[Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

2007-02-02 Thread Binyam Nardos
Hi all,
I just loaded raw structural scans into one of my subject directories. They are 
of siemens IMA format and I used the following command:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/ 001.mgz

I then got the following error:
reading from 001/...
ERROR: could not parse 001/
ERROR: siemensRead(): 001/

I tried finding similar problems in the threads but nothing yet. 

Appreciate any help,
Binyam


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Re: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
specify one slice in the series and it will find the rest (not the 
directory)

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Binyam Nardos wrote:


Hi all,
I just loaded raw structural scans into one of my subject directories. They are 
of siemens IMA format and I used the following command:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/ 001.mgz

I then got the following error:
reading from 001/...
ERROR: could not parse 001/
ERROR: siemensRead(): 001/

I tried finding similar problems in the threads but nothing yet.

Appreciate any help,
Binyam


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Washington University School of Medicine Box # 8505
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St. Louis, MO 63108
Office: (314) 454-7795
Fax: (314) 286-1601



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Re: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

2007-02-02 Thread Jenni Pacheco

Hi Binyam,

I think you need to give it the IMA file name, so something like:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/file.IMA 001.mgz

If that doesn't work there are other options we can try.
Jenni

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Binyam Nardos wrote:


Hi all,
I just loaded raw structural scans into one of my subject directories. They are 
of siemens IMA format and I used the following command:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/ 001.mgz

I then got the following error:
reading from 001/...
ERROR: could not parse 001/
ERROR: siemensRead(): 001/

I tried finding similar problems in the threads but nothing yet.

Appreciate any help,
Binyam


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Cognitive Rehabilitation Research Group
Washington University School of Medicine Box # 8505
 Forest Park Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63108
Office: (314) 454-7795
Fax: (314) 286-1601



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RE: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

2007-02-02 Thread Binyam Nardos
thanks Jenni .. I had to change my input file format to siemens_dicom although 
they were IMAs. It seems to be working now.
Binyam

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From: Jenni Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Binyam Nardos
Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz
 
Hi Binyam,

I think you need to give it the IMA file name, so something like:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/file.IMA 001.mgz

If that doesn't work there are other options we can try.
Jenni

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Binyam Nardos wrote:

> Hi all,
> I just loaded raw structural scans into one of my subject directories. They 
> are of siemens IMA format and I used the following command:
> mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/ 001.mgz
>
> I then got the following error:
> reading from 001/...
> ERROR: could not parse 001/
> ERROR: siemensRead(): 001/
>
> I tried finding similar problems in the threads but nothing yet.
>
> Appreciate any help,
> Binyam
>
>
> Binyam Nardos
> Cognitive Rehabilitation Research Group
> Washington University School of Medicine Box # 8505
>  Forest Park Blvd
> St. Louis, MO 63108
> Office: (314) 454-7795
> Fax: (314) 286-1601
>
>
>
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[Freesurfer] Variability and randomness in algorithms

2007-02-02 Thread Bo Shi

Hi,

Sorry to dredge up an old thread, I was curious about the details on 
where randomness is introduced in the following programs (beyond the 
normal floating points issues):


> mris_smooth -seed 1234
> mris_sphere -seed 1234
> mris_fix_topology -seed 1234
> mris_ca_label -seed 1234

I assume that the Segonne, Grimson, and Fischl paper on the genetic 
algorithm for cortical surface correction applies to mris_fix_topology? 
 Is it also the case that the randomness is injected in other 
min/maximization-type algorithms in the other functions?



> RE: [Freesurfer] variability
> Nick Schmansky
> Thu, 21 Dec 2006 10:14:12 -0800
>
> Valentina,
>
> The randomization in the algorithms accounts for about a 0.02% change
> in thickness results.  You can disable randomness (or rather, force
> seeding the rng with same number) by including the flag -norandomness
> with recon-all.  This flag is available in v3.0.4.
>
> In older versions, do this to disable randomness: create a file called
> xopts containing this text:
>
> mris_smooth -seed 1234
> mris_sphere -seed 1234
> mris_fix_topology -seed 1234
> mris_ca_label -seed 1234


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RE: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

2007-02-02 Thread Doug Greve


Yea, some siemens scanners/dicom servers produce dicom files with IMA
extensions, which fools our software into thinking it is the old ima
format.

doug




On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Binyam Nardos wrote:


thanks Jenni .. I had to change my input file format to siemens_dicom although 
they were IMAs. It seems to be working now.
Binyam

Binyam Nardos
Cognitive Rehabilitation Research Group
Washington University School of Medicine Box # 8505
 Forest Park Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63108
Office: (314) 454-7795
Fax: (314) 286-1601



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From: Jenni Pacheco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 2/2/2007 10:40 AM
To: Binyam Nardos
Cc: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] converting from siemens IMA to mgz

Hi Binyam,

I think you need to give it the IMA file name, so something like:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/file.IMA 001.mgz

If that doesn't work there are other options we can try.
Jenni

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Binyam Nardos wrote:


Hi all,
I just loaded raw structural scans into one of my subject directories. They are 
of siemens IMA format and I used the following command:
mri_convert -it siemens -ot mgz 001/ 001.mgz

I then got the following error:
reading from 001/...
ERROR: could not parse 001/
ERROR: siemensRead(): 001/

I tried finding similar problems in the threads but nothing yet.

Appreciate any help,
Binyam


Binyam Nardos
Cognitive Rehabilitation Research Group
Washington University School of Medicine Box # 8505
 Forest Park Blvd
St. Louis, MO 63108
Office: (314) 454-7795
Fax: (314) 286-1601



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[Freesurfer] transforms

2007-02-02 Thread Chacko Cherian
Hello all,
Is there some information on the wiki about the
srctoDst voxel-to-voxel transform and the rastoRAas
transform?

THAnks 
Chacko.



 

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Re: [Freesurfer] transforms

2007-02-02 Thread Nick Schmansky
Chacko,

There is this page:

  http://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/CoordinateSystems

and there, open Doug Greve's PowerPoint file, which describes the
transforms used within Freesurfer.

N.

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> Is there some information on the wiki about the
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> 
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[Freesurfer] timecourse overlay

2007-02-02 Thread T. Song

Hi Bruce:

Is there a way that I can load the MEG timecourse data on the freesurfer 
surface? Is it possible that we could get the timecourse waveform for a 
specific point on the surface?

Thanks!

Tao


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[Freesurfer] Re: timecourse overlay

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
sure, if you save it in the right format. The easiest thing to do would 
be to save it as a volume, where the 1st spatial dimension is # of 
vertices on the surface, and the last (4th one) is the # of time points 
(the 2nd and 3rd would both be 1). Or there are other formats you can save 
in if you like, include our "w-file" format. I've attached a matlab file 
for writing it.


cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, T. Song wrote:


Hi Bruce:

Is there a way that I can load the MEG timecourse data on the freesurfer 
surface? Is it possible that we could get the timecourse waveform for a 
specific point on the surface?

Thanks!

Tao



function err = write_wfile(fname, w, v)
% err = write_wfile(fname, w, )
% 
% writes a vector into a binary 'w' file
%  fname - name of file to write to
%  w - vector of values to be written
%  v - 0-based vertex numbers 
%  (assumes 0 to N-1 if not present or empty).
%
% See also read_wfile.
%


%
% write_wfile.m
%
% Original Author: Doug Greve
% CVS Revision Info:
%$Author: nicks $
%$Date: 2007/01/10 22:55:10 $
%$Revision: 1.2 $
%
% Copyright (C) 2002-2007,
% The General Hospital Corporation (Boston, MA). 
% All rights reserved.
%
% Distribution, usage and copying of this software is covered under the
% terms found in the License Agreement file named 'COPYING' found in the
% FreeSurfer source code root directory, and duplicated here:
% https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FreeSurferOpenSourceLicense
%
% General inquiries: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
% Bug reports: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
%


err = 1;

if(nargin ~= 2 & nargin ~= 3)
  fprintf('USAGE: err = write_wfile(fname, w, ) \n');
  return;
end

vnum = length(w) ;

% Handle when v not given or is empty %
if(exist('v') ~= 1) v = []; end
if(isempty(v)) v = [0:vnum-1]; end

% open it as a big-endian file
fid = fopen(fname, 'wb', 'b') ;
if(fid == -1)
  fprintf('ERROR: could not open %s\n',fname);
  return;
end

fwrite(fid, 0, 'int16') ;
fwrite3(fid, vnum) ;
for i=1:vnum
  fwrite3(fid, v(i)) ;  % vertex number (0-based)
  fwrite(fid,  w(i), 'float') ; % vertex value
end

fclose(fid) ;

err = 0;

return
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Re: [Freesurfer] timecourse overlay

2007-02-02 Thread Doug Greve


If the time course is in the proper format, then you can. It needs to
be in one of the "volume" formats, eg mgh or mgh. The number of cols
should equal the number of vertices, the number of rows = # of slices
= 1, and the 4th dim is time.

