Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-03-15 Thread Oliver Brandmueller
Hi,

first of all: thanx for writing svnup! I installed it from ports and 
this is just way better than the situation before!

On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 09:11:28PM -0500, John Mehr wrote:
> I always thought csup did delete files.  I was looking at 
> csup's man page for things to put on the to-do list and 
> there's a csup command line parameter ( -d ) that puts a 
> limit on the number of files that can be deleted in a 
> given run.  Adding this feature is already on my to-do 
> list, and I've just added another item to let the user 
> choose whether svnup should delete extra files in the 
> local source tree.

While I find it OK to delete old files from the source tree, in some 
directories this is a bit disturbing, namely when it comes to deleting 
my kernel config files. So an option to exclude certrain directories (or 
a config file for that) would be great. A default config should then 
include /usr/src/sys/*/conf for exclusion from the delete-policy or it 
should simply not delete files, that svn-wise have never been there.

Thanx,
Oliver

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Re: svn - but smaller?

2013-03-15 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:11:28 pm John Mehr wrote:
> > And svnup(1) really should mention that any files in the 
> >target tree not 
> > in the repository will be deleted, which was 
> >(explicitly) not the case 
> > with c{,v}sup.  I only lost a few acpi patches that I 
> >think have likely 
> > made it to stable/9 anyway, and it's a test system, but 
> >I was surprised.
> 
> I always thought csup did delete files.  I was looking at 
> csup's man page for things to put on the to-do list and 
> there's a csup command line parameter ( -d ) that puts a 
> limit on the number of files that can be deleted in a 
> given run.  Adding this feature is already on my to-do 
> list, and I've just added another item to let the user 
> choose whether svnup should delete extra files in the 
> local source tree.

csup deletes files that are deleted upstream (so if an svn
commit were to remove a file from the source tree).  It did
not delete files that were locally added (like work/ directories
for port builds, or kernel config files) that were never in
the repository in the first place.

I think that is the approach you probably want to take by default.
That is also how the stock svn client acts.

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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Zoran Kolic
After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120,
I was not able to read temperatures out of the box.
I fetched source for head module and compiled. And
loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is
a bit different.
Best regards

   Zoran

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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Jim Ohlstein
On 3/15/13 12:15 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120,
> I was not able to read temperatures out of the box.
> I fetched source for head module and compiled. And
> loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is
> a bit different.
> Best regards

The module from head "works" for me with an 8120 on 9.1 stable (r247893)
though the results are inconsistent. I am not certain of how useful they
are.

# sysctl hw.model
hw.model: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor

# kldstat | grep amd
 51 0x8183e000 1043 amdtemp.ko

# sysctl -a | grep dev.amdtemp
dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp
dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4
dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset: 0
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 47.7C


Here are results taken at 0.1 second intervals using a shell script:

dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.2C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.0C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.8C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.7C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.0C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.7C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.5C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.8C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.5C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C


and again:

dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.5C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.2C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.0C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.6C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 54.0C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.7C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.3C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.7C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.3C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.1C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.7C
dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.5C

You can see during each series there are sudden increases of over 9C and
almost 13C respectively.

The same effect is seen if I track any of the individual cores with
"dev.cpu.[0-7].temperature". Here's an example with a 9C jump in 0.1 second.

dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.3C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.0C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 40.7C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.8C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.5C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.2C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.8C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.6C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.2C
dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.0C

I don't have hands on access to this box as it's in a datacenter 1000
miles from me, but the techs there had a look and all "seems to be OK".

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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Isaac (.ike) Levy
On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Jim Ohlstein wrote:
> On 3/15/13 12:15 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote:
>> After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120,
>> I was not able to read temperatures out of the box.
>> I fetched source for head module and compiled. And
>> loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is
>> a bit different.
>> Best regards
> 
> The module from head "works" for me with an 8120 on 9.1 stable (r247893)
> though the results are inconsistent. I am not certain of how useful they
> are.
> 
> # sysctl hw.model
> hw.model: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
> 
> # kldstat | grep amd
> 51 0x8183e000 1043 amdtemp.ko
> 
> # sysctl -a | grep dev.amdtemp
> dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
> dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp
> dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4
> dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset: 0
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 47.7C
> 
> 
> Here are results taken at 0.1 second intervals using a shell script:
> 
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C
> 
> 
> and again:
> 
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.6C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 54.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.5C
> 
> You can see during each series there are sudden increases of over 9C and
> almost 13C respectively.
> 
> The same effect is seen if I track any of the individual cores with
> "dev.cpu.[0-7].temperature". Here's an example with a 9C jump in 0.1 second.
> 
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.3C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.0C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 40.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.8C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.2C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.8C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.6C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.2C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.0C
> 
> I don't have hands on access to this box as it's in a datacenter 1000
> miles from me, but the techs there had a look and all "seems to be OK".



I get the same problem as Zoran's original post.

