Re: [Freedos-user] Com1: corruption from PS2 mouse
On Sat, 22 Nov 2014 07:33:47 -0500, Tom Ehlert wrote: > >> FreeBasic doesn't support FIFO, and most likely no IRQ. > >> try > >> Open Com "COM1:600,n,8,1,cs0,ds0,cd0,rs" For Random As #CP > >> and see if that changes your problem. > > sorry, not true. > FreeBasic seems to use IRQ, but not FIFO. > > anyway, try > Open Com "COM1:600,n,8,1,cs0,ds0,cd0,rs" For Random As #CP > > Tom > I have done a bit with serial ports in FreeBASIC on Windows. I had an issue with dropping bytes when reading one character at a time. Reading a string with the length according to LOC() function seemed to solve the problem. This is what my routine looks like: ff1=freefile open com "COM3:230400,n,8,1,cs0,cd0,ds0,rs" as #ff1 a102: sleep 20 while loc(ff1)>0 k=input$(loc(ff1),ff1) print k; wend goto a102 There is an argument that can be passed in the Open Com statement to specify a buffer size. Is it supported in DOS? Maybe I will have to whip out FB DOS compiler and experiment. BTW, I'm not sure why you are adding For Random, or what that would even mean in this context. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Com1: corruption from PS2 mouse
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 00:55:42 -0500, TJ Edmister wrote: > > There is an argument that can be passed in the Open Com statement to > specify a buffer size. Is it supported in DOS? Maybe I will have to whip > out FB DOS compiler and experiment. BTW, I'm not sure why you are adding > For Random, or what that would even mean in this context. > OK did some experimenting... Compiled and ran the program on my NEC Versa V/50 (compiling is a bit slow on a 486, hmmm...) and sent text files over the serial port from my other laptop. First I tried 19200bps, no problem. Then I tried 115200bps and there was some byte droppage. Then I specified a receive buffer: open com "COM1:115200,n,8,1,cs0,cd0,ds0,rs,rb16384" as #ff1 this yielded no bytes missing at first, later in the file after the screen had been scrolling there was some droppage (presumably the buffer was full?) FreeBASIC's text output (PRINT statement) is fairly slow it seems. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] For what architectures is FreeDOS designed?
On Sun, 23 Nov 2014 15:16:19 -0500, Dennis Holierhoek wrote: > But can it also run 8-bit programs? And 4-bit? > In theory, you could run 8-bit object code if you had an NEC V20 or V30 CPU which is 8086 compatible while also featuring an 8080 emulation mode. NEC also made a special version of their V50 CPU just for the PC-88VA which can execute Z80 code as well. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=157005751&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 21:13:59 -0500, Dale E Sterner wrote: > I can think of only 2 ways an engineer can get those speeds out of a > serial device. > A very fast clock or big external buffers. I think DOS could handle a > fast clock It is a very fast clock, 1.5 GHz and beyond. It uses differential signaling (two wires to transmit one bit) which is less vulnerable to noise. The IDE interface could not run at such a high frequency because it uses 5V TTL signaling, like an old motherboard bus (or parallel printer port). Except where a motherboard has multiple layers with a ground plane and whatnot to control noise, a ribbon cable doesn't. The 80-conductor ribbon cables have extra ground wires to improve signal integrity and allowed the speed to increase from 16.6MHz (ATA 33) to 66MHz (ATA 133). The original speed for the IDE interface was 1.66MHz (PIO 0). Hypothetically, they could have used high-speed differential signaling AND a connector with multiple bits in parallel for even more speed. This is basically what a PCI-express graphics slot is. > but if they use buffers; DOS may not know how to use them like windows or > Linux. > I never used SATA so I can't say. You would be in good position to know. > As far as formating an SD chip; sometimes the format gets corrupted and > you need > to redo it. DOS just doesn't do well on the big stuff; no problem ever > with cf chips. > The DOS format utility is kind of an anachronism at this point. Usually it takes a long time to format a partition because it's iterating through every sector of the disk. It's completely unnecessary these days. All it really needs to do is write a boot sector, FAT, and root directory. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60
On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 07:55:59 -0500, Matej Horvat wrote: > On Tue, 02 Dec 2014 06:44:52 +0100, Thomas Mueller > wrote: > >> from Rugxulo: >> >>> One of the big problems (not counting HTML5 or Javascript or Flash) is >>> HTTPS. Not just for DOS but for any OS that isn't top tier (big three: >>> Mac, Win, Linux). > > On DOS, Dillo and Links support HTTPS. > >> Even the lighter-weight graphic web browsers for Linux/Unix support >> Javascript and HTTPS, Mozilla Firefox and Seamonkey, and maybe some >> others, also support HTML5, but Flash is a big problem. > > I do not understand why everyone is so deathly afraid of HTML5. HTML5 > pages do not magically stop working in HTML 4.01 browsers. HTML5 just > adds > some new elements, many of which are semantic and can be ignored when > rendering a page. According to wiki, HTML 4.01 dates back to 2001, so technically there are huge number of HTML 4.01 browsers when including the various versions released since 2001. CSS is probably the biggest reason for websites not working right in any case. Some sites are completely reliant on Javascript and are useless otherwise, but I have seen a few that will still work right in an old browser. Tons and tons of sites don't render properly or at all, with or without JS, because of CSS issues. Sometimes I go into a page's source code and delete or edit sections to make it display. > > Usually when people say HTML5, they mean the and > elements, > which currently no DOS browser supports. They are a _good_ thing. They > make it possible to include audio and video without relying on > proprietary > technologies such as Flash (which fortunately hardly any site requires > anymore, probably because of iOS's popularity). > > In fact, I am sure Arachne could easily support them by just rendering > them as a link and then downloading the audio/video file and starting the > appropriate program, like it already does. The and > elements pretty much are just an extended version of the old element > that support specifying multiple formats so the browser can choose one > depending on what it supports. Haha. A simple link to an audio or video file? But that's exactly what the site operators don't want, or they could have done it in the first place. It would be way too easy. In Opera version 4, one could click a link to an AVI file and it would download and play in the browser window. Of course, since an AVI file has the index chunk at the end, the whole thing had to transfer before playback could begin. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Quickview ver 2.60
On Wed, 03 Dec 2014 14:29:56 -0500, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi! > >> The DOS format utility is kind of an anachronism at this point. Usually >> it >> takes a long time to format a partition because it's iterating through >> every sector of the disk. It's completely unnecessary these days. All it >> really needs to do is write a boot sector, FAT, and root directory. > > That is why FORMAT has options for QUICK format, which does > exactly that: Write only the FAT, root dir and boot sector. > > Optionally, that combines with making a backup of those areas > near the end of the disk, allowing a later UNFORMAT. But of > course quick format is quickest without that backup step ;-) > > Of course both do not work with never-yet-formatted floppies. > > Eric When formatting a harddisk partition (or flash or whatever the actual medium is), MS FORMAT relies on a correct boot sector already having been created by FDISK. I discovered this not long ago when I tried to resize a partition by tweaking the MBR with a sector editor. I changed a 20GB partition to 60GB. But when I ran FORMAT, it continued to report 20GB. I had to change the size in the partition's boot sector as well. And this is just to perform a slow format. As for quick format, it doesn't work unless the partition has previously been slow-formatted to create a valid FAT. This behavior makes sense in the context of FAT16 where the disk is checked for bad clusters which can then be marked in the FAT. In the context of FAT32, not so much... -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FAT format process - was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60
On Sun, 07 Dec 2014 05:16:25 -0500, Eric Auer wrote: > > This limitation should not be present in FreeDOS: Default there is > for harddisks to do a quick format, either with or without saving > "unformat" data depending on whether there already was a filesystem. > >> This behavior makes sense in the context of FAT16 where the disk is >> checked for bad clusters which can then be marked in the FAT. In the >> context of FAT32, not so much... > > In FreeDOS, even slow format defaults to NOT check for bad clusters > for harddisks, unless you explicitly use the /U option. Even then, > you can abort the wipe / surface check process half-way. FORMAT will > still be complete then, just without the rest of the wipe and check. > > The fastest mode in FreeDOS FORMAT is /Q /U which explicitly does not > try to save unformat data. It just creates empty FAT, boot and root. > > Regards, Eric So the FreeDOS FORMAT is superior in this regard, but I don't know then why it would take a long time to format an SD card as mentioned earlier in this thread. -- Download BIRT iHub F-Type - The Free Enterprise-Grade BIRT Server from Actuate! Instantly Supercharge Your Business Reports and Dashboards with Interactivity, Sharing, Native Excel Exports, App Integration & more Get technology previously reserved for billion-dollar corporations, FREE http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=164703151&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS 2.0 GUI?
