Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project

2011-02-13 Thread Brian McCallister
The proposal looks fine, but the name collides with http://howl.ow2.org/

-Brian

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Gates  wrote:
> I would like to propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project.  Howl is a
> table and storage management service for data created using Apache Hadoop.
>  The proposal is on the Incubator wiki at
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal and is pasted below.  Thanks.
>
> Alan.
>
> == Abstract ==
> Howl is a table and storage management service for data created using Apache
> Hadoop.
>
> == Proposal ==
> The vision of Howl is to provide table management and storage management
> layers for Apache Hadoop.  This includes:
>  * Providing a shared schema and data type mechanism.
>  * Providing a table abstraction so that users need not be concerned with
> where or how their data is stored.
>  * Providing interoperability across data processing tools such as Pig, Map
> Reduce, Streaming, and Hive.
>
> == Background ==
> Data processors using Apache Hadoop have a common need for table management
> services.  The goal of a table management service is to track data that
> exists in a Hadoop grid and present that data to users in a tabular format.
>  Such a table management service needs to provide a single input and output
> format to users so that individual users need not be concerned with the
> storage formats that are chosen for particular data sets.  As part of having
> a single format, the data will need to be described by one type of schema
> and have a single datatype system.
>
> Additionally, users should be free to choose the best tools for their use
> cases.  The Hadoop project includes Map Reduce, Streaming, Pig, and Hive,
> and additional tools exist such as Cascading.  Each of these tools has users
> who prefer it, and there are use cases best addressed by each of these
> tools.  Two users on the same grid who need to share data should not be
> constrained to use the same tool but rather should be free to choose the
> best tool for their use case.  A table management service that presents data
> in the same way to all of the tools can alleviate this problem by providing
> interfaces to each of the data processing tools.
>
> There are also a few other features a table management service should
> provide, such as notification of when data arrives.
>
> A couple of developers at Yahoo! started the project. It is based on the
> Hive !MetaStore component. There is good amount of interest in such a
> service expressed from Yahoo!, Facebook, !LinkedIn, and, others. We are
> therefore proposing to place Howl in the Apache incubator and to build an
> open source community around it.
>
>
> == Rationale ==
> There is a strong need for a table management service, especially for large
> grids with petabytes of data, and where the data volume is increasing by the
> day. Hadoop users need to find data to read and have a place to store their
> data.  Currently users must understand the location of data to read, the
> storage format, compression techniques used, etc.  To write data they need
> to understand where on HDFS their data belongs, the best compression format
> to use, how their data should be serialized, etc.
>
> Most users do not want to be concerned with these issues.  They want these
> managed for them.
>
> Having it as an Apache Open Source project will highly benefit Howl from the
> point of view of getting a large community that currently uses Hadoop and
> the other products built around Hadoop (like Pig, Hive, etc.). Users of the
> Hadoop ecosystem can influence Howl’s roadmap, and contribute to it. Looking
> at it in another way, we believe having Howl as part of the Hadoop ecosystem
> will be a great benefit to the current Hadoop/Pig/Hive community too.
>
> == Current Status ==
> === Meritocracy ===
> Our intent with this incubator proposal is to start building a diverse
> developer community around Howl following the Apache meritocracy model. We
> have wanted to make the project open source and encourage contributors from
> multiple organizations from the start. We plan to provide plenty of support
> to new developers and to quickly recruit those who make solid contributions
> to committer status.
>
> === Community ===
> Howl is currently being used by developers at Yahoo! and there has been an
> expressed interest from !LinkedIn and Facebook. Yahoo! also plans to deploy
> the current version of Howl in production soon. We hope to extend the user
> and developer base further in the future. The current developers and users
> are all interested in building a solid open source community around Howl.
>
> To work towards an open source community, we have started using the !GitHub
> issue tracker and mailing lists at Yahoo! for development discussions within
> our group.
>
> === Core Developers ===
> Howl is currently being developed by four engineers from Yahoo! - Devaraj
> Das, Ashutosh Chauhan, Sushanth Sowmyan, and Mac Yang. All the engineers
> have deep expertise i

Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project

2011-02-13 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Good catch, but allow me to disagree with you. Howl here is a name,
while OW2 HOWL is an acronym for "High-speed ObjectWeb Logger" and on
[1] it is all written in capital letters.

