Re: URGENT! SHOW STOPPER! moused is broken!

1999-12-17 Thread Nate Williams

> > I am sorry.  A report just came in, and I now have to conclude
> > that the last minutes MFC of moused was ill-conceived.  That supposed
> > improvement on the 3 button emulation actually broke the wheel/roller
> > support in moused ;-< (Moused is now broken in both -CURRENT and
> > -STABLE.)
> 
> Eek.  OK, well, the release just finished this morning after laying
> the tag down tonite but I haven't copied it anywhere yet.  I'll slide
> the tags forward in -stable and start the build over again.  It won't
> result in more than a 6 hour delay and 4 or 5 messages in my mailbox
> wondering where 3.4-RELEASE is. :-)
> 
> Don't worry about it, mistakes happen and we caught this one before
> it became a real problem.

Thanks for doing this Jordan!


Nate


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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Mike Smith once wrote:

> > A machine with  SCSI disks and an ATAPI CD-ROM  (no IDE disks) would
> > not boot  from 3.3 CD  if the SCSI disks  are online. It  would say:
> > "Read Error" on the upper left of the screen -- where you'd normally
> > see the spinning  dash. I suspect, this is a  loader's bug :(, which
> > may make it to 3.4 ...

> This is a bug in your BIOS,  or your configuration of your system. The
> loader is not running at that point; the 'Read Error' message is boot1
> trying to load boot2 and failing, typically  due to a bad value in %dl
> passed by the BIOS.

Well, I figured, it is not the  BIOS, who says "Read Error", but did not
know which part of  the boot process :) I was hoping  to shed some light
on the  problem, that  was reported shortly  after the  3.3RELEASE, when
some people were and some were not  able to boot from their CD-ROMs. May
be this (common?) BIOS' brokennes can be worked around in boot1?

> > The workaround is to disconnect the  SCSI chain at the boot time and
> > connect it back when the /boot/loader gives the prompt -- the kernel
> > will find the disks nicely.
>
> I assume  that the system  boots correctly  from disk once  FreeBSD is
> installed?

Yes.

-mi


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Re: URGENT! SHOW STOPPER! moused is broken!

1999-12-17 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA


I apologize again to anybody who have been waiting for 3.4-RELEASE
for causing this delay.

It was my fault that my last-minute MFC actually broke something.
I will be more cautious in the future.

Sorry.

Kazu

>> Eek.  OK, well, the release just finished this morning after laying
>> the tag down tonite but I haven't copied it anywhere yet.  I'll slide
>> the tags forward in -stable and start the build over again.  It won't
>> result in more than a 6 hour delay and 4 or 5 messages in my mailbox
>> wondering where 3.4-RELEASE is. :-)
>> 
>> Don't worry about it, mistakes happen and we caught this one before
>> it became a real problem.
>
>Thanks for doing this Jordan!


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1999-12-17 Thread Danish A. Qureshi




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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Tom

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Hello!
> 
> This may be a bit late :-|
> 
> A machine with SCSI  disks and an ATAPI CD-ROM (no  IDE disks) would not
> boot from  3.3 CD  if the  SCSI disks  are online.  It would  say: "Read
> Error" on the upper  left of the screen -- where  you'd normally see the
> spinning dash. I suspect,  this is a loader's bug :(,  which may make it
> to 3.4 ...

  Don't see a problem with that here.  I just booted the 3.3-R CD on an
ATAPI CD ROM with no other IDE devices, and everything was fine.



Tom
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1999-12-17 Thread Douglas Denault

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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Tom once stated:

=On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
=
=> Tom once stated:
=> 
=> =On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
=> =
=> => A machine with SCSI disks and an ATAPI CD-ROM (no IDE disks) would
=> => not boot from 3.3  CD if the SCSI disks are  online. It would say:
=> => "Read  Error" on  the  upper left  of the  screen  -- where  you'd
=> => normally see the spinning dash. I  suspect, this is a loader's bug
=> => :(, which may make it to 3.4 ...
=> =
=> =  Don't see a problem with that here.  I just booted the 3.3-R CD on
=> =an ATAPI CD ROM with no other IDE devices, and everything was fine.
=> 
=> Do you have SCSI disks online at the boot time?
=
=  Yes.

Lucky you...  Are the SCSI  disks otherwise bootable?  Is the CD  on the
primary or the secondary IDE channel?

-mi


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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Mike Smith

> Mike Smith once wrote:
> 
> > > A machine with  SCSI disks and an ATAPI CD-ROM  (no IDE disks) would
> > > not boot  from 3.3 CD  if the SCSI disks  are online. It  would say:
> > > "Read Error" on the upper left of the screen -- where you'd normally
> > > see the spinning  dash. I suspect, this is a  loader's bug :(, which
> > > may make it to 3.4 ...
> 
> > This is a bug in your BIOS,  or your configuration of your system. The
> > loader is not running at that point; the 'Read Error' message is boot1
> > trying to load boot2 and failing, typically  due to a bad value in %dl
> > passed by the BIOS.
> 
> Well, I figured, it is not the  BIOS, who says "Read Error", but did not
> know which part of  the boot process :) I was hoping  to shed some light
> on the  problem, that  was reported shortly  after the  3.3RELEASE, when
> some people were and some were not  able to boot from their CD-ROMs. May
> be this (common?) BIOS' brokennes can be worked around in boot1?

