Re: Compaq dual processor & broken MP table

2001-01-09 Thread Lee Cremeans

On Tue, Jan 09, 2001 at 03:18:21PM +0200, Lauri Laupmaa wrote:
> Hi
> 
> On compaq ML350 dual processor kernel says:
> APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery
> APIC_IO: Broken MP table detected: 8254 is not connected to IOAPIC #0
> intpin 2
> APIC_IO: routing 8254 via 8259 and IOAPIC #0 intpin 0
> 
> Is it some major problem or just annoying message ?

It's just saying it's working around a quirk in the IOAPIC setup. It seems
to be common on Compaqs; I have a ProLiant 800 (dual PPro 200) that gives a
similar message when it boots Linux 2.2. If the machine's working, it's
nothing to worry about.

-lee

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2001-01-09 Thread IMAI Hidetoshi

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Weird files in root

2001-01-09 Thread Erich Zigler

For some resaon this keeps appearing in /

   0 lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel   10 Jan  9 14:49 ttyv0 -> /dev/ttyv0

Anyone know why?

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Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware?

2001-01-09 Thread Chad R. Larson

As I recall, Vivek Khera wrote:
> It isn't connected.  Note the "media" line as compared to the output
> of mine:
> 
> [onceler]% ifconfig fxp0
> fxp0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
> inet 208.184.13.196 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 208.184.13.255
> ether 00:e0:18:ac:14:21 
> media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active
> supported media: autoselect 100baseTX  100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 
> 10baseT/UTP

I've been having an off-line conversation with David Kelley about this.
I believe the behavior of displaying the media type selected in the
probe output started in the 3.5-RELEASE, and this system is a
2.2.8-RELEASE.

I found in /sys/src/pci/if_fxp.c that there is an IOCTL (SIOCGIFMEDIA)
that should do the trick with just a small C wrapper program...

> Is the link light on the card on or off?  There should also be a
> 10/100 light that is on for 100baseT (full or half).

Link and 100meg is on on both the NIC and the hub.  If I trust the
Ethernet hardware to properly report what it negotiated (and no reason
not to), we got the 100Mbit.  No way to know for sure about FDX/HDX.

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gif & faith needed?

2001-01-09 Thread Kal Torak

Hiyas,

I am just wondering if gif and faith pseudo devices are needed for
anything? (Besides IPv6 stuff)
And what they are for...


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Re: Repeated panic in 4.2-stable

2001-01-09 Thread Matt Dillon

( I think -stable will be interested in this so I'm including -stable
in the thread )

--> TO EVERYONE RUNNING STABLE!!!   Do not use a filesystem
block size greater then 16384.  8192 is ok, 16384 should be ok.  Anything
bigger will hit this bug.


:Yes.  PR 20609, assigned to you for some time.
:
:> The buffer map is a system map, right?  Which means it allocates
:> map_entry elements out of kmapentzone, which is a ZONE_INTERRUPT zone,
:> which can't block.
:
:No.  It is not a system map.  It should be a system map.
:
:> There is a vm_object_allocate() call, which uses a non-interrupt zone,
:> but I don't think it applies to buffer-cache buffers.  Buffer cache
:> buffer KVM is not backed by arbitrary VM objects.
:
:_vm_map_clip_end() and _vm_map_clip_start() calls vm_object_allocate()
:if the entry being split has no object.  So it certainly applies to
:the buffer cache buffers due to vm objects incorrectly being allocated
:for buffer map entries.
:
:- Tor Egge

Yes, well, there are two dozen PR's assigned to me... sometimes I
loose track :-)  Grr.  You know what Tor, your mail from middle of
last year is *still* in my inbox!

Ok, I'll look into it and not forget this time.  The patch you include
in the PR seems reasonable after a quick look.

The VFS/BIO subsystem never calls vm_map_simplify_entry() or
vm_map_lookup(), which means that as long as the filesystem block
size does not exceed the buffer cache KVM granularity the clipping
routines will never be called.

The buffer cache KVM granularity is 16384 bytes.  So as long as one
does not use a block size greater then 16384 bytes it should be 
reasonably safe (we still have to fix this, of course, I'm trying
to diagnose the likelyhood of a problem for people using standard
block sizes).  A block size of exactly 16384 bytes should work fine.

It looks like with the above stricture, the only exposed hole is the
vm_map_entry allocation routine.  If we block there it is possible
for a second entry in the VFS/BIO subsystem to allocate the same 
KVM address range and create a second buffer sharing the same backing
memory.

(Side note:  If bitmap blocks exceed 16384K, this could cause serious
filesystem corruption.  I'm not sure whether this is possible or not
but it's something to think about.  It could be related to why 
filesystems with extreme newfs parameters seems to have more then
their fair share of problems).