[1] - http://howl.ow2.org/

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Brian McCallister  wrote:
> The proposal looks fine, but the name collides with http://howl.ow2.org/
>
> -Brian
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Gates  wrote:
>> I would like to propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project.  Howl is a
>> table and storage management service for data created using Apache Hadoop.
>>  The proposal is on the Incubator wiki at
>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal and is pasted below.  Thanks.
>>
>> Alan.
>>
>> == Abstract ==
>> Howl is a table and storage management service for data created using Apache
>> Hadoop.
>>
>> == Proposal ==
>> The vision of Howl is to provide table management and storage management
>> layers for Apache Hadoop.  This includes:
>>  * Providing a shared schema and data type mechanism.
>>  * Providing a table abstraction so that users need not be concerned with
>> where or how their data is stored.
>>  * Providing interoperability across data processing tools such as Pig, Map
>> Reduce, Streaming, and Hive.
>>
>> == Background ==
>> Data processors using Apache Hadoop have a common need for table management
>> services.  The goal of a table management service is to track data that
>> exists in a Hadoop grid and present that data to users in a tabular format.
>>  Such a table management service needs to provide a single input and output
>> format to users so that individual users need not be concerned with the
>> storage formats that are chosen for particular data sets.  As part of having
>> a single format, the data will need to be described by one type of schema
>> and have a single datatype system.
>>
>> Additionally, users should be free to choose the best tools for their use
>> cases.  The Hadoop project includes Map Reduce, Streaming, Pig, and Hive,
>> and additional tools exist such as Cascading.  Each of these tools has users
>> who prefer it, and there are use cases best addressed by each of these
>> tools.  Two users on the same grid who need to share data should not be
>> constrained to use the same tool but rather should be free to choose the
>> best tool for their use case.  A table management service that presents data
>> in the same way to all of the tools can alleviate this problem by providing
>> interfaces to each of the data processing tools.
>>
>> There are also a few other features a table management service should
>> provide, such as notification of when data arrives.
>>
>> A couple of developers at Yahoo! started the project. It is based on the
>> Hive !MetaStore component. There is good amount of interest in such a
>> service expressed from Yahoo!, Facebook, !LinkedIn, and, others. We are
>> therefore proposing to place Howl in the Apache incubator and to build an
>> open source community around it.
>>
>>
>> == Rationale ==
>> There is a strong need for a table management service, especially for large
>> grids with petabytes of data, and where the data volume is increasing by the
>> day. Hadoop users need to find data to read and have a place to store their
>> data.  Currently users must understand the location of data to read, the
>> storage format, compression techniques used, etc.  To write data they need
>> to understand where on HDFS their data belongs, the best compression format
>> to use, how their data should be serialized, etc.
>>
>> Most users do not want to be concerned with these issues.  They want these
>> managed for them.
>>
>> Having it as an Apache Open Source project will highly benefit Howl from the
>> point of view of getting a large community that currently uses Hadoop and
>> the other products built around Hadoop (like Pig, Hive, etc.). Users of the
>> Hadoop ecosystem can influence Howl’s roadmap, and contribute to it. Looking
>> at it in another way, we believe having Howl as part of the Hadoop ecosystem
>> will be a great benefit to the current Hadoop/Pig/Hive community too.
>>
>> == Current Status ==
>> === Meritocracy ===
>> Our intent with this incubator proposal is to start building a diverse
>> developer community around Howl following the Apache meritocracy model. We
>> have wanted to make the project open source and encourage contributors from
>> multiple organizations from the start. We plan to provide plenty of support
>> to new developers and to quickly recruit those who make solid contributions
>> to committer status.
>>
>> === Community ===
>> Howl is currently being used by developers at Yahoo! and there has been an
>> expressed interest from !LinkedIn and Facebook. Yahoo! also plans to deploy
>> the current version of Howl in production soon. We hope to extend the user
>> and developer base further in the future. The current developers and users
>> are all interested in building a solid open source community around Howl.
>>
>> To work 

Re: [PROPOSAL] Propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project

2011-02-13 Thread dsh
There as well exists a Zeroconf implementation called Howl and I am
pretty certain that some other projects are using that name too.

