Re: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Marvin Humphrey wrote on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:24:36 -0700:
> 2012/3/19 Jürgen Schmidt :
> 
> >> FWIW, there seemed to be extraneous .txt extensions attached to aoo.KEYS
> >> and some of the checksum files,
> >
> > I am not sure if I understand you here, can you explain it?
> 
> Apologies, I have tracked down the root of the problem and it was an error on
> my part when downloading some files via Safari.  I have now doublechecked and
> all of the files within this directory have the correct names:
> 
> http://people.apache.org/~jsc/developer-snapshots/src_releases/
> 
> >> and the format of the checksum files will not work with "md5sum --check"
> >> and "shasum --check" -- but that's all nitpicking.
> >
> > I used gpg on my Mac to generate md5 and sha checksums as found in the docu
> > (). I have to check it but is there an incompatibility already known?
> >
> > Using "md5" on my Mac gave me the same checksum
> 
> ... and so long as the sums are the same, that addresses all important
> concerns.  :)
> 

+1

> FWIW, some people like to use the "md5sum" and "shasum" command line apps
> (which seem to be distributed with certain Linux distros) when validating
> checksums.  Output from GPG isn't compatible with those apps, so those users
> must fall back to eyeball comparision.  It's a nice convenience to those users
> to put sums in a format that their automatic validation can chew -- but
> speaking from experience it's also a bit of a PITA to do it on a Mac[1].

% sha1sum /dev/null
da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709  /dev/null
% sha1 -r /dev/null
da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709 /dev/null
% openssl sha1 /dev/null
SHA1(/dev/null)= da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709
% sha1 /dev/null
SHA1 (/dev/null) = da39a3ee5e6b4b0d3255bfef95601890afd80709
% gpg --print-md sha1 /dev/null
/dev/null: DA39 A3EE 5E6B 4B0D 3255  BFEF 9560 1890 AFD8 0709

FWIW, at Subversion the .sha1 files contain just the bare sha1.

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RE: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project

2012-03-20 Thread Franklin, Matthew B.
+1 (binding)

>-Original Message-
>From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org]
>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>Cc: rat-...@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project
>
>As recommended[1]:
>
>  * the Rat community has indicated that its readiness[2] to graduate as
>the Apache Creadur Project
>  * the proposed charter has been reviewed[3]
>
>The penultimate stage is this VOTE by the incubator community. The VOTE
>is open to all but only IPMC votes are binding.
>
>I will tally the results no earlier than noon UTC on Thursday, March 22,
>2012[4].
>
>Robert
>
>[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>[2]
>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
>general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53968D.7070908%40apache.org%3E
>[3]
>http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
>general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53B9FB.4030404%40apache.org%3E
>[4]
>http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx?y=2012&mo=
>3&d=22&h=12&mn=0
>
>-8<---
>[ ] +1 Recommend The Apache Creadur Proposal To The Board (below)
>[ ] +0
>[ ] -0
>[ ] -1 Do not graduate Rat podling
>--
>
>-8<--
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>  Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>  Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>  open-source software related to the comprehension and
>  auditing of software distributions for distribution at
>  no charge to the public.
>
>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>  Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Creadur Project",
>  be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>  Foundation; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
>  responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>  software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
>  distributions; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Creadur" be
>  and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>  serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>  of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
>  for management of the projects within the scope of
>  responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>  hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>  Apache Creadur Project:
>
>   * Stefan Bodewig 
>   * Brian E Fox 
>   * David Crossley 
>   * David Blevins 
>   * Dennis Lundberg 
>   * Gavin McDonald 
>   * Jochen Wiedmann 
>   * Niall Pemberton 
>   * Robert Burrell Donkin 
>   * Ross Duncan Gardler 
>   * Sebastian Bazley 
>
>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
>  Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>  Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
>  direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>  Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>  disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>  it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
>  tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>  encourage open development and increased participation in the
>  Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
>  is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>  Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>  Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>  Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

2012-03-20 Thread Herbert Duerr

I don't see the Incubation disclaimer in either a dedicated DISCLAIMER file or
the README.  Also, the word "incubating" is not in the archive filename.


Indeed, thanks. I added the Incubation Disclaimer to the README file.

When even OpenOffice gets abbreviated for the download archives, must 
they all really include the full word "incubation" or only the source 
archive?