My issue, after enabling the kernel module in loader.conf and rebooting, I 
don't see the temperature sysctl values.
Fresh 9.1-REL, amd64 (ISO Image, not yet updated from 9.1-REL head)

AMD A8-5500 CPU, full dmesg can be found here:
http://www.nycbug.org/?action=dmesgd&dmesgid=2450

I was thinking of compiling-in "device amdtemp" this weekend- anyone know of 
anything else I can do to help provide a clear and easily reproducible test 
case?

Best,
.ike


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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Isaac (.ike) Levy
On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Isaac (.ike) Levy wrote:
> I get the same problem as Zoran's original post.

On Mar 13, 2013, at 6:45 AM, Peter Ankerstål wrote:

> On 03/13/2013 11:16 AM, Milan Obuch wrote:
> 
>> 
>> you need to try amdtemp.c from CURRENT aka HEAD. I did it for both
>> E-350 and C-60 CPU and it works for me. If you need something more to
>> test it, I can help, but it is really easy.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Milan
>> 
> 
> Thanks! That worked nicely!
> 
> Regards,
> Peter


Apologies, please disregard my post:

I recently started filtering to be sure to read freebsd-stable@, I did not know 
that stable@ was also aliased to this list.

Therefore, I only saw a couple posts, yet missed all the actual thread.

Best,
.ike


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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Zoran Kolic
I've tried all variants, except following stable. I was
sure the problem is in amdtemp, not in base.
However, "hand measurement" works just fine. I put my
hand behind the node and feel cold air, coming from the
fans on fractal design 3000 case. At the moment, compiling
luakit port, I experienced full cpu usage. The port was
stale, so I picked newer source and got failing application.
Nothing to do with temp measurement, but someone might
be interesting in low memory consumption and fast browser.
Openbsd version works perfect on another box.
Best regards

   Zoran

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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 03:16:19PM -0400, Jim Ohlstein wrote:
> On 3/15/13 12:15 PM, Zoran Kolic wrote:
> > After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120,
> > I was not able to read temperatures out of the box.
> > I fetched source for head module and compiled. And
> > loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is
> > a bit different.
> > Best regards
> 
> The module from head "works" for me with an 8120 on 9.1 stable (r247893)
> though the results are inconsistent. I am not certain of how useful they
> are.
> 
> # sysctl hw.model
> hw.model: AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor
> 
> # kldstat | grep amd
>  51 0x8183e000 1043 amdtemp.ko
> 
> # sysctl -a | grep dev.amdtemp
> dev.amdtemp.0.%desc: AMD CPU On-Die Thermal Sensors
> dev.amdtemp.0.%driver: amdtemp
> dev.amdtemp.0.%parent: hostb4
> dev.amdtemp.0.sensor_offset: 0
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 47.7C
> 
> Here are results taken at 0.1 second intervals using a shell script:
> 
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 42.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 50.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 49.2C
> 
> 
> and again:
> 
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.5C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.2C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 40.8C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.6C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 41.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 54.0C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 53.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.3C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 52.1C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.7C
> dev.amdtemp.0.core0.sensor0: 51.5C
> 
> You can see during each series there are sudden increases of over 9C and
> almost 13C respectively.
>
> The same effect is seen if I track any of the individual cores with
> "dev.cpu.[0-7].temperature". Here's an example with a 9C jump in 0.1 second.
> 
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.3C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 41.0C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 40.7C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.8C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.5C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 49.2C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.8C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.6C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.2C
> dev.cpu.3.temperature: 48.0C
> 
> I don't have hands on access to this box as it's in a datacenter 1000
> miles from me, but the techs there had a look and all "seems to be OK".

1. While it's certainly possible the DTS reading routines and/or the
calculation formulas may be wrong in amdtemp(4), possibly for your model
of CPU, it is also certainly possible that what you're seeing is normal
and fully justified.  This is especially the case for the
dev.cpu.X.temperature nodes on the K8 family.

Respectfully, not combatively nor dismissively: you've not provided a
comparison base to prove there's an issue.  You would need to provide
data from Linux (I forget what daemon/tool they have to get this) or
Windows (Core Temp).

2. I have a gut feeling I know what may be causing what you're seeing,
but I need you to provide verbatim the shell script you're using.

3. Why has no one CC'd the driver maintainers nor individuals who have
committed/touched this driver?  Those people are:

Jung-uk KIM 
Rui Paulo 
Norikatsu SHIGEMURA 

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Re: amdtemp does not find my CPU.

2013-03-15 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Zoran Kolic wrote this message on Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 17:15 +0100:
> After I installed 9.1 amd64 on node with amd 8120,
> I was not able to read temperatures out of the box.
> I fetched source for head module and compiled. And
> loaded module. Still nothing. I assume my cpu is
> a bit different.

Have you tried loading the module at boot time w/ loader.conf?  I
was just looking at one of my machines that should be supported by
amdtemp, but hostb had already attached to it:
hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x16031022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'Family 15h Processor Function 3'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI

I haven't done this yet, as my other machine that isn't in production
isn't supported by amdtemp, but looks like it may suffer the same issue:
hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x14031022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'Family 15h (Models 10h-1fh) Processor Function 3'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI

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