Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 27/09/2012 07:41, Polytropon wrote:
> Does anyone know if there are already plans to make svn part
> of the base system and integrate it with make, so that one
> can use "make update" (in /usr/src and/or /usr/ports) with
> control files or options (e. g. in /etc/make.conf) to have
> influence on the updating behaviour (if to track RELEASE,
> RELEASE-p, STABLE or HEAD / CURRENT)? In the past,
> the additional package cvsup-without-gui had to be installed
> (like Subversion today) before csup was created and incorporated
> to the OS...
> 
> I'm currently using csup with this approach and would be
> interested if Subversion can provide the same easy interface
> to that kind of functionality.

You can already use subversion with 'make update' -- unless you override
it with settings in /etc/make.conf, the ports or src Makefiles will
detect the presence of a .svn directory and from that automatically
deduce it should use svn to update the respective trees.

Whether svn will ever be incorporated in the base system is a different
question.  As far as I know, there aren't any plans to bring it in at
the moment (BICBW).  Maintaining vendor imports of software from
actively developed projects like SVN in two or more release branches and
head is quite a burden and the tendency recently is to prefer to use the
ports instead.  (Especially considering that SVN has a reasonably large
dependency tree.)

There has been talk of "svnsup" analogous to "csup" and I believe some
work has been done, but no idea what state that project is in, nor if
that would be added to base once it achieves sufficient maturity.

Cheers,

Matthew



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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Alexandre
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Ed Flecko  wrote:
>
> Thank you.
>
> I am using a custom kernel, but you're right - I should have said so.
>
> :-)
>
> Do you have any feedback using subversion? I know I can still use
> csup; I'm basically trying to figure out how to subversion to achieve
> the same result.
>
> Ed

Hi Ed and Polytropon,

Using "freebsd-update" tool does not mean you cannot use a custom
kernel on this machine.
These lines taken from the Handbook confirm this :
[...]
The default is to update the source code, the entire base system, and
the kernel.
[...]
The freebsd-update utility can automatically update the GENERIC kernel
only. If a custom kernel is in use, it will have to be rebuilt and
reinstalled after freebsd-update finishes installing the rest of the
updates. However,freebsd-update will detect and update the GENERIC
kernel in /boot/GENERIC (if it exists), even if it is not the current
(running) kernel of the system.
[...]
Sources : 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

"freebsd-update" tool works only with -RELEASE, you are right.

Best Regards,
Alexandre
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Lars Eighner


If only subversion had some scripts similar to the *-supfile s with cvsup,
including some "first time scripts."

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Re: FreeBSD 8.x sysisntall dists

2012-09-27 Thread Rick Miller
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Devin Teske  wrote:
>
>
> All patched.
>
> http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/240972
>
> Can you test? I'll close the PR upon success.

Success!  Thanks!

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BSD on IOS hardware

2012-09-27 Thread Greg Freeman
Is it possible to load FreeBSD on an Apple Mobile device designed to run IOS?  
There are a lot of old iPads out there.  If we could repurpose them to straight 
Unix pads that might be cool.  From there shells and then maybe an open source 
alternative to IOS or Android.  Maybe a way for people to get free of the info 
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Subversion output: Node remains in conflict ???

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Flecko
When I ran the following command using subversion, here's what I get:

fbsd# svn up /usr/src
Updating '.':
Skipped 'lib' -- Node remains in conflict
Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict
At revision 240997.
Summary of conflicts:
  Skipped paths: 2

fbsd# svn up /usr/ports
Skipped '/usr/ports'
Summary of conflicts:
  Skipped paths: 1

fbsd# cd /usr/ports

fbsd# make fetchindex
/usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1623 kB 4569 kBps

fbsd# pkg_version -l '<'
subversion  <

fbsd#

Can someone tell me what "Node remains in conflict" means and how to I
correct this...or do I need to worry about it at all???

Thank you!

Ed
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Re: LSI 9750-4i (tws based cards)

2012-09-27 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 9/12/2012 3:30 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote:
> Does anyone have any experience with these cards ? We are looking for a
> controller that has a little more gas than the twa based cards which
> have been very reliable and stable for us on FreeBSD.  I dont have any
> experience with 3ware/LSI's cards that use the tws driver.  Has anyone
> used them yet  ?

For the archives...


I ordered a 3ware 9750 4i card to test with and its quite fast!  There
is a small bug in the driver fixed now in HEAD as well as some cosmetic
changes.  But other than that it seems pretty solid.  The same
management interface as the twa and twe based cards.