It would be interesting to see a command interpreter like freecom/command.com with some basic GUI elements added to it. A menu bar with mouse support, clock, scroll bar perhaps... Does something like this exist? I saw something similar on an Atari 800XL with a variant of SpartaDOS. At the time I thought it was not very useful though since those Ataris didn't even come with a real-time-clock or mouse (and screen updates were slow enough without adding extra stuff). On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 20:04:21 -0500, Christopher Evans wrote: > I should get my vp2os3 dos menu shell recompiled and working again. It > kinda looks like win95 in text mode. > > -- > -Chris Evans > Computer Consultant, Systems Administrator, Programmer, PC technician > Digitalatoll Solutions Group (Tawhaki Software) > Cell. : 916-612-6904 | http://www.tawhakisoft.slyip.net/ > Office: 916-382-9395 | http://www.digitalatoll.com/ > Skype: chris.evans450 | http://norcalhost.com/ > > > On Jan 18, 2015 7:37 AM, "Don Flowers" wrote: > >> Is anyone working on a functional GUI for FreeDOS? I currently use >> Windows >> 3.1 as I do consider it to be a gui and not an operating system and it >> is >> about 90 percent functional. It would be nice to have a completely open >> source OS though. >> >> -- New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any open-source DOS picture viewers out there?
I've been working on a program which can load BMP/JPG, and optionally apply various color adjustment/reduction and scaling. It's mainly for my own use, but if there is interest I could release it under a specific license. It is written in FreeBASIC (with some inline assembly), and hence can be compiled for DOS and run with at least 486+VGA. http://www.hyakushiki.net/misc/imgtoolb.zip On a semi-related note, my 3D model editor (which shares some code) can run in DOS: http://www.hyakushiki.net/3d/mbfast.zip On Thu, 14 May 2015 01:05:37 -0400, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Hello list, > > I was browsing the FreeDOS list of packages and I noticed that we have > no picture viewer. I know lots of picture viewers for DOS (my favorite > being by far the excellent SEA DOS Viewer), but none of these I know is > open. It's really sad to see so many fine softwares going to waste > because of closed sources. > > Anyone know about a free (NOT freeware) DOS picture viewer ? Blocek can > be used as a basic picture viewer, but it is much more focused on being > a text editor (as it should be), not really a picture viewer. > > Mateusz > > > -- > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Drivers or tips for 3 ISA sound cards?
In the past I had half a dozen machines with various ESS chipsets which were (mostly) SB Pro compatible. Under DOS I would run ESSCFG followed by ESSVOL, and maybe set a BLASTER environment variable (or did the utility do that itself??? I can't remember) and then it would work. Check this archive http://www.hyakushiki.net/essdos.zip On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 10:46:04 -0400, Don Flowers wrote: > I have a Compaq Armada (Laptop) with a ESS1869 - I tried every SB/ESS > driver I could find then by chance I loaded DOSSOUND and it worked. For > my > modern desktops with the oldest PCI cards (mostly ESS or Yamaha) I can > only > get sound through the internal speaker, but MPXPLAY & QView work through > the lineout - I think any successful configuration will be a compromise. > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Dale E Sterner > wrote: > >> I've quit working on it for a while. Tried every address and interupt I >> can think of. >> None work I think the chip is in off mode and needs to be turned on by >> windows. >> These sound drivers work on sound blaster cards but not on a laptop with >> ESS. >> >> >> cheers >> DS >> >> >> On Wed, 03 Jun 2015 16:18:52 +0200 Eric Auer >> writes: >> > >> > Hi! >> > >> > > What I need for my Dell is a sound blaster pro driver that works >> > on >> > > an ESS chip without windows being there. Windows turns the chip on >> > >> > > somehow. The programs are for DOS running under windows. None of >> > the >> > > drivers are for dos alone, even if they claim to be. Add windows >> > to >> > > the background and they work but who wants that. >> > >> > There are many different ESS chips, so more information is needed: >> > >> > http://support.toshiba.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=107869 >> > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ensoniq_AudioPCI >> > >> > http://www.daqarta.com/ess.htm >> > >> > What would also help is a tool to detect I/O base, IRQ and DMA >> > details >> > without hanging. No matter which card you have, often one or several >> > of those aspects go wrong. In particular with PCI cards trying to be >> > compatible to ISA SoundBlaster standards of any type, failing DMA >> > and >> > mis-routed IRQ signals are a common source of havoc. In some cases, >> > it >> > even is a hardware problem (a new mainboard cannot make PCI stuff >> > look >> > sufficiently ISA compatible any more). With SB Live, SB PCI and the >> > ESS >> > Ensoniq Audio PCI, the SoundBlaster compatibility even is a >> > completely >> > fake driver generated virtual hardware experience in the first >> > place. >> > >> > Regards, Eric >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - >> - >> > ___ >> > Freedos-user mailing list >> > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> > >> > Protect what matters >> > Floods can happen anywhere. Learn your risk and find an agent today. >> > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3165/556f0deaaf252dea23d8mp07duc >> > >> >> >> ** >> >From Dale Sterner - MS organic chemistry >> http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo00975a052 >> *** >> >> >> >> -- >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Vertical lines/bands in LCD display but OK on CRT
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:22:03 -0400, Rugxulo wrote: > > > No, I don't think so. You'd (usually) have to use raw assembly. Maybe > you could do limited stuff with debug, dunno. (Obviously you can call > interrupts with debug or do a few other arcane things, but it's not > nearly as good as a full assembler.) > Changing screen modes should be doable since it's only an int call. eg. mov ax,$4F02 mov bx,$0102 int $10 (I believe this changes to 800x600 with 100x37 text) -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking: With MS Client, "Error 5: Access has been denied"
Did you check the NTLM compatibility mode in Vista? HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa There should be a DWORD named LmCompatibilityLevel set to value of 1 On Sun, 14 Jun 2015 13:32:34 -0400, John Hupp wrote: > I installed MS-DOS Network Client, which successfully initializes with > TCP/IP via DHCP. > > But when I try "net use z: \\server\share" and enter the password (with > a user name that matches the Win Vista peer server account), I get > "Error 5: Access has been denied." > > Likewise, "net view \\server" yields the same error. > > And "net view" yields "Error 6118: The list of servers for this > workgroup is not currently available." > > Linux machines on the LAN connect to the server OK with the same account. > > I tried disabling SMB2 via a registry entry (per > https://www.petri.com/how-to-disable-smb-2-on-windows-vista-or-server-2008), > but this made no difference. > > Anyone know how to fix this? > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [solved] Doom unstable with LBACACHE or RDISK
On Sun, 28 Jun 2015 16:50:25 -0400, Mateusz Viste wrote: > On 28/06/2015 20:03, Rugxulo wrote: >> "Below 16M"? You mean for DMA or the like? > > I have honestly no idea what the 'low-level' implications are. If > someone asked me 2 days ago, I'd say that's impossible, since an > application only requests XMS "handles" from the XMS driver, and > performs all moves from/to XMS by calling the XMS driver over a small > 64K window of data... Hence the application is not aware at all where > physically the memory it gets is located at. DOOM is a 32-bit program, it doesn't use 64KB segments. It doesn't even need an XMS driver installed to run. BTW, I tested DOOM 1.9 on my FreeDOS install and got similar results. My system is a Pentium III 600e, 192MB of RAM, with an ISA Sound Blaster 16. If I have a large (40MB) UIDE disk cache active then the system halts upon exiting the game. Under Windows 98 DOS, it crashes with a GPF if I have a 32MB SMARTDRV cache. It does seem like a bug in the old DOS4GW. -- Monitor 25 network devices or servers for free with OpManager! OpManager is web-based network management software that monitors network devices and physical & virtual servers, alerts via email & sms for fault. Monitor 25 devices for free with no restriction. Download now http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/292181274;119417398;o ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] AMD PowerNow adjustment in DOS
