FreeBSD binary upgrade / gmirror

[rihad]

I have a FreeBSD 5.3 box and its two HDD's are setup as one GEOM mirror 
unit /dev/mirror/gm0 (c.f. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/). Now 
Now I want to do a binary upgrade to FreeBSD 5.4, but the new 
sysinstall's disklabel editor only recognizes the IDE disks and does not 
consider the GEOM mirror (mentioned in /etc/fstab, btw). How do I go 
about this? Thanks.

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Re: new FreeBSD-webpage

[Brad Knowles]

At 11:02 AM +1000 2005-10-08, jonathan michaels wrote:


 i've offten made (tried to) point that if you make a page accessible to
 a disabled peron that all teh (so called) not so disabled people will
 find the pages far easier to use and a sight more easier on teh eye.


	I've felt this way for a long time.  I am not disabled myself, 
but I've known some people who are, and I've seen some of the things 
that they've had to deal with.  Generally speaking, if you can make 
something easy enough for them to use, then it's easier for everyone 
else to use, too.


	But then, I guess I'm the choir that you're preaching to.  The 
problem is that we need to convince the rest of the world.



 i've always laboured in teh view that the internet is supposed to be an
 inclusive medium .. not teh now rapidly becoming devisively exclusive
 LogIn/JoinHere/SignUpNow/GetYourAutherisedId etc etc etc kind of space
 exclusionary sphere/space/world/system and so on on on.


	Yup.  And stupid crap like JavaScript and Flash tend to be more 
exclusive.  And everyone and their friggin' brother seems to want to 
make their website dependant on these kinds of technologies.


	I think maybe we need a few more ADA lawsuits filed against 
companies (and other organizations) for the crimes they are 
committing with their websites.


--
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temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

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Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

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Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

[Julien Gabel]

>> My gigabit nic has gone bad (after months of working just fine  it's
>> saying "sk0 watchdog timeout" after a day or so of operation - temp
>> fix is to reboot) - I'm looking for pointers for a low cos but
>> functional gigabit PCI 32 card that runs under 5.4 without issues.
>> What works for you?

> Cards using the RealTek 8169S chipset are cheap (~10 Euro) and are
> working without a problem here.

Sorry, but it seems there is some problem with this one.  You can check
the PR database for `if_re' and found kern/68514 or kern/84584.  In
particular, i want to point you to mine: kern/80005.  This problem is
encountered from ~2 year now and was reported to me, privately, by
one other user last week.

-- 
-jpeg.

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Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

[Mike Jakubik]

On Sat, October 8, 2005 7:43 am, Julien Gabel wrote:
>>> My gigabit nic has gone bad (after months of working just fine  it's
>>> saying "sk0 watchdog timeout" after a day or so of operation - temp fix
>>> is to reboot) - I'm looking for pointers for a low cos but functional
>>> gigabit PCI 32 card that runs under 5.4 without issues. What works for
>>> you?

The Intel gigabit cards are quite good, 'man em' for details. As a second
choice, i would look in to a Broadcom based card, 'man bge' for that one.


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Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

[Naseem A. Choudhury]

We have had problems with BGE, but have had good luck with intel FXP and EMO, 
but they are expensive.

-naseem


 -Original Message-
From:   Mike Jakubik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Sat Oct 08 08:31:46 2005
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject:Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

On Sat, October 8, 2005 7:43 am, Julien Gabel wrote:
>>> My gigabit nic has gone bad (after months of working just fine  it's
>>> saying "sk0 watchdog timeout" after a day or so of operation - temp fix
>>> is to reboot) - I'm looking for pointers for a low cos but functional
>>> gigabit PCI 32 card that runs under 5.4 without issues. What works for
>>> you?

The Intel gigabit cards are quite good, 'man em' for details. As a second
choice, i would look in to a Broadcom based card, 'man bge' for that one.


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Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

[Mike Jakubik]

On Sat, October 8, 2005 1:13 pm, Naseem A. Choudhury wrote:
> We have had problems with BGE, but have had good luck with intel FXP and
> EMO, but they are expensive.

You get what you pay for.

P.S. Please don't top post on a mailing list.


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Minor Heads Up: rm(1) MFCed

[Doug Barton]

Howdy,

This is just a quick heads up to let y'all know that I've MFCed src/bin/rm
through RELENG_[456], so the code in all 3 branches is now equivalent to
that in HEAD. I have tested these changes on all 4 branches, so I don't
expect there to be any problems, but if there are, please mail this list and
myself ASAP and we'll get it sorted out.

Enjoy,

Doug

 Original Message 
Subject: cvs commit: src/bin/rm Makefile rm.1 rm.c
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 17:46:12 + (UTC)
From: Doug Barton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

dougb   2005-10-08 17:46:12 UTC

  FreeBSD src repository

  Modified files:(Branch: RELENG_4)
bin/rm   Makefile rm.1 rm.c
  Log:
  MFC through rm.c 1.53, rm.1 1.38, and Makefile 1.18.

  This includes the recent change to improve handling of the -P flag
  on read-only files, addition of the -I option for better handling
  of recursive deletes, a test for removal of / in the argument list,
  removal of clause 3 from the BSD license, some small code cleanups,
  and related mdoc and comment changes and improvements.

  The Makefile change removes a spurious SRCS=, and WARNS?=

  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.12.2.3  +1 -3  src/bin/rm/Makefile
  1.19.2.7  +37 -26src/bin/rm/rm.1
  1.29.2.6  +129 -28   src/bin/rm/rm.c

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/rm/Makefile.diff?&r1=1.12.2.2&r2=1.12.2.3&f=h
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/rm/rm.1.diff?&r1=1.19.2.6&r2=1.19.2.7&f=h
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/bin/rm/rm.c.diff?&r1=1.29.2.5&r2=1.29.2.6&f=h

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Re: Good, stable gigabit nic?