I ran a test box using a kernel with INVARIANTS and WITNESS with the
card and 4 10k disks in raid 10.  The card seems pretty zippy for the
price.  RW performance does seem to take advantage of the faster disk speeds


0{3w9750}# dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/test bs=1024k count=9000
9000+0 records in
9000+0 records out
9437184000 bytes transferred in 39.859600 secs (236760629 bytes/sec)
0{3w9750}#
0{3w9750}# umount /mnt
0{3w9750}# mount /dev/da0 /mnt
0{3w9750}# dd if=/mnt/test of=/dev/null bs=1024k
9000+0 records in
9000+0 records out
9437184000 bytes transferred in 27.887930 secs (338396720 bytes/sec)
0{3w9750}#

For stress testing, I ran the disk.cfg component of
http://people.freebsd.org/~pho/stress/index.html

as well as random copies of dbench and bonnie as well as periodically
accessing the disk while the stress scripts ran for 72hrs.  The OS was
netbooted, RELENG9 AMD64

0{3w9750}# tw_cli "/c0 show"

Unit  UnitType  Status %RCmpl  %V/I/M  Stripe  Size(GB)  Cache
AVrfy
--
u0RAID-10   OK -   -   256K931.303   RiW
ON

VPort Status Unit Size  Type  Phy Encl-SlotModel
--
p0OK u0   465.76 GB SATA  0   -WDC
WD5002AALX-00J3
p1OK u0   465.76 GB SATA  1   -WDC
WD5002AALX-00J3
p2OK u0   465.76 GB SATA  2   -WDC
WD5002AALX-00J3
p3OK u0   465.76 GB SATA  3   -WDC
WD5002AALX-00J3

0{3w9750}#



For some reason the card defaults legacy interrupts.  Adding
hw.tws.enable_msi=1 to /boot/loader.conf fixes that


LSI 3ware device driver for SAS/SATA storage controllers, version:
10.80.00.003
tws0:  port 0x4000-0x40ff mem
0xc246-0xc2463fff,0xc240-0xc243 irq 17
at device 0.0 on pci2
tws0: Using MSI
tws0: Controller details: Model 9750-4i, 8 Phys, Firmware FH9X
5.12.00.007, BIOS BE9X 5.11.00.006
(probe65:tws0:0:65:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 0 0 0 24 0
(probe65:tws0:0:65:0): CAM status: Invalid Target ID
(probe65:tws0:0:65:0): Error 22, Unretryable error
da0 at tws0 bus 0 scbus0 target 0 lun 0
da0:  Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device
da0: 6000.000MB/s transfers
da0: 953654MB (1953083392 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 121573C)
tws0@pci0:2:0:0:class=0x010400 card=0x000113c1 chip=0x101013c1
rev=0x05 hdr=0x00
vendor = '3ware Inc'
device = '9750 SAS2/SATA-II RAID PCIe'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID
bar   [10] = type I/O Port, range 32, base 0x4000, size 256, enabled
bar   [14] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xc246, size 16384, enabled
bar   [1c] = type Memory, range 64, base 0xc240, size 262144,
enabled
cap 01[50] = powerspec 3  supports D0 D1 D2 D3  current D0
cap 10[68] = PCI-Express 2 endpoint max data 128(4096) link x4(x8)
cap 03[d0] = VPD
cap 05[a8] = MSI supports 1 message, 64 bit enabled with 1 message
ecap 0001[100] = AER 1 1 fatal 0 non-fatal 0 corrected
ecap 0004[138] = unknown 1


In summary, we like the card on FreeBSD.  We make heavy use of the older
3ware cards in our company on various platforms, so our staff are
comfortable using the management tools to swap out dead drives.  We will
probably start to use these cards for customer builds in the future
where they need faster IO.

---Mike



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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Flecko
Thank you all!

I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,

"Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
of the existing hierarchy.

Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
/usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
back into place."

1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
referring to?

2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
replacing new files with the older files?

3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., "downloaded", right?) the current
files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
point forward and not "delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
local files back into place"...Is that right?

Thank you again,
Ed
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Re: FreeBSD 8.x sysisntall dists

2012-09-27 Thread Devin Teske

On Sep 27, 2012, at 5:52 AM, Rick Miller wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Devin Teske  
> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> All patched.
>> 
>> http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/240972
>> 
>> Can you test? I'll close the PR upon success.
> 
> Success!  Thanks!
> 

Excellent! Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:18-0700, Ed Flecko wrote:

> Thank you all!
> 
> I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,
> 
> "Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
> files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
> extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
> of the existing hierarchy.
> 
> Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
> /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
> back into place."
> 
> 1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
> referring to?

First, I may have misread your question. Others have provided far 
better answers to your exact question.

I use my local CVS repo to track changes I make to files I create or 
edit myself, like /etc/rc.conf, 
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/SOMECUSTOMKERNEL, etc.

