron.  Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Parallizing ebuilds - 'trivial' ebuilds

2006-01-12 Thread Simon Stelling

Duncan wrote:

app-arch/pbzip2

It covers only bzip2, but proves that it can be done.  I tend to like it
for catalyst, since it helps a lot on SMP machines.



Very cool!  I didn't know that existed.  It could be quite useful here on
my dual Opteron.  Thanks!


For those who wondered what might be the purpose of that mail, re-read the last 
sentence with stress on the last three words.


SCNR

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Re: [gentoo-dev] a plea for testing help

2006-01-12 Thread Greg KH
On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:41:41PM +0100, Jan Kundr?t wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> > And if someone wants to forward this over to -user, feel free.
> 
> Do you want to have this kernel documented in our Kernel guide [1]?
> 
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml#doc_chap3

That would be great to have added there.  In the "Unsupported kernels"
section please.

thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion from kernel-mod.eclass to linux-mod/linux-info

2006-01-12 Thread Doug Goldstein
Henrik Brix Andersen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As stated in bug #74396, all ebuilds using kernel-mod.eclass must be
> converted to using either linux-mod.eclass and/or linux-info.eclass.
> 
> The bug has been open since 2004-12-14, yet there are still ebuilds in
> the tree which inherits kernel-mod.eclass:
> 
> $ find . -name "*.ebuild"|xargs grep inherit|grep kernel-mod|cut -d '/' -f 
> 2,4|sed -e "s:\.ebuild.*::"
> sci-misc/comedi-0.7.68
> sci-misc/comedi-0.7.67
> media-libs/svgalib-1.9.19-r3
> sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.2_pre20041022
> sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.3
> sys-apps/realtime-lsm-0.8.5
> sys-cluster/pvfs2-1.2.0
> sys-fs/cryptsetup-0.1
> media-sound/alsa-driver-1.0.3
> media-tv/linuxtv-dvb-1.1.1-r1
> media-tv/rivatv-0.8.5-r2
> 
> Apart from sci-misc/comedi and sys-cluster/pvfs2, the ebuilds all have
> newer versions which have already been ported. If you maintain any of
> these ebuilds, please see to it that the older versions which use
> kernel-mod.eclass are either removed from the tree or updated to use
> the new eclasses.
> 
> Needless to say, the sci-misc/comedi and sys-cluster/pvfs2 needs to be
> converted to use the new eclasses as well. The old kernel-mod.eclass
> is not for use in new ebuilds.
> 
> Regards,
> Brix
AFAIK, cryptsetup should be pulled in favor of cryptsetup-luks. I think
everything uses luks now rather then cryptsetup.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion from kernel-mod.eclass to linux-mod/linux-info

2006-01-12 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 11:45 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> AFAIK, cryptsetup should be pulled in favor of cryptsetup-luks. I think
> everything uses luks now rather then cryptsetup.

We're still using cryptsetup on the InstallCD/LiveCD.  Should we switch?
What's the differences?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion from kernel-mod.eclass to linux-mod/linux-info

2006-01-12 Thread Benjamin Smee (strerror)
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lo,

On Thursday 12 January 2006 17:17, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> On Thu, 2006-01-12 at 11:45 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> > AFAIK, cryptsetup should be pulled in favor of cryptsetup-luks. I think
> > everything uses luks now rather then cryptsetup.
>
> We're still using cryptsetup on the InstallCD/LiveCD.  Should we switch?
> What's the differences?

Where possible you should be using cryptsetup-luks over cryptsetup. I'm still 
of two minds about pulling it completely, but at this point cryptsetup-luks 
has its full functionality, is actively maintained, a drop in replacement and 
has the blessing of the original cryptsetup author.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Conversion from kernel-mod.eclass to linux-mod/linux-info

2006-01-12 Thread Benjamin Smee (strerror)
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lo,

On Thursday 12 January 2006 16:45, Doug Goldstein wrote:
> AFAIK, cryptsetup should be pulled in favor of cryptsetup-luks. I think
> everything uses luks now rather then cryptsetup.

I know that the latest versions of gnome now are using cryptsetup-luks but I'm 
not 100% sure that all things are now pulling in cryptsetup-luks yet. Re the 
original post, I'll go and file a stabilize bug for the newer versions of 
cryptsetup I put in the tree a while back, they have fixed the kernel-mod 
usage and have been around for many months without bugs so I assume there is 
no problem with them.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for January

2006-01-12 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday 05 January 2006 13:42, Greg KH wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 05, 2006 at 07:56:30AM -0500, Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > You guys are more than welcome to go apply at Red Hat or Novell.
>
> Some of us already work for companies that produce other Linux
> distributions or support the companies that do. :)

i know i would if i could get hired ;)
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Re: [gentoo-dev] packages without homepages

2006-01-12 Thread Mark Loeser
Matthias Langer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> After reading the response for bug 118607, which i filed, i was
> woundering if there isn't a more appropriate default procedure for
> packages with no homepages then just leaving the invalid 'homepage-link'
> alone ... Shouldn't there be a way to tell portage that a certain
> package simply doesn't have a homepage ?

It'd be nice to get a decision on this.  repoman complains, but the dev manual
says that DESCRIPTION and HOMEPAGE are required (except in unique
circumstances).  I don't see why we can't just say they are always required.
Something should _always_ have a description, and if a package has no
HOMEPAGE, I think putting "none" in there is better than leaving it blank.

