Re: ntpd doesn't like ASLR on stable/12 post-r350672

2019-09-06 Thread Harlan Stenn
Hi folks,

It's easy for us to customize the default value for DFLT_RLIMIT_STACK on
a per-version and per-OS basis.  We do this in the "configure" machinery.

The defaults are expected to be "generally sane", and were likely chosen
a relatively long time ago.

What would you like the value(s) to be for what versions of FreeBSD?

H

On 9/5/2019 11:39 PM, Cy Schubert wrote:
> In message  inf
> o>, =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= writes:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm running stable/12 with ASLR enabled in /etc/sysctl.conf:
>>
>> kern.elf64.aslr.enable=1
>> kern.elf64.aslr.pie_enable=1
>> kern.elf32.aslr.enable=1
>> kern.elf32.aslr.pie_enable=1
>>
>> After upgrading to anything after r350672, now at r351450, ntpd 
>> refuses to start at boot.
>>
>> Aug 24 21:25:42  HOSTNAME ntpd[5618]: ntpd 4.2.8p12-a (1): Starti
>> ng
>> Aug 24 21:25:43  HOSTNAME kernel: [406] pid 5619 (ntpd), jid 0, ui
>> d 123: exited on signal 11
>>
>> Disabling ASLR, kern.elf64.aslr.enable=0, before starting ntpd 
>> manually is a workaround, but this is not viable in the long run.
>>
>> I tried changing command="/usr/sbin/${name}" to 
>> command="/usr/bin/proccontrol -m aslr -s disable /usr/sbin/${name}" in 
>> /etc/rc.d/ntpd, but that didn't go well.
> 
> For now, until this can be solved, add this to your rc.conf:
> 
> ntpd_prepend="/usr/bin/proccontrol -m aslr -s disable"
> 
>>
>> Running ntpd through gdb while ASLR was enabled, I narrowed it down to
>> /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntpd.c:1001
>>
>>   ntp_rlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, DFLT_RLIMIT_STACK * 4096, 4096, "4k");
>>
>> which calls /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntp_config.c:5211 and proceeds 
>> to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntp_config.c:5254
>>
>>   if (-1 == getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, &rl)) {
>>
>> Single stepping from this point gave me:
>>
>> 
>>
>> (gdb) s
>> _thr_rtld_set_flag (mask=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_rtld.c:171
>> 171 {
>> (gdb)
>> 176 return (0);
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_
>> rtld.c:115
>> 115 {
>> (gdb)
>> 120 curthread = _get_curthread();
>> (gdb)
>> _get_curthread () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/include/pthread_md.h:97
>> 97  return (TCB_GET64(tcb_thread));
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_
>> rtld.c:121
>> 121 SAVE_ERRNO();
>> (gdb)
>> 124 THR_CRITICAL_ENTER(curthread);
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rwlock_tryrdlock (rwlock=, flags=0) at /usr/src/lib/libth
>> r/thread/thr_umtx.h:192
>> 192 (rwlock->rw_flags & URWLOCK_PREFER_READER) != 0)
>> (gdb)
>> 191 if ((flags & URWLOCK_PREFER_READER) != 0 ||
>> (gdb)
>> 197 while (!(state & wrflags)) {
>> (gdb)
>> 201 if (atomic_cmpset_acq_32(&rwlock->rw_state, state, st
>> ate + 1))
>> (gdb)
>> atomic_cmpset_int (dst=, expect=, src=1) at /us
>> r/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/include/machine/atomic.h:220
>> 220 ATOMIC_CMPSET(int);
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rwlock_tryrdlock (rwlock=, flags=0) at /usr/src/lib/libth
>> r/thread/thr_umtx.h:201
>> 201 if (atomic_cmpset_acq_32(&rwlock->rw_state, state, st
>> ate + 1))
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_
>> rtld.c:127
>> 127 curthread->rdlock_count++;
>> (gdb)
>> 128 RESTORE_ERRNO();
>> (gdb)
>> 129 }
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_clr_flag (mask=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_rtld.c:181
>> 181 {
>> (gdb)
>> 182 return (0);
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_lock_release (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_r
>> tld.c:150
>> 150 {
>> (gdb)
>> _get_curthread () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/include/pthread_md.h:97
>> 97  return (TCB_GET64(tcb_thread));
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rtld_lock_release (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_r
>> tld.c:157
>> 157 SAVE_ERRNO();
>> (gdb)
>> 160 state = l->lock.rw_state;
>> (gdb)
>> 161 if (_thr_rwlock_unlock(&l->lock) == 0) {
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rwlock_unlock (rwlock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_umt
>> x.h:249
>> 249 state = rwlock->rw_state;
>> (gdb)
>> 250 if ((state & URWLOCK_WRITE_OWNER) != 0) {
>> (gdb)
>> 256 if (__predict_false(URWLOCK_READER_COUNT(stat
>> e) == 0))
>> (gdb)
>> 260 URWLOCK_READER_COUNT(state) == 1)) 
>> {
>> (gdb)
>> 259 URWLOCK_READ_WAITERS)) != 0 &&
>> (gdb)
>> 262 state, state - 1))
>> (gdb)
>> 261 if (atomic_cmpset_rel_32(&rwlock->rw_
>> state,
>> (gdb)
>> atomic_cmpset_int (dst=, expect=, src=0) at /us
>> r/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/include/machine/atomic.h:220
>> 220 ATOMIC_CMPSET(int);
>> (gdb)
>> _thr_rwlock_unlock (rwlock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_umt
>> x.h:261
>> 261   

