Re: cvsup with tag=. on src and upgrading (in general)

2003-06-14 Thread Brandon S. Allbery
On Sat, 2003-06-14 at 09:20, Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote:
> "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > No, it means that there are no tag values that are meaningful for
> > ports-all; you need to use tag=. (no tag, meaning retrieve the HEAD)
> 
> "tag=." is not "no tag", it is a magic tag which gives you the top of
> the trunk.  No tag at all gives you the version control files.

I was speaking in terms of CVS tags, not of cvsup's tag=; cvsup's
behavior with respect to tag= had already been described.

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Re: sshd refusing connections problem

2003-06-14 Thread Dag-Erling Smorgrav
Scott Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> sshd regularly stops accepting new connections.  There is never anything
> in the logs.  This time the last connection before sshd stopped taking
> new connections was the user, lets call him "bob" who always manages to
> leave a lot of processes with the title of "sshd: bob [priv] (sshd)".
> Bob currently has 35 of those processes up.

This is an old bug which was fixed on April 7th (four days after 4.8
was released).  Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have been merged to
the 4.8 security branch (which is my fault really).

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Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard

2003-06-14 Thread Siegbert Baude
Hi Chris and Matthew,

   Yes.  I use it to boot my kitchen and office workstations.
   

Ditto here -- kitchen from rack system in the basement.
Computers in the kitchen are good, quiet is good  :-)
 

Are your machines completely diskless then? Which kind of PSU do you use 
then? Some of these low-power external ones? I really would like to get 
rid of every fan in such an EPIA machine. Both because of the sound and 
the possible failure source. With no mechanical parts left inside the 
computer, it should also be robust enough, to be tossen around in the 
kitchen by children.
Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living room, 
but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what about the 
newer chipsets? They should have some hardware acceleration to make life 
easuer for the processor?). Is it possible to pasive cool this one, if 
there is no additional heat source like a harddisk or PSU in the case?

Thanks for sharing your experience here.

Ciao
Siegbert
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Re: cvsup with tag=. on src and upgrading (in general)

2003-06-14 Thread ian j hart
On Saturday 14 June 2003 3:05 am, Richard Schilling wrote:

[snip doco stuff]

>
> I don't have the example cvsup files in /usr/share/examples/cvsup.  Did
> I not install a port?
>
> --Richard Schilling

Anything in /usr/share should be part of the base distro. Ports (mostly) 
install into /usr/local.

IIRC one of the recent releases had these files missing. A full system rebuild 
should fix this, see /usr/src/UPDATING

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Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard

2003-06-14 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:06:18PM +0200, Siegbert Baude wrote:
> Are your machines completely diskless then? Which kind of PSU do you use 
> then? Some of these low-power external ones? I really would like to get 
> rid of every fan in such an EPIA machine. Both because of the sound and 
> the possible failure source. With no mechanical parts left inside the 
> computer, it should also be robust enough, to be tossen around in the 
> kitchen by children.
> Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living room, 
> but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what about the 
> newer chipsets? They should have some hardware acceleration to make life 
> easuer for the processor?). Is it possible to pasive cool this one, if 
> there is no additional heat source like a harddisk or PSU in the case?

Siegbert,

You want one of these babies: http://www.hush-technologies.com/ 1GHz CPU,
totally fanless.  I think this is about the only piece of computer
equipment I've ever seen that I'd be happy to keep on my hi-fi rack :-)
You do pay quite a premium for the fancy heatsink/case though, and I'm not
sure whether they do a complpetely diskless version.

Scott

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Re: cvsup with tag=. on src and upgrading (in general)

2003-06-14 Thread ian j hart
On Saturday 14 June 2003 3:09 am, Richard Schilling wrote:
> As for /usr/local/etc/cvsup, I did create it because the documentation
> used that directory in the examples for CVSup's status files.  I also
> practiced uploading to a non-/usr directory first just to build
> confidence.  I just used that directory because after reading it in the
> documentation I knew I'd remember it.  Changed the base, however to my
> own staging area.
>
>
> Here's the example from the documentation:
>
> #
>
> Putting it all together:
>
> Here is the entire supfile for our example:
>
> *default tag=.
> *default host=cvsup666.FreeBSD.org
> *default prefix=/usr
> *default base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup
> *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
>
> src-all
>
>
> --Richard Schilling
>

So this fetches the src for CURRENT. In your original post you said you wanted 
to "review changes/diffs". This will not allow you to do that because you 
only have a snapshot of the source. To put this another way, you have nothing 
to diff against.