Then run

tksurfer subject hemi surf -timecourse yourfile.mgh

doug



On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, T. Song wrote:


Hi Bruce:

Is there a way that I can load the MEG timecourse data on the freesurfer 
surface? Is it possible that we could get the timecourse waveform for a 
specific point on the surface?

Thanks!

Tao


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Re: [Freesurfer] Re: timecourse overlay

2007-02-02 Thread Doug Greve


Actually, I think the w file only holds one time point, so that prob
wont work. If you want to go the matlab route, you can do something
like:

mri_convert lh.curv lh.curv.mgh # convert to mgh for a template

then in matalb

f = MRIread('lh.curv.mgh');

f will be a struct 
f.vol will be a 4d matrix of size 1 x nverices x 1 x 1

Just change f.vol to your data (packing the time dim appropriately),
then
MRIwrite(f,'yourdata.mgh');




On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Bruce Fischl wrote:

sure, if you save it in the right format. The easiest thing to do would be to 
save it as a volume, where the 1st spatial dimension is # of vertices on the 
surface, and the last (4th one) is the # of time points (the 2nd and 3rd 
would both be 1). Or there are other formats you can save in if you like, 
include our "w-file" format. I've attached a matlab file for writing it.


cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, T. Song wrote:


Hi Bruce:

Is there a way that I can load the MEG timecourse data on the freesurfer 
surface? Is it possible that we could get the timecourse waveform for a 
specific point on the surface?

Thanks!

Tao







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Re: [Freesurfer] Re: timecourse overlay

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
oops, you're right. Anders wrote another format for multiple time points, 
but I can't seem to find it. The volume is the best way to go these 
days though.


Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Doug Greve 
wrote:




Actually, I think the w file only holds one time point, so that prob
wont work. If you want to go the matlab route, you can do something
like:

mri_convert lh.curv lh.curv.mgh # convert to mgh for a template

then in matalb

f = MRIread('lh.curv.mgh');

f will be a struct f.vol will be a 4d matrix of size 1 x nverices x 1 x 1
Just change f.vol to your data (packing the time dim appropriately),
then
MRIwrite(f,'yourdata.mgh');




On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Bruce Fischl wrote:

sure, if you save it in the right format. The easiest thing to do would be 
to save it as a volume, where the 1st spatial dimension is # of vertices on 
the surface, and the last (4th one) is the # of time points (the 2nd and 
3rd would both be 1). Or there are other formats you can save in if you 
like, include our "w-file" format. I've attached a matlab file for writing 
it.


cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, T. Song wrote:


Hi Bruce:

Is there a way that I can load the MEG timecourse data on the freesurfer 
surface? Is it possible that we could get the timecourse waveform for a 
specific point on the surface?

Thanks!

Tao









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[Freesurfer] total brain volume

2007-02-02 Thread Derin Cobia
I would like to calculate total brain volume (defined as: total white,
gray, and subcortical altogether).  Should I take the BrainSegVol and
minus out cerebellum and ventricles, or add the white and gray matter
volumes from mris_anatomical_stats (it seems I remember hearing that white
matter from mris_anatomical_stats is not reliable)?  Thanks.

-Derin


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Re: [Freesurfer] total brain volume

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl

Hi Derin,

the aseg labeling of cortical gm is not that accurate - the surfaces are 
quiet a bit more so. We have a new tool for generating the estimate of the 
gm and wm volume from the surfaces called mris_volume and mris_wm_volume. I 
think Doug or Nick has integrated it into the dev version of recon-all.


cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin Cobia wrote:


I would like to calculate total brain volume (defined as: total white,
gray, and subcortical altogether).  Should I take the BrainSegVol and
minus out cerebellum and ventricles, or add the white and gray matter
volumes from mris_anatomical_stats (it seems I remember hearing that white
matter from mris_anatomical_stats is not reliable)?  Thanks.

-Derin


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Re: [Freesurfer] total brain volume

2007-02-02 Thread Derin Cobia
Bruce,

So if I downloaded the dev version of the program I could use it to get
the volumes from subjects processed with 3.0.3?  And would adding these
volumes together generate the total volume I'm looking for (including
subcoritical)?  Thanks!