When I switched from CVSup to Subversion, I let the directory 
/usr/src/sys exist, but only with my own files stored within this 
hierarchy, e.g. my custom kernel configuration file, 
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/ENTERPRISE.

The very existence of the directory /usr/src/sys prohibited Subversion 
from populating the directory /usr/src/sys with the desired contents. 
Thus, I had to delete all files and directories made during the intial 
svn co operation, including the special .svn directory, rename sys to 
sys0 as described in my previous email, redo the svn co operation, and 
finally move my own (custom) files back into place.

Afterwards, it's simply a matter of running svn update to update 
source files from the chosen svn repo, and in my case, check in any 
local changes made to the local CVS repo I use for my configuration 
management.

Maybe me adding CVS to the mix caused or still cause confusion.

> 2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
> check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
> replacing new files with the older files?

I was indirectly referring to local edited files, such as custom 
kernel configuration files. My bad for not making this clearer.

> 3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
> they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., "downloaded", right?) the current
> files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
> point forward and not "delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
> to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
> local files back into place"...Is that right?

True. I had to do the rename and move files dance only once.

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FreeBSD on IBM Power 560

2012-09-27 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Hi, does anyone knows if FreeBSD can be installed on this machine:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/560/

It's
 an PPC (Power6) based machine. Currently it uses OpenSuse 10, but as it
 is a discontinued version, I would like to know if I can replace it 
with a newer version of FreeBSD.
 
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FreeBSD on IBM Power 560

2012-09-27 Thread Leonardo M . Ramé
Hi, does anyone knows if FreeBSD can be installed on this machine:

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/power/hardware/560/

It's an PPC (Power6) based machine. Currently it uses OpenSuse 10, but as it is 
a discontinued version, I would like to know if I can replace it with a newer 
version of FreeBSD.
 
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contributing to the ports collection

2012-09-27 Thread Stuart Matthews

Hi everyone,

After several years of using FreeBSD, I have decided it is time to start 
contributing my time to the project. I have read through the relevant 
page on freebsd.org and intend to look into contributing in a couple of 
the ways listed there. However, my main interest is contributing a port 
to the ports collection.


Specifically, I want to add WordShell (http://wordshell.net/) to the 
FreeBSD ports collection. I want to install it for myself, and I 
generally don't like using software outside of some sort of software 
manager wherein I can keep everything neatly up-to-date.


How would I get started in adding something to the ports collection?

Thanks,
Stu
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Re: Subversion output: Node remains in conflict ???

2012-09-27 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Ed Flecko wrote:


When I ran the following command using subversion, here's what I get:

fbsd# svn up /usr/src
Updating '.':
Skipped 'lib' -- Node remains in conflict
Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict
At revision 240997.
Summary of conflicts:
 Skipped paths: 2

fbsd# svn up /usr/ports
Skipped '/usr/ports'
Summary of conflicts:
 Skipped paths: 1

fbsd# cd /usr/ports

fbsd# make fetchindex
/usr/ports/INDEX-9.bz2100% of 1623 kB 4569 kBps

fbsd# pkg_version -l '<'
subversion  <

fbsd#

Can someone tell me what "Node remains in conflict" means and how to I
correct this...or do I need to worry about it at all???


Usually it means you are trying to run svn on a directory that was not 
created by an svn checkout.  These directories are called working 
copies.


So, after having backed up /usr/src and /usr/ports (if you have local 
changes), remove them and check out from the repository:


  svn checkout svn://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src
  svn checkout svn://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports

Edit the URL for the first to match whatever version of FreeBSD is 
desired.


After that checkout, merge any local changes back to those directories. 
After that, update them when desired:


  svn up /usr/src
  svn up /usr/ports
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Re: How to use subversion to keep source, system and doc files up to date?

2012-09-27 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 27 Sep 2012, Ed Flecko wrote:


Thank you all!

I'm a little confused by Trond's reply,

"Make sure your /usr/src and /usr/ports directories does not contain
files and directories served by Subversion, they will hinder
extraction/updating when checking out a Subversion working copy on top
of the existing hierarchy.

Simply delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys to, say
/usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your local files
back into place."

1.) What is meant by deleting all non-local files? What files is he
referring to?


If you have made any local changes to files in /usr/src or /usr/ports, 
those changes will conflict with the versions svn will bring in.



2.) If I rename /usr/src/sys to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion
check out, and move your local files back into place, won't that be
replacing new files with the older files?


Yes, although svn will only care if those files differ from the files in 
the repository.  Most people won't have any local changes anyway.