[Garrett Wollman]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

>My gigabit nic has gone bad (after months of working just fine  it's
>saying "sk0 watchdog timeout" after a day or so of operation - temp
>fix is to reboot) - I'm looking for pointers for a low cos but
>functional gigabit PCI 32 card that runs under 5.4 without issues.  
>What works for you?

I have machines with Tigon II (ti), Marvell 88E8001 (sk), i82540 (em),
RTL8169 (re), and BCM5750 (bge) interfaces.  The only ones I've ever
had problems with were the Tigon and Marvell, and the latter was fixed
nearly a year ago.  All except the Tigon and Broadcom are running
under 5-STABLE; the Broadcom is running 6.0b5.

I can't comment on the Level I, Nominal Semidestructor, or VIA chips
as I've never seen any.

-GAWollman

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Website accessability issues (was Re: new FreeBSD-webpage)

[Murray Stokely]

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 11:48:59AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
>   I think maybe we need a few more ADA lawsuits filed against 
> companies (and other organizations) for the crimes they are 
> committing with their websites.

Indeed.  We have committers with all sorts of disabilities (including
blindness) and so keeping the site fully accessible serves our own
internal needs as well as those of our users.

The new site continues the move away from HTML 3.2 era visual tags
that we've been working on for several years.  It is supposed to be
more accessible than the old site.  If there are regressions then
please post them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can fix them.

 - Murray
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Re: Website accessability issues (was Re: new FreeBSD-webpage)

[jonathan michaels]

On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 11:13:33AM -0700, Murray Stokely wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 08, 2005 at 11:48:59AM +0200, Brad Knowles wrote:
> > I think maybe we need a few more ADA lawsuits filed against 
> > companies (and other organizations) for the crimes they are 
> > committing with their websites.
> 
> Indeed.  We have committers with all sorts of disabilities (including
> blindness) and so keeping the site fully accessible serves our own
> internal needs as well as those of our users.

if that is the case then why is teh freebsd website as it is now so
disabled hostile ?

i've asked several people that i know who have different parts of thier
bodies and brains damaged to mine and every one of them to a man (and
two women) all, and independantly, berate teh bew version as being
various degrees of uslessness from hostile to bearly usable.

seveeral of these garbage (me included in this identifier) can warriors
(we are all anti pc speak and do so at every opportunity so i am
speaking/describing us with there permission .. for teh simple minded
pc types) use old ibm pc's (real ibm pc intel 386sx cpu with 8/16 mb
dram) have tried to use the site with text to speach software ranging
from lynx on pc dos v6.0 and v7.0 and a novell dos v6 from memory. also
several gui products using (integrated gui) operating systems ms
windows nt v3.51 and v4.0, beos, GEM (very disabled person friendly,
pity thier is no support anymore) several gnu/linux (debian) iterations  
and of cource various bsds ... we are an informal group that tries to
find a usable solution that we can all share and build a good stagle
reliable package that will enable us to have a 'blind fredie' type
operating system that requires no thinking as we confrence call to
discuss project issues and not have to worry/consentrate on our fingers
falling over operating system 'troubles'.

this actually is a position that all users of an operating system
package should be able to get into fairly quickly and relatively
easily. again if us disabled guinea pigs crash test dummies can achieve
this then the so called not disabled "intelligent" endusers should be
able to make a cake walk of off it well this is the conclusion we (us
peer reviewers) have reached over some 20 or more years of on and off
research.
 
> The new site continues the move away from HTML 3.2 era visual tags
> that we've been working on for several years.  It is supposed to be

the addition of java, javascript and some odd xml that for the time
being lynx just (graciously) steps over, fortunately for me (us text
console users, hampered or not).

> more accessible than the old site.  If there are regressions then
> please post them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so we can fix them.

is this going to be the usual humilliate teh messenger because we
cannot speak/type the american english like a native  yes, i do
have dificulties with english and americam varietal being teh most
significant, could be because it changes so quickly and diferentially.
as well thier are issues with oclour blindness (different from the
usual red/green male eyes variety) dsylexia and damaged neurology. as
to why i and those like me do not use the available spelling checkers,
simple they are american based algorithms with dictionaries that spell
most of teh simple words that we use incoreectly and the superposition
of z for s is most silly as far as we are concerntde, it is most
difficult to understand and hence to use correctly and makes using teh
freebsd (and all american sourced/developed/uiltb) websites awkward to
say teh least.

ok, this is my honest and open opinion given the things that most
significanly impact this disabled man with his journey through the
freebsd web site.
 
well the balls in yor court now lets see what happens this time. i am
prepared to face being treated the way i was on several ocasions over
the years that i have been a freebsd user in an attempt to try to
communicate in as damaged a manner as i cam. i don't have much
programing skills any more, i don't have any disposable income to buy
cd's et al all that i can do is to communicate as best as i can that
teh website is hard if not impossible to use for if not disabled people
as a whole then at least this (attempting to vocalise the issues most
as best as i can inspite of teh in teh past most hostile responce) time
inspite of my history of much anxiety, fear but inspite i am prepared
to make teh best of it so that other people like me can find the same
level and freedom that is afforded when the person finally gets usable
tools that grants them the ability to be able to communicate freely and
to not have thier damaged body/mind become the limiting factor in ones
ability to communicate as a free and equal human being.

this might soudn corny but it is teh reason i persist because i am
cogniscient enought to know what it feels like to have this skill
ability taken away from me by loutish boorish bigots who think its
funny to trample on another persns  ...