E.g. the install set for version 3.4.0 of the US-English Intel/AMD 64bit 
Linux port already has the quite long name

   OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
Should the proper download name be
   Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
or would
   AOOi_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
suffice?

Herbert

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2012-03-20 Thread Jaremus, Rolfe
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Re: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project

2012-03-20 Thread Mark Struberg
+1 (binding)

LieGrue,
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- Original Message -
> From: "Franklin, Matthew B." 
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" 
> Cc: "rat-...@incubator.apache.org" 
> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project
> 
> +1 (binding)
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Robert Burrell Donkin [mailto:rdon...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: rat-...@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project
>> 
>> As recommended[1]:
>> 
>>   * the Rat community has indicated that its readiness[2] to graduate as
>> the Apache Creadur Project
>>   * the proposed charter has been reviewed[3]
>> 
>> The penultimate stage is this VOTE by the incubator community. The VOTE
>> is open to all but only IPMC votes are binding.
>> 
>> I will tally the results no earlier than noon UTC on Thursday, March 22,
>> 2012[4].
>> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>> [2]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
>> general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53968D.7070908%40apache.org%3E
>> [3]
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-
>> general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53B9FB.4030404%40apache.org%3E
>> [4]
>> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx?y=2012&mo=
>> 3&d=22&h=12&mn=0
>> 
>> -8<---
>> [ ] +1 Recommend The Apache Creadur Proposal To The Board (below)
>> [ ] +0
>> [ ] -0
>> [ ] -1 Do not graduate Rat podling
>> --
>> 
>> -8<--
>> 
>>   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>   open-source software related to the comprehension and
>>   auditing of software distributions for distribution at
>>   no charge to the public.
>> 
>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>>   Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Creadur Project",
>>   be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>>   Foundation; and be it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
>>   responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>>   software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
>>   distributions; and be it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Creadur" be
>>   and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>>   serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>>   of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
>>   for management of the projects within the scope of
>>   responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>>   hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>>   Apache Creadur Project:
>> 
>>    * Stefan Bodewig 
>>    * Brian E Fox 
>>    * David Crossley 
>>    * David Blevins 
>>    * Dennis Lundberg 
>>    * Gavin McDonald 
>>    * Jochen Wiedmann 
>>    * Niall Pemberton 
>>    * Robert Burrell Donkin 
>>    * Ross Duncan Gardler 
>>    * Sebastian Bazley 
>> 
>>   NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
>>   Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>>   Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
>>   direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>>   Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>>   disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>>   it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
>>   tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>>   encourage open development and increased participation in the
>>   Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
>>   is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>>   Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
>> 
>>   RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>>   Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>>   Project are hereafter discharged.
>> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flume version 1.1.0-incubating (rc1)

2012-03-20 Thread Andrew Bayer
+1 - binary tarball looks right now.

A.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Arvind Prabhakar  wrote:

> This is the second incubator release for Apache Flume, version
> 1.1.0-incubating. We are now voting on release candidate rc1.
>
> *** Please cast your vote within the next 72 hours ***
>
> The list of fixed issues:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flume/tags/flume-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/CHANGELOG
>
> The tarball (*.tar.gz), signature (*.asc), checksum (*.md5sum,
> *.sha1sum) for the source and binary can be found at:
> http://people.apache.org/~arvind/flume/110rc1/
>
> The tag to be voted upon:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flume/tags/flume-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/
>
> The KEYS file:
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/flume/KEYS
>
> Changes since last build:
> * FLUME-1032. Fix Flume NG build for binary distribution
> * Updated change log and release notes.
>


committer access for jtrost

2012-03-20 Thread Billie J Rinaldi
Please grant committer access to podling Accumulo for Jason Trost (jtrost).  
His account has been created as per the email below, which references the vote 
thread.