3.) These steps are just meant for the initial check out, aren't
they??? Once I've checked out (i.e., "downloaded", right?) the current
files, I'll only need to: svn update /usr/ports..., etc. from that
point forward and not "delete all non-local files, rename /usr/src/sys
to, say /usr/src/sys0, do the Subversion check out, and move your
local files back into place"...Is that right?


Yes.  If a new version of a file conflicts with your local changes, svn 
will complain and try to help resolve those conflicts.

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Re: contributing to the ports collection

2012-09-27 Thread Fernando Apesteguía
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 9:59 PM, Stuart Matthews  wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> After several years of using FreeBSD, I have decided it is time to start
> contributing my time to the project. I have read through the relevant page
> on freebsd.org and intend to look into contributing in a couple of the ways
> listed there. However, my main interest is contributing a port to the ports
> collection.
>
> Specifically, I want to add WordShell (http://wordshell.net/) to the FreeBSD
> ports collection. I want to install it for myself, and I generally don't
> like using software outside of some sort of software manager wherein I can
> keep everything neatly up-to-date.
>
> How would I get started in adding something to the ports collection?

The porter's manual[1] is the place to start learning ;)

[1] http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/book.html

Cheers.

>
> Thanks,
> Stu
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svn checkout "head" or "stable"

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Flecko
My goal is to simply have a production server that's fully patched,
but I will be running custom kernels (which is why I'm not using
freebsd-update). I've seen a lot of subversion references to checking
out the "head" branch and the "stable" branch.

I understand the "head" branch is the most current, so that's the same
as the "current" branch, right?

If I understand correctly, "most" people will not follow the "current"
branch for production servers.

My goal is to have all of the files I need to rebuild my kernel and my
system after security updates have been released, therefore I should
do something like:



svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src

svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/stable/9 /usr/ports

svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/stable/9 /usr/doc

This will give me everything I need to recompile and have a fully
patched system, right?



I do not make changes to the src, ports, or doc directories. From that
point forward, as new security patches are released, I can simply:

svn up /usr/src

svn up /usr/ports

svn up /usr/doc

and once again rebuild my kernel and system.



Does this sound correct?


Ed
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Re: svn checkout "head" or "stable"

2012-09-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:03-0700, Ed Flecko wrote:

> My goal is to simply have a production server that's fully patched,
> but I will be running custom kernels (which is why I'm not using
> freebsd-update). I've seen a lot of subversion references to checking
> out the "head" branch and the "stable" branch.
> 
> I understand the "head" branch is the most current, so that's the same
> as the "current" branch, right?
> 
> If I understand correctly, "most" people will not follow the "current"
> branch for production servers.
> 
> My goal is to have all of the files I need to rebuild my kernel and my
> system after security updates have been released, therefore I should
> do something like:
> 
> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/base/stable/9 /usr/src
> 
> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/stable/9 /usr/ports

The ports tree resides in ports/head no matter what branch from the 
main source tree you check out, i.e.:

svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head /usr/ports

> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/stable/9 /usr/doc
> 
> This will give me everything I need to recompile and have a fully
> patched system, right?
> 
> I do not make changes to the src, ports, or doc directories. From that
> point forward, as new security patches are released, I can simply:
> 
> svn up /usr/src
> 
> svn up /usr/ports
> 
> svn up /usr/doc
> 
> and once again rebuild my kernel and system.
> 
> Does this sound correct?

Yes.

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Re: svn checkout "head" or "stable"

2012-09-27 Thread Ed Flecko
Cool...thank you Trond.

Is that true of the "docs" branch as well, in other words...

svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/head /usr/doc

works just fine?

Ed
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Re: svn checkout "head" or "stable"

2012-09-27 Thread Trond Endrestøl
On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:39-0700, Ed Flecko wrote:

> Cool...thank you Trond.

NP.

> Is that true of the "docs" branch as well, in other words...
> 
> svn co svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/head /usr/doc
> 
> works just fine?

Browsing through http://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/, indicates 
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/head/ being the current branch of the 
documentation, with release branches located at 
http://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/release/ and below.

E.g. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/doc/release/9.1.0/, or 
svn://svn.freebsd.org/doc/release/9.1.0, for the upcoming 9.1-RELEASE.

I've never CVSup'ed nor done any svn co/up ops on doc/head, but you 
seem to have got it right.

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PC-BSD 9.0 in VirtualBox

2012-09-27 Thread Mike Jeays
I have been running PC-BSD 9.0 with the KDE interface in a VirtualBox VM, and 
notice that it uses CPU resources when idle, driving up my CPU temperature 
about 15 degrees on an otherwise idle machine. (It is an Intel i5 quad four). 
Is this to be expected?
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