No.  The 3.3-RELEASE issue (which was also detailed here) was another 
BIOS bug which prevented the CDROM from being recognised as bootable at 
all.  If your code is never run, you can't 'work around' anything.

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ld.so failed: Can't find shared library..

1999-12-17 Thread Ben WIlliams

   One of the servers I now manage is a 2.2.5-RELEASE server. I
recently tried running cvsup from a shell and got:

ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libset.so.6.0"

   What is libset.so.6.0 a part of? I have also been having difficulty
making the openssh port due to what appears to be a new flag to ld
(--whole-archive) since the birth of this machine.

   What are my upgrade options? This is a production server with
little tolerance for downtime and I haven't been a FreeBSD'er for long
enough to know exactly how to fix these problems.

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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Mikhail Teterin

Mike Smith once stated:

=> Ok... So this is a different  one, then... What information do I need
=> to provide for someone to be able to make a "work around" for _it_?
=
=It's not clear that you can; it's possible that your setup is just "too
=broken" for us.
=
=A good  start would be  to test  some other supposedly  bootable CDROMs
=(W96, NT4.0, RedHat 6.1) and see if they work.

No, I can not afford rebooting this box :( It is a "production" machine.
Only what I can  get during run-time. But it can boot  from the CDROM if
there are no disks attached.

Oh, yeah, the boot disk's SCSI id is set in the adapter's BIOS as 6, and
the second disk has the id 8...

-mi


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RE: ld.so failed: Can't find shared library..

1999-12-17 Thread Will Andrews

On 18-Dec-99 Ben WIlliams wrote:
>One of the servers I now manage is a 2.2.5-RELEASE server. I

This system is excessively old.. you should upgrade it to a newer version, say,
at least 3.1-RELEASE or later.

> recently tried running cvsup from a shell and got:
> 
> ld.so failed: Can't find shared library "libset.so.6.0"

That looks like an a.out library..

>What is libset.so.6.0 a part of? I have also been having difficulty
> making the openssh port due to what appears to be a new flag to ld
> (--whole-archive) since the birth of this machine.

Ports are not really guaranteed to work on any version of FreeBSD other than
the latest -STABLE (and there are exceptions for that) and -CURRENT. Try
upgrading this system to a newer version of FreeBSD.

>What are my upgrade options? This is a production server with
> little tolerance for downtime and I haven't been a FreeBSD'er for long
> enough to know exactly how to fix these problems.

That is understandable. I'd actually guessed it was a production server. You
can minimize downtime by building the 3.x world and then dropping to single
user mode to install the world. However, I've never really tried to upgrade
from 2.2.x to 3.x. I just backup the machine and format and reinstall using 3.x
CDs. 2.x -> 3.x is a HUGE upgrade.. your best bet would be to load balance the
server's services among other servers while you upgrade it. Or to load a copy
of 3.x on a new server, set it up, and transfer sensitive data to the new
server, test it, then when it's ready, take the old one off and put the new one
on.

Sorry, I really can't offer any better ideas without further information.

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Re: URGENT (?) booting from CD on Atapi

1999-12-17 Thread Tom

On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:

> Tom once stated:
> 
> =On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> =
> => Tom once stated:
> => 
> => =On Fri, 17 Dec 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote:
> => =
> => => A machine with SCSI disks and an ATAPI CD-ROM (no IDE disks) would
> => => not boot from 3.3  CD if the SCSI disks are  online. It would say:
> => => "Read  Error" on  the  upper left  of the  screen  -- where  you'd
> => => normally see the spinning dash. I  suspect, this is a loader's bug
> => => :(, which may make it to 3.4 ...
> => =
> => =  Don't see a problem with that here.  I just booted the 3.3-R CD on
> => =an ATAPI CD ROM with no other IDE devices, and everything was fine.
> => 
> => Do you have SCSI disks online at the boot time?
> =
> =  Yes.
> 
> Lucky you...  Are the SCSI  disks otherwise bootable?  Is the CD  on the
> primary or the secondary IDE channel?

  The SCSI disk is bootable in that set in the BIOS to boot (I used "A: CD
C:" boot order), but I don't think it has an OS on it.

  You could just have a boot order issue.  Maybe the SCSI disk has a
screwed up boot sector, and SCSI disk is earlier in the boot order ("A: C:
CD"), so it never gets to the CD.

>   -mi
> 
> 


Tom
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