Also forgot to say that the simplest way to fetch a local copy of the 
repository is to install the cvsup-mirror port. Disable its cron job and run 
the update script whenever you need to.

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Re: exact difference between RELENG_4, RELENG_4_5 . . . RELENG_4_8

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Schilling
Awesome.

Thanks folks for all the great explainations.

--Richard



On 2003.06.13 22:31 Matthew D. Fuller wrote:
On Fri, Jun 13, 2003 at 07:16:09PM -0700 I heard the voice of
Richard Schilling, and lo! it spake thus:
> Read the documentation on the meaning of the various 4.X tags, and
am
> not sure what is meant by this:
>
> "The release branch for FreeBSD-4.6 and FreeBSD-4.6.2, used only for
> security advisories and other seriously critical fixes."
>
> Similar descriptions are used for the other RELENG_4_X tags.
>
> If I specify RELENG_4 will cvsup also include RELENG_4_3 to
RELENG_4_8?
ASCII art!

-- RELENG_4
(4.x-STABLE)
\   \
 \   \
  \   \--|--- RELENG_4_8
   \ |
\ 4.8-RELEASE
 \--|- RELENG_4_7
|
   4.7-RELEASE
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Re: Via EPIA Mini-ITX motherboard

2003-06-14 Thread Richard Schilling
Thanks for the link.  I checked out web page.  I'm not familiar with 
the 933 Mhz VIA C3 CPU, VIA CLE266 Chipset.  Do you have any 
information on that?

I've been also looking at some of the cube computers and some of the 
half-size boards at http://www.emj.com

--Richard Schilling

On 2003.06.14 07:55 Scott Mitchell wrote:
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:06:18PM +0200, Siegbert Baude wrote:
> Are your machines completely diskless then? Which kind of PSU do you
use
> then? Some of these low-power external ones? I really would like to
get
> rid of every fan in such an EPIA machine. Both because of the sound
and
> the possible failure source. With no mechanical parts left inside
the
> computer, it should also be robust enough, to be tossen around in
the
> kitchen by children.
> Another possible use would be as multimedia centre in the living
room,
> but I suspect you would need the 1GHz version then (or what about
the
> newer chipsets? They should have some hardware acceleration to make
life
> easuer for the processor?). Is it possible to pasive cool this one,
if
> there is no additional heat source like a harddisk or PSU in the
case?
Siegbert,

You want one of these babies: http://www.hush-technologies.com/ 1GHz
CPU,
totally fanless.  I think this is about the only piece of computer
equipment I've ever seen that I'd be happy to keep on my hi-fi rack
:-)
You do pay quite a premium for the fancy heatsink/case though, and I'm
not
sure whether they do a complpetely diskless version.
	Scott

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cdrom after installing kernel

2003-06-14 Thread Marek Denis
hi all

I have got a little problem- after rebuilding the kernel my CD ROM doesn't work. I 
thought maybe I had commented something necessary (like CD9660), but even if I change 
ident and filename from GENERIC to something other after mount /cdrom I get this error:

"cd9660: /dev/acd0c: Device not configured " (ofcourse I had put cd into the cdrom )
while using GENERIC kernel everything is all right otherwise device can't be 
configured...why


thanks in advance...

marek denis


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Re: sequences or steps of make installworld

2003-06-14 Thread pirat
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 08:40:48AM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 08:40:48 +0300
> From: Ruslan Ermilov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: pirat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: sequences or steps of make installworld
> 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 09:38:35AM +0700, pirat wrote:
> > hi sirs,
> > 
> > a few minutes ago, i made installworld on my other machine but error occur at some 
> > points in between.  at that point of error, i can do a make, make install 
> > manuallyi without any errors.
> > 
> > but i do not know that from that on what the rest are not installed yet.
> > 
> > i have attached a script of make installworld with this mail, an editted one. 
> > any helps and hints are welcome and appreciated.
> > 
> FAQ question.  Check the time on the building and installing systems.
> make(1) is confised to think that it should rebuild some things we
> are not expecting it to do during the "install" phase of the world.
> 

oh yes, you are right.  i have just noticed that the date and time are wrong with that 
machine.  that costs me to re-cvsup and start over from the beginning.

the problem solved.  but i still need to know the real steps of making world.

thanks so much indeed.

> 
> 
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