I will say that of course we have to fix this bug, but in the
current released systems there is virtually no chance of zalloc()
blocking due to the low memory deadlock fixes I put in after christmas.
So as long as people are not using a filesystem block size larger
then 16384 bytes I think their systems will be fine.

This is a great example of how fragile code can wind up in a relatively
stable system with no alarm bells ringing.

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Re: gif & faith needed?

2001-01-09 Thread Domas Mituzas



On Wed, 10 Jan 2001, Kal Torak wrote:

> Hiyas,
> 
> I am just wondering if gif and faith pseudo devices are needed for
> anything? (Besides IPv6 stuff)
> And what they are for...
> 

You've mentioned the reason for those devices. If you're more deep into
IPv6, you'll find they're used for tunneling. And if you wish to use just
ipv4 for one month more, you dont need this.

Domas



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cvsup12 out of sync ?

2001-01-09 Thread Mike Tancsa


Is cvsup12 really out of sync? I installed a snap from today, did a cvsup 
to get a few extra commits from this afternoon and

  Checkout src/sys/conf/files
  Checkout src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac.c
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_compat.h
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_debug.c
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_disk.c
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_ioctl.h
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_pci.c
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aac_tables.h
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aacreg.h
  Delete src/sys/dev/aac/aacvar.h
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_freebsd.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_inline.h
  Checkout src/sys/i386/conf/LINT
  Delete src/sys/modules/aac/Makefile
  Checkout src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c
  Checkout src/sys/netgraph/ng_message.h
  Checkout src/sys/netgraph/ng_rfc1490.c
  Checkout src/sys/sys/syslog.h
  SetAttrs src/usr.bin/lex/mkskel.sh,v
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/ngctl/Makefile
  Delete src/usr.sbin/ngctl/config.c
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/ngctl/main.c
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/ngctl/ngctl.8
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/ngctl/ngctl.h
  SetAttrs src/usr.sbin/pkg_install/tkpkg,v
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c
Shutting down connection to server
Finished successfully


compared to cvsup11
  Edit src/sys/conf/files
   Add delta 1.340.2.43 2001.01.09.01.01.46 scottl
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_compat.h
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_debug.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_disk.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_ioctl.h
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_pci.c
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aac_tables.h
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aacreg.h
  Checkout src/sys/dev/aac/aacvar.h
  Edit src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c
   Add delta 1.41.2.13 2001.01.09.00.46.53 gibbs
  Edit src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_freebsd.c
   Add delta 1.3.2.13 2001.01.09.00.46.55 gibbs
  Edit src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx_inline.h
   Add delta 1.2.2.6 2001.01.09.00.46.55 gibbs
  Edit src/sys/i386/conf/LINT
   Add delta 1.749.2.41 2001.01.09.01.03.31 scottl
  Checkout src/sys/modules/aac/Makefile
  Edit src/sys/netgraph/ng_base.c
   Add delta 1.11.2.8 2001.01.09.06.52.20 phk
  Edit src/sys/netgraph/ng_message.h
   Add delta 1.4.2.4 2001.01.09.06.52.20 phk
  Edit src/sys/netgraph/ng_rfc1490.c
   Add delta 1.6.2.3 2001.01.09.00.52.45 julian
  Edit src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h
   Add delta 1.47.2.4 2001.01.09.18.11.40 rwatson
  Edit src/sys/netinet/tcp.h
   Add delta 1.13.2.1 2001.01.09.18.20.22 rwatson
   Add delta 1.13.2.2 2001.01.09.18.25.18 rwatson
  Edit src/sys/sys/syslog.h
   Add delta 1.19.2.1 2001.01.09.06.51.34 phk
  Edit src/sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_disksubr.c
   Add delta 1.44.2.1 2001.01.09.12.26.17 phk
  Edit src/usr.sbin/ngctl/Makefile
   Add delta 1.4.2.1 2001.01.09.06.52.25 phk
  Checkout src/usr.sbin/ngctl/config.c
  Edit src/usr.sbin/ngctl/main.c
   Add delta 1.4.2.3 2001.01.09.06.52.25 phk
  Edit src/usr.sbin/ngctl/ngctl.8
   Add delta 1.5.2.3 2001.01.09.06.52.25 phk
  Edit src/usr.sbin/ngctl/ngctl.h
   Add delta 1.6.2.2 2001.01.09.06.52.25 phk
  Edit src/usr.sbin/syslogd/syslogd.c
   Add delta 1.59.2.4 2001.01.09.06.51.37 phk
Shutting down connection to server
Finished successfully

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Re: Weird files in root

2001-01-09 Thread Ben Smithurst

Erich Zigler wrote:

> For some resaon this keeps appearing in /
> 
>0 lrwxr-xr-x   1 root  wheel   10 Jan  9 14:49 ttyv0 -> /dev/ttyv0
> 
> Anyone know why?