Here is a utility for adjusting speed/voltage settings on K8 CPUs (eg. Athlon 64, Turion 64). It won't work on K10/Phenom-based CPUs which use a different scheme. http://www.hyakushiki.net/misc/powernow.zip Running the program with no argument shows the contents of the status register, including the default and current settings (in hexadecimal). New values to set can be specified on the command line. The CPU itself will not let you set excessively high voltage or speeds (unless it is an unlocked Black Edition CPU). However you can set too low of a voltage, leading to a crash. Making a large change of both voltage and multiplier at the same time will likely lead to a crash as well. The voltage should be raised before raising the multiplier, and the multiplier should be lowered before also lowering the voltage. A value of 0 for voltage translates to 1.550V. The voltage decreases in .025V steps from there. So 10h translates to 1.150V A value of 0 for multiplier is 4x (800MHz). It increases in half steps from there. So 10h translates to 12x (2400MHz) -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] AMD PowerNow adjustment in DOS
Currently, there are no checks. As for documentation and whatnot, it's on the to-do list. On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 04:04:56 -0400, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Looks neat! Any chance for having it released with clear authorship, and > some generic license? (say, 2-clause BSD for instance, to keep things > small) > > Does the tool check that it acts on a supported CPU before operating? > Performing such low-level actions on unsupported CPUs could have very > unexpected results. > > Ideally, a little bit of documentation included in the archive would be > awesome :) (even as short as a copy/paste of your previous message) > > cheers, > Mateusz > > > > On 26/03/2016 02:06, TJ Edmister wrote: >> Here is a utility for adjusting speed/voltage settings on K8 CPUs (eg. >> Athlon 64, Turion 64). It won't work on K10/Phenom-based CPUs which use >> a >> different scheme. >> >> http://www.hyakushiki.net/misc/powernow.zip >> >> Running the program with no argument shows the contents of the status >> register, including the default and current settings (in hexadecimal). >> New >> values to set can be specified on the command line. The CPU itself will >> not let you set excessively high voltage or speeds (unless it is an >> unlocked Black Edition CPU). However you can set too low of a voltage, >> leading to a crash. Making a large change of both voltage and multiplier >> at the same time will likely lead to a crash as well. The voltage should >> be raised before raising the multiplier, and the multiplier should be >> lowered before also lowering the voltage. >> >> A value of 0 for voltage translates to 1.550V. The voltage decreases in >> .025V steps from there. So 10h translates to 1.150V >> >> A value of 0 for multiplier is 4x (800MHz). It increases in half steps >> from there. So 10h translates to 12x (2400MHz) >> > > > -- > Transform Data into Opportunity. > Accelerate data analysis in your applications with > Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. > Click to learn more. > http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785351&iu=/4140 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Transform Data into Opportunity. Accelerate data analysis in your applications with Intel Data Analytics Acceleration Library. Click to learn more. http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=278785471&iu=/4140 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB
On Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:30:03 -0400, Ralf Quint wrote: > On 4/23/2016 6:53 PM, Dale E Sterner wrote: >> The copy command is limited to what you set the mode command to. >> FREEDOS lets you set the baud very high but other dos's and >> even windows has 9600 baud as the upper limit, well below >> the uarts top speed. >> If I type copy filename.prn com1: in any other dos besides FREEDOS >> its top transmission speed is 9600. Any graphics file would take a few >> minutes at that speed. Text file are ok at 9600 but pictures take >> forever. >> Terminal software like xtalk only send text files at high speeds. >> For photos you need the dos copy command. > Sorry, but all of this is NOT correct. Once again, nothing in DOS limits > how high you set the UART speed No, he's right. The MODE command under MS-DOS 6.0 as well as Win98 is arbitrarily limited to 19200bps. Doesn't mean that other programs can't set a higher speed themselves, but MODE cannot. However under Windows 7 32-bit, the MODE command doesn't appear to have any limits. (I can set eg. MODE COM3: baud=66 and it will accept that, although this is not a "real" serial port) -- Find and fix application performance issues faster with Applications Manager Applications Manager provides deep performance insights into multiple tiers of your business applications. It resolves application problems quickly and reduces your MTTR. Get your free trial! https://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/302982198;130105516;z ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:20:32 -0400, Eric Auer wrote: > > * Is it easy enough to make a bootable USB stick with FreeDOS with > plenty of software included which does NOT need to install to > harddisk but can be used as "live" operating system boot disk? Isn't there a bootable disk image like this available? It's not that hard to make one although the process could certainly be simplified. It would be nice if we had a utility to distribute along side the disk image, which would take care of a couple things. 1) writing the image to the disk/flash device and 2) resizing the FAT partition to fit the available space (so that only one disk image would need to be distributed rather than various differently sized ones) I never ran the installer for FD myself. I just formatted a 2GB CF card, manually copied the FD files to it, and then ran some utility which created an FD boot sector (I'm not sure what environment I had to be in to run this utility... it may have been Win98) and of course edited the fdconfig.sys (or whatever it's called... this happened years ago.) Since I boot Win2K/XP from FAT32, I also have the ability to put FD right on the C: partition and add it to my BOOT.INI as an option. This needs a little juggling of boot sectors to accomplish though. -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohomanageengine ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Games - and DOS installation
On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 13:11:12 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 6:39 AM, TJ Edmister > wrote: >> Since I boot Win2K/XP from FAT32, I also have the ability to put FD >> right >> on the C: partition and add it to my BOOT.INI as an option. This needs a >> little juggling of boot sectors to accomplish though. > > I have to ask: why FAT32? > I like FAT32. Anyway, we already had this discussion. Check your email archives :) -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohomanageengine ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS website (rants)
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 21:08:03 -0400, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Jose Antonio Senna > wrote: >> >> This said, I also admit browsing from DOS >> is going to be less and less practical. >> Lynx 2.8.5 supports HTTPS (and is the only >> tried DOS browser which does), > > I'm pretty sure Links2 (non-lite version) can support HTTPS also. > > But if you try Links2 and it doesn't work well for you, I'm pretty > sure the developer (mikulas) would still accept your feedback. He > seems open to suggestions. > >> It shall be possible to write a browser "for DOS" >> from scratch (possibly using only expanded >> memory, so it may run even in a 8088, albeit >> a fast one), but it will take so much skilled >> effort that nobody is going to do it. > > Honestly, I'd err more on the side of "nobody has those skills > anymore" rather than pretending "if only we had more xyz" (money, > developers, time, etc). It's not a lack of skills. DOS is lacking third party drivers that exist for modern OSs. However, something could still be written that ran on a limited selection of hardware. DOS is lacking various libraries. However, these libraries are still maintained, people know how they work, they could be reimplemented. Anything that can be developed for Windows can be developed for DOS, even if you have to reimplement Windows itself to get there (although that would be the worse case scenario...) The problem is what it means to be "a web browser." It's 25 years of haphazard evolutionary design-by-commitee squared. An unmitigated disaster. Nobody in their right mind would try to support all this crap that never should have been in the first place. This is why there are very few "fully-featured" browsers available for ANY OS that don't borrow a ton of code from something else. -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports.http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTPS and DOS browsers
On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 05:24:30 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > More to the point, who *needed* it? > > MNG is PNG with support for animation. PNG was created to be a > graphics format unencumbered by patents. If GIF was patent encumbered, then it would seem that anyone who wanted support for animation in an unencumbered format "needed" MNG. > PNG grew out of that mess, as developers recognized a need for a > graphics format unencumbered by patent. But the PNG developers didn't > care for the MNG format - they thought overloading PNG to also do > animation was bad design As someone who has implemented a PNG decoder from the official spec, I had a good chuckle over the idea of the PNG devs shying away from something because of "bad design." > > The Internet more or less worked for 99% of the world using the stuff > you advocate *20 years ago*. Yes. That's what the previous poster just said. > > Since you seem to have missed the fact, I'll be a good guy and clue > you in. That was *then*. This is *now*. What worked 20 years ago > *won't* work now. On the contrary. Despite deliberate efforts to break things, there is plenty that still works. > The world has changed and we have to change with > it. Standing still is *not* an option. Well, you can't stand still if your job security depends on making changes for the sake of it. Mine doesn't. > You might not like a lot of the changes needed, but you're stuck with > them. I have found it's remarkably easy to not use things that I don't wish to use. YMMV. > The world is bigger than you are and doesn't *care* what *you* > think. As spokesman for the world, maybe you can do me a favor and inform them that this feeling is mutual. > __ > Dennis > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which freedos on 486