Thanks!
Billie


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> Cc: priv...@incubator.apache.org, accumulo-priv...@incubator.apache.org, 
> "Jason Trost" 
> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:27:35 PM
> Subject: [FORM] Account Request - accumulo@incubator: Jason Trost
> Preferred userid: jtrost
> Full name: Jason Trost
> Forwarding email address: jason.tr...@gmail.com
> 
> Vote reference:
> https://mail-search.apache.org/members/private-arch/incubator-private/201203.mbox/%3c1068304230.185777.1331063186251.javamail.r...@linzimmb04o.imo.intelink.gov%3e
> 
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Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Flume version 1.1.0-incubating (rc1)

2012-03-20 Thread Mike Percy
+1 (non-binding, Flume contributor)

- Ran "mvn clean package" from the unpacked source artifact and it successfully 
built the source & binary artifacts
- Unpacked the binary artifact built from the source artifact and was able to 
run a simple flume agent that generates numbers and prints them to stdout
- Verified existence of the NOTICE, LICENSE, CHANGELOG, and RELEASE-NOTES files 
- from a quick check they look good to me

Mike

On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:

> This is the second incubator release for Apache Flume, version
> 1.1.0-incubating. We are now voting on release candidate rc1.
> 
> *** Please cast your vote within the next 72 hours ***
> 
> The list of fixed issues:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flume/tags/flume-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/CHANGELOG
> 
> The tarball (*.tar.gz), signature (*.asc), checksum (*.md5sum,
> *.sha1sum) for the source and binary can be found at:
> http://people.apache.org/~arvind/flume/110rc1/
> 
> The tag to be voted upon:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flume/tags/flume-1.1.0-incubating-rc1/
> 
> The KEYS file:
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/flume/KEYS
> 
> Changes since last build:
> * FLUME-1032. Fix Flume NG build for binary distribution
> * Updated change log and release notes.


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Re: committer access for jtrost

2012-03-20 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Billie J Rinaldi
 wrote:
> Please grant committer access to podling Accumulo for Jason Trost (jtrost).

Done. Happy hacking!

BR,

Jukka Zitting

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Re: Hadoop developers

2012-03-20 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Look at the List-Unsubscribe header in every mail from the list for the
address to email to in order to unsubscribe.

(also, this is general@incubator, not general@hadoop)


Jaremus, Rolfe wrote on Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 14:35:48 -0400:
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> 
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> 
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AOO LICENSE/NOTICE files

2012-03-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
Greets,

As noted below, the AOO LICENSE and NOTICE files are in what seems to me to be
an unusual configuration.  I'm not planning on voting -1 because of it, but
others may feel differently, and rather than make the AOO folks go through
several release candidates down the road, it would be nice to hear objections
now.

Marvin Humphrey

On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey
>  wrote:

>> I was a little surprised that the LICENSE file contained only the ALv2, and
>> that NOTICE points at the websites for dependencies and their licensing.
>> Ordinarily, I would expect to see entire verbatim licenses for all bundled
>> dependencies in LICENSE.
>>
>
> OK.

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Re: Request for an early review of an potential Apache OpenOffice release

2012-03-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Herbert Duerr  wrote:

> Indeed, thanks. I added the Incubation Disclaimer to the README file.

Great, thanks!

> When even OpenOffice gets abbreviated for the download archives, must they
> all really include the full word "incubation" or only the source archive?
>
> E.g. the install set for version 3.4.0 of the US-English Intel/AMD 64bit
> Linux port already has the quite long name
>   OOo_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
> Should the proper download name be
>   Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
> or would
>   AOOi_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64-install-arc_en-US.tar.gz
> suffice?

Both of those are unwieldy!

Long-standing Incubator policy is that "incubating" must be in the name:

  http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html#Releases

  Should the Incubator PMC, in accordance with these guidelines vote to
  approve the request, the Podling MAY perform the release under the following
  constraints:

* the release archive MUST contain the word "incubating" in the filename;
  and
* the release archive MUST contain an Incubation disclaimer (as described
  in the previous section), clearly visible in the main documentation or
  README file.

Since shortening doesn't materially change ease of typability or clickability,
I don't see a reason to start down the difficult path of changing that policy
or obtaining a variance.

Marvin Humphrey

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[VOTE] Release for Bigtop version 0.3.0-incubating

2012-03-20 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
This is the third incubator release for Apache Bigtop, version 0.3.0-incubating.

