[Freesurfer] regenerating surfs after pial edits

2012-01-16 Thread Tobia, Michael
Dear Freesurfer Experts,

I am trying to create surfaces that can be used in afni/SUMA for cortical based 
inter-subject alignment.  For most of my subjects your programs have worked 
perfectly.  But I am having a problem for two subjects with dura residual from 
the skull stripping that is disotrting the pial surface and produces long 
protruding 'handles' stemming from the cortial surface once generated in SUMA.  
I have made edits to the offending voxels in the brainmask.mgz using tkmedit 
according to the tutorial, and subsequently re-run recon-all -autorecon2-pial 
-autorecon3 -subjid subj05, but the surfaces still appear as they were prior to 
the edits.  I looked at the brain.finalsurfs and noticed that the red and 
yellow lines demarcating WM and pial surfaces where I had deleted offending 
voxels remain despite re-running recon-all, as if new surfaces had not been 
generated.  Can you tell me what I am doing wrong? Is it possible to edit the 
offending surface markers themselves?  Any help and advice woudl be greatly 
appreciated.


~michael

Systems Neuroscience, NIN
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[Freesurfer] Converting mgz to nii.gz

2012-01-16 Thread Antonella Kis
Dear all,

I am trying to convert my DTI image which was previous resampled to CVS space 
from an .mgz format to a .nii.gz format. When I resampled to CVS space I used 
the nearest interpolation.

I used for converting this .mgz image to .nii.gz the mri_convert as you can see 
below:

mri_convert --in_type mgz --out_type nii --out_orientation RAS 
/media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.mgz
 \
/media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.nii.gz

I understood that --out orientation RAS states that I am flipping the image. Do 
I need to use this option? Even if I am using or not I see my image is having 
different direction than the .mgz image. Also while running with the option 
--out orientation RAS I saw that the program is doing a triliniar interp and I 
don't want to resample anymore my iamge just to converte this from mgz to nii. 


What is the best way I should do it?

Thank you.
Antonella
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Re: [Freesurfer] problem applying morph with mri_vol2vol

2012-01-16 Thread Lilla Zollei


Hi Greg,

Have you tried to just apply the bbreg transformation to your tract to 
double check whether that registration is accurate?


Lilla

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012, Gregory Kirk wrote:


Hi

i am trying to transform/morph a tract created with tracula into my cvs 
template subject space, using v.5.0
i am thinking the bb register transformation i am using is not the correct one, 
but it seems the logical choice,
but obviously not working good as forceps minor ends up wraped around the brain 
stem.

here is what i run

mri_vol2vol --targ  
/study5/aa-scratch/TEENEMO/freesurfer_subjects/033/mri/norm.mgz --m3z 
combined_to033_elreg_afteraseg-norm.m3z --noDefM3zPath --fsl 
/study5/aa-scratch/TEENEMO/freesurfer_local/toot/006//dmri/xfms/diff2anat.bbr.mat
 --mov 
/study5/aa-scratch/TEENEMO/freesurfer_local/toot/006/dpath/fminor_PP_avg33_mni_bbr/path.pd.nii.gz
 --out ./to033path.pd.nii.gz --interp trilin --no-save-reg

thanks

greg

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Re: [Freesurfer] Converting mgz to nii.gz

2012-01-16 Thread Lilla Zollei

Hi Antonella,

You should be able to just do

mri_convert 
/media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.mgz
 
/media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.nii.gz

BTW, when resampling your FA data to CVS space, I think you should be 
using trilinear interpolation. We only suggest the nearest neigbour option 
for segmentation and parcellation files.

--Lilla

On Mon, 16 Jan 2012, Antonella Kis wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I am trying to convert my DTI image which was previous resampled to CVS space 
> from an .mgz format to a .nii.gz format. When I resampled to CVS space I used 
> the nearest interpolation.
> 
> I used for converting this .mgz image to .nii.gz the mri_convert as you can 
> see below:
> 
> mri_convert --in_type mgz --out_type nii --out_orientation RAS 
> /media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.mgz
>  \
> /media/2Tra/Antonella_2011/DTI_FS/dtrecon_cvs/C01_cvs/C01_dti/fa-masked.ANAT+CVS-to-avg35.nii.gz
> 
> I understood that --out orientation RAS states that I am flipping the image. 
> Do I need to use this option? Even if I am using or not I see my image is 
> having different direction than the .mgz image. Also while running with the 
> option --out orientation RAS I saw that
> the program is doing a triliniar interp and I don't want to resample anymore 
> my iamge just to converte this from mgz to nii.
> 
> What is the best way I should do it?
> 
> Thank you.
> Antonella
> 
>
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[Freesurfer] control points

2012-01-16 Thread Alana Shepherd
Hello,
I am running version 5.0, and am finding in a few cases that some areas (most 
commonly STG) are missing from the original brainmask - after adding control 
points and re-running the pipeline, these regions are still not being picked up 
in the surfs or in the aseg.
Can you suggest any other way of remedying this?
Many thanks
Alana Shepherd
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Re: [Freesurfer] control points

2012-01-16 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hi Alana

Have you tried changing the skull strip parameters?

