FVWM: "Stepping down" from next year.

[Thomas Adam]

Hello all,

This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be
stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose
one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active
developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder
where I've gone.

I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project.  As such, I will
still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about
all.  I will not be working on any major features.

My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even
if that's stub code.  Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git
conversion still, which I am pleased about.

These will be done by early next year.  As soon as that happens, I shall
release FVWM 2.6.4 -- after that, well, that's someone else's problem.  :)

Thanks all.  It's been fun.  :)

-- Thomas Adam

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Re: FVWM: "Stepping down" from next year.

[Kathryn Andersen]

On Mon, Nov 07, 2011 at 07:43:18PM +, Thomas Adam wrote:
> I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project.  As such, I will
> still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about
> all.  I will not be working on any major features.

Thank you Thomas, for all your hard and thorough work.
We'll miss you.
 
> My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even
> if that's stub code.  Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git
> conversion still, which I am pleased about.

Hooray for Git! Let's hope that makes it easier for more people to
contribute.
 
K.A.
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Re: FVWM: "Stepping down" from next year.

[despen]

Thomas Adam  writes:

> Hello all,
>
> This is a very quick note to let you all know that as of next year I will be
> stepping down as the maintainer of FVWM -- largely this role is a very loose
> one, but since I seem to be the most vocal and more visibally active
> developer here, I felt it wise to mention this just in case people wonder
> where I've gone.
>
> I do not have the time anymore to devote to this project.  As such, I will
> still be providing ad-hoc bug-fixes, and general advice, but that's about
> all.  I will not be working on any major features.
>
> My last batch of work on this will be to complete module deprecation, even
> if that's stub code.  Dominik Vogt and I are completing work on the Git
> conversion still, which I am pleased about.
>
> These will be done by early next year.  As soon as that happens, I shall
> release FVWM 2.6.4 -- after that, well, that's someone else's problem.  :)
>
> Thanks all.  It's been fun.  :)

This is a thankless job and you are far from the first person to feel
burnt out.  (I'm guessing.)

For my purposes, Fvwm was feature complete after the iconboxes, left
menus and window minimizing animation made their appearance.

I hope that we'll always have enough interested users to at least keep what's
currently working up to date.

Thanks for all your efforts.

-- 
Dan Espen

Re: FVWM: "Stepping down" from next year.

[Thomas Funk]

Von: des...@verizon.net
Gesendet: 07.11.2011 23:24:00

>Having a single maintainer is too much of a burden. I've always been
>surprised that anyone would take on that role.

Yes, that's probably true. I think Thomas is at the end of his power.
The permanent attacks against him the last time weren't very cooperative at all 
...

>If someone comes to this list with a great new idea and convinces the
>few of us that hang around that he's qualified he'll get commit
>privileges and Fvwm get new capabilities.

A great new idea ... there are many ideas but for these ideas we need people
who are willing to show them with config examples and accept constructive 
reviews.
We need also a good default config for new users to show what is possible with 
Fvwm.
We started months ago with them. I created a config based on that ideas but it 
must
be tested and need feedback from the community.

>It's pretty hard to work up any ambition when Fvwm already does
>everything a person wants. (It does for me.)

For me too, but we need more than comments what is bad and should change ...

>Hopefully we have the mechanisms in place for this project to carry
>on to serve that niche of users that want total control and don't need
>GUI's to write configuration files.

Thomas started with his wiki for that but it should extend to get a rich pool 
of information
around of Fvwm.

Thomas

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'console'?
A terminal is at the end of an electric wire, a shell is the home of a turtle, 
tty is a strange abbreviation and a console is a kind of cabinet. -- Gilles

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Re: FVWM: "Stepping down" from next year.

[John Latham]

> >Having a single maintainer is too much of a burden. I've always been
> >surprised that anyone would take on that role.
> 
> Yes, that's probably true. I think Thomas is at the end of his power.
> The permanent attacks against him the last time weren't very cooperative at
> all ...

Wait a moment: surely Thomas' decision isn't influenced by a few (one?), at
best, misguided individuals' attempts to, at best, help in a bad way?

Thomas: please reassure us this is the case?! 
(Or let us protect you from such trivial undermining so you can carry on!)

In fact, if we all call ``encore'' -- would you stay a little longer? ;-)