It fixes the following issues:
  
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=12317841&projectId=12311420

The delta between RC0 and RC1 includes fixes for the following issues:
   BIGTOP-446. Typo in hadoop module for puppet
   BIGTOP-459. remove references to cloudera from the packaging files
   BIGTOP-443. deb/oozie/oozie-client.postinst installs an alternative
for a path that isn't there
   BIGTOP-382. hadoop-conf-pseudo packages contains subversion metada
   BIGTOP-457. Bigtop 0.3.0: Hadoop namenode doesnt start after
installing the deb package

*** Please download, test, and vote by Mon, March 26

Note that we are voting on the source (tag): release-0.3.0-incubating-RC1

Source tarball, checksums, signature:
http://people.apache.org/~rvs/bigtop-0.3.0-incubating-RC1/

The tag to be voted on:
   
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop/tags/release-0.3.0-incubating-RC1/

Bigtop's KEYS file, containing the PGP keys used to sign the release:
   http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/bigtop/dist/KEYS

Please also make sure to try installing our convenience binary distribution
artifacts. We are publishing the Bigtop 0.3.0 incubating distributions for the
following Linux platforms: Ubuntu 10.04, CentOS 5, CentOS 6, Fedora 15,
Fedora 16, SLES 11. The easies way to install Bigtop distribution on
your favorite Linux OS is to pick one of the attached files, and place
it (as root) in the following folder:
  * Ubuntu -- /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
  * CentOS5, CentOS6, Fedora 15, Fedora 16 -- /etc/yum.repos.d/
  * SLES 11 -- /etc/zypp/repos.d/

After that you can follow the installation instructions from over here (DO NOT
FORGET TO SKIP STEPS #1 and #2):
  
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/BIGTOP/How+to+install+Hadoop+distribution+from+Bigtop

Thanks!

Bigtop 0.3.0 release manager,
Roman Shaposhnik


bigtop.tar.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data

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Re: AOO LICENSE/NOTICE files

2012-03-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Marvin Humphrey  wrote:
> Greets,
>
> As noted below, the AOO LICENSE and NOTICE files are in what seems to me to be
> an unusual configuration.  I'm not planning on voting -1 because of it, but
> others may feel differently, and rather than make the AOO folks go through
> several release candidates down the road, it would be nice to hear objections
> now.
>

Actually, we're updating this per your advice.

See, for example:
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/LICENSE?view=markup

-Rob

> Marvin Humphrey
>
> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Rob Weir  wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Marvin Humphrey
>>  wrote:
>
>>> I was a little surprised that the LICENSE file contained only the ALv2, and
>>> that NOTICE points at the websites for dependencies and their licensing.
>>> Ordinarily, I would expect to see entire verbatim licenses for all bundled
>>> dependencies in LICENSE.
>>>
>>
>> OK.
>
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Re: AOO LICENSE/NOTICE files

2012-03-20 Thread Greg Stein
On Mar 20, 2012 9:54 PM, "Rob Weir"  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Marvin Humphrey 
wrote:
> > Greets,
> >
> > As noted below, the AOO LICENSE and NOTICE files are in what seems to
me to be
> > an unusual configuration.  I'm not planning on voting -1 because of it,
but
> > others may feel differently, and rather than make the AOO folks go
through
> > several release candidates down the road, it would be nice to hear
objections
> > now.
> >
>
> Actually, we're updating this per your advice.
>
> See, for example:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/LICENSE?view=markup

Hunh? The Apache License, section 4(d) states these go into NOTICE.

Cheers,
-g


Re: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project

2012-03-20 Thread David Crossley
Thanks.

+1

-David

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Re: [VOTE][IPMC] Graduate RAT as Apache Creadur Project

2012-03-20 Thread Greg Stein
+1 (binding)

I am concerned about the choice of Robert for VP given his
(self-stated) very little time available at the keyboard. The VP
cannot simply spend 30 minutes on a report and be done for the
quarter. The Chair is the project liaison in both directions, and that
usually takes 5-10 hours/month.