I'm trying to go around and clean up all of the stuff repoman is complaining
about, and there are quite a few of these, so I'd like to know how to handle
them.  We need to either make repoman not complain if HOMEPAGE="" is supposed
to be valid, or put "none" in there if necessary.

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[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Council Meeting Summary (20060112)

2006-01-12 Thread solar
Monthly Gentoo Council Meeting for Jan 2006.

Present:
  Koon (Thierry Carrez)
  Swift (Sven Vermeulen)
  agriffis (Aron Griffis)
  seemant (Seemant Kulleen)
  solar (Ned Ludd)
  vapier (Mike Frysinger)

Absent:
  azarah (Martin Schlemmer)
  Where abouts unknown for the last 30 days.

Attendance by non council members appeared to be rather low.

Agenda:
 * GLEP 45 - GLEP date format
 * Disallowing council members to act as proxies for other council
members.
* Global gentoo goals for 2006


Outcome:
* GLEP 45:
As stated on the mailing lists minor changes to GLEP's and the GLEP
process is best left in the hands of the GLEP editors. Everybody
supported g2boojum's ability to decide. Otherwise we would of voted yes.

* Disallowing council members to act as proxies for other council
members.
 Status = Approved.

* Global gentoo goals for 2006
This was mostly a brainstorming session covering such topics as should 
the council even be setting global goals, enterprise support, GRP, 
ebuild/profile/eclass and binpkg signing.



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-:- Topic (#gentoo-council): changed by vapier: Meeting at 1900 UTC (1400 EST) || anybody seen azarah in the last month?
06:54PM  where am I?
06:54PM  :p
06:55PM  batman
 anybody want to step up and chair this or open session today?
06:57PM  i would but like i said, i'm prob gonna have to pop out early
06:59PM  welp, by my clock, it's about that time eh
07:00PM  i'm pretty sure az isnt going to show up
-:- tove [EMAIL PROTECTED] has joined #gentoo-council
07:00PM  Koon / seemant / solar / seemant / vapier
07:00PM  who is awake ?
 check
07:01PM  mate
07:01PM  I am awake
07:02PM  i'll assume Koon will wake shortly
-:- kloeri_ [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/kloeri] has joined #gentoo-council
 * GLEP 45 - GLEP date format <-- ok this one. This is not even for us to decide on is it? The glep editors got that one covered right?
07:02PM  yes, g2boojum is for it
07:02PM * SwifT/#gentoo-council doesn't mind at all
07:02PM  and i'm pretty sure we'd all vote yes
-:- NetSplit: irc.freenode.net split from zelazny.freenode.net [07:02pm]
-:- BitchX: Press ^F to see who left ^E to change to [irc.freenode.net]
07:02PM  it's not for us to decide, I should think
07:02PM  stupid freenode
-:- [Users(#gentoo-council:10)] 
[ kloeri_   ] [ tove  ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]   ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]] [ kallamej  ] 
[vg2boojum  ] [ FuzzyRay  ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] [ spb   ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
-:- Topic (#gentoo-council): Meeting at 1900 UTC (1400 EST) || anybody seen azarah in the last month?
-:- Topic (#gentoo-council): set by vapier at Thu Jan 12 18:54:06 2006
07:02PM  regarding chairing, sorry, just saw the e-mail. Perhaps next meeting
 who did we lose on that split?
07:03PM  I support g2boojum's ability to decide that :)
07:03PM  Koon
-:- Koon [EMAIL PROTECTED]/developer/Koon] has joined #gentoo-council
-:- mode/#gentoo-council [+o Koon] by ChanServ
07:03PM  here he is
 ok next item is.
 * disallow multiple votes per person (from ciaranm)
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=11346783302&r=1&w=2
07:04PM  WFM
07:04PM  wfm?
07:04PM  the reasoning in that email is sound
07:04PM  yes too
07:04PM  so yes, wfm2
07:04PM  isn't it Windows Meta Format or something?
07:04PM  SwifT: works for me
07:04PM  emerge wtf && wtf wfm
07:04PM  oh, that
07:04PM  yes, wfmaw
07:04PM  pfft that isnt real
07:05PM  you're just making s**t up
07:05PM  brb phone
07:05PM  have we all voted for that?
07:05PM  (or a majority anyway)
07:05PM  solar hasnt
 I dont see the point personally and what brought it up was I'm guessing me trying to cover for az last month. 
 but if the majority want to put into effect thats ok.
 so yes
07:06PM  you're so accommodating
07:06PM !alindeman:*! Hi all .. Regional server looks to be having some trouble; we're working to resolve it now
 next item is
 * global gentoo goals for 2006
07:06PM  whee
07:06PM  that thread went to garbage fast eh
 that we talked about a short bit in mail and said that global goals is not something that the council should decide. 
 anybody have any input towards that subject?
07:08PM  i dont think that's it
07:08PM  so my followup question is: who's role is that to play?
 explain please
07:09PM !lilo:*! Problem with a temporary main rotation server; however, we'd removed it from the main rotation as soon as we could manage, and about 800 users were affected
07:09PM  we cant just defer it, if we do we're saying "what Gentoo is now is good enough"
07:10PM  no, but some people would like to see us 7 give the global direction where Gentoo is heading at
07:10PM  which, frankly, will probably upset at least 7 other people :p
07:10PM  however, if the council could work on keeping track of Gentoo's shortcomings and possible interesting areas, we can give a boost to new proposals
07:10PM  well, not really "council" job, but someone has to :)
07:11PM  that seems feasible
07:11PM  previously, the gentoo managers did that a bit
07:11PM  honestly, that