Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 05:32:11PM -0700, elliot s wrote:
> Well, i got the FvwmIconMan/FvwmButtons pair looking like my fvwmtaskbar.
> Two differences:
> fvwmtaskbar had a shared mail checker/date display.
> I dont know of an easy way to get both, so now it's just an xclock display.
> fvwmtaskbar colorset colors show up lighter than the same colorset in
> FvwmIconMan or elsewhere..

would you be able/willing to share the relevent section of your config file to 
show how you did it?

jamie



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 05:32:11PM -0700, elliot s wrote:
> Well, i got the FvwmIconMan/FvwmButtons pair looking like my fvwmtaskbar.
> Two differences:
> fvwmtaskbar had a shared mail checker/date display.

xclock is fine for this.  As for mail, use something like xbiff or xbuffy or
some other external tool.

> I dont know of an easy way to get both, so now it's just an xclock display.
> fvwmtaskbar colorset colors show up lighter than the same colorset in
> FvwmIconMan or elsewhere..

How have you defined them?

-- Thomas Adam



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Chris Siebenmann
| > Is there a complete list of deprecated(ing) or dead modules?
| > I don't want to play with a dead module, with issues
| > unsolvable.
| 
| Not as such, but in my mind:
[...]
| * FvwmWinList (it's FvwmIconMan with tweaks?)

 This might need some modifications to FvwmIconMan, because the last
time I tried to do this only one FIM instance at a time could manage a
given window. If not changed, that would mean that the FIM instance
used as a pop-up list of all windows would not include any windows
already managed by a persistent FIM instance.

- cks



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:20:27AM -0400, Chris Siebenmann wrote:
> | > Is there a complete list of deprecated(ing) or dead modules?
> | > I don't want to play with a dead module, with issues
> | > unsolvable.
> | 
> | Not as such, but in my mind:
> [...]
> | * FvwmWinList (it's FvwmIconMan with tweaks?)
> 
>  This might need some modifications to FvwmIconMan, because the last

Yes.  This is what "tweaks" refers to here.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread elliot s
< As for mail, use something like xbiff or xbuffy or some other external tool.

The nice thing fvwmtaskbar did was to share the button, so that it was
a mail icon when you had mail, and "xclock" otherwise.

> fvwmtaskbar colorset colors show up lighter than the same colorset in
 > FvwmIconMan or elsewhere..

I'm using the same colorsets for FvwmTaskbar and FvwmIconMan.
Maybe one module uses more of the colorset parameters than another.

Colorset 4 fg black, bg orange, fgsh black, sh black, hi orange
Colorset 5 fg black, bg #d8ffa0,fgsh black, sh tan  , hi tan
Colorset 6 fg black, bg #90,fgsh black, sh #90, hi #90

*FvwmIconMan: Colorset 5
*FvwmIconMan: FocusColorset 4
*FvwmIconMan: IconColorset 6

*FvwmTaskBar: Colorset 5
*FvwmTaskBar: IconColorset 6
*FvwmTaskBar: FocusColorset 4



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 10:51:38AM -0700, elliot s wrote:
> < As for mail, use something like xbiff or xbuffy or some other external tool.
> 
> The nice thing fvwmtaskbar did was to share the button, so that it was
> a mail icon when you had mail, and "xclock" otherwise.

Which you can do in FvwmButtons anyway.

> > fvwmtaskbar colorset colors show up lighter than the same colorset in
>  > FvwmIconMan or elsewhere..
> 
> I'm using the same colorsets for FvwmTaskbar and FvwmIconMan.
> Maybe one module uses more of the colorset parameters than another.

Nope.  This is not how programming works.

> Colorset 4 fg black, bg orange,   fgsh black, sh black, hi orange
> Colorset 5 fg black, bg #d8ffa0,  fgsh black, sh tan  , hi tan
> Colorset 6 fg black, bg #90,  fgsh black, sh #90, hi #90
> 
> *FvwmIconMan: Colorset 5
> *FvwmIconMan: FocusColorset 4
> *FvwmIconMan: IconColorset 6
> 
> *FvwmTaskBar: Colorset 5
> *FvwmTaskBar: IconColorset 6
> *FvwmTaskBar: FocusColorset 4

These look the same according to my tired eyes, and also what gcolor2 made
of them.  So I'll trust gcolor2.

-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread elliot s
> would you be able/willing to share the relevent section of your config file
> to show how you did it?

Here's what i have for my replacement taskbar.
I'm actually doing something else in the spot of xbiff, so i dont know
if it's right.

*FvwmIconMan: Action Mouse 1 N sendcommand Op_Raise_Iconify_Off
*FvwmIconMan: ButtonGeometry 642x25
*FvwmIconMan: Colorset 5
*FvwmIconMan: DrawIcons always
*FvwmIconMan: FocusColorset 4
*FvwmIconMan: IconColorset 6
*FvwmIconMan: Format "%i"
*FvwmIconMan: ManagerGeometry 1x2
*FvwmIconMan: ReliefThickness 1

*FvwmButtons: Colorset 5
*FvwmButtons: Frame 0
*FvwmButtons: Geometry 642x50+154-0
*FvwmButtons: Padding 0 0
 *FvwmButtons: (1x1,  Swallow "xbiff" 'Exec xbiff' Action(Mouse 1)
'Exec from | xmessage -file -' )
*FvwmButtons: (1x1, Swallow "xclock" 'Exec xclock -digital -strftime
%d -face lucidasans-8')
*FvwmButtons: (15x2-0-0, right, Swallow FvwmIconMan "Module FvwmIconMan")



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread Thomas Adam
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 11:01:56AM -0700, elliot s wrote:
>  *FvwmButtons: (1x1,  Swallow "xbiff" 'Exec xbiff' Action(Mouse 1)
   add a comma here.
-- Thomas Adam

-- 
"Deep in my heart I wish I was wrong.  But deep in my heart I know I am
not." -- Morrissey ("Girl Least Likely To" -- off of Viva Hate.)



Re: FVWM: Task Bar Disappearing

2011-05-16 Thread elliot s
My FvwmIconMan buttons for iconified windows are always flat, whether
I set IconButton or not.  My non-iconified window buttons react to the
settings just fine.
I'm running 2.7.0.



FVWM: ButtonPress, ButtonRelease propagation

2011-05-16 Thread Lorinc Hever
Hello,

I have question about ButtonPress, ButtonRelease release propagation.

FVWM version 2.5.1

We have a mouse and a trackball attached to our system. We have
applications interested in processing the trackball event in a special
way so it's interested in the ButtonPress and ButtonRelease events.

We found that in add_window.c fvwm unconditionally turns of the event
propagation of these events

attributes.do_not_propagate_mask = ButtonPressMask | ButtonReleaseMask;
XChangeWindowAttributes(dpy, FW_W(fw), valuemask, &attributes);

Could you help us what's the reason behind it? And what consequences
it might have if we remove this limitation?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best regards,
Lorinc