RE: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

[Noel J. Bergman]

> What's wrong with a dictator for life?  Larry Wall is the dictator for
> life for Perl but that doesn't mean that Perl isn't a meritocracy.

And Mark Shuttleworth is for Ubuntu, and as much as I respect Mark, right
now they are shoving a particular change down the throats of the Ubuntu
community that only Mark and MPT actually want, at least in the timeframe it
is being forced.  Were it an ASF project, someone would have vetoed the code
change long ago, and forced the discussion to allow *community* involvement.

--- Noel



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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Click graduation

[Eelco Hillenius]

I'm a bit late to this discussion, but nevertheless would like to
throw in my opinion.

As far as I know Click, the project has been stable for a while, and
doesn't encompass a crazy amount of code, and it's ambitions as a
framework are humble compared to some of the other projects mentioned
in this thread. I wouldn't be too worried about this project having a
relatively small PMC/ community if they spend their time mostly on
maintaining their code base, with maybe a little tweaking here and
there.

That said, I agree with most here that Click should show that there is
at least a little bit of movement in it's community, as that's one of
the main ideas behind incubation, right?

My 2c,

Eelco


> Comparing the original proposal to the graduation resolution it seems
> that click entered incubation with 4 committers and proposes to leave
> with 3.
>
> IMO a PMC of three is not enough - one person disappears and you can't
> get the three votes required to do anything.

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