Cheers,
-g

On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 15:42, Robert Burrell Donkin  wrote:
> As recommended[1]:
>
>  * the Rat community has indicated that its readiness[2] to graduate as the
> Apache Creadur Project
>  * the proposed charter has been reviewed[3]
>
> The penultimate stage is this VOTE by the incubator community. The VOTE is
> open to all but only IPMC votes are binding.
>
> I will tally the results no earlier than noon UTC on Thursday, March 22,
> 2012[4].
>
> Robert
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
> [2]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53968D.7070908%40apache.org%3E
> [3]
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201203.mbox/%3C4F53B9FB.4030404%40apache.org%3E
> [4]
> http://www.worldtimeserver.com/convert_time_in_UTC.aspx?y=2012&mo=3&d=22&h=12&mn=0
>
> -8<---
> [ ] +1 Recommend The Apache Creadur Proposal To The Board (below)
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Do not graduate Rat podling
> --
>
> -8<--
>
>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>  Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>  Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>  open-source software related to the comprehension and
>  auditing of software distributions for distribution at
>  no charge to the public.
>
>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management
>  Committee (PMC), to be known as the "Apache Creadur Project",
>  be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the
>  Foundation; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby is
>  responsible for the creation and maintenance of open-source
>  software related to the comprehension and auditing of software
>  distributions; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the office of "Vice President, Apache Creadur" be
>  and hereby is created, the person holding such office to
>  serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair
>  of the Apache Creadur Project, and to have primary responsibility
>  for management of the projects within the scope of
>  responsibility of the Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and
>  hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the
>  Apache Creadur Project:
>
>  * Stefan Bodewig 
>  * Brian E Fox 
>  * David Crossley 
>  * David Blevins 
>  * Dennis Lundberg 
>  * Gavin McDonald 
>  * Jochen Wiedmann 
>  * Niall Pemberton 
>  * Robert Burrell Donkin 
>  * Ross Duncan Gardler 
>  * Sebastian Bazley 
>
>  NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Robert Burrell
>  Donkin be appointed to the office of Vice President, Apache
>  Creadur, to serve in accordance with and subject to the
>  direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the
>  Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or
>  disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be
>  it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the initial Apache Creadur PMC be and hereby is
>  tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to
>  encourage open development and increased participation in the
>  Apache Creadur Project; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that the Apache Creadur Project be and hereby
>  is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache
>  Incubator RAT podling; and be it further
>
>  RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache
>  Incubator RAT podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator
>  Project are hereafter discharged.
>
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Re: AOO LICENSE/NOTICE files

2012-03-20 Thread Marvin Humphrey
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Greg Stein  wrote:
> On Mar 20, 2012 9:54 PM, "Rob Weir"  wrote:

>> See, for example:
>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/trunk/main/LICENSE?view=markup
>
> Hunh? The Apache License, section 4(d) states these go into NOTICE.

First, a general response:

There has been considerable (interminable?) debate on this list and elsewhere
as to what goes in LICENSE and what goes in NOTICE.  Personally, I don't
really care how things get resolved; my main motivation in starting this
thread is that we avoid putting AOO through the wringer that we put Rave,
Kafka, etc. through, because what with all those binaries the cost of rolling
a release candidate for AOO is high.

So please, everyone... get it all out of your system now, and don't all of a
sudden decide that to -1 an AOO release candidate because in your opinion
something that was supposed to go in NOTICE ended up in LICENSE or vice versa
or whatever.

Now, to address the specifics:

Current fashion with regards to NOTICE seems to be that we put stuff there
like the advertising clause of a 4-clause BSD dependency, and that we do *not*
put stuff there like the the copyright notice on 2-clause or 3-clause BSD
or ALv2 unless some copyright holder has decided that they're (ahem) more
special than all our other contributors and demanded specific recognition (via
"copyright relocation") in NOTICE.  See LEGAL-62 and LEGAL-59 as apologia, and
the Apache HTTPD LICENSE/NOTICE files as canonical samples.

IMO, the LICENSE/NOTICE dichotomy debates are sound and fury signifying
little, so long as the following are true:

* All code, either contributed to the ASF or bundled as a dependency, has
  proper provenance documentation.
* All source code is clearly associated with the license the author
  contributed it under, typically via licenses or license headers embedded
  in individual source files, but sometimes via a local README as might be
  appropriate for a commentless format like JSON.
* All primary and dependency code is utilized under licenses compatible
  with aggregate distribution under ALv2.

IANAL, but it seems to me that so long as we get individual source file
license tagging right, whether redundant licensing information ends up in
"LICENSE" or "NOTICE" is unlikely to be a determining factor in whether
somebody launches a lawsuit.

The AOO folks have got to be as sophisticated as any podling that has come
through the Incubator in recent memory with regards to licensing, and assuming
that we can trust the provenance tracking of Sun/Oracle, I'd say they've got
things covered:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/IP_Clearance

It's a complicated project and it's good to provide review, but I'm not
inclined to hassle them much about LICENSE/NOTICE.  If anybody else is, let's
do it now, while the cost to the podling is comparatively low.

Marvin Humphrey

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