Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

> There's a bit of discussion that can happen (and sometimes does) on
> the issue trackers which provide a bit more interactive yet
> asynchronous method of communication. The Slack activity is almost
> comparable to general chit chat at ApacheCon hackathons or similar.

That may be so but I’m seeing stuff like this. Email on upcoming release [1] 
points to GitHub [2] points to Slack [3]

In order to view [3] you need to create an account and log into slack. Now I 
don’t think this is a graduation issue, but the PMC might want to consider how 
they bring information back from slack rather than link to it. I assume at some 
point the information behind that link would be lost (free tier right?).

I’ll note the slack page also says "If you have an @us.ibm.com, @uk.ibm.com, 
@adobe.com, @de.ibm.com, @il.ibm.com, or @apache.org email address, you can 
create an account.” what if you don’t have one of those accounts? While a 
committer will have an apache account, a contributor is not likely to have any 
of those. (They could find this [4] and sign up). Seems like a barrier to entry 
I think.

Thanks,
Justin

1. 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ddf47c05e72426a47f0a414e1dd68cc6075fa4a60be1753318ebfe58@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E
2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release/issues/241
3. https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1560540116034700
4. http://openwhisk.incubator.apache.org/slack.html



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Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-16 Thread Rodric Rabbah
The link to slack contains the content I wrote in the issue. We digest the 
slack conversations every night and email them to the dev list so that I could 
have used a ponymail permalink instead.

Anyone can self signup for slack there are no approvals or prohibitions on who 
can sign up. We should remove that text it’s misleading but may be coming from 
slack itself. Will check it out. 

Here’s an example ponymail digest 
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6dc90a0226d48c43ef3ebeaab30c0e925a5c14605caf51c27dc1e04c@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E

-r

> On Jun 16, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> There's a bit of discussion that can happen (and sometimes does) on
>> the issue trackers which provide a bit more interactive yet
>> asynchronous method of communication. The Slack activity is almost
>> comparable to general chit chat at ApacheCon hackathons or similar.
> 
> That may be so but I’m seeing stuff like this. Email on upcoming release [1] 
> points to GitHub [2] points to Slack [3]
> 
> In order to view [3] you need to create an account and log into slack. Now I 
> don’t think this is a graduation issue, but the PMC might want to consider 
> how they bring information back from slack rather than link to it. I assume 
> at some point the information behind that link would be lost (free tier 
> right?).
> 
> I’ll note the slack page also says "If you have an @us.ibm.com, @uk.ibm.com, 
> @adobe.com, @de.ibm.com, @il.ibm.com, or @apache.org email address, you can 
> create an account.” what if you don’t have one of those accounts? While a 
> committer will have an apache account, a contributor is not likely to have 
> any of those. (They could find this [4] and sign up). Seems like a barrier to 
> entry I think.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ddf47c05e72426a47f0a414e1dd68cc6075fa4a60be1753318ebfe58@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E
> 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release/issues/241
> 3. https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1560540116034700
> 4. http://openwhisk.incubator.apache.org/slack.html
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-16 Thread Rodric Rabbah
This is the link to signup to slack for this project 
http://openwhisk.apache.org/slack.html

-r

> On Jun 16, 2019, at 6:38 PM, Justin Mclean  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> There's a bit of discussion that can happen (and sometimes does) on
>> the issue trackers which provide a bit more interactive yet
>> asynchronous method of communication. The Slack activity is almost
>> comparable to general chit chat at ApacheCon hackathons or similar.
> 
> That may be so but I’m seeing stuff like this. Email on upcoming release [1] 
> points to GitHub [2] points to Slack [3]
> 
> In order to view [3] you need to create an account and log into slack. Now I 
> don’t think this is a graduation issue, but the PMC might want to consider 
> how they bring information back from slack rather than link to it. I assume 
> at some point the information behind that link would be lost (free tier 
> right?).
> 
> I’ll note the slack page also says "If you have an @us.ibm.com, @uk.ibm.com, 
> @adobe.com, @de.ibm.com, @il.ibm.com, or @apache.org email address, you can 
> create an account.” what if you don’t have one of those accounts? While a 
> committer will have an apache account, a contributor is not likely to have 
> any of those. (They could find this [4] and sign up). Seems like a barrier to 
> entry I think.
> 
> Thanks,
> Justin
> 
> 1. 
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ddf47c05e72426a47f0a414e1dd68cc6075fa4a60be1753318ebfe58@%3Cdev.openwhisk.apache.org%3E
> 2. https://github.com/apache/incubator-openwhisk-release/issues/241
> 3. https://openwhisk-team.slack.com/archives/C3TPCAQG1/p1560540116034700
> 4. http://openwhisk.incubator.apache.org/slack.html
> 
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Apache OpenWhisk graduation to Top Level Project

2019-06-16 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi,

> This is the link to signup to slack for this project 
> http://openwhisk.apache.org/slack.html

Yep I noted that in my email, but they would need to search for it. It would be 
good if the slack login page linked to that.

Thanks,
Justin
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