Cheers
Bruce



On Jan 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Alana Shepherd  wrote:

> Hello,
> I am running version 5.0, and am finding in a few cases that some areas (most 
> commonly STG) are missing from the original brainmask - after adding control 
> points and re-running the pipeline, these regions are still not being picked 
> up in the surfs or in the aseg.
> Can you suggest any other way of remedying this?
> Many thanks
> Alana Shepherd
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Re: [Freesurfer] control points

2012-01-16 Thread Bruce Fischl
Hmmm. If you upload the subject we will take a look
Bruce



On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Alana Shepherd  wrote:

> On the brainmask the intensity within the STG wm is either slightly lower 
> than 110 or slightly higher, though at the exact location of the control 
> points it is 110. Similarly on the wm.mgz the intensities range around 110.  
> I am not sure what the intensity was at these points before the cp's were 
> added and reprocessed.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 17/01/2012, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
> 
>> Can you cc the list so others can answer? Is the wm in the brain.mgz in 
>> those regions darker than 110? Does putting control points there increase 
>> the intensity? It looks like a topological defect, but control points should 
>> help
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Alana Shepherd  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Bruce,
>>> Thanks for your fast reply. Sorry - I realise I may have been unclear in my 
>>> explanation. The sections are not missing from the brainmask mgz file - as 
>>> if they had been cut out during skull stripping - they are actually missing 
>>> from the surfs and aseg definitions (see attached screen shot). 
>>> Regarding skull stripping - I have been changing the skull strip parameters 
>>> on an 'as-need' basis - so some of the subjects have a lowered ws thresh, 
>>> others I have needed to use gcut to remove excess dura, and some have been 
>>> fine with the default ws thresh. 
>>> I hope this clarifies the issue,
>>> Cheers
>>> Alana
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 17/01/2012, at 1:17 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Alana
 
 Have you tried changing the skull strip parameters?
 
 Cheers
 Bruce
 
 
 
 On Jan 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Alana Shepherd  
 wrote:
 
> Hello,
> I am running version 5.0, and am finding in a few cases that some areas 
> (most commonly STG) are missing from the original brainmask - after 
> adding control points and re-running the pipeline, these regions are 
> still not being picked up in the surfs or in the aseg.
> Can you suggest any other way of remedying this?
> Many thanks
> Alana Shepherd
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[Freesurfer] Newbie question: mean/stddev for volumes and thicknesses in an atlas

2012-01-16 Thread Inati, Souheil (NIH/NIMH) [E]
Hi All,

I have a very small set of patients and I would like to compare the volumes of 
subcortical structures and thickness across the cortex to those of a large 
normative set.  I don't need all the underlying data, just means and standard 
deviations.  Is such a set of measures available?

Thanks,
Souheil
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Re: [Freesurfer] control points

2012-01-16 Thread Alana Shepherd
Great, thanks. Do you need the brainmask plus surf ?h orig and/or aparc/aseg?

Alana


On 17/01/2012, at 2:09 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:

> Hmmm. If you upload the subject we will take a look
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:53 PM, Alana Shepherd  
> wrote:
> 
>> On the brainmask the intensity within the STG wm is either slightly lower 
>> than 110 or slightly higher, though at the exact location of the control 
>> points it is 110. Similarly on the wm.mgz the intensities range around 110.  
>> I am not sure what the intensity was at these points before the cp's were 
>> added and reprocessed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 17/01/2012, at 1:36 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you cc the list so others can answer? Is the wm in the brain.mgz in 
>>> those regions darker than 110? Does putting control points there increase 
>>> the intensity? It looks like a topological defect, but control points 
>>> should help
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2012, at 9:34 PM, Alana Shepherd  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Bruce,
 Thanks for your fast reply. Sorry - I realise I may have been unclear in 
 my explanation. The sections are not missing from the brainmask mgz file - 
 as if they had been cut out during skull stripping - they are actually 
 missing from the surfs and aseg definitions (see attached screen shot). 
 Regarding skull stripping - I have been changing the skull strip 
 parameters on an 'as-need' basis - so some of the subjects have a lowered 
 ws thresh, others I have needed to use gcut to remove excess dura, and 
 some have been fine with the default ws thresh. 
 I hope this clarifies the issue,
 Cheers
 Alana
 
 
 
 
 
 On 17/01/2012, at 1:17 PM, Bruce Fischl wrote:
 
> Hi Alana
> 
> Have you tried changing the skull strip parameters?
> 
> Cheers
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 16, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Alana Shepherd  
> wrote:
> 
>> Hello,
>> I am running version 5.0, and am finding in a few cases that some areas 
>> (most commonly STG) are missing from the original brainmask - after 
>> adding control points and re-running the pipeline, these regions are 
>> still not being picked up in the surfs or in the aseg.
>> Can you suggest any other way of remedying this?
>> Many thanks
>> Alana Shepherd
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 75, Issue 15

2012-01-16 Thread Thomas Yeo
Hi, was this problem ever resolved?