On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:57:35 -0400, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > The issue I am facing now is that the mechanical drives I connected to > the > secondary IDE channel of my Vesa Local Bus controller are not detected. > Windows 98 SE bootdisk does not detect them either, The BIOS of my system > only supports 2 hard drives. IIRC, if your motherboard BIOS only supports two drives, you could use a controller card with its own onboard ROM for additional drives to be recognized under DOS (or Win9x). Depending on what chipset the card uses, there might also be a driver which can enable the second channel. Not sure if the various DMA DOS drivers would detect and add drives on the second channel (in fact, I don't know if they work on ISA/VL IDE controllers or if PCI is required) -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] HTTPS
From: "TJ Edmister" On Mon, 01 Aug 2016 05:24:30 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > > More to the point, who *needed* it? > > MNG is PNG with support for animation. PNG was created to be a > graphics format unencumbered by patents. If GIF was patent encumbered, then it would seem that anyone who wanted support for animation in an unencumbered format "needed" MNG. > PNG grew out of that mess, as developers recognized a need for a > graphics format unencumbered by patent. But the PNG developers didn't > care for the MNG format - they thought overloading PNG to also do > animation was bad design As someone who has implemented a PNG decoder from the official spec, I had a good chuckle over the idea of the PNG devs shying away from something because of "bad design." > > The Internet more or less worked for 99% of the world using the stuff > you advocate *20 years ago*. Yes. That's what the previous poster just said. > > Since you seem to have missed the fact, I'll be a good guy and clue > you in. That was *then*. This is *now*. What worked 20 years ago > *won't* work now. On the contrary. Despite deliberate efforts to break things, there is plenty that still works. > The world has changed and we have to change with > it. Standing still is *not* an option. Well, you can't stand still if your job security depends on making changes for the sake of it. Mine doesn't. > You might not like a lot of the changes needed, but you're stuck with > them. I have found it's remarkably easy to not use things that I don't wish to use. YMMV. > The world is bigger than you are and doesn't *care* what *you* > think. As spokesman for the world, maybe you can do me a favor and inform them that this feeling is mutual. > __ > Dennis > > -- > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Which
From: "TJ Edmister" On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 13:57:35 -0400, Dimitris Zilaskos wrote: > The issue I am facing now is that the mechanical drives I connected to > the > secondary IDE channel of my Vesa Local Bus controller are not detected. > Windows 98 SE bootdisk does not detect them either, The BIOS of my system > only supports 2 hard drives. IIRC, if your motherboard BIOS only supports two drives, you could use a controller card with its own onboard ROM for additional drives to be recognized under DOS (or Win9x). Depending on what chipset the card uses, there might also be a driver which can enable the second channel. Not sure if the various DMA DOS drivers would detect and add drives on the second channel (in fact, I don't know if they work on ISA/VL IDE controllers or if PCI is required) -- What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and traffic patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols are consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user --- Internet Rex 2.29 * Origin: capcity2.synchro.net - 502/875-8938 (1:2320/105.99) --- * BgNet 1.0b12 = CCO * KY/US * 502/875-8938 * capcity2.synchro.net --- Synchronet 3.15a-Linux ListGate 1.3 * Capitol City Online - Frankfort, KY - telnet://capitolcityonline.net -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] upgrade my PC from FD 1.1 to FD 1.2 RE: to Rugxulo AUG 12, 2017
MS implemented an arbitrary limit of 32GB for FAT32 volumes, but with third-party tools much larger ones are possible (up to 2TB?). Maybe those flash cards could be reformatted and used in the camera with FAT32 instead. On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 06:27:01 -0400, Dale E Sterner wrote: I've seen a hand full of links for newly revised dos games here. I could use exFAT support for dos I read camera chips into dos and play them on QV. I couldn't read my brother in laws & my cousins new camera chips. DOS usually dos better with chips. QV is really good. DS -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Would you use a native 32/64-bit FreeDOS/BIOS system?
On Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:15:08 -0500, Samuel V. via Freedos-user wrote: I was thinking that it could become necessary to start implementing a FreeDOS version that included natively its own BIOS, and that this combination of FreeDOS/BIOS is implemented entirely native as 32 or 64-bit code, to keep using the known DOS environment, the same DOS/BIOS INT calls programming style (now also with other ways to call services), but extending everything to more modern CPU modes. Reimplementing BIOS functions so that DOS could still run on a system without BIOS would be useful. (I suspect someone will do this sooner or later.) Creating new functionality for 32/64bit code would only be useful for new software, so there's not likely to be much interest there. Personally, since the FreeBASIC compiler can target DOS, I still write code and run it under DOS on occasion. But I don't develop under DOS because of its single-tasking nature. I like to have a couple of text editors open all the time and I don't want to wait for a reboot if my program crashes. The intention is to update FreeDOS and the BIOS to 32 and 64-bit modes, Adding 32-bit multitasking and memory protection to DOS would be nifty. Moving to 64bit could be problematic though because of the lack of V86 mode. This is why I don't normally use 64bit Windows, it can't run any 16-bit programs at all (without the extra hassle of using an emulator). without forgetting the original 16-bit version, but now giving native access to features that DOS would benefit from, but that aren't available in Real Mode, like many Gigabytes of RAM, large IDE/SATA hard disks, more capable drivers, more file systems. More drivers and filesystem support could be added in real mode. Some may not run as efficiently in real mode as if they were fully 32bit code, but to avoid switching between 16 and 32bit code and have it work with existing programs I guess you'd need a new DOS extender that included its own 32bit drivers. Also, I don't think there is a 64bit DOS extender yet. Whoever makes that could create the standard :) -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Question Regarding FreeDOS's fdisk
On Sat, 20 Jan 2018 22:31:38 -0500, Kyle Nied wrote: What, out of all of these fdisk versions (minus vanilla fdisk, of course), can you create multiple primary partitions? I'm pretty sure WinXP itself can create multiple primary partitions. Why not create the first partition (leaving some extra space on the disk) with whatever utility you want, install XP, then when XP is up and running create a second partition using XP's disk manager? In regards to other things, yes, I will look at boot managers for this dual boot, as it would not work without it, due to the configuration I am trying to achieve. If you had XP and 98 each installed on a partition, I think you could grab the 98 boot sector and add it to BOOT.INI. Then when XP boots you would have a menu option to boot 98. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any way to add files to freedos?
Yes, there are ways. For instance, you could use the COPY CON command and then enter a machine language program using the keyboard (The folks on comp.lang.asm.x86 came up with a nice one using base64) although that is probably not the most time efficient method. What type of storage device did you boot from? What other software is on there? Is there an RS232 serial port? On Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:01:56 -0500, Brian Yglesias wrote: I just attempted to flash a sas controller into IT mode and it failed. Now I don't have the original firmware to revert the change, and if I reboot I will brick the controller. Is there any way to add files to freedos once it is booted? -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Any way to add files to freedos?
