Bluessky calls for a new mentor!!!
Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China (e.g., countryside of Western China). BlueSky is already deployed to 12 + 5 primary/high schools with positive reviews.BlueSky was originally created by Qinghua Zheng and Jun Liu in September 2005. The BlueSky development is being done at XJTU-IBM Open Technology and Application Joint Develop Center, more than 20 developers are involved. And it entered incubation on 2008-01-12. BlueSky is consisted with two subsystems -- RealClass system and MersMp system, both of which contains a set of flexible, extensible applications such as "Distance Collaboration System", "Collaboration player", "Collaboration recording tool", "Resources Sharing and Management Platform " and Access of mobile terminal, designed by engineers and educators with years of experience in the problem domain, as well as a framework that makes it possible to create new applications that exist with others. Currently,Bluesky project has evolved into the 4th version system with more flexible applications and stabilities. We had developed the core applications of bluesky system with QT to support both Windows and Linux. What's more important, the new version system has the feature of integrated applications, which means that user can record a video during the interactive process and then play it in VOD method.The third advancement is that the 4th version sysytem supports Android platform and we can further advance Blursky in the mobile domain. We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. We hope to encourage contributions and use of Bluesky by other developing countries with similar education needs. Currently, the new version of BlueSky system is already handy to release.We really need to add an enthusiastic and responsive mentor to help us to complete full cycle of successful release.So we hope that with the help of developers all around the world, the system could become more powerful and functional in education area. We appreciate your attentions to Bluesky project. Best regards.
Bluesky calls for a new mentor!
Hi,all, Now, Bluesky project calls for a new mentor to guide us to complete the release work of 4th version. BlueSky is an e-learning solution designed to help solve the disparity in availability of qualified education between well-developed cities and poorer regions of China (e.g., countryside of Western China). BlueSky is already deployed to 12 + 5 primary/high schools with positive reviews.BlueSky was originally created by Qinghua Zheng and Jun Liu in September 2005. The BlueSky development is being done at XJTU-IBM Open Technology and Application Joint Develop Center, more than 20 developers are involved. And it entered incubation on 2008-01-12. BlueSky is consisted with two subsystems -- RealClass system and MersMp system, both of which contains a set of flexible, extensible applications such as "Distance Collaboration System", "Collaboration player", "Collaboration recording tool", "Resources Sharing and Management Platform " and Access of mobile terminal, designed by engineers and educators with years of experience in the problem domain, as well as a framework that makes it possible to create new applications that exist with others. Currently,Bluesky project has evolved into the 4th version system with more flexible applications and stabilities. We had developed the core applications of bluesky system with QT to support both Windows and Linux. What's more important, the new version system has the feature of integrated applications, which means that user can record a video during the interactive process and then play it in VOD method.The third advancement is that the 4th version sysytem supports Android platform and we can further advance Blursky in the mobile domain. We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. We hope to encourage contributions and use of Bluesky by other developing countries with similar education needs. Currently, the new version of BlueSky system is already handy to release.We really need to add an enthusiastic and responsive mentor to help us to complete full cycle of successful release.So we hope that with the help of developers all around the world, the system could become more powerful and functional in education area. We appreciate your attentions to Bluesky project. Best regards.
Re: Bluesky calls for a new mentor!
We really appreciate both of your suggestions on Bluesky's development in ASF. We think that we are supposed to finish code release work of the 4th version in the end of July.Due to the effective work we really need a experienced mentor to guide our release. In addition, there are about 8-9 developers to do the release work, some of whom are green hands to release code in ASF owing to change of team members.We consider that it is important if there is a disscussion about how to fast acquire this guide instructions. By the way, we have been developing the bluesky project. After the release work of 4th version. We would like to discuss the deployment of the 5th version including IPTV function and so on. We appreciate collaboraters in ASF to give us some suggestions about mobile terminal and IPTV. 2011/6/30 Noel J. Bergman > Joe Schaefer wrote: > > Chen Liu wrote: > > > We propose to move future development of BlueSky to the Apache Software > > > Foundation in order to build a broader user and developer community. > > > You are supposed to be doing your development work in the ASF subversion > > repository, using ASF mailing lists, as peers. > > Chen, as Joe points out, these are what BlueSky should have been doing for > the past three (3) years, and yet we still here a proposal for the future. > > > Looking at the (limited) commit history, there is a total imbalance > between > > the number of people associated with the development work (20+) and the > > number of people with Apache accounts here (2). > > Again, as Joe points out, ALL of BlueSky development should been done via > the ASF infrastructure, not periodically synchronized. We are a > development > community, not a remote archive. > > > What we really need you to discuss are *plans*, how you will implement > them, > > who will implement them, and how you will collaborate in the codebase as > peers. > > Joe, again, has this on the money. The BlueSky project must immediately > make significant strides to rectify these issues. Now, not later. > > We should see: > > 1) All current code in the ASF repository. > 2) All development via ASF accounts (get the rest of the people signed > up). > 3) Ddevelopment discussion on the mailing list. > 4) All licensing issues cleaned up. > >--- Noel > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling
We're preparing for the 4th version release. We need the whole July to do this work,thanks for your patience. 2011/7/2 Upayavira > I would support a one month wait. No more. They've had a long time. One > month is long enough to show seriousness. With no movement in that time, > a swift vote can close the project down. > > Upayavira > > On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 09:36 -0400, "Noel J. Bergman" > wrote: > > Bill Stoddard wrote: > > > > > I would like to see this vote suspended until we can get some feedback > > > from Jack Cai re whether he is willing to be a mentor. > > > > I concur that we should suspend this vote pending the outcome of the > > project's attempt to reboot. > > > > --- Noel > > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: [VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling
We've already known our failure in ASF. We would not find any excuses for this bed situation. But we just hope one more month to release the 4th version work. We've been advancing Bluesky project and now the 4th version is an integtared system including something about commercial. We're aware of how to advance our development via ASF . Just give us one more month to finish the rest of work. If our work is not very well, pl vote us to retire. 2011/7/2 Craig L Russell > +1 for retiring Bluesky > > I believe that the Bluesky project is well-intentioned but just doesn't > belong at Apache. > > The coders do not use mail lists for discussions of design, code, > infrastructure, or other aspects of project management that Apache projects > must do. "If it didn't happen on the mail lists, it didn't happen." This > would tell me that nothing is happening, yet code appears out of thin air. > > The coders are not committers. There is no path for coders to become > committers. Coders appear this year and disappear the next. > > Despite multiple attempts to teach Bluesky members what it means to be an > Apache project, no progress has been made. > > I think we should wish them well in their new home, wherever that happens > to be. > > Craig > > > On Jul 1, 2011, at 4:14 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > > +1 (Binding) >> >> On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Ross Gardler >> wrote: >> >>> +1 to retire Bluesky (binding) >>> >>> I see no reason for suspending the vote. We've been round this >>> particular merry-go-round many times already. Each time we're told >>> "we'll do better". The votes been called lets just move on, the ASF is >>> not the right home for this project for the reasons already discussed. >>> >>> Ross >>> >>> On 28 June 2011 06:49, berndf wrote: >>> Hi everyone, this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was every made. There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!) without much success. So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky. The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC. [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being [] -0/+0, I'm undecided [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try Thanks for voting, Bernd --**--** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**org >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ross Gardler (@rgardler) >>> Programme Leader (Open Development) >>> OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >>> >>> --**--** >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >>> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >>> >>> >>> >> --**--**- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: >> general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: >> general-help@incubator.apache.**org >> >> > Craig L Russell > Secretary, Apache Software Foundation > Chair, OpenJPA PMC > c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo > > > > > > > > > > > > --**--**- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > general-unsubscribe@incubator.**apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: > general-help@incubator.apache.**org > >
Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling
hi, all, If bluesky project was rejected by ASF? would we continue to use SVN to upload our codes? 2011/7/6 Bernd Fondermann > Hi everyone, > > The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds with only +1 votes from > Martijn, Emmanuel, Bernd, Niklas, Tommaso, Bertrand, Chris, Ralph, > Christian, Noel, Luciano, Alan, Upayavira, Ross, Benson, Craig, Greg, > William (binding) > and Andreas Kuckartz, Kalle Korhonen, Henry Saputra (non-binding). > Please review the tally and correct it if neccessary. > > Thanks for voting. > > I sincerly hope that Bluesky will nevertheless become open source > somewhere in the OSS universe. > > > Bernd > > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 07:49, berndf wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > this is a vote to retire the Bluesky podling. > > > > 3.5 years into incubation, the podling has not made progress in terms of > > becoming an Apache project. Dev is still done behind closed doors, and > > developers are changing frequently without notifications on the public > > lists. Mentors are M.I.A. Reports are often late. No Apache release was > > every made. > > > > There were multiple attempts to reboot the podling (Thanks Luciano!) > > without much success. > > > > So now I'm calling a vote to end Incubation for Bluesky. > > The vote is open at least until 2011-07-02 12:00 UTC. > > > > [] +1, retire Bluesky for the time being > > [] -0/+0, I'm undecided > > [] -1, I will step up as a mentor, so let's give it another try > > > > Thanks for voting, > > > > Bernd > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Bluesky cleanup? (was: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling)
We are preparing for realese work right now. some mentors in ASF support our project and are willing to give us one more month to do this work. I think 2011/7/19 Bertrand Delacretaz > (dropping bluesky-dev) > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Bernd Fondermann > wrote: > > ...The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds... > > Is anyone taking care of cleaning up BlueSky, deleting code from svn > (I assume that's needed), closing mailing lists etc? > > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
Re: Bluesky cleanup? (was: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling)
Has Bluesky project been retired by ASF? Can we continue to release work? 2011/7/19 Chen Liu > We are preparing for realese work right now. > some mentors in ASF support our project and are willing to give us one > more month to do this work. > I think > > > 2011/7/19 Bertrand Delacretaz > >> (dropping bluesky-dev) >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Bernd Fondermann >> wrote: >> > ...The vote to retire Bluesky succeeds... >> >> Is anyone taking care of cleaning up BlueSky, deleting code from svn >> (I assume that's needed), closing mailing lists etc? >> >> -Bertrand >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org >> >> >
Re: Bluesky cleanup? (was: [RESULT][VOTE] Retire Bluesky Podling)
We need time to backup Bluesky. Please dont delete us without any warnings. Thanks! 2011/7/21 Noel J. Bergman > > Er, have you explicitly told the Bluesky lists that the repo is about to > > be deleted? > > > Alternatively, we can simply turn off write access [to] ensure it's not > > actively developed, but that it's available. > > Are we deleting or moving to an attic-type section? > >--- Noel > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > >
