Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread John D. Ament
Hi all,

Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
private and should be discussed on their private list?

I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.

John


Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread jan i
On Sunday, January 4, 2015, John D. Ament  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
> public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
> private and should be discussed on their private list?


clearly public, the report is a matter for the whole community.

If the report was to contain a person issue a.k.a. discsused in private@  it
would be a problem that the wiki is public.

rgds
jan i

>
> I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.
>
> John
>


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Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
Board reports are always public, as are a project's/podling's discussions about 
what should go in their report.

It's the mentors job to clear up any confusion there may be for a podling 
writing its first report.

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> On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:25 AM, John D. Ament  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
> public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
> private and should be discussed on their private list?
> 
> I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.
> 
> John

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Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread Mark Struberg
I know many projects (TLP) which discuss/draft the report in private and only 
later make it public.

LieGrue,
strub





> On Sunday, 4 January 2015, 16:10, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
> > Board reports are always public, as are a project's/podling's 
> discussions about what should go in their report.
> 
> It's the mentors job to clear up any confusion there may be for a podling 
> writing its first report.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>>  On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:25 AM, John D. Ament  
> wrote:
>> 
>>  Hi all,
>> 
>>  Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
>>  public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
>>  private and should be discussed on their private list?
>> 
>>  I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.
>> 
>>  John
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Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread Alan Cabrera
Imnsho, that is a poor practice.

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> On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Mark Struberg  wrote:
> 
> I know many projects (TLP) which discuss/draft the report in private and only 
> later make it public.
> 
> LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Sunday, 4 January 2015, 16:10, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
>>> Board reports are always public, as are a project's/podling's
>> discussions about what should go in their report.
>> 
>> It's the mentors job to clear up any confusion there may be for a podling 
>> writing its first report.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
 On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:25 AM, John D. Ament 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
>>> public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
>>> private and should be discussed on their private list?
>>> 
>>> I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.
>>> 
>>> John
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Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread Rich Bowen
There are occasionally items that appear in board reports enclosed in 
, which concern behavior of project members, legal issues, 
not-yet-publicized security exploits, and the like, which should 
probably remain private. This is the exception, rather than the norm. 
Everything else should be public.


--Rich



On 01/04/2015 12:16 PM, Alan Cabrera wrote:

Imnsho, that is a poor practice.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 4, 2015, at 7:18 AM, Mark Struberg  wrote:

I know many projects (TLP) which discuss/draft the report in private and only 
later make it public.

LieGrue,
strub






On Sunday, 4 January 2015, 16:10, Alan Cabrera  wrote:
Board reports are always public, as are a project's/podling's

discussions about what should go in their report.

It's the mentors job to clear up any confusion there may be for a podling
writing its first report.

Sent from my iPhone



On Jan 4, 2015, at 5:25 AM, John D. Ament 

wrote:

Hi all,

Just wondering, should we tell podlings that a board report is considered
public while in draft and can be discussed on their dev list, or its
private and should be discussed on their private list?

I had always assumed public, but could hear someone say its private.

John


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Re: Board reports - public or private

2015-01-04 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 04/01/2015 Mark Struberg wrote:

I know many projects (TLP) which discuss/draft the report in private
and only later make it public.


OpenOffice, both as podling and TLP, has done the opposite (which I 
assume is the norm): report is discussed on the dev list, stored on a 
wiki page and the private list is only used if a  addendum 
needs to be inserted.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] Hyunsik Choi joins the IPMC

2015-01-04 Thread Hyunsik Choi
Thank you Roman and IPMC members!

On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Roman Shaposhnik  wrote:
> Hi!
>
> sorry for not sending this out sooner -- holidays got
> the best of me ;-)
>
> I am really happy to welcome  an ASF member
> Hyunsik Choi, who has recently voluteered to
> join the Incubator PMC!
>
> Great to have you on board, Hyunsik! Please
> make sure to subscribe to the IPMC MLs.
>
> Thanks,
> Roman.
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Re: Git write access for podlings

2015-01-04 Thread Branko Čibej
On 02.01.2015 11:36, Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> Apache Commons has already given write access to *all* ASF committers

So did Subversion, quite a while ago.

If you get rogue commits from someone, the solution is not extra tooling
but community management. Even more so in the case of the Incubator,
where access is restricted to IPMC members and podling committers — all
of whom should be well aware that you can't just go messing in some code
without checking with the project community first.

Understanding the concept of "community over code" and how to
collaborate is a requirement for new committers and triply so for IPMC
members.

-- Brane


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