The situation is not looking good. Are you still able to copy or create files on the drive letter that you booted from? There are two DOS programs, MS Interlink and Laplink, that could self-copy from one DOS PC to another through the serial port. But here's the kicker: the target PC has to be able to execute the MODE command to configure its serial port. How would you get the MODE utility? Well, now we are back to typing in a program with the keyboard, that is if it didn't lose the ability to create files when the USB stick was removed/reinserted. (I'm assuming you don't have the DEBUG program either.) So if you seriously want to try that, I would suggest going to comp.lang.asm.x86 and ask for instructions on how to use the program described in the recent thread "Hex to bin" What about doing it without the MODE command? By using some COPY COM1 commands and another PC with a terminal program it might be possible to discover the port's current settings. Of course, if they differ from the ones that Interlnk or Laplink were designed to use then you wouldn't be able to use those programs. In theory, you could write your own program that did the same thing. In practice, it might be time to give up and try rebooting... On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 06:10:07 -0500, Brian Yglesias wrote: Thanks for tge reply. I should mention off the bat that I at one point removed the usb memstick I booted from, copied files to it, and reinserted. It didn't work, and running a command subsequent to that failed. I'm not sure if I compounded the problem, or if it is coincidental. I booted from a usb memstick, and there's nothing on there but the aoutoexec.bat, it's conf, localization stuff, and a couple of firmware files and, and the utility that sometimes flashes it into IT mode. There is a serial port on the server and there's a linux server also with a serial port inches away. In addition, I have a laptop with windows and a USB serial port. I'll be back at the console in a few hours. I presume the goal is to read the assembler program from the seriapl port, correct? Thanks for the reply. -- Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] questions on installation and acpi
Greetings, I wanted to try out FreeDOS on an old laptop where I have replaced the HDD with a CF card. I am looking to avoid floppies/CDs however, so I am wondering if anyone has an image that could be written to the CF card that would then boot into FreeDOS. I`ve found that once I have a bootable CF card I can dump the whole thing to an image using a sector editor, and use that image to make another CF card of equal or greater size bootable as well. Having a bootable image available would be convenient for some folks, am I right? I`m also wondering if it is possible to install FreeDOS onto a FAT16/32 partition alongside Windows NT4/2K/XP and add it to the Windows boot menu by pointing it to a file containing the FreeDOS boot sector. That is how I keep a win98 command prompt around as an option on 2K/XP boxes. The tricky part of course is getting that boot sector, along with the numbers in it that match the drive geometry. I`m assuming FreeDOS uses its own boot sector that is different than a DOS or win9x one, is this correct? Does it use "IO.SYS" and "MSDOS.SYS" as system files or are they called something else? The other thing I`m curious about is how speedstep and CPU states are working under FreeDOS. I have another laptop which had the CPU (a low-voltage one that is soldered to the board!) replaced with a faster model. Since the BIOS wasn`t designed to support this, it always boots up at the default (minimum) speed. There are utilities to manipulate the CPU speed under Windows but I haven`t found anything that runs under DOS. I tried FDAPM, and got an error about "unable to parse ..." but surprisingly, using the "speed" argument I was able to switch it to something even slower (but not faster). I didn`t know a Pentium M could run at less than 600MHz, but when I used speed4 it seemed like it was cut down to half that speed. (I took this opportunity to run the old bytemark CPU benchmark, which normally would crash on anything 600MHz or faster due to a bug) TIA... -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Bootable FreeDOS CD or USB Drive for Flashing Motherboard BIOS
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:51:36 -0500, Bob Cochran wrote: > Hi, > > I have an MSI brand motherboard which I need to flash to the latest > BIOS. However, all my systems run Linux or *nix; I do not have a > Microsoft Windows-based system for creating a bootable floppy. MSI seems > to require a Windows or DOS-based operating system to do the BIOS > flashing. Is there an easy way to do this with FreeDOS? I'd prefer to > create a bootable CD that has the BIOS firmware file and *.exe flashing > program right on it. > > I searched your Wiki and the freedos.org site for advice or an FAQ on > this question. > > Help with this is deeply appreciated. > > Thanks > > Bob Cochran > Check whether your MSI motherboard BIOS supports booting from LAN, a.k.a. PXE. If so, then you can insert the BIOS update into a bootable disk image (using winimage or similar) and make it available via TFTP from another PC on the LAN. Then when you power on the MSI system it can grab the disk image over the network and boot it as if it were a physical floppy. More details here: http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Administration/Network-Booting-via-PXE-the-Basics/2/ -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] questions on installation and acpi
On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:47:10 -0500, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 17-1-2012 4:31, TJ Edmister schreef: > >> I`m also wondering if it is possible to install FreeDOS onto a FAT16/32 >> partition alongside Windows NT4/2K/XP and add it to the Windows boot >> menu >> by pointing it to a file containing the FreeDOS boot sector. That is >> how I >> keep a win98 command prompt around as an option on 2K/XP boxes. The >> tricky >> part of course is getting that boot sector, along with the numbers in it >> that match the drive geometry. I`m assuming FreeDOS uses its own boot >> sector that is different than a DOS or win9x one, is this correct? Does >> it >> use "IO.SYS" and "MSDOS.SYS" as system files or are they called >> something >> else? > > It's possible, but I'm not 100% sure FreeDOS won't ruin the NT > bootloader. Think I disabled all SYS code except for offering the user a > choice at end of installation. Getting a bootsector created by SYS is > quite simple: SYS C: C: C:\FREEDOS.BIN /BOOTONLY > If used as this it won't even write to the real bootsector area, but > instead to this file C:\FREEDOS.BIN Thanks, I was able to get this working. Since I already had a flash card setup with NT4 and win98, I booted to the win98 prompt, ran SYS as you described, copied KERNEL.SYS to C:\ and added a C:\FREEDOS.BIN="FreeDOS" line to BOOT.INI. I also created an FDCONFIG.SYS with a SHELL= line pointing to the COMMAND.COM included with FD -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Big bootable disk for CD
On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 14:07:01 -0500, dmccunney wrote: > On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Bob Cochran > wrote: >> Thank you, Bret. I was just able to buy some reasonably priced USB >> drives and I'll play with installing FreeDOS on these. I too seem to >> remember that Win98 or Win XP DOS boot disks always boot with an >> extended memory management application. Does FreeDOS have the >> equivalent? > > FreeDOS comes with open source equivalents of HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.EXE. > > FreeDOS *is* a DOS system, so you'll have the standard DOS limit of > 1MB of real memory, and 640KB of conventional memory available to > applications. > > The box I have FreeDOS on has 256MB of RAM. I load HIMEM.SYS, and > have a disk cache and a ramdisk in XMS memory. Isn`t XMGR.SYS the xms memory manager under FreeDOS? Loading HIMEM.SYS seemed to cause a crash for me, although I could be wrong. > >> The machine I'm testing FreeDOS on has 16 Gb of memory installed. > > Er, don't you mean 16 megabytes? 16GB as in gigabytes is certainly believable these days, on a 64-bit system. > >> Bob > __ > Dennis > > -- > Try before you buy = See our experts in action! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-dev2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
FYI this is v1agra spam. Probably sent by a malware infested PC. Curious combination of email addresses in the "to" field... On Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:11:08 -0500, Brad Woosley wrote: > > http://prolumia.eu/mor/184042.html > > -- > Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! > The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers > is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, > Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Keep Your Developer Skills Current with LearnDevNow! The most comprehensive online learning library for Microsoft developers is just $99.99! Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL - plus HTML5, CSS3, MVC3, Metro Style Apps, more. Free future releases when you subscribe now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/learndevnow-d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] A tool for CPU-load measurement
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:33:42 -0400, Zbigniew wrote: > > This time I would compare, how much CPU time will my "toy program" > need on different machines. I would to make it show, how many percent > of CPU time was needed, if this can be possible. > > Why? Because I'm not going to make it "as fast as possible" - max. 50 > frames per second will do, and there's no need for more - but still > I'm interested, how much processing power it'll need to achieve these > 50 frames. And how much will be still left for me (DX-Forth has > multitasking support). I would to test it on my Sempron 2 GHz, and > on... very old 386SX25. > Is your screen update syncronized with the monitor`s vertical retrace? There is an old trick for CPU load measurement in video game development where you change the screen`s background color after processing for that frame, and reset it at the beginning of the next frame. So when you run the program, and see that the color changes half-way down the screen, then you know that the CPU was busy for the first half of the frame until it caught up with the CRT beam and then it was idle for the remaining time. (you don`t actually need a CRT, as the video card timing will be the same even if the signal is actually going to an LCD) -- This SF email is sponsosred by: Try Windows Azure free for 90 days Click Here http://p.sf.net/sfu/sfd2d-msazure ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] To emulate or not to emulate...