Probably /etc/rc.devfs combined with a /dev/vga symlink pointing at
nothing.  Not sure how that broken symlink got there, but it was there
on three of my machines.. :-/

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Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware? (Update)

2001-01-09 Thread David Kelly

Bert Driehuis writes:
> "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" wrote:
> 
> > My conclusion is that the Intel cards I have are broken. They refuse to
> > work reliably in an otherwise healthy low-end network. I may have a bad
> > batch or maybe these cards are broken by design.
> 
> It is possible your motherboard vendor screwed up:
> 
>   http://developer.intel.com/design/support/faq/82559.htm
> 
> Apparently, some motherboard vendors let boards go out with wrong wiring
> or capacitors (see the bottom of the page), and the symptoms match yours
> (which, I must stress, may very well be a coincidence).

If I'm following correctly Jeroen's problem is with genuine Intel 
Etherexpress Pro boards with the '59 chip. Not with an integrated 
chipset as discussed in the above URL.

Intel offers an interesting diagnostic suggestions: if it doesn't 
work with a short wire, try a long wire.

Suspect Jeroen's most timely solution is to permanently replace his
cards with something else. Altho he makes mention of a PCI riser card
which may alter the electrical reference the Intel card has to work
against. Am also thinking the computer power supply, or clock frequency
can be part of the problem. Or part of the solution. Wonder if
underclocking the system would make any differnce?

Have seen unreliable computers fixed by replacing the PS. And this was 
before CPU's started running off of anything other than plain old 5V.

As for non-Intel ethernet cards, 3 or 4 years ago when I first got to 
play with fast ethernet, found by accident that a 3Com card connected 
to a 3Com switch was more forgiving of wrongly pairing the cat5 wires 
than anything else connected to the same switch and wire.

IMHO am surprised this sort of thing doesn't happen more often.

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Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware? (Update)

2001-01-09 Thread David Kelly

"Jeroen C. van Gelderen" writes:
> I tried 2 hubs, one claims to be a cheap 8816TPC, the other NetGear DS108. 
> Both give problems. Replacing the Intel card with a 3Com or SMC solves the 
> problem. Of course I've tried multiple cables as well.
> 
> Maybe this is relevant. The DS108 actually is a dual speed hub. IIRC it has 
> a 10 Mbit bus and a 100 Mbit bus, connected with a little switch. The 
> machine I'm testing against has a 10Mbit card. I tried forcing to Intel to 
> 10Mbit and tried to transfer the file. It stalls after a couple of 
> megabytes.

In the same place every time, I hope?

>I then forced the Intel card to 100Mbit mode and tried the 
> transfer again (so it would have to go trough the switching device in the 
> hub); That got me a little further (22 MB) but this transfer too stalled 
> eventually.

Same question, "Fails in the same place each time you try?"

> > Any chance you can capture and/or share the problem data?
> 
> More than willing to, but I'm not sure how to do it most effectively. You 
> just want the tcpdump data? Do I need to give any special arguments to 
> tcpdump?

If its file transfer the easiest thing to do would be to transfer the 
exact same file. But 22 MB into it, sounds like a system backup. 
Ideally if you had a small file which failed with ftp, it would be 
easy for others to attempt to duplicate your failure.

Am far from a tcpdump guru but it would be rough dumping headers and
packets until problems start 22MB of data later. Especially if done on
the same machine as the problem is happening because the tcpdump
processing may be all it takes to clear up the problem. Or make it
worse. Ideally one would only want to dump packets which fail checksum.
So maybe wait to start tcpdump until the transfer stops.

It may be time to "cut bait" and simply accept the Intel cards didn't 
work in your situation and go on with things. Know I'm using an Intel 
card right now (with an AMD CPU :-)  ) but forgot to look and see what 
chip was on it. My other 3 Intel cards are 58's, in other machines.


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Re: Intel PRO/100+ driver or hardware? (Update)

2001-01-09 Thread Parag Patel

On Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:23:01 CST, David Kelly wrote:
>
>Suspect Jeroen's most timely solution is to permanently replace his
>cards with something else. Altho he makes mention of a PCI riser card
>which may alter the electrical reference the Intel card has to work
>against.

I've had lots of trouble with an "L"-style riser card (for 1U cases) and
several different enet and a few other cards.  Got rid of the riser and
things work fine.  I haven't tried an Intel EEPRO in the riser though.


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