Re: ntpd doesn't like ASLR on stable/12 post-r350672

2019-09-06 Thread Cy Schubert
In message <9b0c95de-2d0e-89b4-32e6-63ec5af72...@nwtime.org>, Harlan Stenn 
writ
es:
> Hi folks,
>
> It's easy for us to customize the default value for DFLT_RLIMIT_STACK on
> a per-version and per-OS basis.  We do this in the "configure" machinery.
>
> The defaults are expected to be "generally sane", and were likely chosen
> a relatively long time ago.
>
> What would you like the value(s) to be for what versions of FreeBSD?
>
> H
>
> On 9/5/2019 11:39 PM, Cy Schubert wrote:
> > In message  .
> > inf
> > o>, =?UTF-8?Q?Trond_Endrest=C3=B8l?= writes:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I'm running stable/12 with ASLR enabled in /etc/sysctl.conf:
> >>
> >> kern.elf64.aslr.enable=1
> >> kern.elf64.aslr.pie_enable=1
> >> kern.elf32.aslr.enable=1
> >> kern.elf32.aslr.pie_enable=1
> >>
> >> After upgrading to anything after r350672, now at r351450, ntpd 
> >> refuses to start at boot.
> >>
> >> Aug 24 21:25:42  HOSTNAME ntpd[5618]: ntpd 4.2.8p12-a (1): Sta
> rti
> >> ng
> >> Aug 24 21:25:43  HOSTNAME kernel: [406] pid 5619 (ntpd), jid 0,
>  ui
> >> d 123: exited on signal 11
> >>
> >> Disabling ASLR, kern.elf64.aslr.enable=0, before starting ntpd 
> >> manually is a workaround, but this is not viable in the long run.
> >>
> >> I tried changing command="/usr/sbin/${name}" to 
> >> command="/usr/bin/proccontrol -m aslr -s disable /usr/sbin/${name}" in 
> >> /etc/rc.d/ntpd, but that didn't go well.
> > 
> > For now, until this can be solved, add this to your rc.conf:
> > 
> > ntpd_prepend="/usr/bin/proccontrol -m aslr -s disable"
> > 
> >>
> >> Running ntpd through gdb while ASLR was enabled, I narrowed it down to
> >> /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntpd.c:1001
> >>
> >>   ntp_rlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, DFLT_RLIMIT_STACK * 4096, 4096, "4k");
> >>
> >> which calls /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntp_config.c:5211 and proceeds 
> >> to /usr/src/contrib/ntp/ntpd/ntp_config.c:5254
> >>
> >>   if (-1 == getrlimit(RLIMIT_STACK, &rl)) {
> >>
> >> Single stepping from this point gave me:
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> (gdb) s
> >> _thr_rtld_set_flag (mask=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_rtld.c:171
> >> 171 {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 176 return (0);
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/t
> hr_
> >> rtld.c:115
> >> 115 {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 120 curthread = _get_curthread();
> >> (gdb)
> >> _get_curthread () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/include/pthread_md.h:9
> 7
> >> 97  return (TCB_GET64(tcb_thread));
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/t
> hr_
> >> rtld.c:121
> >> 121 SAVE_ERRNO();
> >> (gdb)
> >> 124 THR_CRITICAL_ENTER(curthread);
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rwlock_tryrdlock (rwlock=, flags=0) at /usr/src/lib/li
> bth
> >> r/thread/thr_umtx.h:192
> >> 192 (rwlock->rw_flags & URWLOCK_PREFER_READER) != 0)
> >> (gdb)
> >> 191 if ((flags & URWLOCK_PREFER_READER) != 0 ||
> >> (gdb)
> >> 197 while (!(state & wrflags)) {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 201 if (atomic_cmpset_acq_32(&rwlock->rw_state, state,
>  st
> >> ate + 1))
> >> (gdb)
> >> atomic_cmpset_int (dst=, expect=, src=1) at 
> /us
> >> r/obj/usr/src/amd64.amd64/tmp/usr/include/machine/atomic.h:220
> >> 220 ATOMIC_CMPSET(int);
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rwlock_tryrdlock (rwlock=, flags=0) at /usr/src/lib/li
> bth
> >> r/thread/thr_umtx.h:201
> >> 201 if (atomic_cmpset_acq_32(&rwlock->rw_state, state,
>  st
> >> ate + 1))
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_rlock_acquire (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/t
> hr_
> >> rtld.c:127
> >> 127 curthread->rdlock_count++;
> >> (gdb)
> >> 128 RESTORE_ERRNO();
> >> (gdb)
> >> 129 }
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_clr_flag (mask=1) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_rtld.c:181
> >> 181 {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 182 return (0);
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_lock_release (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/th
> r_r
> >> tld.c:150
> >> 150 {
> >> (gdb)
> >> _get_curthread () at /usr/src/lib/libthr/arch/amd64/include/pthread_md.h:9
> 7
> >> 97  return (TCB_GET64(tcb_thread));
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rtld_lock_release (lock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/th
> r_r
> >> tld.c:157
> >> 157 SAVE_ERRNO();
> >> (gdb)
> >> 160 state = l->lock.rw_state;
> >> (gdb)
> >> 161 if (_thr_rwlock_unlock(&l->lock) == 0) {
> >> (gdb)
> >> _thr_rwlock_unlock (rwlock=0x80180d200) at /usr/src/lib/libthr/thread/thr_
> umt
> >> x.h:249
> >> 249 state = rwlock->rw_state;
> >> (gdb)
> >> 250 if ((state & URWLOCK_WRITE_OWNER) != 0) {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 256 if (__predict_false(URWLOCK_READER_COUNT(s
> tat
> >> e) == 0))
> >> (gdb)
> >> 260 URWLOCK_READER_COUNT(state) == 1)) 
> >> {
> >> (gdb)
> >> 259 URWLOCK_READ_WAITERS)) != 0 &&
> >> (gdb)
> >> 262