On Fri, 20 Apr 2012 00:26:04 -0400, Michael C. Robinson wrote: > I want to be able to play vinyl records, I have a Hauppage PVR150 card > connected via PCI to my P3 system. Under Windows 2000, I can use the > card to run my Playstation II through the monitor. It may also be > possible to run the record player through the soundblaster 16 PCI > sound card. Running the audio from a record player into a PC should be no problem, although you will probably need a preamp if the record player doesn`t already include one. I don`t know about using an SB16 PCI under DOS, but ISA Sound Blasters and ESS Audiodrive, etc. were pretty useful under DOS. I used to run a program called DSS (link on this page http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.Mediaplayers ) I`ve never heard of TV cards being usable under DOS (unless you count one of those ancient screen grabbers like "Computer Eyes" or the like) -- For Developers, A Lot Can Happen In A Second. Boundary is the first to Know...and Tell You. Monitor Your Applications in Ultra-Fine Resolution. Try it FREE! http://p.sf.net/sfu/Boundary-d2dvs2 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Tue, 01 May 2012 21:16:35 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > Hey Y'all, > > Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports? There were no such thing as > USB ports back in the MS-DOS days. ;-) > > My friends on the rotary engine mail list want to know so they can use > it to control the engine ignition and fuel injection systems. Another > awesome use for FreeDOS. > Hi, hope you don`t mind if I ask which system it is? Were they thinking about running FreeDOS on the actual engine controller, or on a PC that interfaces with it? I have tinkered with some aftermarket engine electronics (MS, megajolt, ostrich) and they all used RS232 to communicate, but sometimes with a RS232-USB adaptor in between. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Wed, 02 May 2012 19:14:27 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > As I understand it the plan is to run DOS on an older tablet and use USB > to interface directly with the sensors and actuators. Hardware > interrupts will be used as timing events to keep everything in sync with > the engine. > Sounds like DOS would be a good choice for that sort of real-time application. I haven`t heard of any existing software that does this though. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] USB Support
On Fri, 04 May 2012 21:32:52 -0400, Mark LaPierre wrote: > > Well, this is an open source project. FreeDOS users should be familiar > with the "roll your own" concept of software acquisition. > > The chief engineer is leaning toward using compiled QuickBasic. Any > well seasoned MS-DOS veteran should be familiar with QB. Of course you > may well be dating yourself if you've ever actually written any QB code. > I wrote something in QB last week :) -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Virtual floppy change problem with VirtualBox
On Wed, 23 May 2012 14:33:00 -0400, Jack wrote: > > Back in 1980, I told an old friend of mine about a 750K video-driver > package which I had seen (written in "C", of course!), and he noted, > "They've got GUTS, calling that a DRIVER!" Wow, that sounds familiar. Was your friend Hal Hardenberg by any chance? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Networking
The highest clock rates that were sold were 200MHz for Pentium, 233MHz for Pentium MMX, and 300MHz for Mobile Pentium MMX. The late mobile chips were made with a finer process (250nm IIRC). On Mon, 18 Jun 2012 11:25:01 -0400, David C. Kerber wrote: > Pentium definitely came in a 233MHz version, but I thought the 300MHz > version was Pentium II only. > > > -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Serial port or USB/PCMCIA modem support
It might be possible to get a PCMCIA card working, depending on the particular hardware. Most likely, you would need a set of "card and socket services" DOS drivers for your PCMCIA chipset and a true PCMCIA card (rather than the newer Cardbus type, which almost everyone seems to refer to as PCMCIA also). On Sun, 02 Sep 2012 22:52:03 -0400, Aman Singer wrote: > Hi, All. > I have a laptop on which I would like to install Free DOS. I am, > however, in some difficulty. The laptop has only one serial port built > in. I > am in need of two such ports. The unit has a USB port and several PCMCIA > slots, but no other serial port. If I may ask, is there any external > hardware which provides a serial port that I could use? Alternatively, > does > FreeDOS support any PCMCIA or USB modems? > Thanks. > Aman Singer > > > -- > Live Security Virtual Conference > Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and > threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions > will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware > threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS bootable CD image sought
Hi, have a couple ideas for you below... On Sat, 24 Nov 2012 22:28:39 -0500, bruce.bowman tds.net wrote: > This may be a FAQ. > > I have an old DOS program that I wrote and still want to run, but it uses > VESA 3.0 SVGA graphics, which are not [fully] supported by later versions > of Windoze.* There are a couple fixes out there to make VESA modes work for DOS programs running within Windows (though I haven`t tried them myself). Search for winxpfix.zip or videoprt.zip > The bootable CD images that I've been seeing for FreeDOS and DOS 7.1 are > all *installation* disks that first fake a floppy drive and then load a > bootable floppy disk image that cannot be edited. If your program can run from a floppy, perhaps you could add it to the bootable image. Use a program like winimage, or write the image to a diskette, copy your program to it, then create a new image from there. -- Monitor your physical, virtual and cloud infrastructure from a single web console. Get in-depth insight into apps, servers, databases, vmware, SAP, cloud infrastructure, etc. Download 30-day Free Trial. Pricing starts from $795 for 25 servers or applications! http://p.sf.net/sfu/zoho_dev2dev_nov ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
[Freedos-user] DOS Speedstep utility
For anyone wanting to control speed/power usage under DOS on an Intel CPU, I have created a small utility to query/set the relevant MSRs. I have only tested it on a PentiumM, where the voltage translates as 0.700+vv*.016 but it should work on Core CPUs although the voltage formula is different. Beware it is possible to make your system unstable if you set values out of spec. source and binary here: http://www.hyakushiki.net/misc/speedstp.zip -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] freedos-98
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 15:58:34 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:14 PM, Michael Robinson > wrote: >> >> So yes, if I can run hxrt on top of freedos and come up with some sort >> of packet driver for the PCI Realtek network card... that will be legal >> and I won't have to worry about how many computers I'm setting >> up to play Warcraft II. > > No idea if Warcraft II actually runs under HX. It may not, and that > wouldn't be a huge shock. Sad but true. Go back to Warcraft 1 (or > similar game, search Gog.com), which actually ran on real DOS. There may have been a Windows-specific version of Warcraft II released at some point? But the Warcraft II that I`m familiar with did run under plain DOS (well... with DOS4GW). Only the included map editor needed Windows (3.1 or higher) to run. And I played LAN games under DOS by setting up an IPX network. Check the device driver archive for the ethernet card for: a setup program (for configuring IRQ and I/O address, not all cards come with one), LSL.COM, NET.CFG, and a driver (often called IPXODI). > *snip* > > I am against abandoning or throwing out "working" hardware just > because it's not the latest fad anymore. But most people want to chase > newer tech than support older stuff. If it's "old", it's automatically > "bad", but "new" is somehow "perfect" (but only for a few months!). This is my feeling as well. The implications of "buy our new version! because our old version was crap!" seem to be lost on most. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Windows 98SE and ipxwrapper...
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 00:32:18 -0500, Michael Robinson wrote: > Windows 98 sort of running on top of a DOS system doesn't work with > ipxwrapper-0.4.0. There is an error that iplphapi.dll can't be found > or something similar. Why do you need an ipx wrapper on win98? You can install the IPX protocol natively under the network control panel and DOS programs running within Windows will be able to use it. > Hmm, I guess I could run 2000 instead even though the computer is only > a K6-2 500 and I'd probably have to search for SIS 530 W2K video > drivers. If SIS 530 has a VESA 2.0 BIOS you could try the VBEMP universal driver. *snip* > I'm sure there is a dos driver for my Realtek 8139 10/100 network card. This is quite likely. RTL8139 has drivers for everything. Even NT 3.51. Even Amiga. -- LogMeIn Rescue: Anywhere, Anytime Remote support for IT. Free Trial Remotely access PCs and mobile devices and provide instant support Improve your efficiency, and focus on delivering more value-add services Discover what IT Professionals Know. Rescue delivers http://p.sf.net/sfu/logmein_12329d2d ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] vfd(2)
Another DOS utility which I have used for dumping/writing floppy disk images is here: http://www.msxarchive.nl/pub/msx/utils/othersys/dcopy.zip It allows for specifying drive geometry, so in the case that you are having trouble creating a dump because of a flaw in an unused area of the media, perhaps you can create a partial dump (eg. 50 out of 80 tracks) that still manages to capture all of the relevant data. On Wed, 16 Jan 2013 13:34:09 -0500, Bernd Blaauw wrote: > Op 16-1-2013 6:28, kurt godel schreef: >> "fdread" from Feinman's createcd133, which flawlessly created an .img >> from a real floppy in the drive. >> I can actually boot this machine from a bootable floppy, yet the >> fdread utility runs to a certain percentage than stops with the >> message:"disk not formatted properly."' >> That motivated use of VFD; I didn't realize VFD could edit an >> existing .img; the how-to documentation for VFD is almost non-existant. >> I'll try Bernds suggestion.TNX. > > Under Windows, WinImage is a good one. Perhaps under DOS, FreeDOS's > DISKCOPY program would do the trick > (DISKCOPY A: C:\FLOPPY.IMG /O /G /X ) > > Not sure what the fdread program is, maybe was created before DISKCOPY. > Some RAREAD/RAWREAD program is also an option if it exists as > counterpart for RAWRITE. > > -- > Master Java SE, Java EE, Eclipse, Spring, Hibernate, JavaScript, jQuery > and much more. Keep your Java skills current with LearnJavaNow - > 200+ hours of step-by-step video tutorials by Java experts. > SALE $49.99 this month only -- learn more at: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122612 > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Master Visual Studio, SharePoint, SQL, ASP.NET, C# 2012, HTML5, CSS, MVC, Windows 8 Apps, JavaScript and much more. Keep your skills current with LearnDevNow - 3,200 step-by-step video tutorials by Microsoft MVPs and experts. ON SALE this month only -- learn more at: http://p.sf.net/sfu/learnmore_122712 ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd
FAT16 can handle a 2GB partition (4GB partition can be created with Microsoft's FORMAT but support seems to be buggy) The ~500MB limit was actually a 1024 cylinders limit (CHS addressing) with older BIOSs. One workaround for this at the time was to divide down the number of cylinders to keep it under 1024 and increase the number of heads reported to DOS. Eventually we maxed out at 255 heads, hence the ~8GB limit. On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 20:33:11 -0500, john s wolter wrote: > BS, > > Don't forget the FAT-16 limit of 514 or was that 504 MBytes. Somehow > this > issue keeps being asked. Maybe we are not doing enough to explain it > clearly. > > Cheers, > John S Wolter > > On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Bob Schwier > wrote: > >> Hey neat. I used Ontrack Disk Manager back in the eighties. >> bs >> >> -- >> *From:* Marco Achury >> *To:* sakura kinomoto ; Discussion and general >> questions about FreeDOS. >> *Sent:* Saturday, February 9, 2013 6:59 AM >> *Subject:* Re: [Freedos-user] Bios limitation at 8 gb, and new hdd >> >> On DOS this is a normal limitation. >> >> There a program "Ontrack Disk Manager" that help you to format big >> partitions. >> >> You can left 1 or 2 partitions for DOS (8 Gb each) and the remaining >> disk >> you >> can use it with another operating system. >> >> -- >> -- >> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ >> Marco A. Achury >> Tel: +58-(212)-6158777 >> Cel: +58-(414)-3142282 >> Skype: marcoachuryhttp://www.achury.com.ve >> >> >> >> El 09/02/2013 06:48 a.m., sakura kinomoto escribió: >> >> Hi all! >> I have a PC 1996 year, and bought a hd >> d, Samsung sp0802n, (maybe 2005 year), with 80 gigabites >> >> But my bios can see only (first) 8 gigabites >> I am newbie, so, please, tell me, what software can help? >> Thanks for any hint! >> >> >> I love FreeDOS! :) >> -- >> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer >> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 >> and get the hardware for free! Learn >> more.http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing >> listFreedos-user@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer >> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 >> and get the hardware for free! Learn more. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer >> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 >> and get the hardware for free! Learn more. >> http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb >> ___ >> Freedos-user mailing list >> Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user >> >> -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] uHex - a hex editor for DOS released under GPL
I like it. I have to ask though, when editing a large file, is there a way to seek to a particular offset aside from scrolling for ages? If not I think that would be a high priority feature to add (2nd place would probably be a search function). On Sun, 10 Feb 2013 13:53:45 -0500, Mateusz Viste wrote: > Hello, > > Just wanted to announce that I made this weekend a little hex viewer for > DOS, which I released under GNU GPL. Might be of some interest to anyone > needing to peek at binary files from time to time. > > An extract of its readme file: > "uHex is a simple and fast hex viewer for DOS. It has been written with > care to work fast even on an 8086 CPU, providing support for large files > (up to 2 GiB) while using minimal amounts of memory." > > http://www.viste-family.net/mateusz/software/uhex/ > > cheers > Mateusz > > -- > Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer > Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 > and get the hardware for free! Learn more. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013 and get the hardware for free! Learn more. http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] more Yahoo! spam (was: Re: no sibject)
On Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:03:15 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 12:57 AM, Rugxulo wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:41 PM, dmccunney >> wrote: >> >>> My usual response to worries about privacy is "You *wish* you were >>> important enough that anyone could be *bothered* to pay that sort of >>> attention to you. You aren't and they don't." >> >> http://www.osnews.com/story/27101/NSA_collects_phone_records_of_all_Verizon_customers_daily > > So? We are discussing email, not phone calls, and I *still* don't > care for the same reasons. I'm not a Verizon customer, but what would > make *my* records of interest to anyone if I were? > __ > Dennis > https://plus.google.com/u/0/105128793974319004519 > http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/the-data-trust-blog/2009/02/debunking-a-myth-if-you-have-n.html Aside from that, web-based email interfaces suffer in the usability department compared to a decent email program anyway. -- How ServiceNow helps IT people transform IT departments: 1. A cloud service to automate IT design, transition and operations 2. Dashboards that offer high-level views of enterprise services 3. A single system of record for all IT processes http://p.sf.net/sfu/servicenow-d2d-j ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] [super long subject line]
On Tue, 25 Jun 2013 18:45:45 -0400, kurt godel wrote: > ... My first question is, what OS is currently installed on your machine? Second, can it boot from LAN? If you are trying to install Linux from Windows you should look into a thing called wubi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer) I have a bunch of PCs with neither floppy nor optical drives, and installing multiple OSs is still doable although it can get complicated. -- This SF.net email is sponsored by Windows: Build for Windows Store. http://p.sf.net/sfu/windows-dev2dev ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS on Amiga BridgeBoard
On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 15:55:45 -0400, Payton Byrd wrote: > Hello! > > I am trying to setup FreeDOS on a PC BridgeBoard on an Amiga 2000. I > have > MS-DOS 3.3 running fine, but want to upgrade to FreeDOS. I can read 720K > floppies from the Amiga (and copy the files to the BridgeBoard hard drive > partition), and I have a 360K floppy attached to the BridgeBoard. What > is > my best option for getting FreeDOS over to the Amiga/BridgeBoard? > Need more info. I assume your A2000 is not connected to the net or you could just download and extract the archive right? And you don't have another machine that can download it and write to floppies? A serial null-modem cable might be handy in this type of situation. Or a CD-ROM drive connected to your Amiga. -- Learn the latest--Visual Studio 2012, SharePoint 2013, SQL 2012, more! Discover the easy way to master current and previous Microsoft technologies and advance your career. Get an incredible 1,500+ hours of step-by-step tutorial videos with LearnDevNow. Subscribe today and save! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=58041391&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS/V
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 00:36:49 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Matej Horvat > wrote: >> >> ... irrelevant comments by me deleted ... >> >> PS: I just wrote all that and found this: >> >> http://nokonoko365.cocolog-nifty.com/blogfile/freedos/index.html >> >> Is that third party software for Japanese support or what? > > No, according to Chrome's translation, it seems to just be somebody > trying FreeDOS + Windows 3.1 under VirtualPC, nothing more. > The top of the blog page is indeed about running jp win3.1. Below that it talks about adding Japanese support to FD. The link is broken but a google search turns up working links for fdos0138.exe or fdos0138.lzh. With the drivers being loaded in fdconfig.sys it becomes possible to switch between standard character-mapped text mode (needed for running FD EDIT, etc.) and the VGA mode for running Japanese DOS programs. The readme file with the disk image seems to say that the license is GPL "or" freeware (I am not good enough to parse Japanese legalese), and includes an email address for the author minashir...@yahoo.co.jp -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable programming models. Explore techniques for threading, error checking, porting, and tuning. Get the most from the latest Intel processors and coprocessors. See abstracts and register http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=60136231&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] FreeDOS/V
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:22:40 -0500, Rugxulo wrote:
>
> The two main files seem to be (as mentioned) fdos0138.exe (.ZIP sfx of
> .IMA) and jis4pack.lzh (three .fnt files, the first of which is huge,
> presumably only useful with something on the .IMA, perhaps FONTNX.EXE
> ??).
Yes, and they are both downloadable here
http://dos.minashiro.net/freedosvd.html
>
> I still don't understand which encoding, which scripts, etc. are
> supported here. Plus, it's not obvious (to me) which third-party
> programs are supported or whether such support has to be built into
> each by default.
I believe the encoding used is Shift-JIS. Instead of the usual
character-mapped text mode, the display is switched to a bitmapped mode,
the fonts are loaded into memory, and the driver intercepts calls to write
text to the screen and handles drawing the characters itself. 7-bit ASCII
can be written as normal ("half-width" characters), but bytes in the
128-255 range can be combined with the following byte to form a longer
character code. These can represent any of the kana/kanji/etc. and while
they are two bytes long they are also physically twice as wide on the
screen ("full-width" characters).
Once the drivers are installed then for instance, one could use the TYPE
command to display the included readme file and the Japanese characters
would then be displayed properly. Whereas in a normal FreeDOS install,
trying to view the file would result in mojibake (nonsense strings).
I imagine this would allow running any other legacy DOS programs which
were designed to use Shift-JIS. But then, I've never used DOS/V, or any
Japanese DOS programs other than the command-line utilities that are
included with Japanese Windows XP, so I'm not entirely sure. I also don't
know how kanji input (if any) works.
> I don't see any sources, but I know that FreeDOS heavily frowns on
> anything that isn't free/libre (four freedoms). In other words, I
> don't think "freeware", no matter how useful, is good enough to
> mirror. Presumably the mention here of GPL only refers to FreeDOS
> proper stuff (kernel, shell), not the others.