-Derin

> Hi Derin,
>
> the aseg labeling of cortical gm is not that accurate - the surfaces are
> quiet a bit more so. We have a new tool for generating the estimate of the
> gm and wm volume from the surfaces called mris_volume and mris_wm_volume.
> I
> think Doug or Nick has integrated it into the dev version of recon-all.
>
> cheers,
> Bruce
>
>
> On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin Cobia wrote:
>
>> I would like to calculate total brain volume (defined as: total white,
>> gray, and subcortical altogether).  Should I take the BrainSegVol and
>> minus out cerebellum and ventricles, or add the white and gray matter
>> volumes from mris_anatomical_stats (it seems I remember hearing that
>> white
>> matter from mris_anatomical_stats is not reliable)?  Thanks.
>>
>> -Derin
>>
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Re: [Freesurfer] total brain volume

2007-02-02 Thread Bruce Fischl
you would need to add in whatever subcortical components you wanted to 
include, as they are excluded from the wm volume
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin 
Cobia wrote:



Bruce,

So if I downloaded the dev version of the program I could use it to get
the volumes from subjects processed with 3.0.3?  And would adding these
volumes together generate the total volume I'm looking for (including
subcoritical)?  Thanks!

-Derin


Hi Derin,

the aseg labeling of cortical gm is not that accurate - the surfaces are
quiet a bit more so. We have a new tool for generating the estimate of the
gm and wm volume from the surfaces called mris_volume and mris_wm_volume.
I
think Doug or Nick has integrated it into the dev version of recon-all.

cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin Cobia wrote:


I would like to calculate total brain volume (defined as: total white,
gray, and subcortical altogether).  Should I take the BrainSegVol and
minus out cerebellum and ventricles, or add the white and gray matter
volumes from mris_anatomical_stats (it seems I remember hearing that
white
matter from mris_anatomical_stats is not reliable)?  Thanks.

-Derin


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Re: [Freesurfer] total brain volume

2007-02-02 Thread Doug Greve


I have not implemented it in recon-all yet.

doug




On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Bruce Fischl wrote:

you would need to add in whatever subcortical components you wanted to 
include, as they are excluded from the wm volume

On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin Cobia wrote:


Bruce,

So if I downloaded the dev version of the program I could use it to get
the volumes from subjects processed with 3.0.3?  And would adding these
volumes together generate the total volume I'm looking for (including
subcoritical)?  Thanks!

-Derin


Hi Derin,

the aseg labeling of cortical gm is not that accurate - the surfaces are
quiet a bit more so. We have a new tool for generating the estimate of the
gm and wm volume from the surfaces called mris_volume and mris_wm_volume.
I
think Doug or Nick has integrated it into the dev version of recon-all.

cheers,
Bruce


On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Derin Cobia wrote:


I would like to calculate total brain volume (defined as: total white,
gray, and subcortical altogether).  Should I take the BrainSegVol and
minus out cerebellum and ventricles, or add the white and gray matter
volumes from mris_anatomical_stats (it seems I remember hearing that
white
matter from mris_anatomical_stats is not reliable)?  Thanks.

-Derin


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[Freesurfer] input registration matrix

2007-02-02 Thread Chacko Cherian
Hello All,

After making changes using tkregister2 the input
registration matrix changes.IS there an 'optimum'
input registration matrix that i should try to get.I
notice that the closer the values(last column of the
input reg matrix) are to zero the better the outcome.

Thanks in advance.

Chacko.



 

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[Freesurfer] some questions about volumes of aseg, .aparc, .aparc.2005s

2007-02-02 Thread Woo Suk, Tae

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Dear Freesurfer experts.
 
I have some questions about calculated volumes by freesurfer.
 
1. Are the volumes in aseg, .aparc, .aparc.2005s absolute volumes measured in 
naive space
or volumes measured after spatial normalization.
2. How much accurate the volumes (hippocampus, amygdala, thalamus, insula, 
precentral, etc)
in  aseg, .aparc, .aparc.2005s. And they are verified? 
3. Are the volumes in lh(or rh).aparc gray matter volumes?
4. What is meaning G_*, and S_* in lh(or rh).aparc.a2005s?
5. How can I separately see the strucures of .aparc, .aparc.2005s  in pial 
surface rendering? 
 
 
Woo Suk, Tae  Ph.D
Seoul, Korea

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