Re: [ftpserver] Contributing to FTPServr

2005-08-17 Thread Niklas Gustavsson
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> An interesting "enhancement" would be to base it on MINA, which is a NIO 
> subsystem, made to drive high volume traffic, and has an active community. It 
> currently resides in Apache Directory Server project. It suits well with the 
> MINA scope, and would then have a good home and not orphaned like now.
> Protocols already implemented on top of MINA (IIUC) includes LDAP, Kerberos, 
> DHCP and DNS.

MINA looks very interesting, I just wrote up a prototype implementation
for FTPServer which will take us a long way to removing the Avalon
dependencies.

But, do you think that Apache Directory Server/MINA would be a
appropriate home for a fully fledged FTP server? I would imagine it's
beyond their scope.

/niklas

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Re: [ftpserver] Contributing to FTPServr

2005-08-17 Thread Trustin Lee
Hi Niklas, 

2005/8/17, Niklas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> But, do you think that Apache Directory Server/MINA would be a
> appropriate home for a fully fledged FTP server? I would imagine it's
> beyond their scope.


Of course MINA could provide codecs for popular protocols like FTP and SMTP 
out-of-the-box. It will take MINA to the level of full-featured 
client/server development platform. We also could provide visual protocol 
design tool which closely integrates with Apache ASN.1 codec. Can you 
imagine that? Actually I'm thinking about proposing this to Incubator 
project. :)

But you can, of course, just use MINA to program FTP server and provide it 
as a separate project.

Trustin
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Re: [ftpserver] Contributing to FTPServr

2005-08-17 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Wednesday 17 August 2005 17:30, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
> Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> > An interesting "enhancement" would be to base it on MINA, which is a NIO
> > subsystem, made to drive high volume traffic, and has an active
> > community. It currently resides in Apache Directory Server project. It
> > suits well with the MINA scope, and would then have a good home and not
> > orphaned like now. Protocols already implemented on top of MINA (IIUC)
> > includes LDAP, Kerberos, DHCP and DNS.
>
> MINA looks very interesting, I just wrote up a prototype implementation
> for FTPServer which will take us a long way to removing the Avalon
> dependencies.
>
> But, do you think that Apache Directory Server/MINA would be a
> appropriate home for a fully fledged FTP server? I would imagine it's
> beyond their scope.

As has been expressed by Trustin, and by ALex Karasulu at several occassions, 
MINA has the potential to become a top-level project in ASF, in which case 
FTP is a natural fit. So far, it has only been a matter of timing to minimize 
disruptions on the Directory project.


Cheers
Niclas

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Re: proposal for an ESB/broker project: Synapse

2005-08-17 Thread Jim Jagielski


On Aug 15, 2005, at 10:14 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:


Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote:


If the WS PMC has voted to incubate this project, you should be  
good to



go.


Oh! Don't we still need a vote?



If a PMC votes to submit a project for incubation, the Incubator  
PMC does

not vote; the project is accepted, and the mentors are added to the
Incubator PMC.



The online guide

(http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Process_Description.html)

uses the term "... will propose to the Incubator PMC ... that your
candidate project be escalated to Podling status" which implies
not a vote per-se, but some more formal acceptance procedure; that
is, the Incubator must formally accept it, even if it's just an
ACK or Accepted... This provides, IMO, the crucial notice to
the Incubator as well.

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Re: svn commit: r232816 - in /incubator/public/trunk/site-author: projects/mod_ftp.html site.xml

2005-08-17 Thread Jim Jagielski

Yeah, now that I have svn access back, I committed it

On Aug 15, 2005, at 11:25 PM, David Crossley wrote:


Jim, i generated and published that.

However, you also need to add an entry to
the index table site-author/projects/index.html

-David



Author: jim
Date: Mon Aug 15 07:08:51 2005
New Revision: 232816

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=232816&view=rev
Log:
Initial preload of mod_ftp

Added:
incubator/public/trunk/site-author/projects/mod_ftp.html
Modified:
incubator/public/trunk/site-author/site.xml



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Re: proposal for an ESB/broker project: Synapse

2005-08-17 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
Hi James,

> This looks a very interesting proposal! It certainly has my full  
> support.

Thanks!

> FWIW I'm part of the ServiceMix community (http://servicemix.org/ 
> Team) who are working on an open source, Apache 2.0 licensed ESB  
> based on a JBI container and component suite called ServiceMix  
> (http://servicemix.org). The team already contains quite a few Apache  
> committers, many of who are from Geronimo and we've already  
> integrated ServiceMix into Geronimo to provide full JBI support.

Yep, I knew that :).

> We'd be very interested in helping Synapse achieve full JBI support  
> (if it wants it) as we've a full JBI container and suite all ready to  
> integrate straight in whenever you're ready; I'm sure the ServiceMix  
> team will be more than happy to help create some Synapse JBI  
> components letting Synapse components play nice inside any JBI  
> container such as ServiceMix or Geronimo.

Excellent .. looking forward to cooperating on this!

> I look forward to some lurking on the Synapse lists :). By all means  
> if any Synapse folks are interested in JBI, please feel welcome to  
> lurk on the ServiceMix lists too (http://servicemix.org/Mailing+Lists).
> Have the synapse mail lists been created yet?

Not yet - I have to work on the infra stuff next; I'll crank that out
ASAP. I'm sure many of the Synapse committers will join the ServiceMix
lists as well.

I look forward to working with you folks!

Sanjiva.



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