>
> I really am too pessimistic to email the author. If you or someone
> else isn't willing, I could try, but I really doubt it would help any
> of us here very much. And of course I don't speak Japanese, so
I don't know if it is a good candidate for a mirror, but at least anyone
who wants Japanese support in FreeDOS can try it out.
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Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:47:05 -0500, Jack wrote: > > > Opera V7,5, last one that works with Win/NT, and Earthlink dial-up. > Opera 9.25 can work in NT4, I use it all the time. Browsing with javascript disabled prevents most ads from loading. >> And sorry, but *something* has to pay for those "free" services that >> cost actual time and money to provide, and ads are what pay for them. > > My regret is that the Internet was once "free". Now it only offers > MORE damned ads than U.S. Television! The way I look at it, if ISPs hadn't decided to block servers and stop offering hosting to their customers, then there would be more small personal websites like there once were, and less reliance on bloated, ad-laden corporate sites. Sadly, ISPs have effectively a government-granted monopoly here and are free to reduce service and increase prices all they want, as well as trying to extort third party content providers that compete with their own content. Personally I feel no obligation to look at ads just because somebody decided it would be part of their business model. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sat, 07 Dec 2013 23:29:14 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > BTW, NT 4.0 (1996?) didn't support either of those NT4 does support LFNs. It supports FAT12/16 and NTFS out of the box, and with a patched system file it will support FAT32 also (same goes for NT3.51) > > The service packs are free, but the full releases are not. Admittedly, > it's not that cheap anymore (something like $199 upgrades, on > average??, IIRC), but there's no other choice (if you want to run > modern Windows software). Blame all the developers who refuse to > restrict themselves to a common denominator, so everyone is constantly > having to upgrade the OS just to support userland stuff. Even latest > IE won't run on anything less than Win7. It's not necessarily even the developers' fault, except that they use Microsoft's compiler, and hence Microsoft gets to determine the minimum OS version that things built with their compiler will run on. > But XP is almost dead. XP is still widely used. Who actually still needs support from MS for a 12-year-old product for any reason other than to say they have it (in other words, ass-covering)? Surely if someone has been using it this long then it is getting the job done? > > Yeah, modern computing is a mess. Maybe if we wish really hard, all the folks who have been making such messes will forget about desktop computing in favor of consumer electronics (tablets/phones) and the desktop will become better for it. -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] "LBA" And FreeDOS.
On Sun, 08 Dec 2013 17:13:29 -0500, Rugxulo wrote: > >> It supports FAT12/16 and NTFS out of the box, and >> with a patched system file it will support FAT32 also (same goes for >> NT3.51) > > Is the patch officially part of some service pack or is it third-party? > I checked the site where I found it and it says the author is unknown. http://bearwindows.boot-land.net/winnt351.htm -- Sponsored by Intel(R) XDK Develop, test and display web and hybrid apps with a single code base. Download it for free now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=111408631&iu=/4140/ostg.clktrk ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
On Thu, 15 May 2014 11:30:22 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dale E Sterner > wrote: > >> Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without >> being activated. > > XP on FAT32? > I have always run XP on FAT32 without problems. The only downside in my book is the 4GB file limit. NTFS is overly complicated. -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] (no subject)
On Fri, 16 May 2014 11:29:09 -0400, dmccunney wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 12:31 AM, TJ Edmister > wrote: >> On Thu, 15 May 2014 11:30:22 -0400, dmccunney >> >> wrote: >>> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Dale E Sterner >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without >>>> being activated. >>> >>> XP on FAT32? >> >> I have always run XP on FAT32 without problems. The only downside in my >> book is the 4GB file limit. NTFS is overly complicated. > > What's complicated about it? If you don't use optional capabilities > like compression or encryption, you mostly don't have to do anything > to use it. The aforementioned lack of support among different OS (owing to the complexity of the low-level implementation), as well as incompatibilities between versions of Windows and the filesystem itself (eg. the Win7 installer would crash without explanation when attempting to install on an existing NTFS partition created with an earlier version of Windows) "Links" are problematic. I have seen links to a directory inside its own directory tree. This results in a situation where eg. a DIR /S command runs indefinitely. And the only way I know to remove such a link is with a sector editor. I never liked the idea of file metadata (or alternate data streams, which are possible but not commonly used AFAIK) as they tend to not be preserved when copied to another filesystem, archived, or uploaded. Making a change to file permissions on an NTFS volume involves a minutes-long process of updating the attributes for every individual file affected (just a base Windows install is tens of thousands of files these days) -- "Accelerate Dev Cycles with Automated Cross-Browser Testing - For FREE Instantly run your Selenium tests across 300+ browser/OS combos. Get unparalleled scalability from the best Selenium testing platform available Simple to use. Nothing to install. Get started now for free." http://p.sf.net/sfu/SauceLabs ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] how pass on command line general non-zero bytes to DOS program?
Does holding ALT while typing the ASCII code on the numeric keypad not work under FreeDOS? http://www.irongeek.com/alt-numpad-ascii-key-combos-and-chart.html On Thu, 05 Jun 2014 00:43:09 -0400, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Hi, I need pass general non-ASCII non-zero strings as arguments on > cmdline to DOS program. How can this be done in FreeDOS? > In Linux sh/bash shell I can use construction as $'\xAD\xBC' - but > this not work in FreeDOS command.com. > > Thanks, Franta > > -- > Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book > "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and > their > applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, > this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! > http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech > ___ > Freedos-user mailing list > Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user -- Learn Graph Databases - Download FREE O'Reilly Book "Graph Databases" is the definitive new guide to graph databases and their applications. Written by three acclaimed leaders in the field, this first edition is now available. Download your free book today! http://p.sf.net/sfu/NeoTech ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to install FA511 PCMCIA Network Card
Is there any documentation included with the FA511 driver? Using PCMCIA cards under DOS often required some "socket services" crap to be installed. I had a network card working under DOS on a Toshiba of that era. I'll look in my backups and see if I still have the files and/or config.sys On Sat, 19 Jul 2014 05:41:46 -0400, Christian Imhorst wrote: > Hi, > > I have installed FreeDos 1.1 on my Toshiba Tecra 8000. Now I try to get > my > NETGEAR FA511 32-bit PCMCIA LAN card working. > > I have copied FA511.COM and NET.CFG from the NETGEAR CD-ROM with drivers > to > C:\NWCLIENT together with some files who are needed to start networking. > So > I run LSL.COM from this directory and than I start FA511.COM. The latter > one ends with an error message: > > FA511-DOS-104: No NIC found in the machine. > > I think my PCMCIA slot is not recognized by FreeDOS. What do I need to > get > my PCMCIA card working? > > Hardware is ok because it works with Linux. > > Best regards > Christian -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
Re: [Freedos-user] How to install FA511 PCMCIA Network Card
On Sun, 20 Jul 2014 05:16:01 -0400, Shane wrote: > You need PCMCIA socket services and card services. > These load before the network card drivers. > > Most computers used SystemSoft CardSoft 3.1 for that, but your Toshiba > Tecra 8000 uses a "Toshiba ToPIC-95B" PCMCIA controller which isn't > supported by that version of CardSoft. Toshiba liked to rebrand other manufacturers' chips as their own by changing device IDs and whatnot. It might actually be some Ricoh, CL, or Intel part, although I'm not certain. > There is a Toshiba Card Manager 3.0 at > http://driverzone.com/drivers/toshiba/control/ as pcmcia30.zip. > It appears to be a rebranded PhoenixCard Manager, so if that version > doesn't work you may be able to find a later version of PhoenixCard > Manager. This is dated '94 so it's most likely too old for a Pentium II. In my stuff the only thing I could find was PhoenixCard 4.0a which is dated '96. http://www.hyakushiki.net/junk/busdrv.zip I know I used it on a Pentium I but am not sure if it would work for the OP's system. Cardsoft does sound familiar. Maybe this would work: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS002471 > > One that will work for sure (but it isn't free) is CardWare 7.00 from > APSoft at http://www.tssc.de > A free 14-day trial is available. > > > - - Shane > -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in your enterprise? Index and search up to 200,000 lines of code with a free copy of Black Duck Code Sight - the same software that powers the world's largest code search on Ohloh, the Black Duck Open Hub! Try it now. http://p.sf.net/sfu/bds ___ Freedos-user mailing list Freedos-user@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freedos-user