I am seeing the same issue on my mac desktop.

Thanks,
Thomas

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Fred Dick  wrote:

> Hi Sebastian and Bruce
>
> thanks for the Sunday afternoon assists.  Unfortunately, not a VNC problem
> (am running it directly in X11, Xquartz 2.3.5), and yup, did check the
> color prefs in X11 - even commanding millions of colors didn't work.
>
> Sounds like maybe it's not a very common problem though, so more likely
> I've done something weird to my X11 setup.
>
> cheers,
> Fred
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9 May 2010, at 20:38, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > yu probably checked the following already, but on the off chance you
> have not... Maybe you have set X11 to 256 color mode? Start X11.app (from
> /Applications/Utilities) go to the X11 menu, select Preferences..., switch
> to the tab called output and see what is selected for Colors. If it is set
> to 256 Colors you have your root cause, just switch to something higher and
> all should be fine.
> >
> > best
> >   Sebastian
> >
> > On May 9, 2010, at 9:00 AM, freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:
> >
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> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:34:35 +0100
> >> From: Fred Dick 
> >> Subject: [Freesurfer] tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6?
> >> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
> >> Message-ID: <873b33f2-3339-4871-9395-1efeec1ef...@crl.ucsd.edu>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >> Dear all
> >>
> >> This is a pretty minor issue (except for figure making) - but has
> anyone experienced and then fixed a display problem in tksurfer/tkmedit in
> OSX 10.6 (possibly also 10.5) where graphics seem to be drawn only with 256
> colors, thereby giving images a kind of contour-plot look? (See attached
> image below).  [Running 10.6.3, i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1, tksurfer
>  1.309 (yes, older), tkmedit v 1.330]
> >>
> >> I looked around the mail archives but didn't see anyone else commenting
> on this, but do know someone else having the same issue, so would be happy
> for any suggestions.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Fred
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Freesurfer] Freesurfer Digest, Vol 75, Issue 15

2012-01-16 Thread Thomas Yeo
Attaching what I am seeing...

On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Thomas Yeo  wrote:

> Hi, was this problem ever resolved?
>
> I am seeing the same issue on my mac desktop.
>
> Thanks,
> Thomas
>
>
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Fred Dick  wrote:
>
>> Hi Sebastian and Bruce
>>
>> thanks for the Sunday afternoon assists.  Unfortunately, not a VNC
>> problem (am running it directly in X11, Xquartz 2.3.5), and yup, did check
>> the color prefs in X11 - even commanding millions of colors didn't work.
>>
>> Sounds like maybe it's not a very common problem though, so more likely
>> I've done something weird to my X11 setup.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 May 2010, at 20:38, Sebastian Moeller wrote:
>>
>> > Hi Fred,
>> >
>> > yu probably checked the following already, but on the off chance you
>> have not... Maybe you have set X11 to 256 color mode? Start X11.app (from
>> /Applications/Utilities) go to the X11 menu, select Preferences..., switch
>> to the tab called output and see what is selected for Colors. If it is set
>> to 256 Colors you have your root cause, just switch to something higher and
>> all should be fine.
>> >
>> > best
>> >   Sebastian
>> >
>> > On May 9, 2010, at 9:00 AM, freesurfer-requ...@nmr.mgh.harvard.eduwrote:
>> >
>> >> Send Freesurfer mailing list submissions to
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>> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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>> >>
>> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>> >>
>> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> >> than "Re: Contents of Freesurfer digest..."
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Today's Topics:
>> >>
>> >>  1. tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6? (Fred Dick)
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:34:35 +0100
>> >> From: Fred Dick 
>> >> Subject: [Freesurfer] tksurfer/tkmedit display color fix in OSX 10.6?
>> >> To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> >> Message-ID: <873b33f2-3339-4871-9395-1efeec1ef...@crl.ucsd.edu>
>> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> >>
>> >> Dear all
>> >>
>> >> This is a pretty minor issue (except for figure making) - but has
>> anyone experienced and then fixed a display problem in tksurfer/tkmedit in
>> OSX 10.6 (possibly also 10.5) where graphics seem to be drawn only with 256
>> colors, thereby giving images a kind of contour-plot look? (See attached
>> image below).  [Running 10.6.3, i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1, tksurfer
>>  1.309 (yes, older), tkmedit v 1.330]
>> >>
>> >> I looked around the mail archives but didn't see anyone else
>> commenting on this, but do know someone else having the same issue, so
>> would be happy for any suggestions.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Fred
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