Cheers
Daniel

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
 wrote:
> Good catch, but allow me to disagree with you. Howl here is a name,
> while OW2 HOWL is an acronym for "High-speed ObjectWeb Logger" and on
> [1] it is all written in capital letters.
>
> [1] - http://howl.ow2.org/
>
> On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Brian McCallister  wrote:
>> The proposal looks fine, but the name collides with http://howl.ow2.org/
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Alan Gates  wrote:
>>> I would like to propose Howl as an Apache Incubator project.  Howl is a
>>> table and storage management service for data created using Apache Hadoop.
>>>  The proposal is on the Incubator wiki at
>>> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/HowlProposal and is pasted below.  Thanks.
>>>
>>> Alan.
>>>
>>> == Abstract ==
>>> Howl is a table and storage management service for data created using Apache
>>> Hadoop.
>>>
>>> == Proposal ==
>>> The vision of Howl is to provide table management and storage management
>>> layers for Apache Hadoop.  This includes:
>>>  * Providing a shared schema and data type mechanism.
>>>  * Providing a table abstraction so that users need not be concerned with
>>> where or how their data is stored.
>>>  * Providing interoperability across data processing tools such as Pig, Map
>>> Reduce, Streaming, and Hive.
>>>
>>> == Background ==
>>> Data processors using Apache Hadoop have a common need for table management
>>> services.  The goal of a table management service is to track data that
>>> exists in a Hadoop grid and present that data to users in a tabular format.
>>>  Such a table management service needs to provide a single input and output
>>> format to users so that individual users need not be concerned with the
>>> storage formats that are chosen for particular data sets.  As part of having
>>> a single format, the data will need to be described by one type of schema
>>> and have a single datatype system.
>>>
>>> Additionally, users should be free to choose the best tools for their use
>>> cases.  The Hadoop project includes Map Reduce, Streaming, Pig, and Hive,
>>> and additional tools exist such as Cascading.  Each of these tools has users
>>> who prefer it, and there are use cases best addressed by each of these
>>> tools.  Two users on the same grid who need to share data should not be
>>> constrained to use the same tool but rather should be free to choose the
>>> best tool for their use case.  A table management service that presents data
>>> in the same way to all of the tools can alleviate this problem by providing
>>> interfaces to each of the data processing tools.
>>>
>>> There are also a few other features a table management service should
>>> provide, such as notification of when data arrives.
>>>
>>> A couple of developers at Yahoo! started the project. It is based on the
>>> Hive !MetaStore component. There is good amount of interest in such a
>>> service expressed from Yahoo!, Facebook, !LinkedIn, and, others. We are
>>> therefore proposing to place Howl in the Apache incubator and to build an
>>> open source community around it.
>>>
>>>
>>> == Rationale ==
>>> There is a strong need for a table management service, especially for large
>>> grids with petabytes of data, and where the data volume is increasing by the
>>> day. Hadoop users need to find data to read and have a place to store their
>>> data.  Currently users must understand the location of data to read, the
>>> storage format, compression techniques used, etc.  To write data they need
>>> to understand where on HDFS their data belongs, the best compression format
>>> to use, how their data should be serialized, etc.
>>>
>>> Most users do not want to be concerned with these issues.  They want these
>>> managed for them.
>>>
>>> Having it as an Apache Open Source project will highly benefit Howl from the
>>> point of view of getting a large community that currently uses Hadoop and
>>> the other products built around Hadoop (like Pig, Hive, etc.). Users of the
>>> Hadoop ecosystem can influence Howl’s roadmap, and contribute to it. Looking
>>> at it in another way, we believe having Howl as part of the Hadoop ecosystem
>>> will be a great benefit to the current Hadoop/Pig/Hive community too.
>>>
>>> == Current Status ==
>>> === Meritocracy ===
>>> Our intent with this incubator proposal is to start building a diverse
>>> developer community around Howl following the Apache meritocracy model. We
>>> have wanted to make the project open source and encourage contributors from
>>> multiple organizations from the start. We plan to provide plenty of support
>>> to new developers and to quickly recruit those who make solid contributions
>>> to committer status.
>>>
>>> === Community ===
>>> Howl is currently being used by developers at Yahoo! and there has been an
>>> expressed inte

Missing reports: Bluesky, Deltacloud, HISE, Mesos, Stonehenge

2011-02-13 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
Hi...

   Dear Mentors, all of these reports are still missing from [1].
Would you please make sure that it is provided and signed max by
tomorrow Monday 13 February 2011. Looking forward your feedbacks.

[1] - http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2011

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